₦airaland Forum

Pastor AIO:
. . .whether out of desperation or what, I don't know.

^I believe this is an unfair remark. You quoted a Greek text and I pointed out that the Greek text you quoted was missing one word.

aletheia:
εγω δε λεγω υμιν οτι πας ο οργιζομενος τω αδελφω αυτου εικη ενοχος εσται τη κρισει ος δ αν ειπη τω αδελφω αυτου ρακα ενοχος εσται τω συνεδριω ος δ αν ειπη μωρε ενοχος εσται εις την γεενναν του πυρος  

What a difference a word makes. The Greek text you posted above is missing the word [size=16pt]εἰκῆ[/size].

You make allusion to the TR. The TR was composed from Byzantine text-type. And here is what we see:

Since the discovery of the Papyrus 45, Papyrus 46, and Papyrus 66, proof is available that occasionally the Byzantine text preserves a reading that dates from early witness.

Other examples of Byzantine readings were found in p66 in John 1:32; 3:24; 4:14.51; 5:8; 6:10.57; 7:3.39; 8:41.51.55; 9:23; 10:38; 12:36; 14:17. This supports the views of scholars such as Harry Sturz and Maurice Robinson that the roots of the Byzantine text may go back to a very early date; although Bruce Metzger points out that this cannot be taken to demonstrate that these readings were in the original text.

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https://www.everytongue.com/john/316arab.gif

Are you satisfied now that Arabic appears?

diluminati:
in the multitude of words you can find pure foolishness.
you got jewish friends right? let them tell you the meaning of that 'evil' in hebrew. when you get the real meaning then come here and defend it.

^Let me help you. The word you request is this one: רעה

Now make your point and stop hiding behind Hebrew words. It seems you still don't get it, no one here is interested in "defending" Isaiah 45:7; it needs no defending. Peace is not the "extreme opposite" of evil.

diluminati:
hey shut up there i dont need to sound 'discombobulated' to prove a point to you. ediot!

^At last! A coherent sentence. There's yet hope for you misguided child. Now run along and go play with your toys, you teenage pretend atheist (but wanna-be illuminati drones are not actually atheists).

Pastor AIO:
ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι πᾶς ὁ ὀργιζόμενος τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ ἕνοχος ἐσται τῇ κρίσει· ὃς δ’ ἂν εἶπῃ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ ῥακά, ἕνοχος ἐσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ ὃς δ’ ἂν εἶπῃ μωρέ, ἕνοχος ἐσται εἰς τὴν γέενναν τοῦ πυρός.

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εγω δε λεγω υμιν οτι πας ο οργιζομενος τω αδελφω αυτου εικη ενοχος εσται τη κρισει ος δ αν ειπη τω αδελφω αυτου ρακα ενοχος εσται τω συνεδριω ος δ αν ειπη μωρε ενοχος εσται εις την γεενναν του πυρος  

What a difference a word makes. The Greek text you posted above is missing the word [size=16pt]εἰκῆ[/size].

Pastor AIO:
Don't castigate people for trying to translate the bible accurately just because you don't like what you read.

^Err. . .I think those being castigated are those who translate the bible inaccurately; a charge that is easily proven by examining the source manuscripts.

^Huh? What discombobulated ranting is this? You are not making any sense: how do you "brainwash" someone using "logic". I doubt if even you can make sense of what you wrote above. . .you are like an idiot-savant stringing together words just to sound intelligent but ultimately spouting meaningless drivel. Just go away.

diluminati:
Now theres PEACE and then EVIL. you agree with me thats extreme opposites right? Its says EVIL EVIL, there was no citation or notation to explain what the EVIL meant but you can see PEACE was mentioned so the opposite was EVIL. what does EVIL mean to you now? aba! i didnt use any big words here right? i nor dey form professor, i just want you to use your common sense now. is it that hard to accept God is both good and evil? is it shaking your faith?

I know I "ain't" dull. But I can see that you are one dull and dumb female who takes herself entirely too serious. PEACE and EVIL are most definitely not extreme opposites. Where did you get that silly notion from? So because they are mentioned together in the same verse makes them "extreme opposites"? Duh. If you cannot present a logical and coherent defense of your position instead of this juvenile rant then get out of here.
BTW, this particular verse has been discussed elsewhere on this forum you Jonny-come-lately, so I suggest you look up those threads and stop boring us.

^My oh my. You seem to be losing it. I thought you atheists are supposed to be cool logic personified. I can see that David's reply. . .

davidylan:
Look at this scenario . . .

"I am your father, i have the power to make you happy with christmas gifts and make you cry with 12 strokes of the cane."

Can a father be good and bad at the same time?

. . .has gotten under your skin. Really nettled you and exposed your faux-intellectual pretensions.

@sweetnecta

@topic:

KJV. . .preferred. Used to read the NIV until I read the preface and realized the subtlety of it's translators in watering down the true meaning of certain key bible verses.

@Jesoul: The Message is a terrible (in more sense than one) translation.

From the Bola Ajibola-chaired Commission of Inquiry:

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In memorandum JCI/J/140/2009 presented by residents of Angwan Dalyop, a neighbourhood of Ali Kazaure Street, they stated on page 3 – 6 of the memorandum as follows:

“Prior to the crises, the actual mobilization and manoeuvres of the Hausa Youths that culminated in the mayhem started around 2:00 am with a call to sallah using a public address system (at an unusual time). After the call the Imam made a clear declaration of war when he said ---- ‘Jama’a, wannan Jihadi ne, ku kashe maza, ku kashe mata, ku kashe tsofofi da yara, ku kone gidajen arne’ meaning people, this is a Jihad, kill men, kill women, kill the elderly and children. Go ahead and burn the houses of the infidels …
Shortly after the declaration there was a sudden violent rush of Hausa youths marching to and from the streets chanting “Allahu Akbar. This mass movement continued till day break when the actual destruction of houses, lives and other properties started. The crisis in Angwan Dalyop started about 6:00 am on that Friday 28th November, 2008. There was sudden pandemonion as residents were woken by the sudden mass movement of Hausa youths brandishing dangerous weapons such as cutlasses, swords, machetes, clubs, bows and arrows and later guns. Some of these youths were identified to be residents of Ali Kazaure area. We were also able to learn from one Ahmadu Ali Kazaure that most of the armed militants were from Gangare in Jos”.

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C.S.P Sale Adudu (Rtd.) was Commission witness 202. According to the witness who gave evidence in memorandum JCI/J/133/2009, he was an eye witness to what transpired at the collation centre in Kabong. C.S.P Sale Adudu (Rtd.) stated in his evidence as follows:

“So when the results were coming in, the Hausa/Fulani were leading with almost thirty something thousand, very close to be in favour of the result(sic). But later, the other results were coming from the indigenes. At about 11:00 p.m the results of the indigenes were almost fifty something thousand. Then some of them start shouting “the Arnas have won the election…… Hon. Nazifi raised an alarm using a telephone call and said “ku fito!, ku fito! Arna sun ci zabe! Meaning “come out! The infidels have won the election!. He said so more than ten times, ku fito, ku fito, ku fito! Ku fito an gama damu” meaning “come out, come out, come out, come out, we are finished, they have won”. It was after these phone calls that we witnessed people coming out, the next I could see was smoke every where…. They set COCIN Church, Sarkin Mangu on fire”

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In memorandum JCI/J/38/2009 presented before the Commission stated on page 8 thus:

“Amazingly, many individuals, who were practicing Muslims, but not of Hausa/Fulani origin were also targeted for attack. For example, there are credible oral accounts which speak of some Yoruba – speaking residents of Nasarawa Gwong area of Jos (who are Muslims) being brutally attacked and molested. A few of them were even reported to have been killed”.

The Yoruba Community who presented memorandum JCI/J/202/2009 stated on page 1 of the memorandum as follows:

“Yorubas did not present any candidate for any key position in the election. Therefore it came as a surprise when on 28th November, 2008, thousands of Hausa Youths under the disguise of their dissatisfaction with the yet to be released results of the Local Government Elections joined by their kith and kin in Nasarawa Gwong, Rikkos and Dutse Uku unleashed terror on Yoruba residents in these areas”.

The Evidence of History

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in 1873 the Hausa/Fulani from Bauchi attempted to conquer the natives of Jos but were heavily defeated and chased out of Jos by the combined army of Afizere, Anaguta, Berom and other tribes. The Hausa/Fulani army retreated and never came back to attack natives of Jos. They only came back to Jos after the advent of the British. The evidence for this is from a letter dated 4th January, 1915 from Mr. Lonsdale, District Officer, Bauchi Division to the Resident Naraguta Division. The letter was a response to a request by the Resident for an account from the District Officer of this battle of 1873. In the letter, Mr. Lonsdale narrated to the Resident of Naraguta an account of the battle as told him by Abdu Wazirin Wunti of Bauchi who was himself present during the battle as follows:
“We proceeded to Jos---- close to the present site of Niger Company Canteen, we were attacked by a large number of Naragutawa, Bukurawa, Jarawa, Bujiawa and men of Amo. They beat us and we all separated in flight reaching Tilde at night. The pagans turned from Rafin Jaki. The (sic) Bauchi was killed near Naraguta on the Buji road as he was fleeing; forty one (41) of us were killed and twelve of our horses. We captured eighteen of their cattle. After that we did not fight them again”.

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Sir Ahmadu Bello in his book “My Life” stated on page 11 of that book that:
“the countries which did not come under the Fulani rule were the areas known as Borno Province, the Plateau Province (less Wase), the Jukun, the Tiv and Idoma peoples of South of the Benue Province and small part of Kabba and Ilorin Province”.

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Charles C. Jacobs in his book “Studies in Berom History and Culture”, stated on page 227 of the book as follows:
----“the bulk of the labour force on the minefields came from outside the Plateau Chiefly from other parts of Northern Nigeria. The Hausas and the Kanuris came to constitute the cadre of experienced miners who worked all the year round and supplied the bulk of the headmen”.

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Bill Freund in his book “Capital Market and Labour in the Nigerian Mines gave an excellent account of the political economy of tin mining and labour on the Plateau tin mines. He stated that in the 1940s due to the Second World War and the increase demand for tin to prosecute the war effort, forced labour (Diban Gwamna) was imposed as a state policy and many Hausas from the North were drawn into the minefields

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It was the Late Gbong Gwom Jos, Da Rwang Pam, that gave out the land upon which Jos Central Mosque was built, to the Hausa Community for that purpose. On the day the piece of land was handed over to the Hausa/Fulani Community by late Da Rwang Pam, the then Gbong Gwom Jos, the Sardauna of Sokoto and Premier of Northern Nigeria, late Sir Ahmadu Bello who was himself present and was accompanied by Alhaji Ali Kazaure, Alhaji Ali Iliya, Alhaji Sale Hassan, Alhaji Inuwa Ali and other dignitaries made the following remarks:
“Today is my day of great joy and happiness. The Gbong Gwom Jos through extraordinary generosity has given Muslims land to build a Mosque for their Community who are his loyal subjects. Today I want us to say that the Beroms and Hausas must work in harmony. The Hausa must respect the authority of the Berom. The day you cheat on the Berom, you will suffer untold hardship because if you cheat on the Berom, you will always end up being cursed. Remember you will never see happiness until you respect the host community”.

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It would do well for the Hausa-Fulani in Jos to heed the words of Ahmadu Bello to them.

@ecenter: this topic has been thrashed several times.

ecenter:
So the creation of the world in Gen 1:3 is called the second creation.

^Show me in the Bible where God called it "the second creation". This is what the Lord God says: (Exo 20:11) [u]For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day[/u]wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


The Lord God also says this: (1Ti 1:4) Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

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OLAADEGBU:
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul, the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." (1 Corinthians 15:45).

Those who believe that there was sin, suffering, pain and death before God created Adam are enemies of the gospel of Christ and they may not know it.

^Thank you my brother. This was exactly the verse that came to mind when considering the OP.

*bump*

@alj_harem:

Please refer to my earlier post. I edited it to add quotes from Justice Niki Tobi on the status of Hausa-Fulani in Jos.

^Hausa are not indigenous to Abuja too. Why try to steal the Gbagyis' heritage?

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Edited to add:

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In my post above, the 1994 Fiberesima Commission which identified the true indigenes of Jos as Afizere, Anaguta and Berom is alluded to. Now let me also include quotes from the Justice Niki Tobi report as well:

It is the feeling of the Commission that as long as the Elders do not tell the Youth the true story of ownership, half truths as contained in Exhibit 339 will continue to
threaten peace in this great city and cause violence and crisis. The Elders owe posterity a duty to tell the youth that the Hausas were not the founders of Jos and therefore not the owners of the city. They should also tell the youth where they came from so that the youth may know their ancestral homes or routes. That will solve so much of the present predicament of the youth who are fed with false claims.

3.54 The claim of ownership of something is a very serious matter which requires solid, precise, and unequivocal convincing evidence. It is not like the Englishman finding
tea, coffee and toast on his breakfast table and he sips the tea or coffee with ease and effortlessly in comfort. It is much more than that. The claimant must adduce adequate or sufficient evidence to back up his claim. A rigmarole and sentimental evidence of a romantic nature will not suffice. No human being can romance or gamble with evidence of ownership of a place and succeed. Ownership is a hard matter of law and not one of sentiment. One either owns a thing or property or he does not. There is no half way to it. Ownership of a town is the most serious claim and the burden is so much on the claimant. We feel that the evidence of Hausa and Fulani ownership of Jos has not passed through Nigeria’s evidential rules of proof. In other words, the burden of proof has not been discharged by the evidence before us.

3.55 In this matter history, and very authentic history, has given us a consistent flowing story of how the three tribes of Afizere, Anaguta and Birom own Jos. We accept the evidence of the three tribes and other tribes that supported their evidence. We reject the evidence that the Hausas and the Fulanis or any other tribe for that matter founded Jos and therefore own Jos.

3.56 The story of ownership of Jos as told by the protagonists of Hausa-Fulani ownership of the former tin city, is like the literature story of Alice in the Wonderland.
Happily, this Commission will not wonder. It will arrive at the proper and correct destination with the assistance of a good “compass”. Let no human being attempt to re-write or muffle history because history will cry to the high heaven for justice and fairplay in anger and animosity. And that will be bad both for the beneficiaries of history and the persons attempting to re-write it. Let such a thing not happen in Plateau State. We have no difficulty in coming to the conclusion that the story that the Hausas and Fulanis founded Jos and therefore the owners, is most oppressive. Unclad oppression is bad; oriental oppression more so. God hates both.

@Topic: Hausa are not indigenous to Jos. Neither have they been there since the 1400s. This revisionist history in a bid to steal the heritage of the 3 indigenous tribes of Jos viz: Berom/Anaguta/Afizere

In 2004, during the state of emergency, General Alli undertook a number of peace initiatives, the most important of which was the Plateau Peace Conference, which met in Jos from 18 August to 21 September. All indigenous ―ethnic nationalities in the State‖, ―pegged at fifty-four‖, were invited to send two representatives each; forty-eight indigenous groups actually did so. ―Other major Nigerian ethnic nationalities resident in the State‖, namely the Fulanis, Hausas, Igbos, people from the ―South-South‖ (Urhobos, Ijaws, etc.), and Yorubas, were allowed one representative each, although in the end the Fulanis and Hausas each had two. Some ―interest groups‖ were also represented: women (one from each local government), various civil society groups, and the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) and Jama‘atu Nasril Islam (JNI), representing Christian and Muslim interests. For more than a month this large group discussed Plateau State‘s problems in exhaustive detail. Its 167-page report, this time published in the Plateau State Gazette, summarises the discussions and the resolutions adopted, point by point. There is much of interest in the report, but for present purposes it is sufficient to quote the following parts of §7.2.1, at pp. 31-33, on ―Indigeneship issues: perceived discrimination and denial of rights – politically and socially‖ (with emphasis as in the original):

i. The Conference discussed the problem of Jos and re-affirmed the conclusion of [the 1994 Fiberesima Commission] which identified the true indigenes of Jos as Afizere, Anaguta and Berom.

ii. Delegates also advised that all peoples should learn to be proud of where they come from and to associate themselves with their places of origin.

iii. The Conference felt that with proper understanding of one another, integration and assimilation will ultimately come without any intimidation and antagonism.

iv. … [T]he 1999 Constitution…recognises that every citizen has the right to contest for any elective position…but appointive positions anchored on representation should be done within the ambits of [the federal character principle based on indigeneship].

v. [discussion of a problem in Kanam LGA]

vi. Local Governments should only issue Indigene Certificates to indigenes of the respective Local Governments in Plateau State, as defined by the Conference.

vii. Other Nigerians who may be non-indigenes in a place of residence should be issued with Residence Certificates backed by an enabling law.

viii. The Federal Government should include [a] definition of an indigene in the Constitution…. Such a definition should be mindful of minority rights…as well as consistent with the principles [of federal character].

ix. Non-indigenes should desist from making frivolous demands on issues that are not their heritage, but the exclusive preserve of the indigenes, notably traditional rulership and traditional rites of indigenous communities.

x. To allow for effective integration, assimilation and development, indigenes are not to discriminate against other Nigerian citizens, but should embrace them.

The Hausa community of Jos made an appeal to the Conference, to consider the need to include the Hausa as indigenes, based on the fact that they have been in Jos for a long time, have made crucial contributions to the development of all facets of the socio-economic and political life of the State, and know no other home. In response to this request, Conference made reference to [other long-term settler communities elsewhere in Nigeria still treated as non-indigenes]. Moreover, there are several other ethnic groups such as Urhobos, Yorubas, Ibos etc. who have settled in Jos at the same time or even earlier than the Hausas and have also contributed to the development of Jos. Therefore the Hausas should not be treated different from these other groups.

vedaxcool:
The Hausa Fulani taught them violence?

^Yes.

^Nope. Disinformation at its best. As our discussions during the last elections revealed; you know next to nothing about the part of the country called the Middle-Belt, the people there and their psyche. It's your Hausa-Fulani brothers that began the SinParty of slitting throats only for the other tribes to start practising what they learnt from them. Unlike you who's just mouthing off here. . .I am an eye-witness of the events having lived through the ten years of the violence in Jos. On two occasions I had to flee my house because of your marauding Hausa-Fulani brothers. Ask the parents of University of Jos students whose children were killed in Angwar Rogo and Gangare for no other reason than that they were not Hausa-Fulani Muslim. Ask the relations of Yoruba and Igbirra Muslims who were killed in places like Nasarawa in Jos. Ask the Igbo traders who were killed in Dilimi.

If the Hausa-Fulani elite do not cease from trying to foist their ethnic and supremacist agenda on the rest of the people of Nigeria while disguising it as religious fervor then they should know that the solution of April 22, 1990 and the aftermath of February 13, 1976 are still remembered by the people of the Middle-Belt. . .and our time will come.

^What "minority was rigged upon a majority"? Mouthing off on what you know nothing about. Shall I you tell about the events of September 7th 2001? Or the horror as I watched from my window in the Jos University Teaching Hospital quarters as Muslim youths went into the houses in Gangare and dragged out Non-muslims, stabbing and macheting them.

The thing is that the Hausa and Fulani taught the naturally hospitable indigenous tribes of Jos, the brutal arts of violence and ethnic cleansing. They are complaining now because these indigenes have borrowed a leaf out of the Zango-Kataf playbook and taken the violence up a notch.

frosbel:
Not sure what will happen next, but we should pray for all humble deceived Muslims worldwide for their salvation before it is too late.

^True. May our Father in Heaven grant these ones grace to know His Son.

. . .apparently this thread has touched a raw nerve among some "Muslims".

At topic: I would be loath to consider Western Europe as "Christian" in 732 AD. Just as it is said of the "Holy Roman Empire". It was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire.

@LagosShia: You can list all the wars you wish. . .it proves nothing except that men will always fight wars. But answer this question: Was it Christians that killed your precious Ali? I'm sure the answer will help you to realize your delusion and perhaps help you remember all the wars fought by you so called Muslims among yourselves.

^Of course both sides are guilty of violence. . .but we must tell the truth about who started the killings in Jos 10 years ago this year.
Ask yourself this: why has the FG failed or refused to implement the various commissions of inquiry recommendations with regards to Jos?

nwabobo:
The five people believed to be Igbo traders were said to have been shot dead at Madala Market on Thursday Night between 7 – 8pm.

Our correspondent reliably gathered that the yet to be identified gunmen were said to have stormed the Madala market and made straight to a shop believed to be that of some Igbo traders and ordered them to recite the Holy Quran of which they could not.

The gunmen who were not satisfied with the development opened fire on the five people at close range leaving them dead immediately.



http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/5-killed-for-failing-to-recite-quaran/

^There is a high probability that this story is incorrect.
1) These five people if Igbo could not have been the only Igbo in that market. Why then were they singled out to recite the Quran?
2) Who are the witnesses that stood close enough to the deceased to know that the gun men ordered them to recite the Quran and yet were also not shot by the assassins?

Here is another view of the incident:

Gunmen numbering about four Thursday, stormed Madalla Market along Abuja Kaduna expressway dispossessing traders of the day’s proceeds, while shooting sporadically into the air. The gunmen proceeded to town where they shot and killed four persons. Those killed during the operation, according to witnesses, were a plumber simply referred to as Mr. Obi and one Sunday Williams. The identity of the two others could not be ascertained as at press time.

The incident according to the chairman, Palm Oil Dealer Association, Mr. Duke Williams was the third within the year. He said the incident happened when most traders had either left the market or boarded vehicles home. Williams said the gunmen stormed the market late in the evening when traders were closing for the day. “When the robbers arrived the market, they headed straight for Hajiya Fatima’s restaurant and asked after her. But one of the attendants told them that Hajiya had already closed. They left with a message for the restaurant owner that they would be back the next day.  They then started shooting sporadically into the air and there was pandemonium. They robbed many traders at the palm oil section who were not fortunate to have left before their arrival.”

While those who were robbed recount their ordeals in the hands of the rampaging gunmen, those who lost loved ones in the neighborhood of Anguwan Madalla- Tumbu and the area around Madalla Junction 1 are in mourning mood. Residents around the affected neighborhood are lamenting the presence of abandoned corpses whose identity cannot be ascertained. “Some of those killed during the operation are not known to us. What do we now do with the corpses,” a resident queried.

Mrs. Nkechi, wife of Mr. Obi, who lost his life during the incident, said her late husband came out to ease himself around 7. 30 pm that fateful evening when he ran into the robbers and was killed. She said she heard him pleading with the gunmen that they should spare his life and that they did not demand for anything only for him to be shot. She said when her and the neighbor came out after the robbers had left they see her husband dead. She said Mr. Obi, 30 who also hailed from Umozombo, in Aro-Chukwu local government area of Abia State, was doing well in his plumbing job. “Now he has left me with our two-months-old child to cater for all by myself. Where do I go from here because I don’t have anybody in this city except him?”

Joel .T. Emmanuel, friend to late Mr. Sunday Emmanuel who also lost his life during the incident told Weekly Trust that they were on their way home to Unguwan Baba Anya when they ran into the robbers. “Emmanuel was suddenly killed by two shots fired by the robbers, but I miraculously survived.” The remains of the two unidentified victims, Weekly Trust learnt, were said to have been deposited at the Suleja General Hospital by men of the Madalla Police Command.

The Ward Head of Anguwan Madalla Junctuion 1 area, Mallam Musa Abdullahi told Weekly Trust that after the violent spree, some of his subjects came to his house and told him that there are two corpses close to their house. “I, along with other men, reported same to the police who later evacuated them.”

When our reporter visited the Madalla Police Division, the Divisional Police Officer (DPO) in charge of the division was not on seat. A junior officer said only the DPO was qualified to speak on the matter. However, Chairman of Suleja Local Government Area, Muhammad Umar, confirmed that four people died. He added that the council is collaborating with the police with a view to reducing crime in the area.

http://weekly.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7226:gunmen-kill-4-in-madallas-orgy-of-violence&catid=41:news&Itemid=30

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=762425.msg9169172#msg9169172 date=1316328746]Why should we believe the word of the SSS over Jang?[/quote]^Same SSS that was releasing arrested terrorists to Northern leaders for "rehabilitation" only for them to now be indicted in the recent spate of bombings. I 'd rather believe Jang even though I personally do not like his style of governance.

Also the OP ignored this:

knightride:
SSS did note that there was local premeditated organisation of Hausa-Fulani youth to either instigate or participate in violent acts connected to the Jos election. . .

In addition, SSS reported that there was some premeditated organisation of Hausa-Fulani youth groups to instigate or participate in violence connected with the Jos election.

^Those of us living in Jos already knew this. Just as we know that they are still planning further attacks in the near future.

Is El-Rufai telling Nigerians what they don't already know?

. . .a message can lose its power if the messenger is not credible. Isn't this the same El-Rufai that was paying a corper jumbo salaries denominated in dollars?

When exactly did he experience his epiphany? I am skeptical about his motives.

El-Rufai has always been ambitious and I believe this is his strategy to build up a support base towards his coming presidential attempt. Keep saying what people want to hear and maybe they may forget that you are part of the rot in the first place.
Like Julius Caesar said:
"Yon Cassius hath a lean and hungry look.
He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous." 

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Demdem:
“Up until December 2006, there were 31 cabinet-level ministries including the FCT Administration and about 42 ministers. . .

“This reduced the number of cabinet level MDAs to 21, but without a significant reduction in the number of ministers. The Yar’Adua and Jonathan administrations reversed these reforms, and now, we have some 30 ministries housing between 42 and 48 ministers.

^How can this be tagged as "reforms" without a commensurate reduction in the number of ministers; and we know that the salaries and allowances of the political appointees and their aides constitutes a significant portion of recurrent expenditure. El-Rufai is being clever by half. In real terms there is no difference between the administration of which he was a part and the present one. . .that one failed; the present one seems to be planning to fail.

Sweetnecta:
^^^^^^^^^ Aletheia the liar, calling a mere darkening of the forehead calluses.

^If it is a mere darkening of the skin, how come that is what your god says he will use to recognize a good Muslim in order to pull him out of hell fire? Your own ahadith gives the lie to your statement.

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira
He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations.

All your zeal doesn't conceal the fact that you are a fake Muslim who doesn't know his quran or hadiths. Your stalking of threads on this forum is an attempt to compensate for secret doubt. Go and educate yourself on what a callus is.

@homer:

Devout Muslims do actually have calluses on their foreheads from repeatedly knocking it on the ground during prayer. For example look at Sule Lamido's forehead in the picture below:
https://www.jigawastate.gov.ng/userfiles/image/Past%20Govs/SULE%20LAMIDO_%20MAY%202007-DATE.jpg

^You are trying too hard. . .and yet it's not working.

Ith qalati almala-ikatu ya maryamu inna Allaha yubashshiruki bikalimatin minhu ismuhu almaseehu AAeesa ibnu maryama wajeehan fee alddunya waal-akhirati wamina almuqarrabeena

So angels (plural) is the same as Holy Spirit (singular) in your mind. . .also no mention seen in this verse of Holy Spirit or Jibreel. Like I said: you are trying too hard. . .you must surely be feeling the pressure.

cicero:
Nigeria didn't jump the gun, rather AU was guided by immoral and dictatorial individuals who felt the need to stick by their kind and benefactor.

^It's no surprise the AU took the position it did when you consider the list below, they were only protecting their interest:

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Mbasago/Equatorial Guinea/32yrs/since 1979
Jose Santos/Angola/32yrs/since 1979
Robert Mugabe/Zimbabwe/31yrs/since 1980
Paul Biya/Cameroon/29yrs/since 1982
Yoweri Museveni/Uganda/25yrs/since 1986
Blaise Campore/Burkina Fasso/24yrs since 1987
Mswati III/Swaziland/24yrs/since April 1986
Omar Bashir/Sudan/21yrs/since 1989
Idrissu Deby/Chad/21yrs/since 1990
Isaias Afewerki/Eritrea/18yrs/since 1993
Yahya Jammeh/Gambia/17yrs/since 1994
Meles Zenawi/Ethiopia/16yrs/since 1995
Pakalitha Mosisili (Lesotho)/13yrs/since 1998;
Ismail Omar Guelleh/Djibouti/12yrs/since 1999
Mohammed VI/Morocco/12yrs/since 1999
Abdoulaye Wade (Senegal)/11yrs/since 2000
Paul Kagame (Rwanda)/11yrs/since 2000

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African Union (of dictators)