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no need to comment when the mods just delete everything.

serious people have left the forum.

Gombs, maybe you should take this to your private diary if you don't want discussions.

I'm not proud.

Hahahahahaha!

But where are the arab pilots?

Idrismusty97: I see three human knees.

Modified: I see it clearly now, The knee on the left is not actually a knee but a flower vase. She is just leaning on it.

Wow! Dancing azoto. I now believe i have a brain . You all should give me likes o!

BTW Seun please be showing a person "modified history". This guy is a "cheater" .

Thanks I first thought she forgot to pull out something , then thought she was sitting on a rugby ball.

idoncome: @alfaseltzer i tink u need to gv urself some break n den come back to read thru d thread once more, only den u will neva like to showcase ur igno.....

yeah. ignorance is bliss. keep wallowing in it.

60% my arrse

makazona: Are you talking about Rivers n Delta states as other Igbo states?
An average Riverian wont agree with you ooo.

There is no such thing as an average riverian.

makazona: Abi? I thought Igbo is comprised of 5 states?

think again

Now, I'm very sure Nigeria will not see 2016.

DECOtech: please oh, what's the difference between putting a dog on a leash and putting a leash on a dog?

You put a dog that deserves it on a leash. You put a leash on a dog because you have nothing better to do.

OneNaira6: Nigg@ don't quote your stupidity as an Igbo behavior. You just being stup1d simple as that. An Igbo is smart enough to know when to leave to save their life. In igboland, noone commits suicide, that is the culture.

Arm their self to teeth to fight a bomb? Do you think it's your village dog that are you fighting? Do you even know what a bomb is? Oya name what you can arm yourself with to fight someone carrying a bomb? See this Nigg@

Like I said stay up there and get killed for a paper that wouldn't come with you to your after life and I highly doubt you're a millionaire or something, the only justifiable reason to stay up there for money. Those that are smart enough, knows how to make it no matter what environment they are. Only stupid, lazy ones stay in an area that's dangerous and easy to make it at. smh

Anyway, when you are gone and they are going to catch you, they catching everyone including their own muslim people, na suicide you committed as far as Igbo people are concerned. Goodluck

So according to your cowardly world view, whenever a group of people get some bombs, we should all run away?
WTF do you think a bomb is? If bombs were so effective, why are they not using it daily? Maybe you are talking of suicide bombers. Well, there not that many and you can only blow yourself up once.

And you also reason individually and selfishly. As an individual, you do what you can to protect yourself and move when danger is approaching. As a group, Igbos have authority and mandate to stay in the North. And we are are staying there no matter what. A few cowards here and there might run back to their mamas but we as a people will not run.

And we don't consider people murdered by boko as suicide victims. We bring them home and give them full burial and funeral rights. Something we don't do for suicide victims.

Ikenna351: If I may ask you, what do you know about car production? Can you name one Automobile company that produces everything in their cars? Just name one company. That's all I am asking. Is it Benz or BMW? More than half of car companies all over the world don't produce transmissions they put in their cars, including engines. Most Peugeot Diesel engines were used and are still used by Ford and other car companies. Those that make those cars Peugeot cars? Even the then Peugeot 505 Turbos, those engines in them were not produced by Peugeot. But they got Peugeot badges on them. To make it easier for you, who produces brake pads you find in cars? The car brand? What about sensors, electronics and other components in cars? What about tyres? What about headlights. In fact, even designing of cars before they are produced are outsourced. How come your car left showroom with Denso spark plugs, Bosch parts, Sagem ignition coils, Michelin tyres, ZF auto transmissions, etc? So you think everything in Toyota cars were made by Toyota? You think all the transmissions in Toyota cars were made by Toyota? What exactly is your definition of production? So if the foreign Automobile companies could do the same, why do you find it hard to see it the same with IVM?

All Lions produced by PAN is made in Nigeria, even though they are French cars. All Nokia produced in China are made in China, even though they are Finnish technology and company.

And finally, the great Aristotle said and I quote " Imitation is the mother of invention". Nothing seems to be new on Earth anymore. Rather, unique.

Ikenna

So you agree that IVM vehicles are Chinese cars. Good.

And aristotle never said such nonsense.

OneNaira6: I rather stay alive than stupidly lose my money for the DUMBEST THING on the planet: Money.

I'll fight for love, family, anything that actually matters but to stupidly stay in a dangerous environment simply because of a piece of paper that wouldn't follow you to your grave/resting place when you die has got to be the dumbest thing in the planet by any human being alive. Nigg@ you are not being courage, you are just being a greedy ediot.

Like I said before, stay up there and get yourself killed. Use gun, knife, whatever to fight a bomb, lets see if you'll win. That money you keep chasing sure as hell wouldn't go with you to heaven. Your siblings that are smart enough to stay in a safe environment, would thank you for enriching them.

You can always know the fake Igbo man by the war they talk.
Please, what is a man without money? Tufiakwa!
The only thing I blame Igbos in the north for is not arming themselves to the teeth and sending those mo worshipers to their waiting virgins.
You want them to run away in their own country into village poverty? If that's your solution, then shame. People leave their own country to go and fight elsewhere and you are advising my people to run like thieves. Thankfully they are not heeding your cowardly call.

ketoprofen: ROSSIKE, I couldn't have pur it better.
I don't know why it peppers some people that one of their own is doing sth.

I am very happy for the success of INNOSON, but Nigeria is not a car producing country. Twist the words as you want, Innoson is an assembler for the chinese car manufacturer, GAC.

Until INNOSON conceives, designs and produces parts, it is an assembler. A successful one, no doubt. But still an assembler of someone else's parts.

ROSSIKE: ''His plant, he says, utilizes 60 per cent of local content which encompasses bodies, tyres seats, batteries, rubber, plastic and other polymer products, light fittings, among other components.

His manufacturing businesses have employed well over 7,000 workers out of which only 30 are expatriates. While some of the staff were poached from ANAMCO, others were trained abroad as such technical capacity is no worry for the Industrialist as he has also forged a strong working relationship with the Chinese government.

Chief Chukwuma is building an automotive manufacture training school very close to his vehicle rolling plant. To him, this will spread the knowhow and ‘’ I can employ from there, others can employ from there. I am not a monopolist you know. I want this sector to grow so we can take the world.’’''

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/06/innoson-promoting-local-industry-productivity/





If you DO import the parts for a belt and use those parts to build a belt, you have manufactured a belt. The labour, know-how, and capital required to create a belt out of disparate pieces constitutes value.



You are dumb beyond repair. Here is a list of car plants across the world. As stated earlier they are known officially as 'car assembly plants' all over the world. I know you will ignore this again and continue spewing your illiterate, beer parlour garbage. Olodo rabata.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Motor_vehicle_assembly_plants



What garbage. Technically, there is no such thing as ''producing a car''. You DESIGN a car. You CONCEPTUALISE a car. You MANUFACTURE a car etc. What we are discussing here is MANUFACTURING. Very few if any car manufacturing plants have anything to do with ''market study, parts manufacturing, design'' etc. Those are totally separated aspects of the process leading up to the release of a vehicle.



My God you're dense. So Nigeria doesn't produce electricity. It is the companies that produce it, correct? I think you need to see a psychiatrist. Next thing you will say is Nigeria doesn't have roads, since they were built by Julius Berger.

You just confirmed my point.

what a load of tosh

ROSSIKE: You weren't calm when you were dismissing another man's work as ''mediocrity''.



You're an ignorant dunderhead. There is no such thing as ''assembling a car produced by others''. If a car has been ''produced'' then it HAS been ''assembled''. ''Assembling'' a car IS ''producing'' a car. In the vehicle industry car plants are actually called ''car assembly plants'', meaning all car manufacturing equates to car assembly. The only other type of vehicle factory apart from an assembly plant is a car component manufacturer. That's it. Nothing else. Car component manufacturers do not manufacture vehicles. They just produce specific parts. The building of the car is done in an assembly plant.



More convoluted horse manure. Firstly YOU DO NOT KNOW what parts of INNOSON's 60% locally sourced components are locally manufactured or imported. We have car component manufacturers of various sizes and disciplines in Nigeria, with more being established daily as the Automative policy gets into full swing. YOU need to find some way to contribute instead of rubbishing the efforts of others while doing absolutely nothing yourself.


Very daft question. BMW cars built in Malaysia ARE Malaysian cars. That is how they are quantified or classified when measuring Malaysia's annual vehicle production output!!!

If Nigeria produces 10,000 megawatts of electricity per annum, you don't say, ''oh no, it is not Nigeria generating the electricity, it is GE or Shell'' or any number of companies who may have built the power plants! It is all counted as Nigerian power output. Same applies to telecommunications, car production etc.

I don't know where to start with you. You call my explanation convoluted horse manure but refused to give us the simple answer of what part of Innoson's car are produced in Nigeria.

Do you know what it takes to brand a product made in "somewhere"? The somewhere must add value to the product. That's it. I can import a belt leather from south africa and the buckle from ghana, attach them together and legally call it made in nigeria. That's mediocrity!

To respond to a few nonsense you spewed here, assembling a car is NOT producing a car.

To produce a car, you need to go through many processes, of which assembly is the final process. The processes include, conception, market study, design, parts manufacturing, testing and assembly. Innoson and that ghana man only do the last part: assembly. Total mediocrity!

Your last paragraph just shows the type of brainwashing we have gone through in this country. Why say Nigeria produced when it is shell that produced and takes the profit? It is just one of those useless statement they tell us to keep us happy in our mediocrity, like Giant of Africa nonsense. We just happily accept it.

I ask you once again, what 60% of IVM vehicles are manufactured locally?

ROSSIKE: What a load of rubbish. If Peugeout manufactured cars in Nigeria, then the vehicles were made in Nigeria, meaning they were ''Nigerian cars'', whatever the hell that means.

If INNOSON manufactures cars in Nigeria (which they do), then the vehicles are made in Nigeria, meaning they are ''Nigerian cars''. All over the world there are car plants belonging to Peugeot, Nissan, BMW etc. In those countries the vehicles manufactured are considered those respective countries' cars, whether or not the manufacturer is a foreign company.


Utterly irrelevant. Does INNOSON manufacture vehicles or not? They do. Case closed. And they even use 60% local content minimum. Tell us what YOU have done that is remotely comparable before talking ignorant rubbish about 'mediocrity''

Calm down. Innoson does not produce cars. They assemble cars produced by others. What 60% local content are in Innoson cars? Do you know how the 60% is calculated?

No?

Let me educate you!
A small company, subsidiary or not of Innoson assembles an imported bulky but low value car component like the doors. Those doors become locally manufactured product. Attach the doors to an imported car and the car immediately becomes 20% local made. This percentage is increased dramatically if the cost of labour that goes into manufacturing is incorporated, which seems like what innoson is doing as they say 60% local content and not 60% locally manufactured parts.

Innoson is an assembly plant for GAC.

A sister company of Innoson is in malaysia and called Inokrom. They also assemble BMW locally. Is BMW now a malaysian car?