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thwarrior72: You can do well by stop quoting that guy, he's a mischievous, self lying & ignorant punk.....Ignore him like every igbo on this thread has ignored okijajuju, there are birds of of thesame plumage

Some people just like wallowing in ignorance.

warrior01: Yes, he is a spare parts seller that has achieved what you and your lineage can't achieve in the next ten generations. Thank God, he is wise to have built a garage' to assemble 'imported cars' , you, mr bad belle, what have you achieved with your worthless life? Do you even know the foreign exchange this guy is already saving Nigeria? Do you how many people he single handedly kept off the streets? Do you even know how many small scale industries IVM has kept alive? Take out time and go to Nnewi, I promise your wretched life will never be the same again.

Why does he then need to lie and call himself a car maker? Why not be proud of what he has achieved and build from there? Why does he need to lie?
Does he think he is still a market fake spare parts seller? Tell him to apologise to Igbos and stop lying.

Polchiz: Hausas and their slaves (Yorubas) are trying very hard to create the impression that Igbos are not better than them.

The claims, counter claims, and pull-igbos down-crusade going on here are simply based on anti-igbo mentality.

In the next Ohaneze Ndi Igbo meeting, this issue will be raised and henceforth, I expect all well-meaning Igbo sons and daughters to:

1. STOP patronizing GT Bank.

2. STOP using GLO Network.

3. All GT Banks in South-East should be made unproductive strategically.

4. Among others.

The Hausas in the North have no problems EXCEPT violence. We can live with that instead.

This has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

warrior01: Mr man, shut up if you don't have any reasonable contribution to make. Apart from the engine and some other parts, the rest are made in newish and Enugu. Do you know how many companies are benefiting from IVM? My dear, travel and see. Sitting in your grand father's " face me and face you' you think everyone a failure like you? Go to Nnewi and see what these young men and women are doing with their God given talents. I don't even need to start lecturing your lazy bum about the contribution of this young man to the development of this nation from bringing down the prices of new motorcycles to the outright stoppage of importation of used ones. I hope and pray he achieved that with motor vehicles too. Like I said earlier, keep on hating as you know, you are already useless to your generation. Empty critic that can't even produce toothpick.

So you are proud of a spare parts seller that built a garage to assemble imported car parts? As you set your bars too low, it's good ok, but as a true Igboman, I am setting my bars very high.

INNOSON should aim to be competing with Toyota instead of roadside mechanics.

Evergreen123: u are the laughing stock not igbos.
iPhone was designed in USA and made in china.
I guess china is a laughing stock

Who owns the patent?

Is iPhone a chinese phone?

Evergreen123: The design was probably Chinese as they provided the initial technical know how. That's y they use their patent.
But most of the resources are made in Nigeria, and more Nigerians have joined in the production.
Innoson is made in Nigeria, I have not seen any minister of technology dispute that.
Even aganga posted it on his instagram and said its made in Nigeria.
Who are all these poor nonentities thinking they can infuse their bad blood on others?

Typical Nigerian. Swallows everything somebody in authority tells her. Can't make her own research.

Rawani: [size=13pt]This is the most ignorant, dishonest and deceitful statement i've read in years. w w[/size]

Exactly my point. The guy is a liar!

Evergreen123: And who is begging these poor Yorubas to buy innosons.?
Most of them here are not even mobile, imagine a poor brat saying it looks like his workshop.
Is there any car plant that doesn't go through this coupling stage or how exactly are cars made?
Innoson sources more than 60% of his resources, so its made in nigeria!
No time for haters.
Many govts including Ghanian and transport companies use innoson already, who cares what these incompetent and lazy ppl think?

Meaningless lie

Arysexy: Coal city shuttle innoson bus cruising the whole enugu city, yet haters are asking if it is safe.

You can buy one here from the producer with a few clicks: http://gacbus.en.alibaba.com/product/472285856-212257255/Diesel_LPG_city_bus_GZ6115SV.html

https://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v1/472285856/Diesel_LPG_city_bus_GZ6115SV.jpg

thwarrior72: No he isn't igbo, Thesame with the other guy from igbo rejected tribe from PH

You think being Igbo means you must defend mediocrity just because it is put out by your tribesman?
INNOSON is putting Igbos down by saying that chinese cars are made in Nnewi. We are becoming a laughing stock and tribal pride is making some of us stick with his lies.

Emmafrancis: when your ideal leader ran off to abidjan

And yours drank lipton tea in abokki jail.

shizzleStar: lets even assume they are mediocre, that's why i asked alfa if the famous car companies today are what they are today from day one, when the ones complaining cant even boast of a good life.

There are lapses here and there, its obvious and can be improved upon, but you don't condemn at most you criticize

I condemn their lies.

ak47mann: Have you been to IVM car plant b4?

No

shizzleStar: on whose car? where were the cars assembled? so after assembling the cars they should stick the badges of what company if not innoson if may ask, or what point are you trying to make?

They should stick the badge of GAC Motors on it.

ak47mann: Meaning?

That all IVM vehicled are made by GAC motors in china. They hold the patent and INNOSON is just a licenced assembler.

cockycock: Look at you, want to buy shares? Educated man. Why not go online and see how u can manufacture matches or better still assemble phosphorus,gelatin and a tiny sticks u can get at ur backyard, at least u will employ 10 people from our unemployed youths.

If this is all you can bring to this thread, please face left. You don't know me and I'm not going to justify myself to you because of a lying Nnewi illiterate.

ak47mann: The problem with people like you is that as you jealous IVM the more the company progress and the more you see IVM cars,trucks applying nigerian roads and other african countries,your little change will not make any different if you don't buy IVM keep deceiving yourself8)

You mean GAC cars stamped IVM.

shizzleStar: nwokem you are the one insulting yourself here. Did Honda become what it is today from day one? did Toyota, Mercedes, Volkswagen, BMW, Peugeot, all become what they are today from their first day of existence? how old is innoson in the business of car manufacturing compared to those others. All those companies were also mediocres at inception.

You are a proud igbo man aren't you? you can take the lead in producing cars better than those GAC cars and make us proud, it isn't that difficult

Toyota, Mercedes, Volkswagen, BMW, Peugeot did not stick their badges on someone else's cars and call them their own.

ak47mann: not everything deserve reply

Ignorance is bliss.

davies123: Nigerians have never given unconditional support to their products like other countries do

When Kia Motors emerged in Nigeria market Nigerians purchased it till date even though it was a trashy car until very recently that that changed...

But Nigerians kept buying it and supported it
When Techno mobile came to Nigera market it was just platic toys...but guess what?
Nigerians kept purchasing it and now you know what the story is...

With the kind of comment i have read hear i can say,sadly,we are our own agent of backwardness

I was going to buy Innoson car for my sister. But not anymore. A company lying about its products can't be trusted.

cockycock: From the bolded word in ur post. I now understand the issue u have with innoson and where u are heading to. No point dragging it with u, just wallow in it. Nigerians and the pull him down syndrome. With the little education he has this man has carved a niche for himself,Federal government,private firms and even commercial transporters are scrambling for these vehicles,with no publicity nor advert. While we the over educated are too calculative, too risk conscious can't even come close to him. We Nigerians should look into how we can assist this man or even do ours.

Last few months I was so proud of INNOSON I started boasting about him everywhere. I wanted to invest and was doing an internet search to see if the company has shares or bonds I could buy, then a little google research and boom! Facepalm. Why did my brother lie to me?
I hate liars, especially stupiid lies that can be found out easily and don't help anybody? Why not tell us what they really were and ask how to progress from there?

Okijajuju1: Applying for 40% local content logic.. Lets take a case study with one of the cars...

Below are two VERY identical parts.. Apart from the tyres and maybe engine oil, what other part of this car was sourced locally..

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1692248_innoson8_jpeg505ac49fdfc72f2e2cfd6fd6e40ebcfc


Innosons Bus


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KINGSTAR NEPTUNE L6... Spot


https://image.made-in-china.com/4f0j00hBStJDHsCPrg/KINGSTAR-Neptune-L6-14-17-Seats-Light-Bus.jpg

Haha. You forgot the logo which was designed in Nnewi.

Talking of tyres, there are no local/indigenious tyre manufacturers in Nigeria and engine oils are not part of a car. Maybe they are also counting the petrol in their 40% abi na 70%.

They are calling us haters because we are exposing their lies and mediocrity.
You can't fool all the people all the time especially in this internet age.

2tex: Oga, u keep asking about the parts? Go find out urself. Shebi u get internet subscription?

Because it's all lies.

Jeezuzpick: Well said!

I'm just worried Innoson might not actually be manufacturing ANY components in their vehicles.

I can't be right, I'm sure.

They gotta be the ones making the LOGO! !!

The Logo is made in china as well.

As an Igboman, I feel very much insulted by innoson's tactics of calling low quality chinese cars made in Nigeria cars. We Igbos are capable of producing cars much better than these GAC cars. Why can't we do that instead of wallowing in mediocrity?

nwanna89: Haba...why is this an issue?

The important thing is that they are creating employment..lets stay positive...

They should stop lying to us like we are stuupiid.

persius555: Nigerians should embrace this product. For those who are complaining and grumbling, if u have nothing to offer, just ignore and move on.No one is forcing you to buy. America would not be what it is today, if the founders had the pessimist attitude that some nairalanders exhibit.

Point of correction: America will not be what it is today if accepted mediocrity and swallowed whole lies hook, line and sinker.

abu12: Please which part of the cars is innoson manufacturing in nnewi is it the tyre? The design? The body parts? The engine? The electrical part? The interior? Or innoson just outsource everything to china and come back home to couple it together. So you want to tell me that, that is how benz operate or what? The outsource everything to foreigners

Don't put "outsourcing" and mediocre INNOSON in the same sentence. You can only outsource something that you own and control. INNOSON imports already made parts. He has no imput in the manufacturing of those parts.

jobsat34: @ bolded, its 40% not 70%.. they are planning on expanding to 60% if participation/demand increases.. however, 40% locally source input is enough to claim ownership right..

Which 40% parts please?

2tex: i very well know d difference btw ''assembly'' and ''manufacture''. i dnt know ''Amex'' so i cant argue abt dat. I just used dat to cite an example.
I get ur point though, but a higher % of innoson's materials are sourced locally. What do you make of dat?

U can call it what u want but the CEO has cleared the air on dis issue.

IVM is proudly made(manufactured) in Nigeria.
U dnt expct a Newbie in d bizness to attain d level of Volvo and oda popular brands making patents engines and all dat.

Innoson has his own patent components. Go figure.

Which ones biko?

ROSSIKE: So the hell WHAT if Innoson vehicles ''are not their design''? In the grand scheme of things, ie Nigeria becoming a vehicle manufacturing power, it matters little if Innoson 'designed' their cars or if someone in China or Korea did. What matters is output. South Africa exports 300,000 cars per annum, which contributes over $40 billion annually to her GDP. The main players there are GM, Honda, Toyota, Mercedes, BMW etc. They have their car assembly plants there. None of their cars was 'designed in South Africa'. Also, many car component manufacturers exist in SA, serving the car assembly plants. The plants also import some parts etc. Nobody goes around SA saying ''this manufacturer is only 'assembling'', or ''that manufacturer is not really producing cars because he imports components from Germany'' etc etc. The most important thing is OUTPUT. Output means economic activity. The more cars produced the more money is being made, and the more Nigerians are getting paid. Simple. The Innoson plant today employs over 7,000 Nigerians! It's not some backyard enterprise. Worrying yourself over the manufacturer's production system or ethos, as opposed to counting the output, is a total waste of time and energy.

Nobody in SA goes around saying Honda, Toyota, Mercedes etc are South African cars.