₦airaland Forum

iwonbaoko: In all honesty this is nothing to do with the governor.This is just a question of the kinds of standards we accept as Africans.That place is not fit to be a veterinary hospital

I don't know any domestic animal that would agree to go there.

idoncome: You again!!! still attacking ivm. i say dis because u dnt waste time to make negative comments on any thread dat carry innoson company as headline. DEM send u or dey PAY u for d job ?? wat is ur interest cos dis is no longer a personal opinion tin. Happy hating

I'm not attacking IVM. I'm just saying things as they are. Innocent knows that Nigerians are gullible people that will believe anything told to them by people in authority. That's why he got traditional rulers on his side declaring him a car maker. Tribalism is also making us wanting to believe nonsense because as Innocent is Igbo, Igbo people will like it to be true that he is a car maker.

The reality is that Innoson was a school drop out Nnewi spare parts seller that started importing chinese motorcycles. He made money from that and started branding them IVM. He upgraded to cars. I hope one day he upgrades to making his own cars, (I would be really proud) but as of today, those IVM vehicles you are seeing were conceived, designed, and fabricated in China by GAC motors, who hold the patent for the design and parts. Innocent is an assembler that has no single patent on any part of those cars. He only has copyright to the brand name IVM and INNOSON.

And you wonder why Ebola is coming with all his family.

tomakint: This is a very cheering news, Innoson vehicles (be it trucks, buses, jeeps) have come to stay, in no short distance this proud Son of Africa will be recognised worldwide as an innovator with a class!

My people still cheering mediocrity.

Nobody knows him outside Nigeria. Assembler of Chinese cars.

Mee234: I am not saying Innoson wasn't assembling cars in the past. In fact, he started with motorcycle. Now he name his vehicle IVM, that makes the thing his own. If not, somebody would be suing him now.

Why would somebody sue him?
Do you sue your licenced distributors?

Emmafrancis: i dont usually say this , but am sorry you are so silly.
You should be grateful for Effiong for bringing that bitter, ill planed and excuted war to an end. To me he is one of the few heros of that senseless war.

May Satan spare me from leaders like Effiong.

mickyarams: The polish Polonez has got Fiat engine in them and the poles are proud of it. Mazda 2 and 3 have got ford engines in them and does not affect its Japanese heritage in anyway. The Indian Tata had humble beginnings like innosson and today they own Jaguar Landrover in England.
Innosson might be assembling different vehicle components here but we should celebrate the thousands of jobs that will create instead of going on how it's not 100% Nigerian.

I agree with you 100%.
Innoson should just stop telling us they are a car makers until they actually start making cars.

lomomike: Lexus, Honda, Toyota, Acura, Infiniti, Hyundai, they are Japanese and Korean brand, they don't come cheap depending on the model, trim level and option installed. They are well built they are more reliable and durable than most European and American brand. They don't cut corners during production Lexus for one is produced in Tahara plant which is the most robotized and most computerized manufacturing plant in the world today, They even sell much more units than the over glorified European marques. Why are they durable, reliable and sell more?
Pls let's not bring in racism or other form of sentiments into this highly interesting topic.

Thanks.

Because of market research. They ask customers what they want, what they will give up in a car to get that which they want. The surveys show them very surprising results which other tie wearing marketing executives in the over hyped european companies didn't see. So they build cars tailored to the customers' need.

I'll give you an example. Many small cars accelerate fast because the manufacturers think they need to compensate being small with speed, So they put 1.4l engines and some add turbos. What happens is that most small cars are bought by women and women don't care much about acceleration and some even don't like the fast jerking ones. So the koreans made small 1.0 litre engine cars at low price. The europeans are still playing catch up.

European car makers like SEAT or RENAULT cannot even survive today's competition without government back up.

Mee234: Just as Acura, Honda and Ford can have the capacity to do design but don't! You posting picture of similar products from different manufacturer does mean each don't have it own concept. Ketocolnazone have more than one manufacturer producing it.
NB
Innoson could send specification to those Chinese companies like others are doing.

Now, you are confusing yourself. Firstly, Acura is a brand of Honda. Secondly, Honda and Ford do design their own cars.
Thirdly, Innoson does not yet have the capability to design their own car for mass production. They make acquire the know-how in the future, but currently, they are just assembling GAC cars for West African market.

No one is innocent
No one is safe

bestym: innosson does not just stamp his badge on someone else's vehicle if that is what u are implying

Oh yes he does.

Google GAC motors, China. Check out their GONOW and TRUMPCHI brands. That's what innoson assembles in Nnewi and put his badges on.

Mee234: You this how? Have you asked innoson himself and you were told he can not conceive and implement a design? Or u think he can not because he is a Nigerian. Wouldn't that make you a presumption person making assertions base on what you think and feel instead of fact?

Oh, he can do that alright. But he doesn't.

Mee234: It doesn't mean nothing. Honda crosstur have the shape as a model of Ford and Acura(can't remember the model name). What about the hummer buses. Can you tell the different between Toyota and it NISSAN counterpart?

all these brands you quoted have something in common: they all can conceive, design and produce cars. Innoson can only assemble already manufactured parts.

jasper7: If you don't celebrate the small steps, how do you ever want to leap? Or fly?
What is wrong with people? You'd rather we had no "made in Nigeria" cars at all, Than the little IVM is doing?
Don't despise the days of little beginning. Even Usain Bolt staggered when he took his first steps.
If his parents didn't celebrate him then. Do you think the world will be celebrating him today?

There is no need to celebrate a lie.
If we must advance, we must tell ourselves the truth.

Reski: Crap story lt. colonels don't lead platoon's. Sahara reporter's editor's stop feeding us with lie's.

They do in Nigerian Army.

He thought he was facing the surrender monkey Effiong, like his father.

chibecanglobal: whose other man s car are you refering to if i may ask?

GAC motors.

Attaching your badge on another man's car does not mean you made it.

Spot the difference.

bossmini84: Dats a not true toyota for example is designed in japan but completely built in china I mean labour materials manpower same with some mercedes and bmw product. Even ur iphone is designed in the USA d core components manufactured in the usa like d processpor buh I can say 80-87 percent of d iphone is manufactured in china. U are getting what u pay for let's say u buh a ear piece for 300 naira u complain of poor quality how much do u think is the production cost. If it gets to d end consumer at 300 naira then d production cost is far less than a dollar. So nigeria is filled with poor ppl dats why u see cheap goods flooding the market.

But you don't see the chinese shouting that Toyota, BMW and mercedes are made in china cars or chinese cars.

Why are Nigerians shouting that china cars are made in Nigeria cars?

Do you know that toyota and kia design their own cars?
Do you know that toyota and kia parts are not produced in china?
Do you know that toyota and kia don't just stamp their badges on someone else's cars?

Don't compare ingenuity and mediocrity.

How una take come know which day dem born am sef?

Spoken like true coward.
Someone is afraid of losing subsidy.

hahahaha!

terrorists, extremists, insurgents, rebels, militants. Yahoo, have you exhausted your thesaurus?

slaves bragging who speaks massa's language better.

I pity Rochas Okorocha.

Boko Haram taking over and overpowering a useless army and people here are talking semantics.
please hurry up the break up. I'm tired of these freely educated fools.

texanomaly: I wonder sometimes if you have multiple personality disorder.

Me too. Sometimes I can't decide whether I am the father, the son or the unholy Alfa.

finofaya: These are not zombies. The bible does not report any craving for braaiins.

Wierd zombies eh! And the reaction of the people show they were very used to seeing the undead. What a book!

texanomaly: I don't get you.

No, you don't.

B.O.N.O.B.O = Biafran One Nigeria Ogoni Boko Organisation.