₦airaland Forum

kq:
Guys(Eko Ile, alj harem) please lets make this discussion as interesting and intellctual as possible lets stop all this sentimental insults we are hurling at ourselves. Whether the government is doing anything or not we are all agreed that Lagos is prone to flooding not just because of drainage but because of the states topography and environment. Like it was mentioned it is not an easy feat even in engineering terms to solve the problem, because of the nature of the terrain coupled with the heavy rainfall, Lagos will likely still witness flooding even with all the engineering designs in place. Instead of bashing or praising the government lets not forget that development is a continuous process and does not have a stopping point. because as you are solving one problem another problem rears its ugly head. "there is chaos in order and order in chaos"
@gare3th ekt_bear and satani22 thank you for your discussions so far.

@ evryone Eko o ni ba je, o ba je ti

well said

samdigo:
@alj_harem
not one bit, im glad i dont too, i woulda jumped off a cliff

do u know the connection of igala and nupe(northerners)

M M M:
alj_harem

ok open your mouth.

for what

samdigo:
@ alj_harem
yea nigg, my pops is, so i guess i am,

so u are igala and u do not see the connection with northerners

shame on u, i think ur pops might be disappointed with you

samdigo:
@alj_harem
no it is not bruh, its middle belt, and the people(mostly igalas) share very little in common wid the north

are u igala to talk for them

samdigo:
and neither is kogi state,

kogi is a northern state, why do u people post rubbish

hercules07:
Victoria Island is the worst hit when it comes to flooding, it is partly due to bad drainage system, blocked drainages, people building on the drainages and the sea level issue, Lagos Island is well drained, the Central Business district is very very well drained, most of the mainland is also well drained though we have a lot of blocked drainages.
The Fashola goverment needs to demolish a lot of houses and should work on the drainages, Lagosians need to stop blocking drainages, they need to stop throwing rubbish in the drainage system, we also need our drainages to be fully covered.

now you are talking

GAR3TH:
I'm not surprised because its natural, lagos sits at the mouth of the ogun river and many other smaller tributaries. Lagos also sits on a delta and many parts of lagos is below or just above sea level. Flooding has been going on in the area even before the Portuguese arrived. So to blame it on tinubu and/or fashola is just childish. Isn' it the people who built their homes in flood prone areas during the population boom.

Common drains will not fix the flooding lagos has, you'll need a massive engineering feat, constructing flood tunnels, Pump systems and underground silos. All this in an integrated drainage master plan

But the reason why fashion and other governors of lagos haven't done this is because of the cost. Lagos doesn't have the money to build what I wrote above ( ex. $ 10 Billion).

Here is an example of part Tokyo's drainage system, Do you think Lagos has enough cash to build modern drainage systems like this all over the state.

wrong, because that is the more reason it should not be flooded

Kobojunkie:
Much of the city is NOT below sea level. Most parts are still at least 5 meters above sea-level, flooding is a problem in ALL parts of the state.  As of 2004, the highest point on Lagos island was submitted to have been about 7 meters above sea level.

There are rarely hurricanes/Tornadoes in Lagos each year for one to compare Lagos to cities in places like Louisiana, or Mississippi etc. many of which are below sea level and experience flooding every other year.

This problem is simply caused as a result of improper drainage. If you had lived in the same Lagos back in the 70's/80's you would know that the problem was never this bad. Even Ikorodu now experiences serious flooding, something that was rare back only 10 years ago.

well said kobo

Wallie:
The answer to your question depends on how fast the rain is falling! If it rains for an entire day but the rain per inches per time is very little, the drainage might be able to keep up and successfully drain all the water. However, if the rain per inches is very high in a short amount of time, even the best drainage system in the world will flood, which is why you have flash-flooding.

no sir

flash floods are caused when the water does not have any where to go and thus move from a region of high gradient to a region of low gradient. this occurs mostly on clay soils because the soil is compact and does not absorb water that fast unlake other type of soil

lagos on the other hand is most sandy and humus soil because of its close proximity to the shore,

nature always move from to a region of high entropy, thus if rain falls in lagos, it is natural for the water to move down stream (provided there is a good drainage)

if the amount of rain per unite area per time is high, provide there is a good drainage, we would not experience flooding because apart from the drainage, we have a sandy, humus soil in lagos

the only way lagos can be flooded is if the lagoon over flood it's banks which is very unliklly because it is connected to the ocean and the amount of water lagos/ogun can hold will be insignificant to the amount of water in the ocean

thus the flood is caused by no proper drainage.

emmke:
Really quite sad. But i thought some of u southerners are quite happy that there is desert encroachment up north? U see. Dont wish bad on others. There's a God afterall.

u dey mind them

M M M:
aba is now improving more than lag.

shattap my friend, aba wey be like pig house

Eko Ile:
You are a lair, we've posted pictures of so many new roads and bridges in Lagos.

Olodo,

keep deceiving yourself, lagos state gets 250 billion every year that is apart from the fg allocations where as all the money gone to, let me guess to tinubus bellview,.lol

now lagos state is denying 20 billion every month, like we are dumb

keep decieving urself and ur followers

ladej:
good comeback

thank you

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=692914.msg8538342#msg8538342 date=1308330521]thank you

usa cities below sea level

Death Valley
Badwater, Death Valley, USA [−86 m (−282.2 ft)]
Furnace Creek Airport (L06), Death Valley, USA [−64 m (−210.0 ft)]
Salton Sink, USA [−66 m (−216.5 ft)]
Bombay Beach, California, USA [−69 m (−226.4 ft)]
Brawley, California, USA [−37 m (−121.4 ft)]
Calipatria, California, USA [−56 m (−183.7 ft)]
Coachella, California, USA [−22 m (−72.2 ft)]
Desert Shores, California, USA [−61 m (−200.1 ft)]
El Centro, California, USA [−12 m (−39.4 ft)]
Heber, California, USA [−5 m (−16.4 ft)]
Holtville, California, USA [−3 m (−9.8 ft)]
Imperial, California, USA [−18 m (−59.1 ft)]
Indio, California, USA [−6 m (−19.7 ft)]
Niland, California, USA [−43 m (−141.1 ft)]
Salton City, California, USA [−38 m (−124.7 ft)]
Salton Sea Beach, California, USA [−67 m (−219.8 ft)]
Seeley, California, USA [−13 m (−42.7 ft)]
Thermal, California, USA [−37 m (−121.4 ft)]
Westmorland, California, USA [−48 m (−157.5 ft)]
New Orleans, USA [−2 m (−6.6 ft)]
Laguna Salada, Mexico [−10 m (−32.8 ft)]
Lago Enriquillo, Dominican Republic [−46 m (−150.9 ft)]


for nigeria

While reflecting on causes of damage to roads, the Executive Chairman said that due to the fact that most parts of Lagos are on the average of two metres below sea level,

http://lspwc-ng.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=114:state-of-roads-lagosians-urged-to-be-more-patient&catid=47:press-release&Itemid=115

lagos is on the average 2 meter below sea level

now compare it to other cities posted above[/quote]eko ile tell us now

this are the figures before u start saying rubbish

[quote author=Chi-Dalu link=topic=692914.msg8538405#msg8538405 date=1308331105]As per the issue of drainage, Lagosians are also not helping matters at all. People empty their trash in gutters and on the streets, why wont the drainges be blocked?!. I am not trying to support Fashola unneccessarily but the guy is trying abeg. He is doing a lot right now in the area of road & proper drainage construction. It will take a while for us to see the whole effect. Cut d guy some slack abeg, Rome wasn't buiolt in a day![/quote]here comes sentimentality again

ask urself this question why did you elect a person?

is it not to sever the people that elected him in the position at the first place

rome was not built in a day but was built with brains and not mediocrity and sentiments

the guy is doing what excatly, i ask

he is not even building new road,he is patching the old road

eko altantic is not even the states project

so what is he doing

Ikengawo:
LOL so nigerians think the government controls the weather too? wooooww!

lol nigerians think the government could have done something to prevent flooding in an already known flood prone area woooww!
mumu

ziddy:

Oloorun, if there's a proper drainage system in place Lagos would not get flooded like this after just three or four hours rain.
Going by your brain-dead arguments, if it rains for an entire day straight we should all drown.

Internet Muuumuuu

gbamammm

people need to stop debated with this ideeiot called eko ile

he is just saying rubbish to make acn/tinubu/fashola look good instead of looking at it objectively

Walala:
You Lagosians are poor for a reason and will remain poor because your brains have been fried by the Lagos heat. 

You are saying Ashafa should be the next governor even though you have no insight into the guy's brain, Well let me school you on his history.

My mum used to work in the budget ministry in Lagos state and she tells me of how Ashafa used to come and beg just to have his proposals approved and he was basically a poor man.  Then all of a sudden when Tinubu became the governor in 1999. he was appointed as the Permanent secretary of the Land Bureau and the looting began.  How many stories have you read about how he and Tinubu looted the Lands bureaus and stole all your money together.  On this same site, it was detailed exactly how those guys robbed Lagos and even Ashafa threw a 50 million naira wedding for his son Tosin, who is a friend of mine and I was at the wedding.  The Ashafa  that used to beg to get minor proposals signed is now a multimillionaire over night because of Asiwaju. LAGOS WAS ROBBED BY THESE GUYS but yet Ashafa is being mentioned as the next governor candidate.   

Also Tinubu gave Ashafa a senate seat so that he can groom him for the 2015 seat and in doing that, he made a well renowned senator Mamora give up the senate seat.  Even opposition parties cried foul because Mamora was well respected in the National Assembly.  This is what Tinubu is cooking and Ashafa is a puppet to him because he made Ashafa rich and gave him a name and they are even friends, so Lagosians ask yourself do you want another Tinubu puppet in the governor's seat after all the good work that Fashola has done?  Tinubu will run Ashafa like a remote control and change will stop in Lagos.

The man for the job is GOS (Ganiyu Olanrewaju Solomon) who is the highest ranking ACN party member in the whole of Nigeria.  Tinubu doesn't want this guy to be the Senate Minority leader because he knows how powerful Solomon can become so he chooses Akume and says its because he doesn't want ACN to be  a regional party (Bullshit).  Solomon has been local government chairman, house of reps, and is a two time senator who favors the nation over himself.  Tinubu even said it himself that GOS is more concerned about the people's welfare than any personal gratification. 

I end with my favorite quote "My people perish because of their lack of knowledge".

best comment so far

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=692914.msg8538345#msg8538345 date=1308330542]my point is flooding happens every year in parts of the US.

likewise, wildfires.


lagos state govt is not superman and i'm sure will do whatever it can to alleviate the situation, but with the overpopulation of lagos, it's a very tough call.

of course telling developers and tenants not to live in or market flood prone areas, isnt an option because our suffering is too much in nigeria.[/quote]my sister/wife

ok i would listen my wife

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=692914.msg8538276#msg8538276 date=1308329908]Hrm. Is Lagos really below sea level? Looking around a bit online, it looks like most of it is not. I think it is a drainage issue primarily.

How much longer does the rainy season last for?[/quote]thank you

usa cities below sea level

Death Valley
Badwater, Death Valley, USA [−86 m (−282.2 ft)]
Furnace Creek Airport (L06), Death Valley, USA [−64 m (−210.0 ft)]
Salton Sink, USA [−66 m (−216.5 ft)]
Bombay Beach, California, USA [−69 m (−226.4 ft)]
Brawley, California, USA [−37 m (−121.4 ft)]
Calipatria, California, USA [−56 m (−183.7 ft)]
Coachella, California, USA [−22 m (−72.2 ft)]
Desert Shores, California, USA [−61 m (−200.1 ft)]
El Centro, California, USA [−12 m (−39.4 ft)]
Heber, California, USA [−5 m (−16.4 ft)]
Holtville, California, USA [−3 m (−9.8 ft)]
Imperial, California, USA [−18 m (−59.1 ft)]
Indio, California, USA [−6 m (−19.7 ft)]
Niland, California, USA [−43 m (−141.1 ft)]
Salton City, California, USA [−38 m (−124.7 ft)]
Salton Sea Beach, California, USA [−67 m (−219.8 ft)]
Seeley, California, USA [−13 m (−42.7 ft)]
Thermal, California, USA [−37 m (−121.4 ft)]
Westmorland, California, USA [−48 m (−157.5 ft)]
New Orleans, USA [−2 m (−6.6 ft)]
Laguna Salada, Mexico [−10 m (−32.8 ft)]
Lago Enriquillo, Dominican Republic [−46 m (−150.9 ft)]


for nigeria

While reflecting on causes of damage to roads, the Executive Chairman said that due to the fact that most parts of Lagos are on the average of two metres below sea level,

http://lspwc-ng.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=114:state-of-roads-lagosians-urged-to-be-more-patient&catid=47:press-release&Itemid=115

lagos is on the average 2 meter below sea level

now compare it to other cities posted above

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=692914.msg8538227#msg8538227 date=1308329542]louisiana and missisippi were themselves flooded this year.[/quote][quote author=tpia@ link=topic=692914.msg8538232#msg8538232 date=1308329580]yes, depending on the location.

likewise, wildfires.[/quote]Mississippi is a river that over flooded its banks

we do not experience wildfire in nigeria most ecspecially not the humid south

there is not excuss for lagos state government

Eko Ile:
1. I was addressing your ignorance with that point. This is nature, Lagos is under the sea level so there's always going to be flood, just like all the communities under the sea level all over the world.

2. Can you prove to me that that Lagos state government is yet to build drainage system for 12 years?

Why do you people lie and display so much ignirance just to make your misguided points.

dude use ur head for once and stop this ACN/TINUBU/FASHOLA a55 licking

lagos is below sea level, so is new york, boston, london etc but this places are not flooded because of rain unless there is a tsunami or huricane

lagos does not experience tsunami or huricane so what reason are you giving here

please if u have nothing better to say, please stop posting

ezeagu:
I think I saw this type of thing near Port Harcourt a few years ago, there really isn't any excuse.

gbammmm

Eko Ile:
Olodo, the pictures below are from the US. You mean Tinubu and the governors in the US states experiencing flood bought planes instead of building drainage?.


Your trolling and dumbness is way way ahead of your brains.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

chai!!!!! eko ile u are a bit slow

so because USA is going through that , it means Lagos MUST go through that as well

more over USA flood is late notice unlike lagos which for years after years have been known to be flood prone

please my brother think

or is Lagos facing hurrican or tsunami like the USA and other countries

LOL

ode remo:
wait till your lagos atlantic city/lekki phase 7 is submerged below sea level.
na today.

gbammmmmm

ezeagu:
Lagos is looking worse than Aba.

better

Eko Ile:
[size=15pt]Get used to it, Lagos is below the sea level. [/size]

is this what tinubu or fashola would say ?

Up ACN

tinubu has money to buy bellview but can not tell fashola to use some of the money to do proper drainage

rubbish

kbdrim:
@ jbenue, Chief Ajene Okpabi dressed as an emir, he and the current ochi idoma Ikoyi obekpa attend northern traditional rulers meeting, go read your history books and stop showing your ignorance to the world, u can claim to b an american, it doesnt change the fact that in nigerians constitution they has never been anything likethe middlebelt,,it is north west north east and north central, dont rewrite history

well said

Bliss4Lyfe:
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Muslcar:
In Nigeria who are our enemies u and desola keep talking about?

dont be stu.pid , he saw ur question before and he did not respond so why do u keep asking

are u people that daf.t

Jbenue:
bash and alj majari i will get you a crate full of the finest idoma oranges and yams and you two can have a long chat about your similarities just post me your adresss eh ma guy.

ask onlytruth, he knows best

bashr4:
so what should we call them

we can call them igala(northerners)

bashr4:
shut up we igbos dont chew grass

but u feel comfortable to claim igala or idoma and still they dont want to be claimed

i as a kanuri man have been on this site since but u have not claim me as if u have not seen me all this days

why na