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haka nai nago de

thank you so much for that post

Ngodigha:
Ashawo, it's high time you give up tribalism.

anit u worse than her

ideeiot

Ngodigha:
This idiotic post belongs to the waste bin. How do you expect the Midwest groups to allow the Alafin of Oyo to Lord it over them. Or are you saying that Itsekiris, Edos, Urhobos, Isokos and Etsakos are now Yorubas. What a brainless thread.
How about the north?. The borno and Yobe states were never under the sultanate and will never be. How about Kingless societies in the middle belt such as Idomas, Tvis etc.
That of the east should not be discussed at all. It seems the O.P left his brain at home today before starting this imbecilic thread.

mumu, did u talk about the east

Jarus:
Sorry to correct you, I have gone beyond letters-to-the-editor since more than 5 years now. What I write is 'Opinion' or 'Commentary', full half page, and on two occasions, Daily Sun and Leadership have given my articles 'Guest Columnist' status, the ones Atedo Peterside, Nasir el-Rufai and Eddie Iroh are given. An higher education-focus magazine in Abuja has also just approached me for permanent column writing in their new outfit, which is expected to hit the newsstand soon.

offa man, how u dey today

Reference:
Indeed a recent study reveals that over [size=13pt][color=#770077]25,000 people from across the world move into Lagos for various reasons on a daily basis.

This statement is another high flying kite that's not entirely accurate. Our population is rapidly rising and rural urban drift is well in tango with wide spread poverty but this is common to all urban cities in Nigeria not Lagos alone. The Portharcourt I met in 1996 is a fraction of what it is today. Abuja in the days of the Abacha regime is nothing like it is today. Crowding, traffic jams, etc. To say or mean 25,000 people move into or locate to Lagos on a daily basis will no doubt empty the population of the remaining states and capitals of Nigeria in just 13 years when we know they are all growing simultaneously.

Our population growth is just unsustainable. This is one area we have to tackle with all vigour. China and India are two countries with similar profiles to ours and have both effected population control policies. And they came way before their boom years. However if we believe a large population is an asset like some do then that population has to be productive and hey can only be if they are educated and enlightened which unfortunately is not the case so we readily feel the impact.

welll said as well, didn't think from that point of view

[quote author=EzeUche! link=topic=694519.msg8555022#msg8555022 date=1308581829]My brothers of the South, we know who are the real problem.

It is the North! They have introduced bombing to Nigeria and now we are starting to resemble Pakistan, Iraq and other Arab countries.[/quote]u have started with this ur anti north thing again, ideeiot

is massob north now

Eziachi:
I am sure if they do carry gun as you being prescribed, I am sure you will be the first to bring the noose for their neck to hang.
I very much doubt your advise as genuine. Read all the posted stuff so far and tell me what they will write or insinuate if MASSOB took your advise?

Eziachi, i u read my post all this while, u would see I have never condemned boko haram

neither have i condemned mend for carrying arms so why should massob be different

my advise is very genuine and true, the government would keep arresting them and killing massob members while opc, mend and boko haram members go free

the sooner they take up arms the better

Eziachi:
I  took time to read all the posts over this paticular thread and came to one conclusion that it likely that 90% of contributors to issues here do not read first what they are responding to. If not how can anyone with brain not to understand what Uwzuruike actually said, not the attractive headline that had no bearing on the content?

The man is saying that by the action of Nigerian govt regarding violent organisations like MEND/BOKO HARAM shows that they listened or respects violence than peace. He mentioned how despite MASSOB's ideology of a free Biafran state out of Nigeria using peaceful means, no govt of Nigeria has deem it fit to invite them for a talk or anything, rather they get arrested and gullaged in various Nigerian prisons and many of them killed in the last 2 yeaars.

But with MEND no one  touches them, even at atime GEJ chose to become their PRO but they've been financially rewarded instead, sent on foreign trips in the guise of rehabilitation programme, invited to Aso Rock to dine and their leaders taken on various ride on the presidential jets many times.  
Boko Haram has been around for just two years and within that time, Uwazuruike was saying, they had assasinated many politicians, caused untold hardship for many and now bombed Abuja and there is calls  and plan now by the govt to  invite them for a talk and possibley Nigerian settlement.

MASSOB wants independeent of Biafran and Boko Haram want the same for a segment of  Nigeria based on Islam but where they differ is their tactics. That is what Uwazuruike is sarcastically asking you fools whether it won't pay that MASSOB joins Boko Haram/ MEND's violence tactics so that they can be listened to and stopped being imprisoned or killed by the Nigeria security forces for just carrying Biafran flags?.

He never say he wants to physically join the Boko Haram crusade but only making analysis of their positions with regards to the use of peaceful means and violence means, because so far it seems violence pays in Nigeria.
Many of you has no brain or is it just the usual Igbo thing that makes people lose their sense of reasoning?

Mr Eziachi, so what is stopping Massob from taking arms and bombs

if mend, boko haram can do why can't massob so it

i see no problem in this Eziachi, infact the sooner they start blowing up things the better it is for them and everyone but they should just stay in the SE.

jason123:
A very good question. I know lots of SWestern people in UK that are planning to settle in Port harcourt when they come to Nigeria.

Other states are not taking advantage of their "situation". For instance, Ogun state should be the next big thing because of the increase in working class people that want cheap accommodation. This can ONLY be achieved of there is a FAST TRAIN FROM LAGOS TO OGUN!

Port harcourt will sooner, rather than later, become the next "Lagos". States such as Abia and Awka Ibom will be at the advantage.

We need  to "ECONOMICALLY INTEGRATE" these major cities. What I mean by this is, build a major FAST train from Ogun and Kwara (we need to be able to transport food fast) to Lagos, to Delta(Warri), Edo, to Port harcourt to Akwa Ibom (calabar to be specific), to Abia back to Delta(Asaba), then, a direct non-stop train to Kano, then, back to Lagos. Let Abuja remain the FCT for the thieves.

If this can be done, it will reduce the pressure on our roads, thus reducing traffic. It will also save time and as they say, "time is money". This will boost our revenue and will be sustainable in the long run.

u forgot, borno, lokoja, jigawa, and sokoto

dj187:
Port Harcourt is gradually suffering 4rm the same population problem as lagos, as people from all parts of the country are flooding in to seek greener pastures notably people from the east (igbos) who come wit thier business skills to boost the economy of the oil rich city except for some bunch of igbo criminals dat do come along also thereby wrecking havoc in the city (stealing cars & dismantling dem and other crime related activities) also people 4rm the north, west and other niger-delta states most especially people 4rm akwa-ibom. Now my big question is, is it that nuttin is really happening in other states apart 4rm lagos & port-harcourt?

i think crime has a direct relationship with population although the rate of crime in kano(second highest population) is low when compare to places like port harcount, lagos and now abuja.

jigawa state, ogun state and enugu are also trying to improve there states as well, according to SE nairalanders they said enugu is doing well, ( am not sure of that because the better the state, the more the population)

nuclearboy:
@alj_harem

Do we really have a president? I think what we have is a c[b]omposite of all the things those around him say and what seems fashionable. Facebook for example, seems more important than national se[/b]curity

sad president

i love the way this country is going, really

massob haram in the making,

yet our president said i quote

bombing is happening everywhere in the world, nigerians do not need to panic

Calculia:
Na dat speculation of oil in Lake Chad region Jonathan suppose explore and if any expliot.  Nuff Said!

just google oil borno state

Oil and Gas Exploration
Borno State lies within the Chad Basin area and exploration for hydro carbon, that is oil and gas, has commenced as evidence abound on the the availability of oil and gas in the Basin. Oil and gas have already been discovered in the eastern and western parts of the basin in the neighbouring Republics of Niger and Cameroon.

http://www.commonwealth-of-nations.org/Nigeria/Organisation/Government/Regional_And_Local_Government/Borno

[quote author=Abu-Maryam link=topic=694519.msg8552949#msg8552949 date=1308563674]SHARRAP!!The marriage is over, na by force? everyone should find his on way the country's unity is no more. I didn't see development in a place where

sabotage became the affair of the day. The political class had succeeded in dividing their subjects. religiously, regionally, and what have you. The feelings

and  mantra of masses had turn into devilish. There was a thread here on NL a poster asking the most revered Nigerians dead or alive, i made mention of

some musicians, some are funny out of my post but if you ponder it i was correct. Most of our past leaders succeeded in nothing but in sowing the seed of

hatred in the mind of Nigerians i'm sure time is vindicating the past.  I don't have the feeling that this country shall rise again with reference to the realities

on the ground.[/quote]well said

[quote author=EzeUche! link=topic=693896.msg8551043#msg8551043 date=1308528706] [/quote]i like that

[quote author=haka_nai link=topic=693896.msg8551025#msg8551025 date=1308528519]^^^^ SW and SS[/quote]if jonathan is not going to rule 2015, then unless it is northern president, i would rather vote jonathan back in

funny isn't it

acn now teachng pdp or should i say jona

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=694216.msg8550498#msg8550498 date=1308520105]I'm not sure there wouldn't be stringent penalties for environmental degradation but ofcourse, na 9ja e be so, anything can happen.

On the whole, just a bit of inquisition on my part cos it could be my brain is failing me here but, where in the north is there oil? (And please don't dodge the question).[/quote]Borno and goes all the way to part of lake chad

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=694216.msg8550332#msg8550332 date=1308517602][b]Since when did PH have more potential than Nnewi and Onitsha? Is it cos of the oil companies, seaport etc? Onitsha can also be an oil city if the reserves in Anambra are exploited. [/b]What we all need is planning and capital. Onitsha and Nnewi already have master plans of which I do have copies. Notwithstanding, Rivers and Delta already generate huge tax from the oil companies plus the increased FG allocation they enjoy.

FG should target those states where there're huge clusters of people. The rapid infrastructural development of such states will drastically decrease the pressure on Lagos.[/quote]them people

believe me, to be come a power/economic hub, u do not want oil to be found in ur land

once there is oil exploration in anambra, that is it for the dream of becoming any economic center because of the degeration of the land

oil is found in the SW and North but u do not see these 2 region exploring theres

infact lagos has it that only 1 oil company at a time, drive thru 3rd mainland brigbe u would see what am talking about

i would like to see the copies u have o onisha and nnewi

huge cluster of people are found in lagos, port harcount, kano, warri, u can give me more

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=694216.msg8550195#msg8550195 date=1308516311]You're right. The government should really do something about Lagos. But I think that, for the private sector to be interested in other cities outside of Lagos, FG has to at least try and alleviate the infrastructure in those states rather than leave it to the mercy of the concerned state's budget.

There're states that need FG help in terms of rapid urban re-development which would encourage rapid industrialisation which in turn, will drastically expand the country's economy though I doubt the FG's seriousness in such initiatives.

States like Anambra, Abia, Imo (all with highly commercialized cities e.g. Onitsha, Aba, Nnewi, Owerri), Delta and Kano should be given utmost attention by the FG to rapidly develop infrastructure in such states.

If I were GEJ, I would think of a special budget for infrastructural development for such states with the aim of easing the pressure on Lagos. I would be surprised if he hasn't thought of this already.  

FG should never make the mistake they made in Lagos, in other potential states by allowing the massive population influx without adequate infrastructures to support such influx but well, I guess we've always had porous governments whose officials have mainly been concerned with lining their pockets.[/quote]them people

i still think port harcount holds much more potential than nnewi, onitcha etc

also i also believe kano city

if not for MEND madness, Rivers state would have been bigger than this

asorocker:
I don't know why this keeps coming up when people know the truth and refuse to tell the truth.

Lagos is hosting all the oil company headquaters in nigeria, some upstream  oil companies like saipem, chevron, mobil, total, shell and sapetro is in lagos. Even when there is no oil company in lagos and lagos is not the capital of nigeria.

If this oil companies can relocate to the niger delta then lagos will be correctly populated.
Anyother solution will never work and will amount to using oxygen to put off a burning flame.if you build infrastructure like road and schools , it will attract more people .

as u can see river (port harcount) is indeed an emerging economy in nigeria

ameache has to do it right, oil companies love lagos because of the population, airport and security

once those sturtures are in port harcount, then give the state about 10 yrs, u would see the magic as people would influx the state

currently in port harcount(no man's land) houses about 10% northerner 30%yorubas 40% igbos 20% ijaws/ikwerri and other minorities

i just hope port harcount can take advantage of its current low population and do some housing plan unlike lagos

companies would rush there, also there is need to check MEND, BAKASSI BOYS ETC before they can move

MeandSum:
Guys, I hate to spoil the party. ask yourselves why there's no timeline before you start singing "i've seen the light"
This looks more like a stunt to me. You can sign 100 Memorandums and do nothing. We've been there before.

and that is why the good people of enugu and indeed nigeria need to put pressure on the man to do it before leaving office 2015.

without pressure the man might just be sleeping

Dyt:
Highchief?
I dont think so

well that is the truth, when i am really bored i notice this things

infact Highchief is even worse than Ezeuche, believe me on this

well, lets keep watching

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=693728.msg8548149#msg8548149 date=1308491868]Even Enugu and Anambra still have pit toilets. Who are you pretending for?[/quote]ileke idi, this has nothing to do with the topic

bashr4:
pit toilet?? do people still use pit toilets especially in the bigh cities

yes, there are pit toilets is taiwan, japan and parts of china. so people still use pit toilets, they are also found in states like kano,owerri, ibadan,sokoto, jos warri and rivers and this are big cities as well

macjive01:
Folks, lambasting me is ineffectual, could none of you point out JUST two credible initiatives Fashola has done in the past four years.

look, no doubt there is transformation in lagos,

. NEW SHOPPING MALLS

. LOTS OF CINEMAS SPRINGING UP CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE

. LOTS OF MEGA HOTELS

. LOTS OF  CLASSIC, EXQUISITE RESTAURANTS

. LOTS OF HOUSING ESTATES

. EVEN SOME EXPANSIVE STRETCHES OF ROAD.

sounds nice, marvelous,  even "eko ni ba je" , but the resounding problem with the above is that,  [size=18pt]THE ARE ALL PRIVATE[/size].  

even the roads, the are now being  built by persons wud turn around to milk the living day light out of Lagosians via tolls.

The  big question is , SINCE MOST DEVELOPMENTS WE SEE IN THE STATE ARE MOSTLY PRIVATE WHAT IS FASHOLA AND ACN DOING WITH UNPRECEDENTED HEFT TAX THEY ARE COERCING FROM THE INNOCENT CITIZENRY, FEDERAL ALLOCATION  ?

Don't forget the world bank has been actively involve in lots of big projects in that state, then what project can fashola point to as a state, his pet  project ?

good one

just to add

what did tinubu do with the loan he got from the world bank when he said he was going to do a railway for the state

also fashola as asked for the same loan from the same world bank for railway

OP

i see what u are saying and as u can see, even alj harem has stopped

but when u stop, u would see some ideeiot from the SE opening up topic again about other ethnic groups

well the ball is in there court

even f/y/z stranger has stopped so why can't aloy-emeka, highchief, chino11, adejoro74, sadiq, and co stop

lets keep looking, i just hope it does not get to the breaking point

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=675773.msg8545766#msg8545766 date=1308439264]Thanks, AljHarem.

But I wanted to know more about the Balogun (Alli ?) that rebelled against him.  I think the above was in the original post.  I'll look for info online when I'm able. [/quote]ok, i wil also do some more research about him,

[size=15pt]Momodu Lamuye[/size]

Momodu Ayinla Lamuye was a titled Nigerian traditional ruler who held the office of Oluwo of Iwo. He is considered one of the most zealous Muslim Obas in Yoruba land during the nineteenth century and used his office to consolidate the religion in his domain.

Life

Lamuye was born to the family of Oluwo Ogunmakinde Anide. Interestingly, he was given the Muslim name of Momodu at birth.
He succeeded his father but his choice drew complaints from Iwo traditional religion adherents within the royal households who raised concerns about his practice of Islam and how he would be able to carry out with traditional rituals. Lamuye doused the tension by accepting to give necessary assistance to officials involved in traditional rites.
Lamuye's reign witnessed a gradual growth in Islam in the town. However, it is noted that Islam preceded the reign of Lamuye in Iwo, it was supposedly established in the town during the reign of Oluwo Alawusa (c. 1795-1820). However, another Iwo tradition dates the beginning of the religion in Iwo to a man called Momodu an itinerant preacher during the reign of Oluwo Layilumi who died around 1750.
In 1863, he had to deal with a revolt in his domain led by the Balogun, Alli who was a powerful leader prior to the coronation of Lamuye. He succeeded in containing the revolt by recruiting loyalist troops to quell the rebellion and contacting Bashorun Ogunmola to allow Alli to remain in exile in Ibadan.

i would go for

1. Buhari

2. Awolowo

3. Fela

i got ur message, thanks

apoti:
Corpses are found in the tunnel everywhere in the world, Nigerians there's no need to panic

are u jonathan