₦airaland Forum

andyandy:
Its time for Nigerian masses to identify who really represent them, every time the oil subsidy issue comes to the fore the Oil industry will immediately increase the prices without justifying it to the general public. Can they prove that the removal of subsidies is really affecting their profitability and that they won't still declare huge profits at the end of the year?

Nigeria's refining capacity is practically non-existent, and one of the main reason is the subsidy, with its removal oil companies will have to consider refining locally.

The labour organisations NLC and TUC rarely challenge the oil companies on this issue. Refining locally will drive down prices in the long run. As it is now only the Nigerian oil cartel is benefiting from the whole fiasco known as oil subsidy which is no longer useful if Nigeria really wants to diversify its economy.

A lot of nations subsidise sectors of their economies but not petroleum industry where the profit margin is really high as it is.

Oil subsidy has outlived its usefulness to the Nigerian economy.

Beaf and co do you really have to form a different ID to make Nigerians look stu.pid ?

The oil companies are PRIVATE BUNINESSES AND THUS SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN DEREGULATED, THEY CAN EVEN SET THE PRICE TO 1000 N PER LITER. It does not matter since there is no regulation or law stopping them.

Don't play with our intelligence Ok. Stop insulting us Ok !!!

victorazy:
Is she the president of Nigeria now?

She is our default prime minister appointed by GEJ

Kobojunkie:
@Poster, quick question. What is wrong with funding protest against a policy? Do you believe it is WRONG or ILLEGAL to do such?  I ask because you posted this.
What makes you think funding protests is WRONG? I ask especially since as citizens we all have rights to fund whatever cause we want and believe in.

+ 10

you know we have to many ethnic bigots and half-educated mo.rons on this site.

[quote author=mega-omo link=topic=837675.msg9899145#msg9899145 date=1325756657]Nothing is happening in otukpo or makurdi for that matter. My Benue folks were's the Naija love,c'mon lets go!!!!![/quote]There was protest in Makurdi yesterday

Beaf:
^
Dude, you are misfiring. Nobody is trying to undo any reap off.

We are simply reacting to hypocrisy and the lies behind the attempted braindead civilian putsh.
before that putsh, there were all sorts of threats driven by open bigotry from farcist and feudal political parties and politicians; it took various forms, from boko haram to all sorts of insults. The good thing is, its all in your face now, from a state of emergency to the removal of the subsidy; carry out your "revolution." In the end, there will be unmistakable winners and clear losers.

Nobody can say with a straight face that the intellectuals from all corners of the country do not know that the removal of the subsidy will be of immense benefit to Nigeria. Instead, they are being hypocritical and pretending to fight for the common man they have spent their whole lives burying.

Anybody that argues that the removal of the subsidy is bad to the extent that they want to overthrow a legitimate govt, is a bloody hypocrite.

you are such a bigot and I would not lie, the SW and Middle belt SHOULD BE REGRETTING

1. You call them parasites

2. you called this a revengeful government against the SW and north ?

3. You keep throwing words like parasite, non-oil produing without facing the actual fact/ topic about the removal of fuel subsidy


4. Do you think we do not know that subsidy has to be removed ? Look Mr man stop playing with our intelligence Ok

Keep playing the ethnic card, and be decieving the igbos by given the the euphorias. One day the truth shall come out.

chima12:
There are no protests in SS/SE.People in these zones have accepted fuel subsidy in good faith as a prelude to resource control.Whoever claims there is any protest in edo state is a liar.The parasites benefiting from this fuel subsidy and fake federalism in nigeria are SW and core north.These internet protest mobilizers[from SW and core north ] are simply looking for a group to join them and become the scape goat for their failing/failed protests but they will not find any.When Odi in SS was being destroyed and people being killed under a civilian administration by a southwesterner,where were these protesters?

I keep telling you Igbos, if you don't knwo what to say I would advice you to learn to ohaneze by keeping shut Ok

smell the coffee, there was protest in edo yesterday and today. You ideeiot

No one has called the SE so what is your stress ?

[quote author=One_Naira link=topic=838107.msg9897673#msg9897673 date=1325729106]I support the bolded. An average Igbo, SE and SS knows this protest is not going to change the mind of the of the politician especially when the protest is about something we experienced and still experiencing.  It is now a national problem and they b1tching about it  .  As a former comment mentioned when SS was protesting and crying where was other Nigerian region, the only other region that stood up for us was SE, now they want us to protest with them? Commot.  When SE was protesting, they were branded as bad by Nigerians, now SE decided not to protest, Na wahalla too. What do they want? Is an Igbo or any other SE or SS protesting going to change the outcome of what happened? I suppose because the scapegoat refused to protest, a new scapegoat has to surface in case things turns sour and they do not want that.  I support Igbo not protesting; I support SE and SS as whole not protesting we want succession, not revolution.  Nigeria is unfixable and every day, Nigeria proves this fact.  Each year new problem surfaces and when that is dealt with, another problem surfaces. It is as easy as ABC, as they say you cannot save a dead man, all you can save is a dying man. Nigeria has corrupted the mind of SE and SS politicians, when Nigeria break apart, our politicians will be dealt with but as for now let us focus on the breaking away part thus SE and SS listen to the old, young and new do not protest.  Listen oo!, don’t get involved at all.[/quote]shey nigerians beg u ?

btw too late

[size=18pt]protest in edo state[/size]

BENIN CITY - A student body under the aegis of Edo Youths For Good Governance (EYFGG) yesterday carried out a protest march, calling on the federal government to revert its decision on the removal of fuel subsidy.

The group also circulated a letter which was signed by its President, J.C. Iyamu Osaro and Director of Public Affairs, Comrade Ehigiator James, saying the decision for the removal was orchestrated by the ruling class to continue to impoverish other poor Nigerians.

He said unemployment which had been the bane behind the criminal vices like kidnapping, armed robbery, bombing and insecurity in the land could have been addressed through direct investment on infrastructural development across the decaying sector of the economy that spaned the length and breathe of the country.

The group which carried placards with inscription such as: “Say no to fuel subsidy removal”, Say no to austerity measures” and Say no to local colonial leaders on fuel prices” accused the President Jonathan-led government of inflicting pains on Nigerians.

The statement added, “Since Jonathan emerged as the President of Nigeria, we have continued to experience economic crises, insecurity and another pain have been added unto our pains, we are saying no to fuel subsidy removal, we are saying that Jonathan should harness the resources of the country, he should create an idea that is geared towards impacting on the lives of our people.

Today we see austerity measure in the country; we are ready to join all the civil groups to protest the removal of fuel subsidy. We will continuously embark on massive protest, there is going to be revolution like what we see in Libya, Jonathan is a failure.

http://nigerianobservernews.com/04012012/news/news1.html

Onlytruth:
The Nigeria that you used to own is no more my friend. It ended when Jonathan entered. When he is done, you will not recognize it again. Subsidy is GONE FOR GOOD. Live with it.
It's your business what you do with this thread. Mine was to let you know that most of you are dying in your land silently.

why are u kissing and winking at dying people ?

hmmm ok i know what to do

[quote author=One_Naira link=topic=837811.msg9897589#msg9897589 date=1325726506]   Isn't it comical, the amount of hate you have for a particular group whom are doing alot better than you'll ever do in your entire life?  Out of curiosity, name a group in Nigeria not doing any of the crime you ascribe as an Igbo crime and i'll prove you wrong right here and now. If we are such a curse, grant us our wish, let us leave.  No other group in Nigeria have been screaming we want out of Nigeria as much as Igbo do yet you keep us, fought us to keep us in this supposed "curse" of sh1t-hole Nigeria in the same country which you deem we cursed?  Let us go jor, so we can continue living our blessed life in a better industry and a better country.  Nigeria is holding us back, imagine SE and SS, despite having little after Biafran war and despite others trying to keep it down still imagined to outdo other Nigerians as whole yet you wonder who cursed who? Abeg.  Let us leave, rid yourself of the curse why don't you? Imagine a curse calling others a curse.  Wetin I no go see for NL.
 

I hate when NL talk out of their asses sometimes. SW and North hate Igbo and we know, the feeling is gradually becoming mutual thanks to NL and your obvious hatred but stop dragging other tribes into your hatred.  No matter how much you like it, Igbo have been in a good reference with other SE groups as well as SS groups too.  You try to divide us till king dom come but yet it is not working.  Continue trying if you like, it is still not going to work.[/quote]Tomorrow South-south aka edo and rivers state would protest Insha Allah. I hope delta too would join

and I don't know why you keep saying the north and SW hate you ?

You really need to start ignoring some posters. Ok !!!

Dude, no one has time for ur rant

if you notice people have been ignoring una baifrans aka tribalist since yesterday until this saga is over

Once it is over I and others would have time to give you ur fix as required. As of now stop promoting tribalism

Already, North-central people on tweeter are asking why South-east is in and some are saying they are too tribalistic

Don't worry, when I have time I would do a proper job by putting you in ur place. Ok !!!

kingoflag:
Should I give you the answer Beaf has been running around town spreading as the solution to your problems?

TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR GOVERNORS AND LG CHAIRMEN.

Sounds stupi*d, right?

No worry, na all of una the thing go bite real soon keep playing the tribalism card. I hope Nigeria splits without bloodshed so you can be stuck with the same Officials you have right now, na then you go know say Khaki no be the same as leather. Or who do you think will rule when everyone goes their separate ways; you or the man with Billions of embezzled Dollars stashed in his bank account?!

God! What kind of mentality has poverty given these people?!

Very well said, Nigerians are watching

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=839123.msg9897551#msg9897551 date=1325725074]Alj, You need to edit the opening post to add "Removal" at the end of the title.[/quote]thanks I hope you are good, and how was work today ?

[size=15pt]North Central Christians mobilise against removal of fuel subsidy[/size]

Jos: Two civil right groups, the United Action for Democracy (UAD), North Central Zone and Christian Foundation for Social Justice and Equity say they would mobilize citizens in the zone to embark on mass protests against the removal of oil subsidy as from Monday. The groups in a joint statement on Wednesday signed by Messrs Joseph Sangosanya and Jide Afolabi for the Christian foundation and UAD respectively, described the increase in the price of petrol as inhuman considering the hardship Nigerians were already going through.

“We consider this policy not only insensitive, ill thought out and absolutely unnecessary, but also provocative and inhumane. Given the fact that 80% of Nigerians live below what is considered the poverty line, and 90% live on less than two dollars a day, an increase of this magnitude or whatever magnitude for that matter will spell social and economic doom for the vast majority of Nigerians who are already overburdened by unemployment, poor infrastructure, high cost of living, unaffordable basic social services and dwindling livelihoods.

“As it stands, cost of transport, goods and other services have already tripled in all states of the North Central Zone and elsewhere. Transport fare from Jos to Abuja that used to be N1, 200, is now N2500. Some families who travelled out of the State for the festivities are already stranded as their budget can no longer take them back home”, it said.

The statement added that Nigerians were not convinced on government’s pledge of judicious use of the money saved from the subsidy removal adding, “going by previous similar promises by the same economic think tank (like the $1billion to be saved annually from Paris Club debt deal and channeled into critical infrastructure), it is clear that this government has neither the will nor the sincerity of purpose to pursue real transformative and poverty alleviating economic reforms.

Worse still, government’s failure to tackle the ‘cabal’ which it claims at every instance is responsible for colossal fraud in oil importation, and its failure to revamp the refineries (which by the way if operating at installed capacity can provide both the real and ‘ghost’ local consumption figures), is proof of this.

It is worrying that in a country that is rated as a key exporter of crude oil on the one hand, while its citizens are noted as some of the poorest in the world on the other; government will even contemplate such a debilitating economic policy.”

It added: “Beginning from Monday the 9th of January, 2012, we shall mobilize citizens to begin an indefinite series of mass actions aimed to registering discontent over the suffering this policy has already begun to bring about.”

It condemned attempts by some state governments to ban protests arguing that freedom of assembly and to protest against unpopular government policies were constitutionally guaranteed rights of citizens.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/groups-mobilize-against-fuel-subsidy-removal/

[quote author=senbonzakura_kageyoshi link=topic=838107.msg9897538#msg9897538 date=1325724801]smh.
if this is how you argue your points, by getting personal and throwing insults, then I find it rather unsuprising that nairalanders think you are reno omakri. you, the very same person that "advised" me not to get personal on another thread, is getting personal on an issue you claim to be making "iindependent comments" on.
you sit there and call other nigerians leeches and beggars; tell me you have never benefited from something that doesn't belong to you and i'll take you as the biggest liar i've ever come across. the money your parents put into paying your school fees, did you work for it? why didn't you tell them to shelve it, that you would work it out yourself?

in my opinion, you have no ccredibility left[/quote]+ 10

Beaf is gradually being exposed

Don't forget, not only him but his goons such as Onlytruth, Point B, dmainboss etc

North central, We are with you in mind and spirit.

Benue, Kogi, Kwara, all did theirs today

it remains Pleatue and co

North central Christians mobilise against fuel subsidy


Jos: Two civil right groups, the United Action for Democracy (UAD), North Central Zone and Christian Foundation for Social Justice and Equity say they would mobilize citizens in the zone to embark on mass protests against the removal of oil subsidy as from Monday. The groups in a joint statement on Wednesday signed by Messrs Joseph Sangosanya and Jide Afolabi for the Christian foundation and UAD respectively, described the increase in the price of petrol as inhuman considering the hardship Nigerians were already going through.

“We consider this policy not only insensitive, ill thought out and absolutely unnecessary, but also provocative and inhumane. Given the fact that 80% of Nigerians live below what is considered the poverty line, and 90% live on less than two dollars a day, an increase of this magnitude or whatever magnitude for that matter will spell social and economic doom for the vast majority of Nigerians who are already overburdened by unemployment, poor infrastructure, high cost of living, unaffordable basic social services and dwindling livelihoods.

“As it stands, cost of transport, goods and other services have already tripled in all states of the North Central Zone and elsewhere. Transport fare from Jos to Abuja that used to be N1, 200, is now N2500. Some families who travelled out of the State for the festivities are already stranded as their budget can no longer take them back home”, it said.

The statement added that Nigerians were not convinced on government’s pledge of judicious use of the money saved from the subsidy removal adding, “going by previous similar promises by the same economic think tank (like the $1billion to be saved annually from Paris Club debt deal and channeled into critical infrastructure), it is clear that this government has neither the will nor the sincerity of purpose to pursue real transformative and poverty alleviating economic reforms.

Worse still, government’s failure to tackle the ‘cabal’ which it claims at every instance is responsible for colossal fraud in oil importation, and its failure to revamp the refineries (which by the way if operating at installed capacity can provide both the real and ‘ghost’ local consumption figures), is proof of this.

It is worrying that in a country that is rated as a key exporter of crude oil on the one hand, while its citizens are noted as some of the poorest in the world on the other; government will even contemplate such a debilitating economic policy.”

It added: “Beginning from Monday the 9th of January, 2012, we shall mobilize citizens to begin an indefinite series of mass actions aimed to registering discontent over the suffering this policy has already begun to bring about.”

It condemned attempts by some state governments to ban protests arguing that freedom of assembly and to protest against unpopular government policies were constitutionally guaranteed rights of citizens.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/groups-mobilize-against-fuel-subsidy-removal/

iiiyyyk:
SE  will not waste their time protesting. subsidy or no subsidy we don't care, what we want from Naija is true federalism, so that we can use our God giving talents and creativity to fulfill our dream of being the most evenly developed and industrialize region in Africa.
most great nations of the world are not great because they have oil and gas.

  Brothers from SE please don't join the protest, if you do, tomorrow they will all betray u and again make you the  scapegoat

Two cannot work without agreement. in the Nigeria project we expect more than two to work without agreement, its not possible brothers. The Nigeria project is a failed project.
Politicians need more money to share.

thank you, please go and sleep. If you notice, I did not add SE in my discussion. reason being nairaland bigots would start attacking me.

I know there are still some sane Igbos out there devoid of bigotry and thus they would join the country. thank you.

kingoflag:
Is madness hereditory?  

pls just ignore all this bigots.

Jos: Two civil right groups, the United Action for Democracy (UAD), North Central Zone and Christian Foundation for Social Justice and Equity say they would mobilize citizens in the zone to embark on mass protests against the removal of oil subsidy as from Monday. The groups in a joint statement on Wednesday signed by Messrs Joseph Sangosanya and Jide Afolabi for the Christian foundation and UAD respectively, described the increase in the price of petrol as inhuman considering the hardship Nigerians were already going through.

“We consider this policy not only insensitive, ill thought out and absolutely unnecessary, but also provocative and inhumane. Given the fact that 80% of Nigerians live below what is considered the poverty line, and 90% live on less than two dollars a day, an increase of this magnitude or whatever magnitude for that matter will spell social and economic doom for the vast majority of Nigerians who are already overburdened by unemployment, poor infrastructure, high cost of living, unaffordable basic social services and dwindling livelihoods.

“As it stands, cost of transport, goods and other services have already tripled in all states of the North Central Zone and elsewhere. Transport fare from Jos to Abuja that used to be N1, 200, is now N2500. Some families who travelled out of the State for the festivities are already stranded as their budget can no longer take them back home”, it said.

The statement added that Nigerians were not convinced on government’s pledge of judicious use of the money saved from the subsidy removal adding, “going by previous similar promises by the same economic think tank (like the $1billion to be saved annually from Paris Club debt deal and channeled into critical infrastructure), it is clear that this government has neither the will nor the sincerity of purpose to pursue real transformative and poverty alleviating economic reforms.

Worse still, government’s failure to tackle the ‘cabal’ which it claims at every instance is responsible for colossal fraud in oil importation, and its failure to revamp the refineries (which by the way if operating at installed capacity can provide both the real and ‘ghost’ local consumption figures), is proof of this.

It is worrying that in a country that is rated as a key exporter of crude oil on the one hand, while its citizens are noted as some of the poorest in the world on the other; government will even contemplate such a debilitating economic policy.”

It added: “Beginning from Monday the 9th of January, 2012, we shall mobilize citizens to begin an indefinite series of mass actions aimed to registering discontent over the suffering this policy has already begun to bring about.”

It condemned attempts by some state governments to ban protests arguing that freedom of assembly and to protest against unpopular government policies were constitutionally guaranteed rights of citizens.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/groups-mobilize-against-fuel-subsidy-removal/

blink182:
Read word for word, this country is really a mess but I don't care about the suffering of Nigerians. The government is a reflection of its people. When Bakare said we were fools, all the bad words in the dictionary were used. Less than a year and its already reflecting. Once every 4 years we get the chance to do things right but have refused to use our logic instead we choose sentimentality to make critical decisions. We continue to dement ourselves with illusions of grandeur, of making a great leader out of a moro. n. Of believing the next person coming into office is the messiah.

well said

when will other N/D protest ?

Protesters attacked in kano by security forces. !!!!

protesters are being attacked by security in kano

Beaf:
^
You are intensely stup!d if you can equate the suggestion below to fertilizer subsidies:

No wonder I ignored your rant. Dude, you must have a plug of shiit in your head instead of a brain. You are not worth answering and I really hope you are only pretending to be so stup!d.

You see how silly you sound ?

You wrote " I will back subsidies on agriculture, Research and Development, education, health, manufacturing, local content etc."

and I wrote that Iweala has already removed subsidy on fertilizers because of the SAME reason as that of fuel.

so why would you support that of agriculture to be reintroduced and support that of fuel to be taken out ?

Is it because you just want to make GEJ look good and without thinking you wrote the most stu.pid thing on Nairaland

thus answer my question since u shot urself on the foot.

Let me remind you that before the subsidy of agriculture was removed, the necessary infrastructure was built aka the fertilizer industry was built to accommodate the removal of the agricultural subsidy

why was the same not implemented on fuel by building our refinery ?

Beaf:
You are a fool and a very despicable person.
Is boko haram overthrowing the system or blowing innocent women, children and babies to shreds? You think their blood is a revolution?

You are a fool and a very hateful thing. Why don't you go and officially join boko haram, afterall, they are your people?
Phucking cretin.

LOL .  you are a very disturbed man. Well needless to say, y[b]ou were part of the people among others saying Boko haram was to undermine GEJ presidency.[/b]

Look, at that time I agreed with you and started a STRONG campaign against Boko haram apart from the fact that they are killing innocent people both Muslims and Christians.

It is a common perception of southerners that boko haram was created to undermine GEJ. Thus The ACN spokes man called it a revolution.

Yes even in the north, we don't like anything that would disturb GEJ because he is our president whether we like it or not. We as a people have to throw our support to him. Now you come here trying to make GEJ a SS.SE president is really doing a GREAT disservice to him and a great support to boko haram because that is what they want.

Listen and listen good, the only bigot as far as Nigeria is concern is You and your fellow goons always trying to tribalise issues thus you have heard people under chains because of the fear of been labelled as a tribalist but it would end one day. One way or the other. Insha Allah

God bless Nigeria.

Beaf:
Have any of those parties id!otically claimed that boko haram is a revolution?

Cow.

clown

what is a revolution ?

A forcible overthrow of a government or social order for a new system

So is it a grammatical blunder or what ?

Is that not why Arewa has been begging Jonathan to arrest the situation in the NE before such occur ?

Do you think we don't know what Boko haram is ?

Beaf:
^
What in the list of your daft utterances, are you referring to?

You are clown

As usually you were MISINFORMING GULLIBLE NIGERIANS about the derivation of the funds recovered from subsidy.

And I posted what Iweala said on fertilizer subsidy during the channels debate.

And I asked, is it not obvious to close the border, arrest the thieves, build the necessary infrastructures before removing the subsidy.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=838107.msg9897015#msg9897015 date=1325715509]You have to be having a laugh

Was it not Iweala and co that said  they subsidies fertilizers for farmers but it was sold to other countries just like the case the fuel subsidy. On channels doing the fuel subsidy debate

You are a joke, so what you you said it shows you are very biased and bigoted

Fertilizers have been subsidised in the past and now removed just like fuel subsidy now. Has our agricultural sector been improved ?

IS IT NOT OBVIOUS THAT TO STOP THE EXPORTATION OF SUBSIDISED PRODUCTS TO OTHER COUNTRIES IS BY MAKING OUR BOARDERS TIGHTER[/quote]

Beaf:
You have always proven yourself to be a fool over and over. This is from the same article:

LOL what an ideeiot. really you have no brain at all

please where is PDP

Where is APGA

PPA

CPC

ANPP etc why are you talking of ACN. do you have sense at all ?

Beaf you have not answered the question

Beaf:
I am not surprised that ACN did not bother to react.
They have always been negatively vocal about boko haram, anyway. Bisi Akande even called it a "revolution."

How can a sane human being like your self i hope relate A POLITICAL PARTY TO AN GEOETHNIC ORGANISATION

I mean ACN to ACF, AFENIFERE, OPC, NIGER-DELTA GROUP ETC

How do you think ?

The writer is another person with alj harem's brain

That is the same thing I have been asking since !!!! but of course Pro-GEJ would not answer, rather they would like to tell me how a "minority" in there own words, is the president.

I must know the writer real life