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Eziachi:
He delivered them from bondage and slavery.

smh

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=686854.msg8488114#msg8488114 date=1307640523]I don't see how the good works of one man also covers the (perceived?) bad works of his family.

Is it the name Awolowo that is respected in the SW, or the actions of the man?

For me I respect the latter.[/quote]whats the action of tinubu then that has been beneficial

mods pls ban this poster, he a tribal slowpoke

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=408999

[quote author=EzeUche! link=topic=686854.msg8487587#msg8487587 date=1307635706]This is just the beginning. One man in the South-West cannot become powerful. Let us just hope there is not a crisis in the region, that will force other regions to get involved. Is this how an Odua Republic will look like?[/quote]don't be stu.pid

Eziachi:

You might come to regret your lovvy dovvy stance.
So before you start awarding them you nobel prize for tribal tolerance it might be a good idea to read their past postings on Ojukwu beyond their socalled 1967 issue.

all that is just used to shut some bigots up

why would i wish someone loved one death

i maintain, i am happy he is alive for his children

Desola:
alh harem,

BABE has done a marvelous job at translating my french to you.

On a final note as per Tinubu, I would let you know that his transgressions have not gone unnoticed but what the Yorubas are doing now is "e je ka le eyele lo na, ki a to bo a f'abo fadie"

ok

so when we go meet na

uche.nana@yaho.co.uk

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=686220.msg8483495#msg8483495 date=1307588976]No, you're the one that has reasons that's already been trampled.

If you have more  reason(s), run it by my way. Always here to help you, no problem.

The SW did not start any killing chaos over the speaker position they did not want to begin with, so trust me, the SW knows what she's doing. Just be  more patient and less frightful.[/quote]ok ileke idi, i would take ur words for it

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=686220.msg8483475#msg8483475 date=1307588217]Who is justifying anything. Abi you dey vex?

Why are you on Tinubu's ballz? Or are you just joining the soon-to-be-broken-down bandwagon going on on NL? Why is it that during and after the election is when you people decided to order a bandwagon and started hating on Tinubu? Did his show of politic strength scare you?

Where does his revenue go? Let me tell you something, you know that airline he recently started, it could feed almost 8000, even more, of those almijiris begging on the street.

The point of starting those companies is for the owner to make his own revenue and for ordinary citizens such as yourself to get a job.

We've agreed that Tinubu is a thief. Se o ti pari? Is that it?

You're even lucky he's not "saving" his money in Switzerland or Dubai like so many of the other thieves.[/quote]i no dey vex oooo my sister.

i hope SW know what they are doing, this tinubu madness is funny and i really want to see how it would play out

good luck SW

thank ileke idi for the explaination

_{(this people sha go get reason)}

[quote author=BABE! link=topic=686220.msg8483482#msg8483482 date=1307588485]I'll be glad to help, if you don't mind. If you mind, don't bother reading any further.


"No matter how the reign of a king is (good or bad), the/his people will not forget him for generations to come."
"Good name is better than riches." [/quote]thanks babe

Desola:
alh harem,

With regard to Tinubu, i'll leave you with this statement:

Yoruba never forgets. We say: "Oba to je, ti ilu toro, oruko o ni pare - eyi to je ti ilu daru na nko, oruko e o ni pare". The same Yoruba also say: "Oruko rere, o san ju wura ati fadaka lo"

Go and get a decoder o, I no fit help you.

how do u expect me to read that

what are u trying to say in that part (in english pls)

ChinenyeN:
The effect of centralization.

what do u mean

pls kindly explain in the context of the post

thanks

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=686220.msg8483424#msg8483424 date=1307586748]Who is denying he's a thief?

Which Nigerian politician is not a thief, by money and by words? Even your president is a bloody thief.

Which one of your northerners have not stolen? Why arent you on Yerima's balls like you are on Tinubu's? What scares you ppl so much Tinubu? Is it the political might or the Yoruba swagger?

Your politicians in the North are living large with their loot, while Aljaimiris flow in millions. Atleast Tinubu is investing with his loot.

If there's inner demons you all want to deal with, deal with them  in the vicinity of your own bedroom. Tinubu is not Jesus.[/quote]ileke-idi this has nothing to do with the north, it is SW for now, when it time for the north i would hear u

every politician is a theif and that is a known fact but you or anyone trying to justify him stealing just because he his creating the job (the jobs he did not create while in office or tell fashola to do) is a fraud

so u are here tell us that tinubu is creating jobs

where does the revenue go(his companies)

is it to tinubu's account

or to lagos state government

or may be like awo did to (egbe omo oduadua account) which was controled by afenefere and the yoruba nation not just awo

lets be honest with ourselves for once tinubu is not doing anything for any SW but himself and his family

why is he putting his family in every SW position, can that be justified as well

why is remi ruling can u justify that

why is sade ruling

remi's elder sister too

son- in law

2 of his cousins


, on and on

be reall ileke idi be real

OAM4J:
Thank you. This your handshake don dey dey reach elbow.

Am only letting this pass cos i like you, ordinarily I dont like someone kissing my girl.

OAM4J:
^^ Wetin concern you with the number of gyals? Are they complaining to you ni?

For your information I am a proper Naija man And I must to have 6 naija gayls, each from every region and one international one to make it 7- A perfect number.

Fight me for MissyB? sorry, you came too late. She just returned from a maternity leave and if you see the baby, I will be sick in the head to request for a DNA test.

OAM4J:
No let somebody put sand sand for our garri jare. You sef know say in my father's house there are many mansions.

The sky is soooo wide for birds to fly without any collision jor.

Wetin concern you for our family private mata? biko, go wait outside.

[quote author=Missy ★ B link=topic=451442.msg8480955#msg8480955 date=1307551417]You see your ashawo-ness?! You quoted Wendy twice instead of quoting me. 
You either drop the others officially or we say goodbye [s]but of course, you have to continue helping me in the kitchen[/s]    Missy hates sharing. 
Very clear, Wendy.      Please, that your rich, hot brother that is single. . .Ermm. . .hmm . . How is he? Is he still available? [/quote]

OAM4J:
Mistake nao. Its been corrected. Why i go dey look Wendy wey don dey give firearm hand, leg plus including a head?

Babe you must learn to share. There is enough of me to go around. Haven't I been taken care of you enough all these while? have lack anything? chill and enjoy me till forever jare. Babe, how about a week holiday/shopping Dubai-Paris-New York? lets just go on holiday and discuss all these over.ok

And what is the meaning of this?

OAM4J u are a very funny man

missy B and mama-gee have very lovely character

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=686220.msg8483399#msg8483399 date=1307586029]As for alj harem, you have a problem. Been viewing, no time to post. You need to stay consistent because it seems like you're one confused fellow. What's your grouse with Tinubu? Are you okay?[/quote]TINUBU is a theif the sooner u accept it the better, lets not sugar coat anything./.,., Listen to Obiagu1

how is my baby

Desola:
Ileke-Idi,

ma je n binu si e o. Desola is my name, not Dashola o,  

desola no be u we dey follow yan, this ur ako too much jor

come make we collabo

Obiagu1:
Yes ooo! There's an opening for the bashing.

You have to make those nasty tribalist feel sad once in while. Though they will pretend and try to spin their way out of it, inside them, it hurts.

to be honest i actually do agree with this, i mean all this days its been igbo, why not yoruba for a change

at least that why before they bash igbo, they would think on how it feels

but please respect katsmoto, he is a hourable character and so are you

Obiagu1:
Don't get it all wrong. It's a Yoruba bashing week.

wahala dey for this nl

obiagu1 businessman, u too

alex101:
This is no matter of tribalism I was just wondering if you and alj. harem are for real .

yeah I am for real, be positive i am not a bad person,

alex101:
Are you guys for real? Are guys sure about your "wishes" for the Ikemba, after blaming him for your "one-nigerian" woes?

lets just thank Allah he is ok, i mean at the end of the day, he has kids at home wishing for their father to come back home

yes i am happy ojukwu how we go share the 1.5bn jonathan gave u dont forget to give the church some of it after this Odell

Eko Ile:
Amebo rumormonger. Grown a/ss man peddling internet rumor.

You need to go secure your fish stall at oshodi market for easy rumor peddling with your fellow market women.

how much did tinubu pay u ?

are u beaf

OAM4J:
interesting. Most if not all your points an in force including number 1.

OAM4J to be honest we need 1 more mod on this section

ezeuche or andre uweh or maybe chineyeN

Eko Ile:
Another bold move,


God Bless Asiwaju Tinubu

God Bless the ACN.

lol

funny person really

Donlittle:
have been watching every1 post, and i was banned, why was i bnned anyways??
back to topic, @alj hareem aiite i will remove your name,
dont even knw wat to say to the topic anymore, cause it looks like, tribalism can never stop on NLand

thanks it can be stopped
fyz stranger/rhino has stopped tribalistic post so why can others

don't worry, it can be stopped so long as this conditions are meant by seun and the mods

1 mekun/nchara/adejoro etc is asked to stop or banned

2. any words like "it suxs to be igbo/yoruba/hausa etc" should warrant a strong warning if not ban

3. topics to spite the other group should not be allowed in the political section, it should be moved immediatly

4. we need andre uweh or an igbo mod, we need 3 mods i this section for equality

5. mods should try not to make people derail threads or talk about other groups while the topic is about urs

6 stop the blaming thing in the political section/

7. donlittle, always remember no matter what. yoruba/igbo.hausa/etc love each other,.,.,. nairaland is jsut a frictional website.

Obiagu1:
Good one.

[b]I've been wondering what's so juicy in being an opposition?
What are the benefits? [/b]I'll finally get the answer in maybe 2019.

*** Till Watching With Curiosity ***

very good question

RoadStar:
there are abolutely no benefits as per say.
Because there will always be traitors from within.

People who will want to takeover by gaining influence by cosing up with the goverment in power.
See Akintola, Bola Ige

And as u know GEJ never really liked Tinubu.

even the SW people don't like tinubu

fashola as well

Thank God am really happy man

he should just go rest with his family and take life easy

Ojukwu congrates may you life long ikemba 1

Freewilly:
None of those guys are as popular as you, You so new on niaraland and already the most popular member, there are so many threads started on nl just for you.

well i would take that as a compliment,

You know what alj harem would not come online for 2 weeks

if adejoro etc stop and not post any tribal crap then this might be alj harem's last post and even if he comes back online, no more inciting any ethnic thing and there will be peace on this forum.

deal.?

Freewilly:
I think tribalism will end on NL when Alj_harem finally finds a job. He is the biggest instigator on NL. It's hard to ignore him most of the time. But ones you start getting used to him you''ll find out his not really a bad guy.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=686072.msg8482895#msg8482895 date=1307573706]I was only reminding him on how to behave for his benefit. If you think its inappropriate then by all means, by the power invested in you, proceed.[/quote]You know what alj harem would not come online for 2 weeks

if adejoro etc stop and not post any tribal crap then this might be alj harem's last post and even if he come back online, no more inciting any ethnic thing

deal.?

Freewilly:
I think tribalism will end on NL when Alj_harem finally finds a job. He is the biggest instigator on NL. It's hard to ignore him most of the time. But ones you start getting used to him you''ll find out his not really a bad guy.

my wife

what about adejoro, aloy emeka etc

i need a job, do u have one for me

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=686072.msg8482895#msg8482895 date=1307573706]I was only reminding him on how to behave for his benefit. If you think its inappropriate then by all means, by the power invested in you, proceed.[/quote]reminding what excatly

dude i have deleted my post, what again

[quote author=High_Chief link=topic=686220.msg8482896#msg8482896 date=1307573731]Tinubu is getting it all wrong this time. How are we sure he is not even paid for all these favors he is doing the North cos dude is out to sell even Lagos for cowries.[/quote]i think tinubu needs to be arrested for all his loot, the north has not paid anyone

he has blind followers like eko ile and co

don't start blaming the north

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=686072.msg8482874#msg8482874 date=1307573435]^^^^^^

No. You shut it cos u really need to. I don't complain. You can rant all u want for all I care - it doesn't change anything. Just remember my words if u can - We all have prejudices but what separates the wise from the foolish is CONTROL.[/quote] funny person

^^^^^^^^^^^

dude what i say is not about hate because i do not hate, so shut it already

if so why ain't the yorubas complaining the way u do

In the current power sharing arrangement the Yoruba have been completely decimated. And yet Olusegun Obasanjo is the chairman of the PDP board of trustees. Chief Obasanjo has led the Yoruba into political wilderness in the power calculus in Nigeria. Yoruba Ronu – Alfred Oludayo
Behold the Top Federal Execo/Legislators:
President  & C-i-C – South South (Goodluck Jonathan, Bayelsa State) - 53 yrs old
Vice-President – North West (Namadi Sambo, Kaduna State) - 56 yrs old
Senate President – North Central (David Mark, Benue State) - 63 yrs old
Senate Deputy President – South Eeast (Ike Ekwerenmadu, Enugu State) - 48 yrs old
House Speaker – North West (Aminu Tambuwal, Sokoto State) - 45 yrs old
House Deputy Speaker – South East (Emeka Ihedioha, Imo State) - 46 yrs old
Two zones — South-West and North-East — are therefore missing in the country’s power equation. The South-West could not get the speakership while deputy speakeship eluded the North-East.
WARNING: I have always agreed with Odumegwu Ojukwu, the Ikemba, There is a Tripod on which Nigeria stands, any attempt to exclude one of the three is problematic, if not dangerous!

NIGERIANS REACT:

Femi Adeoya says: I understand South estW did not feature in the "first 4" leaders in Nigeria, and so what? What benefit did Obasanjo's 8-year rule bring to the average Yoruba man let alone for his kinsmen in Ogun State? What did Dimeji Bankole achieve in his 4 years as SW Speaker for the Yoruba man? If a Hausa man or Niger Delta will deliver results to the people of Nigeria, I go with it. Enough of these entire ethnic cards playing!

Yomi Okusanya: I am happy that this perceived 'marginalisation' is being done to a tribe big enough to take it on the chin unlike some other tribe we won't mention who really are cry babies.

FROM ERG to Alfred Oludayo:
Yours is a very intriguing take on the emanating political calculus. Well, the Yorubas' obstinacy and lack of willingness to share will eventually become their greatest undoing. Obasanjo pointed the right way but they chose to go the wrong way. It was a political miscalculation by some of the SW leaders who thought they could wrest power from the Egbesu by playing second-fiddle to the Hausa-Fulani oligarchy - it has backfired!
From the way things are panning out right now, the North will still chose to remain in the centre mainstream Nigerian politics even if Dr Jonathan decides to go for "third-term", they will be there with him.
Put on your seat-belt my brother, the ride is gonna be rough ahead. No amount of blackmail from the Lagos-Ibadan media axis will cut it this time around.
History they say repeats itself for we've been through this road before sometime in 1999-2000. I can foresee massive decamping from one political party to the mainstream before another round of political upheaval in 2015.
Accept my sympathy O!

FROM: Joe Igietseme
“””The commitments of all groups in the union must be sought for a commanding constitutional beliefs and cooperation.”””Unquote Waki Lawal
Whenever I read messages and contributions that reflect the above statement, I LAUGH to myself these days. You know why? These are the reasons I laugh:
1.    The problem with some of these Ethnic flag abusers is that they NEVER GROW UP beyond that allegorical High School trouble-maker, who would not agree that a game [card, draft, wrestling, chess etc] was over until he won!
2.    Since Nigerian Independence in 1960 and the introduction of the First Parliamentary Constitution with the first civilian Govt of Balewa/Zik, followed by the series of post-Independence Military Govts of Ironsi, Gowon, and Murtala/Obasanjo, then the Second civilian Govt of Shagari/Ekwueme, through the second wave of Military Govts of Buhari/Idiagbon, Babangida, Abacha, Abdulsalam Abubakar, to the third Republic Govt of de-militarized Obasanjo/Atiku, Yar’Adua and now Jonathan, NIGERIA HAS BEEN GOVERNED OR RULED BY NIGERIANS!!! We know these FACTS, even when some of us disingenuously call some of the leaders all sorts of names [puppets, stooges etc]. More IMPORTANTLY, these Nigerian leaders have come out all the Ethnic Groups in Nigeria! So where is the place and room for the notion that “all groups in the Union must sought for a commanding constitutional belief and cooperation”, as if these caterwauling Nigerians are the ONLY LEGITIMATE NIGERIANS?
3.    It appears that those Nigerians who are fixated on Nigerian re-negotiation and structural re-evaluation instead of emphasizing the much needed infrastructural and economic development to unite the nation under “common interest grids” are those Nigerians who [selfishly and greedily] believe that have not SECURED a place for themselves at any or some of the elections or Govts running Nigeria so far.
4.    In a more contemporaneous consideration of the antics of these Nigerian re-negotiators, it appears some of them think we are still in a pre-colonial ethnic domain dominated Nigeria. Nigeria is now a bona fide modern nation and all these ethnic jingoisms should be subordinated to the Nigerian interest wherever they conflict!
5.    For a way forward, henceforth, if anybody or group has an issue about the configuration and structure of Nigeria, there are 3 legitimately available options:
a.    Send a bill to the national assembly; lobby for your bill and allow the democratic process to decide the outcome.
b.    Seek election or work hard to elect leaders who will make Nigerian re-structuring a priority agenda in the national assembly; and allow the democratic process to decide the outcome.
c.    Leave Nigeria alone to be what she is since you are unlikely to have your way under the present conditions; but QUIT the caterwauling distractions because Nigeria needs to make progress and advance scientifically and technologically, and rapid build human and material capital in the body politic without worrying about where her borders will be tomorrow. Time is of the essence on this matter and anybody clamouring for Nigerian re-structuring at this age of the nation is causing an unneeded distraction from the IMPORTANT ISSUES.

From: Joe Attueyi
Nigeria is inexorably on a journey to redefine itself. I don't think anything will be able to stop it.
In just one election cycle we have buried zoning and godfatherism. Suddenly you don't need OBJ, Anenih, IBB, Ciroma etc to win political office. In fact their support seems to be a kiss of death.
I believe this loss of power by the "power clique" (and access to the commonwealth) will remove the last obstacles to Nigerians having a good faith conversation about how they want to relate to each other on a sustainable basis. If it does not happen before 2015, then Jonathan running for his second term will engineer it.
Don't be surprised if OBJ and Adamu Ciroma become the champions of Sovereign National Conference in the coming months

From: Dominic Ogbonna
Let us not forget that the Yorubas are not the only ones at #0. The Igbos as well.The Nupes as well. The Edos as well. The Igalas as well. The Ibibio as well. And so on and forth ,
Does it matter? Historically, people who have held these offices in recent times have held them, so it seems, on behalf of themselves, their wives, and their own children, not on behalf of my children or yours.
When it comes to looting the common-wealth, and when it comes to pampering themselves with ridiculous amounts of Jumbo pay, these legislators work exceeding well among themselves -irrespective of tribe, tongue, or even political party!
So really, with Bankole in the dock for squandering ₦10Bn, the ethnic conversation is an unproductive distraction. If your kinsman is the speaker, the value for you is at best ornamental, not substantial. If the progress of the nation is what is really at stake, what we really need to do is bury the ethnic paradigm, so that those who hold the Presidency, or the NASS Speakership, or the Senate Presidency, on behalf of 150 million people will have no cover for non-performance.
If we cannot do that, if all we can do is discuss the ethnicity of the speaker, or how the North needs to take power back, then Nigeria is obviously too complicated to work. Its geo-ethnic composition is an eternal distraction. Its politics will weigh it down forever, which is why we should find a peaceful way to break it down into more manageable and more productive nations ASAP.

FROM: Waki Lawal
Quote: “If we cannot do that, if all we can do is discuss the ethnicity of the speaker, or how the North needs to take power back, then Nigeria is obviously too complicated to work. Its geo-ethnic composition is an eternal distraction. Its politics will weigh it down forever, which is why we should find a peaceful way to break it down into more manageable and more productive nations ASAP. -  Dominic
From 1999 to 2009 or at the point Yar’Adua illness apparently rendered him incapacitated I was talking and thinking like you in term of one Nigeria as is now without condition, and that is because I was seeing the same things you are seeing now. But, when orderly constitutionally transition of power from incapacitated President Yar’Adua to Vice President Goodluck was treated with subjective insinuations I know Nigerian constitution is not worth more than manual of a gadget.
Now, that I read the above excerpts of yours, I know you will soon (probably towards 2015) join the group of SNC. This is not a process to fragment Nigeria but to make one Nigeria, one people, indivisible, to prevail. There is no short cut that will be good enough to get rid of the bumps on the road and transform it to a level space. Nigeria as is now will be strong if you can eliminate problem of power sharing, but that will never happen knowing the composition of narcissistic groups.
When I read what you and JUI are writing in the interest of one Nigeria, I always trace my way back and I guarantee that both of you are going to share the idea of SNC in the near future. The commitments of all groups in the union must be sought for a commanding constitutional beliefs and cooperation. The above quote from your piece below is a reflection of emerging frustrations.

From: dedekealex
What did the YORUBAs gain as No.1 and No.4? NOTHING. What will they lose as No.0? NOTHING! QED

From: Eric Ayoola
There has been much falsehood emanating from the Jonathan camp ever since the elections. And one of them is that the North, by Jonathan's election, has now been relegated from being power brokers and kingpins to mere bystanders in the power structure. Those of us who know that this is rubbish have been vindicated by the emergence of the numbers 3 and 4 citizens, in addition to the VP-Sambo, being of Northern extraction. In effect, no real change in Nigeria power structure contrary to the erroneous utterances of Jonathan supporters.
Now as per whether the Northern masses will benefit from a Northern VP, or Senate leader or Speaker that is another issue. Nigeria's history tells us that a public figure coming from your tribe does not in any way confer benefit to the tribe and not even to the nation anyway.
Thus my position is that what will deliver development is not that someone emanates from your tribe but their political platform combined with their personal make-up. As far as I am concerned 4 more years of the PDP, be they Ijaw, Hausa, Benue, Yoruba or Igbo will be no different from the preceding 13 years of the PDP. Simple as that.

http://elombah.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6906:yoruba-from-number-1-to-number-4-and-now-to-number-0-all-thanks-to-obasanjo&catid=36:pointblank&Itemid=83

Iysayah:
Much as I am, and i am sure others, are saddened by this despicable thirst to torture and kill NYSC members, i am mostly appalled at the way the cases ALL SEEM TO DIE OFF UNTIL ANOTHER MEMBER IS KILLED AGAIN.
I can guess , as often, what will be the end result of this, both in this forum and Nigeria as  soon as the nationalities of these corpers are  revealed:

1.  this thread immediately derails into Igbo vs Yoruba vs Hausa crap,

2. someone comes on calling Nigeria a failed state and claiming Biafra is the way out for the East ,

3. Another from his base in the UK/US bashes the eastern fo.ol and claims the 'Wise Yorubas' would be better off without Others,

4. The educated Northern brother sees vindication from this, accuses Nigeria of been unsafe to all, says Boko Haram is an illterate group like the NURTW in OSUN or wherever, and the kidnappers in the East,

5. the problem is forgotten, as topic turns into key-punching curses, swear words, abuses and the what nots,

6. Another news of GEJ promising 5M to families( if their children are found dead)

7. Everyone takes a swipe at GEJ, calling the clueless man names.



this is a deeper trouble than ethnic superiority trash. Are we confused as a nation or we just dont know where to start from?
but the battle could begin.

really sad

we are not 1 nation, tat is the reality