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walahi nigeria no go kill pesin

another get rich scam

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=684190.msg8469320#msg8469320 date=1307419255]My thing is, brother, this is politics, screw which ever region that does not favor yours. If they are flushed out of the N'assembly, that is their own business.Focus on your own. Treat as you are treated. You dont have to have a big heart every got-damn time.[/quote][quote author=EzeUche! link=topic=684190.msg8469329#msg8469329 date=1307419477]This is not about having a big heart. This is keeping the balance of power. The North has an unequal amount of power. Their needs to be equilibrium. I am not happy about positions that the Ndigbo have either. I am not saying this out of love for the South-West, I am saying this, because I dislike the North having so much power.[/quote]why are u guys saying north as if we wanted this at the first place

better go met gej, obj and ibb and don't forget sultan

Obiagu1:
@ alj Harem,

Is GEJ not from the East? Reread my post!  

how is gej from the east

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[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=684190.msg8469256#msg8469256 date=1307417897]Sorry boy-boy.  I know it hurts, but obviously they did make it clear they wanted it until the SE pitched camp with the north,lol. [/quote]

naaa even the north does not want it

really people are not bothered about this position

the current speaker can go to blazes for all i care, i mean at the end of the day he will not even feed the millions of our brothers on the street

NW is still in the shackles of PDP thanks to the sultan rubbish

the emir, sultan, shehu, obj, bankole, bode, ibori,, igeadion, tinubu, mark, sarakis, chime are all one and the same

all rubbish

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=684190.msg8469193#msg8469193 date=1307416359]Long story short, the SW lacked honor and GJ felled as a leader to promote fairness,which would have made his playing ground safe. The SW should have been selfless and allowed the SE take up the position of Speaker, not only because of their poor performance in the election,but also because with the emergence of a SS president, the position of Speakership was zone out of the SW. Instead, the SW tried to have their cake and eat it but this time it didn't work out for them. The used all types of blub against the Igbos such as: religion and regionalism. You speak of merit but merit would have been practiced if the SW had gave way to those who performed well. The Sen Pres would have been- NC(a balance region), Speakership- SE( a democratic region), and SGF( a grey region). This would have made this solid and workable for all regions and people.

Goodluck Jonathan instead of going with the folly of discrimination of the Igbos should have wielded his power in the direction of fairness,but, he didn't do that. Instead, he showed ungratefulness and tried to install Anyim as SGF quickly in order to kill the Igbos chances and validity of clamoring for the Speakership position. Stupidly the SE fell for it,but it is expected. GJ went through all of the trouble of trying to please OBJ, even after OBJ's people rejected him more than a couple times this year and did not want him. GJ insisted on helping OBJ install his man for Speakership. He should never mix friendship with politics which effects a whole country. This is what he failed to realize and he shot himself in the foot. One this is clear that no zoning formula was kept but Igbos were prevented from getting Speakership in the guise of keeping to the "currrent formula". They were simply rejected. If they were keeping to the old formula, which by the way expired due to the emergence of a SS president, then Ndigbo would not even be SGF because it was zoned to the NE. Why was this position given to Ndigbo if the zoning arrangement was not changed? Obviously positions were put in security and in favor of particular regions and the game of pacification was to played out.[/quote]

dude the SW made it clear they do not want the speakership position from day 1

chyz story story

kasiem:
All this hypocritic rants from my Yoruba brothers are just ruse to save themselves the ignominy of being treated risibly. Okay, u guys are claiming that the umpteen years of pdp's leadership in your zone gain u nothing without telling us what Ad as a regional party got for u guy. We must be pragmatic with the manner we showcase intellect alfresco, cos nigeria's education sector is not as bad as making people to be dumb. How can be claiming that u want jettison mainstream politics and yet u want Fashola to be president in future? Is that one minorstream politics? For those of u claiming that leadership positions doesn't do any good to the zone of the leader, it's either u myopic or unrealistic. Anyim as a leader got many ebonyians employed, akunyili with her clout brought nafdac outlet to her village agulu, soludo as cbn governor employed many igbos in cbn, chidoka as chairman of frcn filled the whole place with igbos, ihejirika as coas has attracted a barrack to ohafia, gej as presido has successfully placated his kinsmen with full implementation of the amnesty programme, the northerners has the best government roads. If we must rebuff zoning and tribalism in nigerias politics, then, we have to go back unitary system of government that was propagated by ironsi, with a constitution that will deter one tribe from lording others. How can u come out "after enjoying your own part of the zoning cake", and say zoning is dead? At whose expense? Who is fooling who?

i hope u know it was igbos that stopped zoning

so 2015 is merit we want

OAM4J:
You guys should stop all the insults on that thread. I have had to clean the thread so many times.

no insult i just had to report that thread to u

anataala:
@ murtala kai munafukine, Allah yawadan munafiki, kayi addua ka kai kamarshi shasha kawai, muten banza wanda bai  sancciwon kanshiba , mahasadi, to Allah yabashi kaje ka mutu, kafison bare bisa ga danuwanka, lalai ka tabata munafuki

guy what are u saying u make no sense

Ngodigha:
Ojukwu was insulted at first, or did you not read it?. Is it o.k to insult Ojukwu. Be honest and neutral when it comes to Igbo vs Yoruba imbroglio.

so he was insulted by saying awo defeated ojukwo

why is this poster not banned vicenzo

why would he be allowed to call Awolowo a rat or die like a poison rat

please mods ban this poster because war might be coming in the political section if not checked

there is nothing that annoys me most than someone insult Awo a great Nigerian

please mods do something

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-683792.64.html

poster

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=593116

murtalaa:
i am a northerner from sokoto, so why am i not celebrating tambuwal's victory? simple, these guys are not in politics to make a difference. They are there purely for selfish interest. tambuwal's victory is no victory for the north, certainly not for NW but for tambuwal and his family. so to all bigots who spews poison on the north, north has finally won, no 2,3,4 from the north and all sorts of rubbish should take a minute to digest this: tambuwal has been in the nat'l assembly since 2003 but has not benefitted his people in any way imaginable. while his family live in luxury his contituency people remains one of the hardest hit interms of poverty. is this the kind of man i should be happy for just because we share the same region, tribe or religion?

nice one

my northern brothers are waking up

OAM4J:
thanks

OAM4J:
Interesting! I like it.


@OP
Where did u get the news from?

it on the news

good to see how south betrayed sw

good 2015 we hail

Ekpoma1:
What do u mean? SW deserves to produce d speaker according to the arrangement so that no zone would be left out.

Lol, little or no PDP member are in the SW thanks to asiwaju company of nigeria

the only thing the SW should hope for Regional development and GEJ should make each region control its region

sw can not get speaker

they can not eat their cake and have it again

this yoruba think is too complicated

1 they fight for yoruba leader

2 they fight for national leader

Eko Ile:
One was convicted and sent to jail

One just got arrested for corruption and embezzlement

Tinubu is yet to be confronted with or arrested for anything under the laws of Nigeria

The difference is clear, but many like because of their silly bad bele and lack of understanding and ability to reason logically like an adult throws around ignorant accusations and baseless nonsense.

Tinubu-

Tinubu via NADECO fought, stake his life on the line and gave us democracy

Tinubu as the governor of Lagos state showed leadership and courage by not selling out under PDP OBJ pressure, he refused to back down and he protected the state of Lagos for the people of Lagos.

Lagos is not in the hands of the ever corrupt and incompetent PDP because of Tinubu

Lagos is the shinning example of great leadership because of Tinubu

His great leadership and sense of wisdom gave us the best and the most credible governor in Nigeria

What many Lagosians and Nigerians in general love about Lagos state in terms of infrastructure and policies was designed and put in place by Tunubu

Many people gripe about Tinubu owning Alpha Beta which is absolutely irrelevant considering the fact that the same people attributes the success of the state to it's ability to generate huge IGR.

The question now is, who set the stage for the huge IGR? Whose knowledge and wisdom is making it possible for Fashola to be able to do all the great things he's doing in Lagos because of the huge IGR?

Shouldn't many of these misguided people and their states be advocating and looking their own Alpha Beta to revolutionize their tax system and generate enough money to do what the Lagos state government is doing or at least something similar to help their people?

The Yoruba people suffered under lousy and shameful PDP leadership, many of our own disgraced the Yoruba people and set us back. Tinubu single-handedly fought the same evil people with his smarts and wisdom to wrestle Yoruba land from the hands of the hands of the PDP, we basically got rid of all the corrupt and evil forces in Yoruba land.

Tinubu gave us a news sense of pride and joy, he gave us a new beginning, a defined path and way forward.

Today, many in Nigeria are celebrating the arrest of Bankole. The EFCC was able to arrest Bankole because he was defeated in the last election, he lost his powerful seat, he lost his immunity, it all happened because of one man/Tinubu. By orchestrating the defeat of many of these PDP politicians in the SW, he made it easy for them to be arrested and prosecuted.

Good for Nigeria that we have a vibrant, credible and powerful opposition in Nigeria today and the leader of that opposition is Tinubu

This same opposition party/ACN is the only opposition party in Nigeria we are all depending on to keep the PDP in check

Trashing Tinubu is something you are free to do, but it doesn't mean you know anything about the man, it dosn't mean you know what you are trashing.

Your petty and misguided actions basically reflects your own ignorance, lack of depth, sense and good judgment.



I see you runjing all over the place calling the man a criminal, but since you asked me a question and I answered you question.

I need you to tell us what made him a criminal.

What crime/s was he arrested and convicted for?

What proof and evidence of wrong doing  do you have beyond hearsay and rumors?

ok thanks

^^^^^^

am loving this new monker

kudos, most of this people really do not know what they are saying

johnie:
What has 'Save the Masses and Children’s Heart' got to do with politics or culture?

Kobojunkie:
That is a very good question!

as usually probably paid by people like gbawe/eko ile or tinubu himself

i mean tinubu is not even loved in lagos state

Jarus:
I beg to disagree with this group. Tinubu IMO is not 'omoluabi' enough to be the Yoruba leader compared to past Yoruba leaders: Awolowo - Ajasin - Adesanya. Obasanjo was in a prime position to take this but he messed up his chance. I don't know any Yoruba leader that satisfies this statesmanly condition today.

But being an indisputable warrior, I think he is qualified for Aare Ona Kakanfo(Generalissimo) of Yorubaland, a position previously held by Akintola and Abiola(which has place in Yoruba tradition more than the former anyway).

I am highly disappointed in your comment

Eko Ile:
Long overdue.

what is the difference between bankole, tinubu and bode george

tell me and don't insult

The insistence of some Northern members of the House of Representatives to contest the seat of Speaker of the House of Representatives against

the zoning arrangement of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) has been traced to a plot by some influential Northern political leaders to appropriate and use it to checkmate President Goodluck Jonathan.

After the failure of the bid to stop Jonathan from contesting the 2011 election, some leaders of the North were said to have put in place a multi-party arrangement aimed at checkmating President Jonathan and possibly ensure the government is largely distracted from set goals.

The fear among such leaders it was gathered was to ensure that Jonathan does not come out with resounding achievements so as to put him in a position where he will use his person to determine the situation of the presidency in 2015.

Sources confirmed that the Northern leaders are not only desperate to have the presidency back in 2015, they also want to be in a situation where they will determine the candidate.

It was, therefore, thought that insistence on the speakership seat going to the North West, which already produced the Vice President could provide a leeway to “kill” the PDP and in its ashes another party could be supported by the Northern leaders to fly their flag.

“The thinking is that once the PDP destroys itself through the speakership issue, it will be the beginning of the end for the party because if Honourable Aminu Tambuwal wins, it will cause crisis for the president. And if he doesn’t win, there would not be a stable House of Representatives to back the aspirations of the president,” a source said.

It was gathered that the opposition parties would soon start projecting the PDP as a party that could not run its own affairs should the Tambuwal agitation sail through.

But the PDP and the presidency was said to have insisted on the choice of Alhaja Mulikat Adeola-Akande for the speakership position at the weekend. The party also insisted that the North East would produce the deputy speaker.

Tinubu playing hide and seek with PDP
Meanwhile, it was learnt at the weekend that former governor of Lagos State, Senator Bola Tinubu has been playing a beautiful bride’s game with the PDP and the presidency.

He was said to have assured President Jonathan of his support. He was also said to have met the contenders for the speaker seat, Hon. Mulikat and Hon. Muraina Ajibola but he has since changed his agenda and is now following the North, a source said.

Tinubu’s position was said to have been informed by a last minute realisation that the speaker could provide the rallying point for the PDP to challenge his leadership of the South West.

The Forces behind Tambuwal
It was gathered at the weekend that some forces in the Northern political establishment are behind the push by Hon. Tambuwal to upturn the zoning arrangement of the PDP and contest for the position of the speaker.

Sources said that their decision to upturn the zoning arrangement was to set the stage for a plot aimed at consistently checkmating President Goodluck Jonathan such that he could even be impeached at a later date.

It was gathered that between 2003 and 2007, when Tambuwal was the Leader of the All Nigeria Peoples Party(ANPP) in the House of Representatives, he had forged a good relationship with General Buhari, who was the ANPP presidential candidate in 2003 and 2007.

The Sokoto lawmaker is said to have received financial support from one North West governor and some other leaders, who provided him a chattered jet to transverse the six geo-political zones.

Said a source: “The sponsors of Tambuwal have vowed that they will take the battle against zoning to President Jonathan and that they will battle him on the floor of the House of Representatives and that if Tambuwal wins as Speaker, they plan to frustrate Mr. President and rake up financial impropriety and possibly use the House to call for President Jonathan’s impeachment.”

Tambuwal will get 250 votes -Arokodare
In another development, supporters of Aminu Tambuwal have started counting their chickens on the speakership race with a permutation that they had secured almost 250 members-elect who they believed would vote for Tambuwal to be speaker.

Tambuwal’s supporters are banking on the new house rules which approves an open-secret ballot for election of the new speaker as well as simple majority required for a candidate to emerge as speaker.

The arrowhead of the Tambuwal Campaign Organisation, Honourable Yemi Arokodare, in a chat told Sunday Tribune that Tambuwal only needed to secure just 180 votes from members to emerge as speaker, just as he beat his chest that the representative from Sokoto would poll not less than 240 votes from incoming representatives judging by the registered pledges of support in his favour.

Many members of the House of Representatives have been angry with the antics of the ruling party in showing open support to a female member, Honourable Mulikat Adeola Akande, contrary to their desire to elect a speaker of their own without undue interference from the presidency and the party.

The PDP had sent wrong signals to members of the House with the manner it dilly-dallied between the two speakership aspirants from Oyo State, Honourable Muraina and Mulikat, although it had initially zoned the position of speaker to the South West.

There had been copious news report that the national headquarters of PDP recently made a u-turn to present Mulikat as its choice more so on the ground that Muraina may not be pliable and hence easily manipulated as a speaker, given his independent mind.

Different caucuses of the PDP in the House had held several meetings on the speakership race and had concluded that the best way to retain the vibrancy of the House is to elect a speaker based on popular mandate and support by majority of members rather than allowing an imposed candidate to emerge as their leader.

The outgoing Deputy Whip of the House, Honourable Olufemi Gbajabiamila, had alluded to this fact in the valedictory speech he made, last Thursday, as he enjoined his colleagues to rally forces in ensuring that an imposed candidate would not emerge on the floor of the House.

Gbajabiamila had alluded to the vibrancy of the House as the making of the resolve by it to elect a speaker with a popular mandate, as he sited the cases of former Speaker Aminu Bello Masari and Honourable Dimeji Bankole as good examples of resolve by members to elect the speaker by their will power.

The election of the new speaker has been scheduled to hold next Monday at 10.00am, immediately after every member-elect had taken their oath of office.

On the other hand, the Senate has resolved to return its current president, David Bonaventure Mark as Senate President, just as all the strategic caucuses in the Senate had adopted him as their consensus candidate.

The former governor of Gombe State, Danjuma Goje, initially stood as a major challenge to David Mark, having secured the support of fellow former governors who won elections into the Senate, but decided to back out of the race last week by announcing a voluntary withdrawal.

http://tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/front-page-articles/4072-exposed-forces-behind-norths-push-for-speaker-reps-set-to-dare-jonathan-tinubus-acn-playing-along-with-north

North Will Vie For 2015 Presidency On Merit

ELDERS in the North, under the umbrella of the Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF) yesterday accused President Goodluck Jonathan of “killing the zoning and rotational presidency in the country,” following his assumption of office after the April 2011 presidential polls.

They agreed that, though Jonathan has pledged to spend a four- year term under his present administration, when the Presidency will be thrown open for contest in 2015, the North would not agitate for zoning because it has been killed.

National Publicity Secretary of ACF, Mr. Anthony Sani, said in an interview with The Guardian that it was unfortunate that zoning and rotational presidency, which has held the nation together under a pseudo federal structure, will no longer endure in the body polity of Nigeria, following Jonathan’s victory in the last presidential election.

“As far as I am concerned, zoning has been killed. The only thing we said is that if they are killing it, it simply means we have reached a level where we can take our peaceful coexistence for granted. We have reached a level where we can take our stability for granted.”

Sani, who stressed that “Jonathan killed zoning,” said: “Now, let us assume that there is no issue of marginalization; we want to believe that if zoning is killed, the factors that informed zoning no longer exist. That is supposed to be the case. But if they exist, then it was not supposed to be killed.”

“Some of our brothers in the National Assembly and those in the House of Representatives are saying that the PDP said zoning existed, but anybody could contest. If there is problem on zoning, it is the party that caused the confusion. We are happy that Jonathan said he would stay for only one term. The happiness is that he is not going to be bugged down by cronies, his activities will not be diverted by party supporters, he is more to impact on Nigeria and live a legacy.”

“So, the freedom Jonathan has now is unmatched, he can deliver on the promise of democracy and cast his name in stone. In 2015, there are people who will vie for the presidency, which is why I told you that the struggle for power would start all over again. We, as northerners are going to struggle in 2015 for our right just like any other ethnic group in the country. Jonathan has killed zoning. The country has killed zoning”.

On the speculation that the ACF is going back to its trenches against the newly inaugurated presidency of Jonathan, the ACF chief said: “No,

No, no; I don’t think so. One, the north have responsible people, responsible politicians, who know what government is all about. They know what leadership is all about. The north knows that after the elections, the people become one and not that we go to the trenches.”

“We have congratulated the President; Babangida has congratulated Jonathan; Atiku has done the same. This is time for governance, and not time for politics. This is not to suggest that when the time for politics comes, we will not seek our rights with courage. We will still go back to the trenches, but I don’t think we are in the trenches yet because this is no time for trenches. The law doesn’t say so and common decency doesn’t say so.

“This is time for governance and we will not deliberately pull Jonathan down simply because his faction won the election.”

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50265:jonathan-has-killed-zoning-says-acf&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

smh

[quote author=emeka_gh link=topic=681965.msg8449401#msg8449401 date=1307125872]You are right, but I rather we do both. It's doesn't hurt to export the excess.


@Topic,

Good development, I however yearn for the good old days when we topped the chart! Better days are coming back.
Government should support the cocoa farmers with incentives such as improved seed, sprays, health insurance policy,
etc. Anything that will revive interest in the second-biggest foreign exchange earner in the country.

Nice one![/quote]good

MPEROR:
That is what you get when you make an Alhaji with a PhD.d in islmic studies the Chief Engineer only in Naija. we can't even make a nail

that is silly

what Alhaji are u talking about

Calculia:
It is nice to see how non-tribal and fair minded the igbo's really are. Like i said before, the yoruba's are the bigest problem in the Nigerian Union because of their envy of the igbo's.

If a yoruba can reason like my brother 'Justcash', then we will not have any problem and Nigeria will move so smoothly, but the problem is the yoruba's are envious of other people's God given talent or blessings. They want to claim everything and never truly appreciating the gift of God they themselves are custodian to.

bros, i am not here to point fingers of blame on anyone

i know at least 80% of igbos HATE northerns and about 60% Hate yorubas like we all care

my advice of u is that since u boast of God given talent of the ndiigbo then i think they should use it in their state first of all

when we see what they can do, then the country would have no choice but to vote for development

this ur yoruba envy will not take u anywhere

can u pin point when the yorubas have done against igbo, because i have taught of everything and i see NOTHING wrong in what they are doing

please i want to see what they have done wrong against ndiigbo

alex101:
Bia Mazi Justcash, I can now see that all the fake pictures of Lagos posted by the clown eko ile ole has finally clogged your sense of reasoning?

In your flawed analyses, you think Fashola, a tax and spend governor is the best for your one-nigerian dungeon? Sometimes you nigerians never cease to amaze me. In terms of GENUINE development, please visit Akpabio's Akwa Ibom, or Chime's Enugu

Finally, I will like you to ponder over the "ilu" below, if you are true Igbo son:

O ye ndi iro ju ru' anaghi a' ju owe ya

Question for you and other would be EFULEFU(s); have you ever seen any non-Igbo (especially Yorubas/ewusa) on NL say they would support an Igbo for presidency? So why the political correctness/cosmopolitalism? Why searching for the living amongst the dead?

Sometimes, I've always wondered if another "civil war" would really help in puting things in proper perspective vis-a-vis steming the growing tide of "efulefuism" in Igboland of today. You guys really need to ask yourselves what status you want for the Igbo nation in your 'one-nigerian' dungeon that you love so much, for this is not about what you "pray" and wish for anymore, rather it is about the collective will of an entire people. Enough of this so called "republicanism" .

first of all u ewu, jason123 has said times without numbers that he would love to see an igbo president which he even said he would campaign for

secondly u amu onya ara, is it about igbo nation or nigeria as a whole

u ppl need to be careful on the way u reason

tribalism starts and stops on nairaland and should NEVER be taken to national development

if u keep reasoning like this, i just wonder how ppl like u would make it in life and even make it among friends and colleques

Jushcash is NOT an efulefu, Jushcash is currently in lagos state ad he can see with his own eyes

2015 whether it is fashola or not, if jonathan does crap, he will not win even if he rigs every single vote

if fashola contest under APGA or PPA etc and he has a clear agenda or plan to take theis country out of this madness, i wll vote for him even if my father/brother are contesting against him

as mazi Jushcash rightly said, we do not need a POLITIAN BUT A LEADER with clear cut concrete plans

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=681702.msg8444808#msg8444808 date=1307068197]Bullshit at its ripest.[/quote]

Calculia:
Awolowo is dead, so let him stay there, Quit with the bull s h i t already.

gidson12:
nonsense

keep hating, it would not take u anywhere