₦airaland Forum

mubaraqqq:
So according to you and sweet T , we should get rid of Islam and turn everyone to Christian cause it is the perfect religion. If we do this the world will be a better place.  Because you practice Christianity you are a saint and better than all the Muslims out there.  You are very righteous and we should follow you, cause you are the light and the way. By the way how many times have read the Korean, please tell me you have at least read the book and you know what you are talking about.

I didn't ask you to convert to Christianity. Christianity is not the only religion in this world but I understand why it gives you guys sleepless nights. Better life is all about Jesus babe.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371635.msg5187145#msg5187145 date=1261811398]the poverty levels include people from other parts of nigeria who live in the southwest.

campus and home prostitution cut across tribes. My reference to the brothels was a response to your claim about beggars being mainly Yoruba and Hausa.

would you consider a love-peddler working to pay  off a p.imp or madam, rich? They are still poor inasmuch as their earnings arent theirs.[/quote]Assuming your claim is true, so it means that igbos who migrate to the Sw for better economic opportunities do so out of poverty and the ones who remain in the south east are better off?. Wouldn't that render your initial argument useless?

mubaraqqq:
A Nigerian just tarnished our names and linked us with terrorism  and people are here discussing religion and tribalism.  Why do we expect respect from anybody else in the world, when we cannot even respect ourselves. We should be talking about the damage this has done to us.

This is the reason why this country will never progress, we are so doomed. Change your names and your nationality now, because there is no hope for Nigeria. This thread is  a perfect example of the reason why.

We don't deserve respect if we harbor and support terrorists. I suspect you are muslim, so preach it in your mosque and tell them to keep their faith to themselves. have you read Abuzola before and how he reasons about his religion?. What will stop that potential terrorist from doing this?. He has been absent for sometime now, are you sure he is not the guy in question?

Olabowale.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371635.msg5187129#msg5187129 date=1261811017]@ aloy emeka


^^ ask people from your area (by people from your area I dont mean Igboland)


they're aware of the statistics unless they work for the same boss as you.[/quote]You are very foolish. Where is my area, if I may ask?. You scumbag.

mubaraqqq:
A Nigerian citizen was accused of terrorism and the first thing you could write about was their religion, not about how it will affect us as Nigerians but his religion.

Because people are tired of muslims claiming their faith is peaceful yet they throw bombs around at kafirs.

Sweet T:
i respect that, but these are the same set of guys that has held Nigeria in bondage for decades. Remember Sanni Abacha, Mohammed Badamasi babangida, sheu abdul Shagari, Umaru Yar'adua. Babangida almost turned Nigeria to an islamic state. let's call a spade, a spade. Islamic fundamentalist turned Nigeria to what it is today. Their believes are outdated and their way of life does not fit any right thinking human beings.

Murtala Mohammed and finalized by Olusegun Obasanjo. IBB has no hand in it. Get your facts right.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371635.msg5187117#msg5187117 date=1261810790]You must have never travelled outside your village, or else you'd have seen many beggars who are clearly not Nigerians.


Most brothels in the southwest are staffed by non-indigenes.

If you dont know, I'm telling you now.[/quote]Is that what you discovered from your days as a harlot?. So, there are no Yoruba women who are prostitutes?. Where are these non indigenes from, if I may ask?

mubaraqqq:
shut the f up. you are so ignorant.  I hate when people just talk nonsense, like silly idiots that did not go to school. There is nothing wrong with any religion in this world. The problem is people, human beings that take the word of god and interpret it  to accomplish their agenda. they brainwash and use their followers. This happens in every religion, Christianity, Judaism, Islam is no exception.

Give us examples of recent bomb explosions carried by adherents of Judaism and Christianity?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371635.msg5187079#msg5187079 date=1261810194]since you're talking of beggars, check the brothels all over the southwest and find out the percentage of workers there employed as pimps, love-peddlers and armed robbers, and see where they come from.[/quote]You tell us since you are a brothel veteran. Where are they from because I have never been to a brothel before and wouldn't know?.

So? good for them.

vangogh:
I am not talking Yoruba here. Dangote, a Northerner is more ore less the largest employer in Lagos, and Nigeria wide.

It's Mike Adenuga plz.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371635.msg5187027#msg5187027 date=1261809394]read my modified post.


poverty levels being measured, will include the non-Yorubas resident in the southwest.

and as you pointed out- you have 100% Igbo economy in your area.

Yorubaland allows investment and opportunities regardless of tribe. Now, you want to consider that a weakness- that's your own cup of tea.[/quote]More pathetic arguement; When did Yoruba, hausa or igbo determine how one invests in any region in Nigeria?. Hausas have more investment in the south east than yorubas; igbos have 100x more investments in the north than yorubas,  shouldn't that also be an indication that yorubas are absorbed in themselves?.

El Rufai said Igbos bought 70% of properties in Abuja. Was it the igbos who prevented the yorubas from buying their own portion?

vangogh:
I will go over them at some point. However, it still won't change the facts on the ground.
Poverty level is very hard to measure in Nigeria where reliable data is hard to collect.

How is poverty level in Nigeria determined? With what data?
A simplistic and yet more realistic approach is net migration.  If we use the net migration approach, we can safely conclude that SW is the place to be; and like Tpia said
the North is the next best after SW if not for the civil unrest in that region.

Since you do not believe in stat, how did you determine that migration to the sw is highest in Nigeria?. Go to major Nigerian bank websites, click on the cities in question and check how many branches they have there. banks follow money and economy, you can easily estimate the amount of money flowing in such places.

olatayor:
From the report gathered from cnn.the bomber has a nigerian identity.but his name doesnt match to a regular nigerian name.i wonder whats goin on.

Nigerians answer farouk, Umar and Abdul.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371635.msg5187002#msg5187002 date=1261808798]yellow journalists are just that- yellow.

I dont base my own assessments on questionable NL reports posted by trolls and shady agents with agendas.[/quote]What do you base your assessments on? Tribalism?. Since you rejected UN stat, Nigerian stat, nairaland stat so, I am challenging you to provide proof of your assertion besides how you feel or what you think. Why is the poverty rate highest in the south west among Nigerian southern regions if they have more viable economy and more employment opportunities?. Why is the southwest the region with the highest alaye in Nigeria?.

vangogh:
There is nothing laughable about my position. You may simply disagree with my assertion by stating you position backed with numbers without name calling.
I assume that your reference to "buster" was all in good faith.

It was but I suspect you know nothing about Nigeria besides part of the southwest. Check the economic index of Nigeria states and you will realize how much that is being realized. If you don't trust the UN stats, try locating commercial banks in these cities and how many branches they operate per city. That will give you an idea of the economy of that particlar city.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371635.msg5186983#msg5186983 date=1261808407]@van gogh



its because there are more opportunities in the southwest, regardless what the trolls are saying.

that's the long and short of it.

people simply find it easier to live in the southwest.

the north is also a destination of choice and could have competed favorably with the southwest in this area, but for the frequent uprisings and unrest targetted at southerners.[/quote]Keep deluding yourself. Where are these SW opportunities besides lagos? Abeokuta, Akure, Ibadan, Ota etc?. Have you been to kano and Onitsha before?. Gosh, i can believe I am partaking in this nonsense. Why the high level of unemployment and poverty in the south west if these opportunities abound there?

Eeeeeyaaaa

yorke:
kai you hit d tail in d head, those yoruba touts are just too irritating, lack to work nd really to extort from hard working igbo people, just too annoying, all they  say is "give us our money"in their language, something it buffled me the money they are refering to.

Yes because there are no igbo 'give me your money' fellas.

No2Atheism:
- The sad thing is that a few educated Yoruba muslims are also starting to behave like there northern counterparts, meaning that at some point in the future: THERE IS BOUND TO BE RELIGIOUS PROBLEM IN YORUBA LAND.

I seriously doubt it. Southern Nigeria will be peaceful irrespective of Yoruba muslims. Yoruba muslims are never fanatics.

- Mohammed is a liar and peadophile . . .

I heard he was a peaceful man. Why call him a pedophile?

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vangogh:
It's a shame when we resort to insult to express a point.

I am not insulting buster. Your claim was as laughable as saying the crop of American economy lies on Arizona. If you have an idea of the economy of Onitsha and aba, you won't make such comment but i will forgive you because you know not.

No2Atheism:
- To make things worse , he is also being reported to be a Student in London . . . hence not only is he going to create problems for Nigerians in the US, he is obviously going to create problems for Nigerians in UK also . . .


- I think its high time we break-up this country . . . before this muslim thingy becomes a problem for even Southerners . . .

Now you are realizing it?. When Ojukwu suggested it 42 years ago, majority of you guys wanted one Nigeria. Let us stay together and die together after all Romeo died with Juliet.

vangogh:
Many of the stats in Nigeria are skewed and should not be used a sole reference for fact finding.
A more reliable index for economic trend Nigeria is net migration. People tend to follow opportunities.  South-West is still the preferred destination in Nigeria.

The South-West of Nigeria is still by a long margin the commercial hub of Nigeria with Lagos, Oyo, Ogun states leading the pack amongst the South-Western states.

Of the top-ten GDP states, three are from the south-west; none of which is oil or its derivative producing state; their economy is based solely on commercial activity.

Excluding the city of Lagos, the city of Ibadan has the second largest economy of any city in Nigeria even surpassing that of Kano that was once at par with it. While Ibadan may have seen its share of decay in the last decades, it still remains an economic power house in Nigeria.

Are you crazy?. Onitsha is the 2nd economic powerhouse of Nigeria followed by Kano and PH.

But this guy is also a US citizen, why is his Nigerian citizenship glaring?

Soldier go, soldier come.

olabowale:
emeka is hypocritical. at least for now he is a christian, a disbeliever. thats his choice. he will make his own final bed, which he must lie in. he can go to the fire if he does die as anything but a muslim. you too, toba.

Is a disbeliever not someone who believes in NOTHING?. I believe in Jesus my lord and saviour so, I am not a disbeliever.

ruhu:
U may be saying God forbid repeatedly,but look at d verses i've posted above though there are still many verses like those ones even more comprehensive than those ones above in d Quran but think about them,i know i can't influence your faith,it is God who influences,changes and guides 2 d right path but just think deeply with an objective mind about Islam and Christianity and also do some researches on d two also.If u think dt u ve been practicing one religion 4 d past 3 decades and it is working 4 u,it doesn't mean it is d right path,go and ask d ogun worshippers to stop worshipping ogun, they will tell u d same dt it is working 4 them because Allah had said that it is he who has designed d faith of other religions as they will see it as d right path but the opposite is d case.As concerning d Prophets,mind u,in Islam we don't believe dt some Prophets are inferior which is one of d reason why dis religion of Islam is a unique one among all religions,the only accepted religion by God as far as dis generation is concern.Remember to read on Islam and Christianity with an open mind without bias.

I wanted to read your response today with an open heart but whenever i remember what your brother, Abdul Farouk did today in Detroit in the name of your Allah, my mind tells me to shut off Islam completely. My mind remains open nevertheless but i am slowly running out of patience.

Omisore, Adelakun win Osun rerun elections
From Yinka Kolawole in Osogbo, 12.25.2009
Friday, December 25, 2009

The Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) yesterday declared Chief Iyiola Omisore of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) winner of Wednesday’s Osun East Senatorial rerun election in Osun State. Also, the INEC declared Adeoye Adelakun of the PDP winner in the Osogbo Constituency of the Osun State House of Assembly election. In the rerun election, Omisore polled 233,210 votes, his Progressive Peoples Alliance (PPA) counterpart polled 743 votes, Action Congress (AC) polled 5,026 votes and United Nigeria Peoples Party (UNPP) candidate polled 676 votes, while 6,604 votes were nullified.



The total number of registered voters in the constituency is 476,143. In the Osogbo constituency state House of Assembly election, Adelakun polled 21,824, AC, 583 votes, All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) 40 votes, Democratic Peoples Party (DPP) 15 votes, New Nigeria Peoples Party (NNPP) 33 votes, PPA 741, while 1,144 ballots were nullified.

The AC in the state had boycotted the rerun elections. The party in a statement by its state Secretary, Prince 'Gboyega Famodun, said the decision was borne out of “our firm conviction that INEC is acting in an illegal and irresponsible manner and it is clear that INEC is acting the script of the Peoples Democratic Party by holding a charade in the name of rerun elections in Osun State but with a clear mandate to do the biddings of the Peoples Democratic Party at all cost.

According to the AC, “the purported rerun elections were scheduled by INEC in clear disregard of the pending litigations instituted by our great party for judicial resolutions of germane issues relevant on the competence of INEC as presently constituted as well as failure by INEC to supply and make available current voters register to be used for the rerun elections.” The Court of Appeal, Ibadan Division, had October 29, 2009, nullified the election of Omisore, as Senator representing Osun East Senatorial District and ordered a rerun in the 10 local governments of the senatorial district within 60 days.

The local government are Atakumosa-West, Atakumosa East, Ilesa-East, Ilesa-West, Obokun, Oriade, Ife-South, Ife-East, Ife-Central, and Ife-North. The lower Election Petitions Tribunal which sat in the state had dismissed the petition of the AC candidate, Mr. Babajide Omoworare, and upheld the declaration of the INEC that returned Omisore as the lawful winner of the election. The AC candidate, dissatisfied with the tribunal’s verdict had filed an appeal at the higher court through his counsel, Folasade Aofolaju, alleging that Omisore was not duly elected as Senator.

Omoworare’s prayer was for the court to void Omisore’s election because he was not qualified at the time of the election having been impeached as the state deputy governor by the House of Assembly on December 13, 2002. Based on these allegations, he argued that he ought not to have been returned by the electoral body having failed to satisfy the requirements stipulated by the constitution. He went further that the election was vitiated by substantial non-compliance having been marred by violence, thuggery and intimidation; the electoral body erred by declaring him winner of the election.

In the verdict by the three-man panel of the Appeal Court led by Justice Clara Ogunbiyi, the court held that the lower tribunal erred by upholding Omisore's election having admitted that the election was marred by violence, thuggery and non-compliance with the Electoral Act 2006 in Ife Central, South and East. The three justices - Clara Ogunbiyi, Sidi Bage and Modupe Fasanmi - resolved the issue of non-qualification in favour of the 1st and 2nd respondents saying, only the court of law had the power to pronounce him guilty and not a Code of Conduct or a panel.

And that since no court of law pronounced him guilty of the offence, it could not be held against him. Concerning the issue of non-compliance, the court held that the lower tribunal erred in its conclusion. Justice Ogunbiyi said: “With the findings of the tribunal, it established that there were thuggery, violence and absence of signatures of officials; one wonders what could be a serious proof. They erred in their majority conclusion.”

http://odili.net/news/source/2009/dec/25/214.html

Stop please.

Epiphany:
That tongue comment was classic! 

But seriously, it is very difficult for people, young adults especially, to marry Nigerians when they find themselves so far away from Nigeria - esp when they have schooled outside the country. Your connection with and to nigerian networks is very limited.

It depends on the parents. I've seen kids born and bred in Siberia or New Zealand yet they married from home. Are you saying that if she was born and bred in Oman or Yemen, she will definitely marry Arabian?