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michlins:
Another one done with. We move to the next one

More Steel work to your collection so now boss try add safety kit and improve the brand, You can start with booth Rocklander range of 4500. safety harness belt the half one, for few workers later full one , helmet in case of Bolt from up Etc

later I will explain some things i see lot of improvement in the bracing from the past 2 job u updated you are getting big now and I will soon be calling you a steel fabricator Boss

diordaves:
Yes. I understand all these.

What you've described is at the conceptualization stage. Check, check and re-check by the relevant professionals. Again what you've described is for a big and maybe complex project of 12b. You will need the relevant professional to deliver every node and segment of the project. Shell does it. Cappa, Julius Beger, Bouygues etc all do it. You don't engage a builder to deliver a 12b project.

We are talking of a duplex, a four-flats, a bungalow. It is not advisable to over layer such 'small' projects with consultants here and there. We have this problem in the UK with the National Health Services (NHS) and Transport for London (TfL) and more recently the Covid-19 pandemic. Consultants, consultants and more consultants everywhere and collecting outrageous salaries with nothing to show for it. Parliamentary committees after parliamentary committee have documented that most of these consultants are poor value for money, duplicating and overlaying the process. I think engaging an almighty consultant for a 'simple' project like a duplex is not good value for money.

FACT its not a good value for money for simple project. A good builder will deliver well for this kind of job ..your argument is correct sir

@diordaves I understand from your point of view but it does not work like that in Engineering and construction.. But limited to kobokobo though.

You will not invest over 12bn in a project and think what are this professional doing here..

I state it clearly each of this checker will ensure you did not forget and question your basics of design because no two design are equal, big contractor for the fear of spoiling their name will redesign with their own consultant to check if everything I equally right and when they sense something you send calculations sheet and valid assumption of this..

Most foreign multinational will send your drawing to their parent company abroad consultant to check with their code and see how workable and where optimization may come in..

For new concept design this drawing will also be send to season construction engineer to see how workable the design drawing is..

Sir Engineering is diverse and some specialize solely on a niche while others knows all and will send to those that specialize to look deeper..

On issue of getting a good company that wont compromise such company will still ask for your consultant on site

n3xt:
An independent consultant kept a project I did here on hold for almost 4 months because we wanted to introduce supplemental columns.

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I’m sure you can relate with the pic below my Oga.

Lol the consultant at that moment is your client which you will fulfill all his obligation with test from approved place and those cubes sabi put person for trouble ..

diordaves:
There is also a case of too many cooks spoil the broth.

So where will it end? Should I also employ a checker to check the consultant? Should I also employ a checker to check the checker who checks the consultant? Where will the chain end? Who is the almighty; the final arbiter?

If you're an architect, you draw well. The bulk stops at your desk.

If you're a structural engineer, you structure well.

If you're an interior designer, you design well.

It is not good advice to over layer a project with too many unnecessary and overlapping processes. This will cause a delay. Each segment should take responsibility for their work and the client should hold responsible the respective segment for any poor outcome.

It is the client fault because the client didn't employ a marauding overseer. This is not on in the grand scheme of things. This is just spending money but not in the right places.

However, there is a place for a Project Manager whose duty it is to deliver the project.

Things don't really work that way , a structural drawing goes to ministry for approval which means another check from other Engineer sometimes internal check may omit some stuff or wont ask enough question from another point of view. If I design it goes through 6 checkers this drawing is a future guide which means this drawing have been conceptualize in paper before the construction team gets to work..

Now for site checker consultant

After this drawing contractor are found with it works in so so place we will do it like that here and they charge for same scope from the bill and it won't work like that..

The concrete grade they will mix for you with excuse of workability will definitely shock u .

Arrangements of reinforcement is not always right and they will cast and you the client will never know though they have used what was specified but in a wrong way..

Presently a PM and consultant on a project and I can tell you how the sub contactor don't like my presence much because dey feel I'm a time waster

I have also work on a project where all discipline have there consultant on site daily

Qs, mechanical , structural, Architect this exclude the contractor Team and they have their personal consultant to defend any suggestion or give reason why this must be that..

This is not for kobo kobo project ..give ur project to any Experience builder and visit regularly and have an understandable view things will work out fine

michlins:
Bua is the cement of choice at this part of Nigeria. Dangote is second choice. I haven't seen lafarge like that

Lafarge is the king of Ready Mix concrete And choice of most project on the island (lagos) particularly works goes smooth and faster due to most tower project in lagos cheap when u factor time value of money and quality of concrete produce under site control..

There wahala is they may treaten to discharge ur concrete for challenges on ur site due to accessibility or unforseen circumstances

fabulous85:
hello guys, Please Can you help with a solution to these cracks on my fence, they appear where I casted pillars with Iron rods so am surprised. I decided to chisel the cracks and fix wire mesh but it still cracked. is there a filler I can use? N.B The main building has no cracks
c.c Brabus, gbadexy, rotecch 77

You did not show exact position of the column , picture too close , no picture to show how the cracks look like before the repair..

Did u add any additional loads to be block after repair?

Did you do some ground works like interlocking etc,

Can you remember how deep that pillar is in relative to the top level?

Or just the reinforcement is place in same level at the topsoil boarded and cast..

It may be some settlement issues on the column part trying to settle fine since its not chain with the block wall it moves down a little and u notice the crack...

One of assumed solution if its what am thinking separate the strip of the block wall from the column insert a polystyrene in between and plaster back.

That's if you don't like the crack .but I will advise you to wait a little bit longer and study how progressive the crack will appear and the width measurements

michlins:
I never called him a scammer. I just warned him aforehand about what he's about to go through.

OK boss

michlins:
You joined Nairaland on the 3rd of April and all your post has been same. You choose the wrong thread sir. Kindly go elsewhere before these people will turn full FBI on your azz

He's yet to defraud anyone u can decide to read and move on y de market someone because you pass tru same ..

You can only tell him appropriately to open a thread and reduce spamming

hakeem4:
tell your engineer to design a masonry structure for you. i presume you mean a 2 storey building cause a one storey is a bungalow

I dont think that's a good option for Nigerian property owner they will renovate without assessment or consultation they may knock out most walls to convert to another purpose or Glass partition

Stop taking sienna I believe this same set operate around berger 6month ago ur explanation tally same way with the victim .

Never enter a car or sienna someone need to com3 down before u sit

sunitex:
I will like someone with a good idea to help me out on how to build a low cost and strong one storeys building in Asaba, I have already secured a land and I have done surveyor but I have not gotten engineer with good structural design and secondly I would like the house to be for renting

For idea get a good symmetrical drawing all wall must b3 aligned ground and upper lesser cantilever this will make u have more axial load and lesser moment to deal with..

Get a good site personnel that can interprets structural drawing to it maximum this is very important. Because the drawing will be optimized to it minimum.

Tell Your structural the truth the steel you intend buying local or foreign all this will make you have a strong and economical frame ..

Modified hope you won't later rent it our for commercial purpose tell the designer your future plan as well because construction cost will differ

BrabusNG:
Our Design Process

Let me share this with freshers who want to make a difference in their world.

It’s from Advanced Baba Lati. Feel free to adapt.

We add value to others every day.

The construction drawing is paid for differently from the approval . This bill looks fine to be sincere

I remember few pages back a user is requesting for professional Number then this came to my mind you won't be on this thread na.

Structural drawing for a Residential building max of 1 Floor will cost you around 450k-560k ..

Foundation drawing for Gantries , LPG etc will cost 1m above

Sewage system, pool, generator house around 350k note this sewage system will be d small type.

Consultant on your project for a month cost around 450k to regulate your contractor..

The fee above is a true value of how consultancy charge ..

Most client will also request for a site personnel which will monitor contractor. This guys are contractor nightmare at times..

my point is this place is meant for contractor where past job and what they can do brings d job .

Mykel51:
Ok sir, can I space columns at intervals of 3.5m as against 3m ?

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For the fence yes of course and the 3metre is not a rule but a Nigeria factor.
And construction methodology to me .

Reason below
The column provided is meant to stiffened the wall along that part for lateral force like wind not to act all through it length and destroy it over night. If there's column at 3.5m spacing it means u stiffened each bay and failure will be minimal if there is.

Does long fence drag themselves in stack and slide down

Mykel51:
Hello Engineers, I m currently working on foundation for a fenced estate at Lakwe. Fence is about 300m in length.

What type of foundation is recommended between an Inverted T beam or a Rectangular beam ?

An inverted T beam will be fine likewise a rectangular beam in absence of some investigation go for an inverted T..

When a lady on heel step on u. U will feel a pain and react to such (regular beam ) if she's on slippers and jump on u self u may tell her one more time baby , reason the load is spread on larger area

n3xt:
The bolded part though.

Anyway, I’m selling blocks at 200 naira on my project only.

Hmm there's something I like about your style, you invest now and later on make an offer to your client using your strategic of money spent now is more valuable than money spent later in future.

Its more easier to work with discount for your client because of this..

Presently I buy blocks at the rate of 300 for 9inches client is the one supplying this block himself ..This said block must not fall on someone leg its mini rock

qwertyboss:
this guy doesn't help at all!
he doesn't even reply me...
this is very bad...
atleast a decent reply will do

You may try LinkedIn . Try and include kano in your query . u will know ongoing project and the one approved try and research on the company and apply or go to the site with your CV, you may likely mssg Engineers project manager etc about your interest kindly write internship boldly on it else it may be difficult.

anochuko01:
Lol wetin dey mapoly?

Yabatech and ilaro never turn university of technology, na mapoly them wan give. It's because of it's a state poly sha.

They wan gve or its already approved and in jamb portal..this is what people keep saying about private university before they came to prove all past glory out and rank best among other's..

BUSHHUNTER:
Mapoly

Glorified and advanced secondary school.

Una don start . A school approved to be a university of technology due to their facilities and level of her teaching staff .. Always trying to soil other institutions in mud

Greatest Mapaite. But mapoly get enough computer centre now . TETFUND is really doing great THINGS in mapoly ,

twinskenny:
very tricky around atan the driller did it twice here before he got stable water... about 70m

Her neighbour twice ..

The funniest thing about bore hole a compound adjacent mine at berger have done close to 7times now the next compound 3 times I think soil formation of my street get as he be ..
no one want to try much again due to similar case of collapsing we use well ..

.when other tenant complain landlord will insist he can't provide bore hole and it will sink and they will reference compound with stable own and street .

lightdream:
Please can you confirm cost for Atan, precisely Ajibawo.

My sister place at ONSe Ajibawo 160k 6-7month now

hakeem4:
How many suspended floors?

What grade of concrete was used?

Two suspended floors foundation only Grade 30
others are grade 25

present stage of work

contd

excavation stage to ground slab stage took roughly a week.. adhesive was used with the concrete and foundation is strictly grade 30 concrete with 50mm cover

50mm blinding
ground slab of 200m

hakeem4:
I am here to learn

boss of all bosses great work you are doing on your youtube channel and i gve kudos to you on that still your number one fan any day anytime

pic 1)Space management is very important for this site due to non availability of space this rubbles needs to be cart away, to gve space for workers and avoid accident on site

pic 2) excavation commence


pic 4 = base on uncertainty of building materials more workers needs to be engage on same scope to move the job fast

i have this thread created from foundation to ground floor column on another web page but will likely re share and continue from both ends..

This building is a commercial build hence we have some of our structural member slightly robust than the average we see..
Building is place on a raft beam of 1.5 metres with 200mm footing to spread the load ..

n3xt:
Nice quote but I think you should look at the provision made for 12mm reinforcement.

At 3m interval, you’d require more than 15 columns on a 1800sqm land. 1 length of reinforcement will manage to give you 1 column.

You should also look at the amount set aside for iron bending and carpentary. I don’t see the OP spending anything less than 120k on both if he’s a bargain-hunter.

It’s like you omitted the cost of casting the almost 60 columns that the land will require.

The column is starting from d strip don't forget o .
Let assume 12m for reinforcements length
They bend about minimum of 300 inside the strip
300*4=1200mm

What he have left is 10800
10800/3 = 2700(2.7m)

Then he cast mass concrete off 300mm

Except he's dropping the rebar straight he can achieve 4 or reduce fence height ..

There r recommendations for that though ve stated one abve

n3xt:
For all it’s worth, will you consider putting a water tank on the roof of your penthouse?

What are the odds? Why will you not do it?

A water tank above a pent floor well it depends on what floor the pent is.. when pumping water there's this action that goes on with building which the user might passive (a form of vibration) this vibration effect detection is not same for everyone if person A does nt really feel comfortable with it person B may not feel this action at all so it depends on how sensitive your client is to vibration effect.. Though there r many damping options available to cushion this effect ..