₦airaland Forum

ArewaNorth:
What are u trying to justify?
US has always been cruel, oil and gold thieves and have destroyed many countries in the their agenda of forcing democracy which doesn't conform the culture and traditions of many Nations.
US assassinated more than 17 Presidents in history. You are so brainwashed by US media to believe that democracy is the best form of Govt. Soudia Arabians, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait are enjoying good governance, better social amenities, luxurious life with dictators than all democracy practicing Nations in the world.
How do u expect us to see worst than the list of disastrous destruction that lead to the deaths of millions of people by US, they caused more deaths after WW2 than the deaths of both WW1 and WW2 combined. Check the list of their atrocities below:

Why did they invade?you propagandist always miss that part

CoronaVirusPro:
That’s fiction.

You forgot the world is a global village. You just need to be cut-off and that’s all. Wishing 24 hours, the economy instantly starts nose diving and investors repatriating funds

It cannot give birth to anything. The West have that edge that will last till Christ comes

And imagine the country countries that even want to birth new ways. China, Iran, Pakistan, Belarus, Russia and some other hungry nations.

Don’t make me laugh please. The only cooperation it can birth is poverty.

Ask maasoap if China has taken North Korea out of poverty ask him if Russia has taken Belarus out of poverty.

Countries that align with the west in Asia such as Japan and South Korea can speak for themselves.

Who the west has blessed no man can curse as long as the east continues to harbour dictators and reject democracy they will remain where they are God forbid I live in a world controlled by China and Russia or Iran and Pakistan.

uniquetechng:
That was what people said about Cuba but when Fidel Castro opened the border in 1980 250k Cubans emigrated to the US the very first day. Over the years Taiwanese has been protesting on the streets against China's invasion that should tell you that they dont want to be part of China mainland.

Teach them because they have a reversed version of history keep enlightening them

Stevenson1:
I know your lecture won't pass US invasion in Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, yemen and co bit please carry on ok.
And don't forget to tell us why the US invaded them.

They are so quick to forget 9/11.

America was sitting on their own when terrorist came to invade same way America was sitting on their own when Germany came to look for trouble during world war 1.

Stevenson1:
So, in your opinion, North Korea should invade South Korea cos they once share heritage even though their ideas are different??
China should invade Taiwan even though the two have been separated since 1945 and now share different ideas and different practice of government??
So, china should invade Hong Kong even though their own system of government is different??
Lol
I can't wait to see the calamity you guys supports. I just wish united states' should just say Bleep it! Let everyone do as they wish. Lol. You will wish you never get to be alive in this generation.
Dictators who treats their country people like shits are the ass you are licking and clamouring to be the world power??

Ignore dem their matter don tire me.

God forbid I live in a world were western democracy is not the norm.
I reject every form of authoritarianism from the east spearheaded by China and Russia

Saintmary:
Did you know that black women are the least paid in the world?



For the same work, a white man gets the best pay, followed by the white woman, then the black man, then the black woman who is least paid.



We African women have a long way to go and we need to buckle up. Put away all these petty nonsense and work harder for the future of our daughters.


Not only to make money for them, but to raise their chances when they start facing this big bad cold world.

I know and when women keep advocating and talking about these things they tell us that we should stop and that there is equality no need for affirmative action and other policies aimed at enabling women to have a level playing field.

Acidosis:
LOL. You guys just love unnecessary war. Why enforce vasectomy on me when I can afford a condom? What are your motives? Be honest with yourself.

Nobody is enforcing anything on you learn to understand and stop being paranoid same you automatically assumed that people have no excuse for unwanted pregnancies same you is reading meanings to vasectomies what powers do I have to enforce such(even if I had such powers I would not because I am democrat and not an autocrat) but rather sensitise and raise awareness on it.

Saintmary:
Exactly, I must hold myself to the same standards I'm expecting of others.

Yes oo I hate hypocrisy if cannot even criticise someone because for wetin I dey guilty of shame go dey catch me

It is good to put your money where your mouth is.

Acidosis:
What if I tell you that I have never seen a female condom? I have no idea what a female condom looks like. That shows that men have been playing their part for years. Many women out there don't even know their safe period.

Since they have been playing their part for years they should have no problem being open to vasectomy na two way thing after all

ArchiLimited:
Are you guys sane atall on this website? Or you just open your mouth and spew? Advice the president of a country to lay down and yield his country to a foreign invader without fight? Leave Russia and Ukraine for a second, if a strong man sends you a letter that he's coming to take over your house, will you tell your wife and kids to relax that you will surrender your house to him to do whatever he wants? Will you??! Just crazy comments on this site. If you have no idea what to say, it's better not saying anything atall

They are Russian paid trolls ignore them

What we are seeing for ourselves on TV.

Some Russian paid trolls on nairaland say it is propaganda if only Nigerians will keep this same energy should this be us as well.

Saintmary:
Your point shifts my focus to the future.



Now, how many women, married or not, will teach their sons to go for vasectomy when it's needed?


Food for thought.

Very true anyway it starts from all us when the time comes I will start the conversation with mine

Saintmary:
Much as male vasectomy will go a long way to help reduce the pressure on women, I think we should clean up our house first.


Women should support women first

Absolutely

Acidosis:
Well, I think science has provided a number of options for safe sex so anyone looking for more is just being careless or deluded. Condoms are by far the cheapest/safest form of contraceptives out there (asides from the natural withdrawal methods). There is really no excuse for unwanted pregnancies in this age and time.

As per the issue of complications, well we share the same view.

You do know that the safe sex options are not a 100% and you do know that in Nigeria many couples don't have access to these safe methods in the abroad where science has done all the abortions still happen but family planning has helped reduce unwanted pregnanciesss but that does not mean it has eradicated it.

Another thing is that unwanted pregnancies happen so it should not really be your business to tell people what to do

Acidosis:
When your son agrees to a vasectomy, I will consider.

You are not serious, it is not a competition it is what a same responsible man will do vasectomies are reversible and it is a man's little contribution to his own healthy family life when he assists his wife and not dump everything on her hopefully if your wife chooses to have an abortion you would not quarrel or object to it since you failed to play your own part in preventing it.

When my sons come of age they will be sane enough to do the right thing.

Saintmary:
I'm glad you are of the same opinion.



I also think we should increase the volume to the right quarters.

Women should band together, not to tear each other down. We're not helping our situation.

Yes because when women support one another incredible things happen .

Acidosis:
The only problem here is that many of you won't start this sermon in your households, with your sons and brothers.

Actually I have and you can as well join the crusade

Saintmary:
You don't seem to understand my posts.



I expect all females of reproductive age, regardless of marital status to be attended to, equally.


Woman is woman, uterus is uterus, fagayina is fagayina.




Double standards means you are expecting different things of the same set of people who you separate into different groups in your mind.

I hope you understand better.

I understood your point what I meant was that before seeing your post I pointed out to coco candy that single women don't find it easy to access family planning options like married women do and when I saw your comment I realised that someone(you) had already pointed that out.

I only concurred with your submission.

Acidosis:
Abortion with single women is not the same as abortion among married women. When a married woman considers abortion, she's mostly gotten all the kids. You can't say the same for single women who are at risk of unwanted or undesired complications.

A complicated or bad womb to a mother of 4 is not a bad news.

How is it different when both pregnancies are undesired or do we want to kid ourselves that unmarried people don't have sex instead of looking for only married women for family planning while not make it for every woman(man) that desires it without judging them for sinning differently? That will even reduce the rate of unwanted pregnancies.

The risk and undesired complications is as a result of the fact that abortion in Nigeria is illegal so women cannot do it safely at hospitals they do it through the back door and get subjected to quacks thereby resulting to undesired complications for them.
The one's that do it abroad where it is legal how many of them did you hear of that had undesired complications?

Saintmary:
It's easy to judge women, of course they are soft targets, there is no consequence for using women as butts of ignorant jokes.


But to my knowledge, sexual intercourse is done by two individuals.

It is completely absurd to hang only one party to dry and the most annoying part is that this is done by women mostly, men only treat women as badly as women treat women.




Sure, you're perfect, you've never sinned, you gave your virginity to your husband on your matrimonial bed.


Perfect, quintessential virtuous woman.


We hail you.


That is why you can't approach your fellow women when trouble comes, when you've tangled up yourself in your web of self righteousness, isn't your life so lonely?


Wee you just keep away?

You know what, I think we should be advocating for male vasectomies because men can impregnate as many women at a go yet they don't get held to a standard in playing their own part in preventing unwanted pregnancies which could lead to abortions they get a pass while women get to bear the brunt.

If men were open to vasectomies believe me women would not be having unwanted pregnancies that may lead to abortions.

In countries where abortions are legal because of easy access to family planning and even the abortion services the rate of abortions are much lower but in countries where it is not legal it doesn't mean that it does not happen o they just go through the back door alley to get abortions which could be life threatening for them

Saintmary:
In Ondo State, unmarried women were excluded from the free family planning initiative provided by Dr Mimiko's administration around 2016. The discrimination was perpetrated by Nurses in Primary Health Centers. You must come with your husband.


I wonder if women's uteruses are only activated by wedding rings.

What I just pointed out to cococandy. The double standard nor tire you?

cococandy:
Married or single it’s the same. Marriage doesn’t make one woman better than another or more worthy of reproductive rights & healthcare than another.

I’m saying this because in my experience, people find it easier to judge single women for having abortions but will excuse it if it’s a married woman.

Don't mind them same way Nigerians ignorantly or hypocritically assume that a single woman doesn't have sex so such women find it hard to go for family planning without sinners judging them for sinning differently.

bepositive11:
You don't know who that girl really is, keep deceiving yourself. In fact, even she doesn't really know herself yet

Exactly it is very wicked for someone to intentionally find someone not exposed not because they want to help enlighten them but because they want to control them and use to do mumu.

Kobojunkie:
And do you plan to live out your married life in the village with this gal of yours, without her getting a smartphone?

I can't believe there is still a gullible man out there who still believes he can program a woman to his specs.

The OP is a dreamer time will tell him.

He is looking for a mumu he will get sense pro max very soon.

See why I intentionally tell ladies to find men with sense and not men like the OP looking for women they can control

Kooldon:
True, but don't be surprised if you notice her sudden change in attitude as she experience city life We will all be here to advice you when that time arises

Nonsense thread.

Akpan107:
Simply because a baby is not viable at week 24 doesn't mean the baby should be killed.

At week 5 the baby's blood vessels begin to form and pump blood.

At week 6 the baby heart is already beating.

We should never take their lives.

They are human already.

They are not, stop arguing illogically even in the womb natural abortions happen you cannot call something human when you cannot do a census for it or apply basic things humans get to a foetus in the womb that may or may not survive.

Is the foetus breathing like we do in the womb?yes or no?
Why isn't it called a foetus already since it is human and has not been born.Unless you believe that life starts at conception which is not even scientifically true I don't know what to say to you.

Nobody is forcing you to have abortions so stop making decisions for women who want to have it

ecolime:
Trump recently said Putin was beating Biden's head like a drum. It's the obvious truth.

Now it's the turn of China to make a fool out of sleepy Joe. China will invade Taiwan and Hong-Kong and both US/UK will do nada other than sanctioning.

Iran has started pushing for a deal. They will conclude on an impossible deal and then use it as an opportunity to start another round of nuclear enrichment.

North Korea sef still dey observe and go soon find the best way to beat Biden's head.

We said it then, they called us Trump minions. This is what you get when you vote in ineffective oldies into offices. Nigeria is experiencing it with Buhari and some foolish fools also want to package Tinubu for us. God forbid.

Keep quiet abeg you don't know anything even an adviser to Trump said that if Trump had been re-elected he would pull America out of NATO.
You are a Trump minion Trump that you love to idolise is also an ineffective oldie because Biden is just three years older than he is.

To tell how Ignorant you are you don't even know that sanctions are mostly economic and can be an act of war to weaken a nation stick to romance section Trump minion

raumdeuter:
A party whose ex president is seen frolicking with minors should not be the one pointing at others for sexual misconduct
Graham voted to impeach Clinton for perjury which is lying under oath. everyone know this
Despite being impeached despite the hundreds of women who accused Clinton, He still will go after underaged girls

Democrats if they have any shame shouldnt talk about sexual crimes of any other party

Lol, party of family values your hypocrisy is glaring and learn to stop the whataboutism nobody was talking about Bill Clinton just to cover up for Trump, Gaetz, Van Taylor, Don Shooter, Brandon Hixon,Nick Sauer and oh Tim Murphy the one who was sponsoring an anti-abortion bill but was caught telling his mistress to get an abortion the hypocrisy of the party of family values.
Stop making excuses nobody is fighting you here or defending Clinton you are just being paranoid, these are disgusting acts done by these men and you should call it out and not take sides nobody on this thread did whataboutism to defend Cuomo pivoting to republicans do it and get away with it so why shouldn't democrats the way you usually do in order to defend republiQans Cuomo and Al-Franken resigned but Trump and Gaetz are part of the open big tent of the GQP just look at the way you are drinking panadol to defend the GQP and it's sexual offenders what a shame.

raumdeuter:
Clinton has committed more sexual crimes than any politician in American history. He remains the only president who was impeached on issues relating to sexual misconduct in white house

Clinton where the entire presidential debate hall was half filled with women who he had sex with

In recently unsealed court documents involving dead child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, a woman named Virginia Giuffre, who publicly accused Epstein of sex trafficking, said that she once saw former Democratic President Bill Clinton on Epstein's island with "two young girls" from New York.

Oh my goodness when will you learn to stop conflating issues in the name of whataboutism, who was arguing about Clinton with you did you see me defending him like you are making excuses for RepubliQans by bringing in exaggerating things will you take several seats and stop defending the indefensible by saying oh they did it first so it is okay if I did it, that is not a defence anywhere

If your party even cared about issues of sexual misconduct which they impeached Clinton for Trump would not have been the nominee if RepubliQans had an ounce of shame the same ones like Lindsey Graham who voted to impeach Clinton would not have cowered to Trump and supported him when he became the nominee and all other offences agent orange committed.It only just exposes republiQan hypocrisy.

Do better

raumdeuter:
There is a difference between being friends with Epstein and being seen on Epsteins Island with underage girls like Clinton was

If you can point to a Republican president caught with underage girls you might have a point but since you claim you don't care about family values then Clinton shouldn't be committing perjury for what is expected of a Democrat

And you think someone cannot infer that your being friends with someone cannot also mean that one has first hand knowledge about what the person does right? or being an accessory to the fact even if you were not caught in the act Trump flew with him as well
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/30/us/ghislaine-maxwell-pilot/index.html

I will not descend so low to talk about whataboutism with you to defend Clinton whom I have no respect for.

But I can point a republiQan president with over 20 allegations of sexual assault and the one on caught hot mic talking about "grabbing them by the pxxxxxx"
The report feedthenation reported was about a congressman you went ahead to talk about Bill Clinton you are talking about having a point but failed to realise that Bill Clinton and Van Taylor's situation was different with no need bringing it up but because I brought Trump into it you are trying to tell me that they are not the same or proportional can you see how smart you how, you did not remember this when you brought in Clinton to the discussion abi?

I did not say I don't care about family values I only pointed out the hypocrisy of today's republiQan party that claims to be one of family values which democrats don't claim to be yet worship a man who cheated on all three wives and grabbing them by the pee with allegations of sexual assaults against him and some dumb evangelicals say he was sent by God even Clinton is not regarded in the democratic party today compared to your god Trump who republiQans still cower to so much yet claim to be the party of family values.If your family of family values had shame Trump would never have been the nominee

I will not go on whataboutism with you because it just sounds silly and stop seeing silly things as us against them it doesn't help your cause it just means that as long as they do it also it is not a crime and your whataboutism comparison does not always make sense.

KazikageSama:

I love Nigeria sha, people just wake up one morning, make a cup of tea and start drawing up imaginary stats in their minds. I do not need any extensive research to know that this stats is wrong on multiple levels. People just want to quote stats when it suits their narratives but they do not want to carry out the studies and research work.

Naso one body said "90% of farmers in Africa are women" until we asked for the source of stats and everyone went silent.
SHIOR.

Lol