₦airaland Forum

MDsambo:
1 Billion Dollars when converted to Naira is 350 Billion Naira, so he is worth more than N350,000,000,000. Or is he a Naira Billionaire, Mr Linus?

We use naira in Nigeria so we always mean naira billionaire

EgunMogaji:
It'll be hard for someone living in Nigeria to imagine the trauma.

In Nigeria you simply bribe the police and bribe the judge. The end.

Nigerian. Lawyer. Those two words are dangerous by themselves. When you combine them, watch out! THIEF

Dexpro:
It is finished! If security operatives are apprehensive, what then is the fate of civilians

It finished a long time ago. You just realising it?!

Liturgy:
Evans and his stories again

Yet you clicked on it. Hypocrite. I bet you'll be the first to buy the Nollywood movie

ajalawole:
Which yeye security agency do we have in this country self . Cant u people give the guy amnesty and employment him as undercover, then sold off all his asset to refund those he kidnapped. Better still hang him to death

You sounded like a fool till your last sentence

whitebeard:
no they should just imprison him, like for 20 yes then free him, although ur ideas are also good.

Life imprisonment, nothing less

THIEVES, everyone of them

deepwater:
I Love the igbo people for the ability to sense how to make money.
They knew that part of the country was attacked and reconstruction would follow, they move in to start recon works to make cool cash.
Fortune truly favors the brave......


Saw on NTA the other day, one igbo man that sells donkey in sokoto, as in donkey!





I love their hustling spirit jor

I like your spirit. Go to the east. You see many Yoruba taylors. The electrical work for our new house there is being done by a yoruba electrician we brought from Lagos - because he's very good and his price very reasonable. One Nigeria is stronger and more fun. Personally, I'd find Biafra boring.

adepeter26:
You fail to grasp what evolution is all about.
I believe Google is there for you cos this forum isn't a tutor website or evolution class.

You're confused bro....
Check your opening post and see how you're contradicting yourself.

LOL. But you disagree with big bang. Funny enough me can't write too much jàre.

Why haven't we heard of prayers of people confirmed be infected with HIV through BLOTTING TECHNIQUES, PCR and ELISA become negative from positive?
Why do we even have to pray in the first instance?

Same way I don't have any religion. I'm happy ND comfortable

In a million years animals will still not be able to talk like a 4 year old and will still not be able to write like a kindergartener. Humans are simply radically different. Same way living things are radically different from nonliving things.

I never contradicted myself. Religion starts with the existence of a timeless intelligent being, and that can answer those questions. Big bang from NOTHING makes no sense. Be honest with yourself.

What was your other question again?

adepeter26:
Remember you said everything must have a creator and since universe is so complex, God created it.
For god to have the universe, something more complex than god must have created Him which is a Dog.

Why terminate / breakout the loop at God? I believe you know what LOOP(in programming) is

And yet you disagree with bigbang? What's the difference between big bang and what you just stated above?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/A_man_Laughing.gif

You wanna tell me humans 200years ago are still same humans in 2017?
Ain't we evolving technologically?
Ain't we evolving genetically and physiologically?

Oh, you think evolution is a one night event just like God magically created the universe in 6days? That isn't how evolution work.


Divine fallacy.

If you gathered nothing better to say stop yarning this anthem joor.

Well, animals have been evolving for same time period yet non of them has evolved to the speech of a 4 year old or writing ability of a kingergartner.

Religion beats you because you start with nothing turning into something. Religions starts with the existence of a timeless being, plus religion works in real life. Prayers mysteriously get answered and people's lives get more peaceful and wholesome.

hopefulLandlord:
a psychiatrist was treating a patient that suffers from insanity brought about by the fact that she couldn't bear a child which led to divorce

every morning in this psychiatric home, she'll call for the doctor joyfully and point to a corner in her room and say "Doctor! I gave birth to twins last night, look at them", the doctor then pretends its true and that he can see these children she's talking about, she does this everyday and the doctor plays along each time

when asked by a journalist who was interested in this patient's predicament why he plays along despite knowing the woman is living a lie, he replied "it helps her maintain much better sanity and if I have a power to make her see reality again, I wouldn't"

what I'm trying to pass with that story is that IF belief in some supernatural, supreme, eternal, all powerful, all knowing, all loving being works for you, if it gives you peace and wholesomeness, if it helps give your life a meaning, if it helps you cope with life's challenges, if it helps you be a better person then I wouldn't take that belief away from you even if I have the power; You can wear purple robes eat cardboard and worship the almighty chia pet in your home or church and I have no problem with what you believe.

i however can't believe such, the best I could do is pretend to believe it. But I refuse to be that person. I'm hopeful that you'd rather deal with an honest me than a guy who simply pays lip service to popular beliefs just to get along with others......

Thanks for the funny story. I will use it sometime
The problem is that sincere religion did not come from imagination. It came from direct experience of sometjing/someone supernatural.
Someone put the Koran on mohamed's lips, a total illiterate. St Paul was bent on stamping out Christianity until he encountered someone and became Christianity's biggest proponent, etc.

Richirich713:
In a nutshell the atheistic picture of universe can be seen the below:

Don't make fun of atheists. They seem to make sense when looking at small everyday things: malaria, 2+2=4. They only stop making sense when you consider big questions

adepeter26:
1). Personally, I don't know. Before that, it's some religion by the way that passively claim something came from nothing.

2). Atheism has never made such claim. And BTW as well, science is not the only thing atheism depend on but they agree for now that only science has a good and logical explanation for the events happening around us.

3). I believe evolution is there to answer this question. I myself really don't know much about this evolution stuff cos I can never know everything and don't even want to know everything.



In summary, we don't know. But because we don't know doesn't mean religion should shove the concept of GOD OF THE GAPS down our throat.
We don't know doesn't stop us from asking you that know important logical and critical questions.

If you know, can you please tell us the answers to the question

Remember sincere religion came from DIRECT EXPERIENCE of the being. Religion never claimed something came from nothing. They say there is an intelligent timeless being. And, honestly that's the only thing that answer those questions.

As for evolution, let's just be honest with ourselves for a minute, point to any animal you think will evolve into man. Man was GIVEN certain attributes from the ONSET that radically separates him from other animals.
Once more, look around you and be honest with yourself, belief in God works. It produces a kind of peace and wholesomeness. Prayers get answered. People constantly testify that everything failed till they came to God, Christ. That's just everyday reality

(Modify) (Quote) (Report) (Share)

adepeter26:
Are you a Christian?

Let's start from there

If you look around you and be honest with yourself, belief in God works. It produces a kind of peace and wholesomeness. Prayers get answered. People constantly testify that everything failed till they came to God, Christ. That's just everyday reality

(Modify) (Quote) (Report) (Share)

ScepticalPyrrho:
You can ask the same for a "supreme eternal being" if it is assumed to be existing.
You can also ask the same for a "supreme eternal being" if it is supposed to be existing.
Which animal isn't unique in its own way?
What makes man so special?

1. That's why religion beats everything else, because it says from the onset that there is an ETERNAL, TIMELESS being who has always been there and will always be there.
2. ONLY the existence of such a being can answer those questions.
3. Common sense and instinct, if you are honest , will tell you that no amount of evolution can turn any other animal human-like

hopefulLandlord:
this post is filled with strawman fallacy

you sound like a deist/pantheist

Sorry, hopefulLandlord. Forgive my prior post. I did not check who posted it b4 replying. I'm new at this

hopefulLandlord:
can you mention such atheists that straight up claim to KNOW for sure that there's no greater being?

such an atheist would most likely make that claim due to lack of evidence for such a being outside some gaps in our knowledge so far

as for your "agnostic" part, Theism/atheism speaks to what you *believe*. Gnosticism/agnosticism speaks to what you *know*. One can claim to be a gnostic theist (very common), an agnostic theist (far less common but not unusual), an agnostic atheist (virtually all atheists are this), or a gnostic atheist (these are incredibly rare, and will usually clarify their position by stating that they only take this position regards to specific god claims, as Matt Dillahunty does). Richard Dawkins, easily the most famous atheist advocate, calls himself an agnostic atheist, because he does not believe, but he does not claim to know for certain.

I myself claim to be mostly an agnostic atheist. To the specific claim of the Abrahamic god, I will go so far as to claim gnostic atheism - not because of any special knowledge on my part, but simply because I have yet to hear a description of this deity that passes so much as basic logical coherence. There may yet be a god - but if we do discover one someday, it most likely won't be the one the bible/Koran/Torah/Mormon etc talks about.

I read your post again. Well thanks for the education. You must be really versed on this topic. Still, if you look around you and be honest with yourself, belief in God works. It produces a kind of peace and wholesomeness. Prayers get answered. People constantly testify that everything failed till they came to God, Christ. That's just everyday reality

hopefulLandlord:
can you mention such atheists that straight up claim to KNOW for sure that there's no greater being?

such an atheist would most likely make that claim due to lack of evidence for such a being outside some gaps in our knowledge so far

as for your "agnostic" part, Theism/atheism speaks to what you *believe*. Gnosticism/agnosticism speaks to what you *know*. One can claim to be a gnostic theist (very common), an agnostic theist (far less common but not unusual), an agnostic atheist (virtually all atheists are this), or a gnostic atheist (these are incredibly rare, and will usually clarify their position by stating that they only take this position regards to specific god claims, as Matt Dillahunty does). Richard Dawkins, easily the most famous atheist advocate, calls himself an agnostic atheist, because he does not believe, but he does not claim to know for certain.

I myself claim to be mostly an agnostic atheist. To the specific claim of the Abrahamic god, I will go so far as to claim gnostic atheism - not because of any special knowledge on my part, but simply because I have yet to hear a description of this deity that passes so much as basic logical coherence. There may yet be a god - but if we do discover one someday, it most likely won't be the one the bible/Koran/Torah/Mormon etc talks about.

The very definition of an atheist is someone who does not believe in the existence of a supreme eternal being. I don't know how someone can answer those questions presented without admitting to the existence of an intelligent controlling outside force

hopefulLandlord:
this post is filled with strawman fallacy

you sound like a deist/pantheist

I actually think his post is very thoughtful. Instead of being so casually dismissive about his post why not present your own explanation or answers if you have any

DeepEyes:
Oh sorry but I doubt ud get any proper response since atheist, just like theists, hate when their beliefs are questioned beyond their mental capacity. Ironic isn't it? They're​ guilty of the exact thing they condemn all believers for- blind belief! Lol. They are very logical until they have to get illogical to support their logic. Lemme explain: standard science law of causes and affects is suddenly benched to argue that there was once a "Random" big bang out of "nowhere" that started time, space and evolution. See what I mean? Lol

To answer ur question tho, the subject of God is complexity, as only religion posits any kind of practical explanation. But we know, from history, that religions can't be trusted due to their mostly contrived ideologies. This "made up" nature of religion is what disqualifies it and it's claims, atleast for an intellectual mind. Science on the other hand tries to be as investigative as possible, until they have no more leads and resort to stalemate hypothesis disguised as theories. This is where science fails too. So both the theist and atheist end up in the same boat of knowledgeable ignorance. Wouldn't it suffice to just admit that we don't know, rather than feigning one knowledge or the other?

There's obviously an origin/source/creator but its probably not that "God" depicted by religion as an attention-seeking insecure being.

Thanks for your very intelligent answer. Except how would you know the nature of the supreme being. He may very well be as presented by religion. Remember "God" as presented by religion came about through direct experience. It was not theoretical or made-up. I mean Moses, Muhammad, Paul had direct experience of the Supreme Being and they tried to convey him and his message as he presented himself to them.

hopefulLandlord:
I don't know, atheism lays no claim to such things as origin of life, atheism is simply lack of belief in the existence of god(s) due to lack of good evidence for such

Science however has evolution theory which gives a fairly good explanation about how man evolved, you can read books by evolutionary biologists

Thanks for your answer, BUT atheists claim to KNOW there is no Supreme Being. Which is why I asked atheists not agnostics.

RIP

Sorry o

I happen to believe 9ja is stronger and more fun staying one. Sorry, but I'd be bored by biafra

I live in nyc. And I also live in Lagos. I see both sides. All I can say is I'd do whatever it takes to avoid being treated in a 9ja hospital.

This is romance section. Go to tech

Rubbish. We need to pay ten events of NIGERIA.

Always pass that hospital on my way home. They never mentioned in the news the man was Nigerian. They made it sound like it was a moslem terrorist