₦airaland Forum

clayfounder:
Congratulations on your visa! If you are selling or giving away any of your properties or household appliances before you travel, please let me know as I am interested.God bless!

Guy why now hahaha 😂😂

Can't you just congratulate and move on 😬😬

But on a serious note are people still selling property because of Visitors Visa to Canada?

orjohn24:
One way to navigate life in Canada is to come prepared with your tuition fees and living expenses. Do not rely solely on working to cover these costs, as many students struggle to find jobs for months. Additionally, studying in Canada does not guarantee permanent residency (PR), despite the significant amount spent on education including loans. Many students regret coming to Canada via the study route but feel trapped due to shame or having nothing left at home after selling their property. To avoid such a situation, choose your course, province, and school wisely, considering the system's current needs, and plan carefully to prevent ending up in a difficult position!

Everyone might ignore this, but I believe it's the best advice anyone can give to someone coming to Canada via the student route in 2025:

1. Tuition fees and living expense:
Everything said is FACTS but I will add
You can't work to pay your tuition—it’s impossible. You will, however, be able to cover your rent, some bills, and buy food, and some basic stuff.


2. Studying in Canada does not guarantee permanent residency (PR):
Look at the trends and average PR points to understand how you can increase your CRS score, assuming you already have a Canadian degree and work experience before you come https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/ministerial-instructions/express-entry-rounds.html

3. Choose your course, province, and school wisely:

Don’t go to diploma mills just because they are cheaper—you’ll regret it in the long run.

Let me add 2 more

4. Avoid Facebook visa agents:
What more can I say about this? 😆😂

5. A new Conservative government is expected in 2025, and many changes to the immigration process are likely. Conservatives are known for capping immigration (both legal and illegal), so the numbers will likely drop below current levels.

Small Good News:
No matter which government is in power, Canada will always need international students. The only difference is that some governments may reduce the number of study permits issued, while others may increase them.

affoncad:
Let’s clarify one thing first, so others don’t make the same mistake. Dropping out of school after just one month shows you were unprepared for the financial challenges of studying in Canada. Let’s set the exchange rate aside for now.

Secondly, you broke several rules. You cannot be out of school for more than three months, and even if you are, you must notify IRCC and are not allowed to work during that period. While some students managed to avoid consequences last year, schools have now started filing official reports, especially the University of Manitoba. Last year, this school required no tuition deposit, which was the main reason many students applied just to land in Canada, often following the advice of visa agents. You even asked the same question about this situation when you applied for your visa and again after you got it, so you were fully aware of the risks. What happened to all this advice and information? This stricter enforcement this year has made the situation even more challenging. Now, even to change schools, you must apply for a new study permit.

I know a student who did exactly what you did last year. He was out of school for even fewer months and then changed schools. However, after completing his program this year, his postgraduate work permit (PGWP) was refused. Instead of seeking proper legal advice like you doing now , a poorly informed quack individual advised him to claim asylum—a highly flawed approach to solving a PGWP rejection. His case was expedited, and just 3 months after applying for asylum he was giving very fast asylum hearing date with ircc offical present to add salt to his injury , his claim was denied because it was clearly weak. He is now on appeal, but given the current circumstances, it’s unlikely he will win.

Since you are now in a new school, the record of what you have done since arriving in Canada will significantly impact your future PGWP or PR applications. Seek professional advice immediately.l wish you all the best

Thank you for this information affoncad

This provides more context to the question you're asking @Fulani14 Fulani14

I didn’t realize you already had the mindset to change schools even before arriving in Canada.

People like you are part of the reason IRCC keeps making things more difficult for other Nigerians coming after you.

You claim you’ll transfer to a higher college or university (knowing finances will be an issue), only to get the visa and switch to a no-name college.

Working while not being in school
Working for that long on a student Visa 🤦🏾‍♂️
Not informing IRCC of all the updates the time it was happening 🤦🏾‍♂️

This behavior forces IRCC to tighten rules to address people gaming the system.

You’ll likely spend more money trying to get yourself out of this mess, with no guarantee of a positive outcome.

To anyone who thinks they can game the IRCC system:

I’ve gone through the process from student > PGWP > PR > citizen, and I can tell you—you can’t game the system here.

It will catch up with you eventually.

Fulani14:
Currently in Nova Scotia maybe that's why none were listed?

Claudia Toulany Immigration Consulting Services Inc. Is the only registered Canadian consulate in Nova Scotia.

Google them and get in contact with them

Except them you can use an immigration lawyer but immigration lawyers are more expensive but the first point of contact is a registered immigration consultant

Best of luck

Jeboy:
If you are in New Brunswick, I can assist you with the contact of a consultant in Woodstock.

I think finding a consultant in your area shouldn't be a problem. There are websites you can get such info for consultant in every province.

Please make sure the person is a licensed Canadian consultant (Regulated Canadian Immigration Consultant) registered with the College of Immigration and Citizenship Consultants.

Read more about it

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigration-citizenship-representative/choose/authorized.html


If not, avoid using any "Facebook visa agents."

Fulani14:
I consulted with my school already but because they are a small college and they haven't been of any help. I also tried the link you sent I wasn't able to view the public register....I was thinking there would be a list of the consultant

What city are you in?

Use your laptop to go over the list

Or use your phone on landscape mode to see the list well

and Google the listed companies

Fulani14:
Thank you so much for your response.
Ps: pls before you start telling me what I did wrong and judging me, take a walk in my shoes first. I am looking for a solution not judgement. Thank you.
The issue is that I came to Canada last year on a study visa of 3year. While I was doing the processing naira to cad rate was stable, and I could afford my tuition. After my application, naija happened and everything scattered. I was left with either travelling here when I did or staying back in Nigeria. I decided to come here...I was admitted to a university which was crazy expensive. To cut long story short. I had to voluntarily withdrawn last year. About a month into my program and I was working.. put money together and I moved to the Atlantic region and was able to resume school this yr Sept. I know the rules and yes I have been out of school for a year. My current program is in demand in my province. I just want to know what's the way forward now that am back in school. My program now is a 1yr program and I will be done by spring next yr.
I also want to know if there is a page on here where i can get any advise ....pls help

I know a lot has changed since I was in the study visa category stage, and I can't say I'm up-to-date on the new rules regarding study permits and student visa cases.

Firstly, it would be advisable to speak to a representative at your school's international student center. Most schools typically have representatives who are well-versed in the current, ever-changing immigration system.

They would likely have an advisor who can provide you with a brief breakdown of what you need to do or what options are available in your case.

That said, it is essential to consult a licensed immigration consultant, as I mentioned earlier. They will be in the best position to guide you through the process.

A lot has changed, and I can't provide the best advice at this time. However, I know that being out of school for an extended period could raise concerns when applying for a post-graduate work permit after graduation.

I strongly recommend consulting a licensed immigration consultant, not relying on unverified Facebook visa agents. Use the link I sent to find a licensed professional.

Fulani14:
Hi everyone, I know most of this forums were created for a DIY purpose which it has helped me with in the past with my study permit application, but is there any immigration consultant or lawyer her in Canada that is reliable that one can have access to. I have issues with IRCC and I am about to graduate and need help. And yes before u say it I know they are not reliable. Thank you.

You can share your issue here, and we will try to help. However, if you cannot, you must contact a licensed immigration consultant, not any *Facebook visa agent*

Here’s where you can find one in your city, county, or anywhere in the world, including Canada.

https://register.college-ic.ca/Public-Register-EN/RCIC_Search.aspx

Maria96:
this. Will remove after

dammmmm👀👀👀

Maria96:
this person got visit visa with the mother and brother. Those ones came first and filled asylum. Last month he tried to come in to Canada and was stopped at Frankfurt during layover and returned back to Nigeria. The embassy later issued him this. Seems they flagged it based on what his mum and brother had done. He may not even be coming to claim asylum himself. The actions of a few will always rob off in the end. But if we talk they would call us names .

And I am 98% sure the mother and brother will be denied PR after claiming asylum.

Keep telling stories like that some people need to hear it

FACTS is FACTS

angie88:
U make ur point and its well noted, dont come here flooding d group with links and facts.
Asylum seeking did not start with canada and definitely will not end with them.

Even countries like Germany and the USA have strict immigration systems.

I've run the numbers for Canada, the USA, and Germany, and the facts speak for themselves.

If I had time I would do more countries.

You told me not to flood the group with links and data, but I’m glad you at least acknowledge that facts are facts

And FACTS doesn’t care about anyone’s feelings.

The problem is, most people don’t want to work with facts and statistics, which I enjoy analyzing.

Deep down, you know it’s the truth, but you hate having to face it.

Many people prefer listening to "Facebook visa agents" who promise that *everything* is possible.

For instance, someone recently claimed you could convert a visitor’s visa into a work visa as at 4 days ago

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=8853103864758669&id=100001774308669


Honestly, I’ve been thinking about becoming a "Facebook visa agent" 🤣🤣 myself!

Nigerians love hearing sweet nothings, and I could make a fortune. I’d flash my Canadian passport, promise them the world, and laugh my way to the bank. 💸💸💸

But seriously, I know firsthand the damage these "Facebook agents" have done to my friends.

I’ve seen asylum claims denied in Germany and the USA. Living in Canada, I’m well aware of the immigration realities.

Here’s the truth about entering Canada with a visitor’s visa:

1. You can’t stay more than six months per entry, even if your visa is valid for 10 years.

2. You can’t work legally with a visitor’s visa.

3. You can’t convert a visitor’s visa into a work visa.

4. For Nigerians, asylum claims have a 39–45% chance of approval under Justin Trudeau’s government.

If this offends you, here’s a suggestion: follow a "Facebook visa agent" who will tell you what you want to hear.

https://www.facebook.com/100083193287574/

Or revisit the link above—I know you don’t like facts, but they’re there for a reason.

Go for a licensed immigration consultant
Fun fact in the whole of Nigeria we have only 6 license immigration consultant for 🇨🇦 and only 1 in Lagos 🤣🤣👀 ( they will say I have come with my links)

https://register.college-ic.ca/Public-Register-EN/RCIC_Search.aspx

orjohn24:
Nigerians often have a mentality of being angry about the truth, especially when claiming asylum; they tend to dismiss anything others say as falsehood or term is negative vibes

I even provided 🇨🇦 government website with links but because it's not what they want to hear they get angry 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Facts don't care about your feelings

angie88:
Oga i dont really know the points u r trying to make here. Leave everyone to their fate and stop spreading negative vibes.

#i come in peace.

I provided statistics from the government website covering 2013 to 2024, showing the number of people with pending asylum claims, the percentage of Nigerians granted asylum, and those whose claims were rejected.

Wouldn't it be good for someone to know their chances before hand ?

Yet, I’m being accused of spreading negative vibes.
( Whatever that means 🤔🤔 💭💭)

The truth is bitter, but I understand. I blame my company for closing for the Christmas break I now have too much time to spend on Nairaland.😩😩😩

The truth is you coming from Nigeria you have a lower chance for your asylum claim to be granted FACTS

And that chance keeps reducing daily and with the new government it's going to be lower.

Ikiloba:
I live close to a hotel in Niagara falls where ircc is housing refugees and I can tell you that ircc is currently issuing refugee claimant documents and accepting refugees and giving them positive responses without granting interviews or hearing date . A lady from Uganda who seeks refugee status in last November is now a permanent resident as we speak.. she got a positive responses from irb board with going for hearing... I know all cases are different I will not advise anybody not to seek refugee status. Do what you can to get out of Nigeria.

Uganda isn’t Nigeria

I work with numbers—facts, not feelings or hearsay like "I know someone who knows someone."

As of today, the number of people with pending asylum claims:
- Uganda: 4,729
- Nigeria: 17,747

The number of Nigerians waiting to claim asylum since Justin Trudeau took office has doubled—some might even say tripled. Here's the breakdown:

Before Justin Trudeau:
- End of 2013: 253
- End of 2014: 305
- End of 2015: 496 (Trudeau took office on November 4)

Under Justin Trudeau:
- End of 2016: 1,159
- End of 2017: 4,991
- End of 2018: 12,138
- End of 2019: 10,782
- End of 2020: 8,388 (COVID impact)
- End of 2021: 3,183 (extra lockdowns due to COVID)
- End of 2022: 2,018
- End of 2023: 6,871
- As of today, 2024: 17,747 🤯

https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/statistics/protection/pages/index.aspx

I did the math so you don’t have to—because I know most people wouldn’t have time! 😁

If you’re Nigerian, you currently have about a 39%-45% chance of getting permanent residency (PR) via the asylum route under Justin Trudeau's government. And that was before the government announced new immigration measures.

Keep in mind:
- These figures don’t account for the number of people who reapply for asylum (often incurring significant costs like legal fees).

- Once your asylum claim is denied, you stop receiving government benefits.

- Many people eventually give up and either withdraw their application or face deportation.

Under a conservative government, benefits will be reduced

And your "conference" format will not work

further. So, if you're on your own (OYO), think carefully before making decisions.

clayfounder:
I met a man who lived in Canada before. He said that the recent Canadian budget report showed a $61 billion deficit, and the Government of Canada is now projected to owe $2.6 trillion by 2030, with $70 billion in interest payments per year. Therefore, they can only pause immigration due to the election, but after the election, they will return to mass immigration. Without the constant flow of immigrants to generate tax revenue, they cannot fully address all this debt, old age pensions, and excess foreign aid, as it is part of Canada's system of operation...so make l relax hope dey

The people who paused immigration are the Liberals (Justin Trudeau’s party).

If you think Justin Trudeau’s party will win the next election, on or before 0ct 20/27 2025

that’s impossible—unless he pulls off something like Tinubu/INEC on Canadians.

Pierre Poilievre needs 170 seats to win and 172 seats to secure a majority, which would give him the power to repeal all of Justin Trudeau’s bills.

Out of 338 seats, he is currently projected to win 226 as of today, and his numbers keep increasing daily. He has a 99% chance of winning. https://338canada.com/federal.htm

The Conservatives have historically reduced immigration numbers and kept them at a sustainable level for Canada.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/443063/number-of-immigrants-in-canada/
Link doesn't include LMIA and asylum

Pierre Poilievre plans to send back 4,900,000 newcomers whose visas expire in the next 13 months and to stop fake asylum refugee claims.

He refers to this as a "Last in, first out" policy.

He is focused on business.

He has won the hearts of Canadian
Here is a video of him back in 2020/2021 questing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau about a $425,000 scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WE_Charity_scandal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bGVNPw9R8o?si=LEzNdH2g0ZpUc5dZ

Predator188:
Looks like overall Justin Trudeau's citizenship bill is better than Stephen harpers's government, while will a minor at 14 years required to take knowledge and language test for citizenship including 64 years.
Citizenship cannot be revoked for serious crimes under harper's government, countries like UK and US revokes citizenship for serious crimes including terrorism..
All features on 2 ,3 4 ,6 ,7, 8 bill is reasonable with Justin trudeau.

Justin Trudeau and his Liberal Party are known for making the citizenship process faster and easier. However, the Conservatives take a different approach.

The Conservatives excel at keeping the economy strong by emphasizing fiscal responsibility, reducing government spending, and cutting taxes.

Trust me Canadian want lower taxes now ( remove carbon tax)

On the other hand, the Liberals focus on higher taxation to fund more government spending on social programs, infrastructure, and green initiatives.

I do agree with revoking citizenship for dual citizens involved in terrorism.

On July 31, 2024, the RCMP, which functions similarly to the FBI in Canada, arrested Ahmed Eldidi (62), who gained Canadian citizenship in 2023, and his son, Mostafa Eldidi (26), a permanent resident.

Side note: Ahmed Eldidi (62), is a know ISIS member that is flagged in the USA since 2015 for terrorism reasons how the Bleep did he gain access to Canada

Both were caught red-handed in a terrorism-related crime.

This case is shocking. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2100374/man-accused-of-planning-terror-attack-in-toronto-screened-twice-before-getting-citizenship-official

Ahmed Eldidi, who sought asylum in 2018, obtained permanent residency in 2020 and citizenship in 2023.

He was reportedly planning to target a place of worship this year.

This incident highlights a critical flaw in the current immigration and citizenship system, as such a person would likely never have received Canadian citizenship under a Conservative government.

While I don’t agree with Conservatives on everything, their emphasis on security and economic stability is what Canada needs at this time


Canada has been taking international students before I was Born and will continue to do so.

Different government determine the numbers they will take and the Conservatives are good at reducing the number

ednut1:
that you have a property in a place like Lekki does not mean you are immune from financial challenges, political challenges, etc. the daughter of a former Governor Kemi Olunloyo filled for asylum in Canada before being deported due to her past in USA. A lot of well to do people in Nigeria relocated to USA using visiting visa and regularized with marriage or asylum. Dey play

https://gazettengr.com/canada-denies-asylum-to-pdp-chieftain-for-claiming-apc-attacked-persecuted-him-in-2005/

Oooo boy Adam Omozakari Ayonote News is still fresh today as in the news is today

I never read am 😂😂🙆🏾‍♂️🙆🏾‍♂️ Asylum rejection back to back..

No one tells you the truth

The conservation party will even be faster 🤣🤣😂

clayfounder:
But why they come refuse visit visa for a person going on holiday for 7 days with over 50 million in account with business document,many properties,family and other source of income but no travel experience

The truth is, every case is different, and no result will be the same.

Back in 2016, I was denied my 2nd student visa and my 4th visa in total to Canada.

That was my 4th visa rejection, even after paying $10,000 in school fees for the first year, with a total fee of $30,000.

At the time, my dad had $32,000 in savings and about ₦20,000,000 in his personal account, along with a business account holding ₦100,000,000.

This was for Centennial College, where I was pursuing a postgraduate diploma.

Don’t worry—after the denial, I was refunded.

Canadian immigration can be very frustrating.

Over the years, after helping others with visa applications, one thing I’ve come to understand is that most people don’t qualify for the visa category they are applying for.

In my case, I was initially applying for a student visa with a postgraduate diploma.

However, when I applied for a master’s degree program and a student visa, it was approved quickly, even with less money in my dad's account.

By that time, my sister had already moved to Canada in 2016, and her fees had been fully paid.

Another factor to consider is the immigration climate of the country at the time of your application.

For example, Canada is now trying to reduce the number of temporary visas (visitor visas), making it more challenging to get approved.

Back in 2014 to 2017 🇳🇬 apply for colleges for a diploma program come into the country

When you already have a BSC in Nigeria

and because of Buhari and exchange rate issue started that time most people didn't complete the college they look for ways to get PR ( marriage asylum etc.) while still being students

But it was less with people coming for Masters and PHD

One thing to note is that obtaining a Canadian visa is not just about having money—although finances are very very very important —but also about applying for the visa under the right category that suits your qualifications and intentions.

IRCC knows you are not coming for a "conference".😂😂

The 🇳🇬 that have come here before you they don't do what they say they will do are the main issue.

https://immigrationnewscanada.ca/canada-immigration-rising-asylum-claims/

Jeboy:
What are the chances of Trudeau govt surviving next year's election?

Will it pan out like the US election where opposition won with a landslide?

If govt changes, what does that mean for immigrants?

Forgot to add this last picture

Bye bye Justin Trudeau

Jeboy:
What are the chances of Trudeau govt surviving next year's election?

Will it pan out like the US election where opposition won with a landslide?

If govt changes, what does that mean for immigrants?

Part 1

The world is turning conservative

Germany France all their government fell this month and would should change government to more conservative party 🥳 🥳

So Justin Trudeau will not win the next election his party is behind in the Poles badly and he is trying to do everything to stay popular $250 cheques to people earning below $150,000 and all that but he has messed up 🇨🇦 badly

It's alot but I will explain the little I can

So yesterday which was on Monday the finance ministers was meant to present the Fall Economic Statement (FES) Which had a $61 billion dollars deficit


That means Justin Trudeau spent 61 billion dollars more now Canadian are angry that he will be spending more on


$817,000,000 in additional spending in healthcare support for asylum seekers and refugees.

Additional $490,000,000 to Quebec to help with Asylum seekers.

Additional $77,000,000 to house asylum seekers next year, plus another $100,000,000 for more asylum claimants lodging costs.

Special immigration measures for Gaza and Ukraine will cost $112,000,000 over the next 3 years.

Asylum and refugees direct additional costs are adding billions to our deficit

Canadian are angry with him and his reckless spending on illegal migrants and the economy

The Government of Canada is now projected to owe $2.6T by 2030 and pay $70B in interest per year which is madness 🤯🤯🤯🤯

They also claim they will have $1 trillion in financial assets to back up this debt.

Guess what that is 🇨🇦 pension which is CPP

Also the Canadian Dollar dipped below 70¢ overnight Monday night when all this was happening.

The last time this happened was in 1993 and 1998.

His reckless spending on and different bills that hurt Canadian pocket

Bill C-293: Canadian sovereignty

Bill C-63: Controlled speech

Bill S-210: Digital identification

Bill S-275: Bank of Canada reform

Bill C-223: Universal basic income

Bill C11 Censorship

Bill C21 Disarm Law Abiding Citizens

Bill C18 More Censorship

ArriveScam; 62 million dollars

$258 Million in projects to GC Strategies;

Winnipeg Labs;

SNC Scandal;

Aga Khan trip Scandal;

$84k Jamaican Vacation;

$6k/night for a single room for the Queen's Funeral;

$1.3 Million on 3 'Affordability Retreats';

China Election Interference;

Chinese Police Stations in Canada;

Green Slush Fund Scandal 400 million

Funding Islamic groups who are protesting in support of Hamas;

$1 Billion paid out for Hotels for Immigrants;

Additional Bell funding, $40 Million to fire staff;

A Billion Dollars to CBC to collapse their credibility;

Blocking Veterans Affairs Committee investigation;

$29 Billion in cost overruns on TMX;

Expanding MAID into those with Mental Illness;

$2 Billion to invest in companies that don't exist;

$500 Million to fund abortions in other countries;

WE Scandal;

CPP increase and CPP2;

Highest inflation in 30 years;

Highest interest rates in 30 years;

Unsustainable immigration;

Forcing Untested Vaccinations;

Ignoring Vaccine Injured;

11 Million Canadians requiring Food Banks;

2 Million Canadians hitting the food banks per month; every month.

Tent Cities in every major city;

Housing and Rent prices skyrocketing;

Healthcare Collapsing;

Out of-control spending by the Governor General;

Overpayment of CERB payments to prisoners, people who don't qualify,

people who don't live in Canada;

10k Ventilators, purchased from a Liberal Friend, that never got used because they were never needed;

$300 Million for storage of Mobile Hospitals that were never used;

$400 Million for Quarantine Hospitals;

Illegally using the Emergencies Act against Canadians;

Firing Federal workers and not paying them El based on Vaccination

Status;

$30 Billion in making batteries for cars, while EV Manufacturers are

divesting from EV Technology:

Accusing India of killing citizens on Canadian Soil;

Soiling relations with China;

Telling Germany and Japan that we don't want their business on LNG;

Part2

If you didn’t know, here it is: Pierre Poilievre is going to be the next Prime Minister of Canada. https://www.instagram.com/pierrepoilievremp?igsh=NWRsamFkZndpeml0

But a clown jagmeet singh who even isn't in JT party is the reason we have to wait for an election

jagmeet singh is waiting for February 23 2025 when he qualifies for his 2.3 million dollars pension then he can vote against JT to trigger an early election.

If not it's till October 20/27 2025 and I am sure it will happen after jagmeet singh qualifies for his pension.


To answer your question after my long rant:

What are the chances of the Trudeau government surviving next year's election?
Zero chance—it's virtually impossible at this point.

Will it pan out like the U.S. election, where the opposition won in a landslide?

Yes, it will. The Conservative Party is projected to win 226 out of 338 seats.
https://338canada.com/federal.htm

If the government changes, what does that mean for immigrants?
- Immigration policies will likely return to how they were before Justin Trudeau, with a focus on PNP (Provincial Nominee Programs) and category-based draws.

- Pierre Poilievre has stated he will limit the number of foreigners to match the number of houses being built in Canada.

What this means for international students: Obtaining a student visa will become much harder, but with fewer students, there will be less competition for PR (Permanent Residency) after graduation like it was before 2015 my brother got his PR in British Columbia after schooling in Ontario


- Protests like the ones in Brampton for PR will stop as PR is a privilege not a right

It will also streamline the PR process for the jobs wanted by the government in demand.

Canadian schools rely heavily on international tuition fees, so while the number of students may drop, they will still accept some.

The good news is that students who do get in will likely have a better chance of converting to PR after completing their studies and working.

So there is hope but you need to get that student visa and be in a program in school that the government see as indemand like health care construction and STEM

Sorry for the long write-up! 😁

isArray:
$300/day in Toronto is alot except you're taking uber everywhere, I did not spend up to $150/day - public transportation, sightseeing and food all inclusive.

I don't say what I don't know.

The exception isn’t the case or norm here.

Just because you do it doesn’t mean it’s an exception and you are already in Toronto settled

People here are trying to convince the visa officer that they have the financial means to support themselves while in the country, will not claim asylum, and won’t be a burden on social services.

They also need to prove that they’ll return to Nigeria after their "conference" is over.

This is why it’s required to have more than the average traveler would in your bank account, ready to spend.

First, let’s break down the costs:

1. **Accommodation**: The average hotel room in Toronto or Canada as a whole costs around $150 per night (this is a conservative estimate).

2. **Transportation**: Using the TTC, GO Bus, and trains will cost a minimum of $20 per day. If you’re new to the area and moving around a lot as a tourist attending a "conference," transportation expenses could go up to $50 daily.

3. **Food**: Eating isn’t cheap. Even if you cook, it could cost you $30–$100 per day.

To be on the safe side, because you’re convincing the visa officer of your ability to financially sustain yourself, budgeting **$300 per day** is reasonable.

For reference, here’s what Statistics Canada says about Canadian residents’ spending on domestic trips:

As of August 28, 2024, the average spending per domestic trip was $233 ($112 for same-day trips and $496 for overnight trips) in the first quarter of 2024. This implies that a foreigner will likely spend even more.

Source: [Statistics Canada - Daily](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240828/dq240828c-eng.htm)

Bobomaigida:
How is money printing responsible for expensive housing?

Basic Economics 101.

Canada isn't building houses fast enough to meet demand.

Money printing floods the economy with liquidity, lowers interest rates, and drives investment into real estate, which increases demand and drives up housing prices.

And yes, he forced her to resign after she couldn't control his $62 billion deficit spending as Minister of Finance—just like he forced his previous finance minister, William Francis Morneau Jr., to resign.

The bolded is the reason why houses have been expensive, not excessive liquidity, the interest rates have been on high since March 2022 and it is only this year that the BofC have started easing the rates.

As for the finance minister the main issue bwt her and JT is how Canada was to handle Trump threats of 25% tariff on Canadian goods, while the ex finance minister believes that they should confront Trump head on and keep their resources (Money) handy to that( that is why she was against the $250 cheques that the govt will give to some certain tax payers), JT believes that they should rapport with Trump and negotiate to see what they can do. It is this disagreement that has led for JT to try to move her to another ministry before she resigned, though there are rumours that the ex finance minister wants to contest for LP leadership if JT resigns.

Even before interest rates started reducing, did you think house prices would drop? It seems unlikely since they aren’t building enough houses fast enough.

I have my personal house, purchased in 2023 (fixed interest rate), and

an investment house that I got with my sister in 2022 (variable interest rate).

Even if the Bank of Canada reduces interest rates back to COVID-era levels of 0.5% or 1%, and the mortgage rate for variable loans decreases due to lower demand, I can still rent the property at market rates.

Unfortunately, market rent will remain high because of excess spending on housing with little to show for it.

Demand remains high because immigration numbers are outpacing housing supply.

As for the Finance Minister, she resigned because Justin Trudeau was likely going to throw her under the bus anyway.

She couldn’t present the Fall Economic Update deficit, so stepping down was a move to save her political career."

[quote author=Bobomaigida post=133331953]How is money printing responsible for expensive housing?

Basic Economics 101.

Canada isn't building houses fast enough to meet demand.

Money printing floods the economy with liquidity, lowers interest rates, and drives investment into real estate, which increases demand and drives up housing prices.

And yes, he forced her to resign after she couldn't control his $62 billion deficit spending as Minister of Finance—just like he forced his previous finance minister, William Francis Morneau Jr., to resign.

Hoelujohn:
Real Estate should not be a form of investment, simple. If you go into it, whatever you see, take. They are the major reason why people can't have afford housing

Whatever you see in any business, you take it.

That’s why I reduce my risk by selecting better tenants—those who are more likely to leave if they aren’t paying rent.

Real estate shouldn’t be considered an investment?

Tell that to the world’s largest asset managers, BlackRock and Brookfield Asset Management, who own the largest portfolios of single-family residences in North America.

Brookfield Asset Management alone owns about $1 trillion worth of property, spanning both commercial and non-commercial (single-family homes) real estate.

https://www.brookfield.com/our-businesses/real-estate

The reason housing is so expensive in Canada today is because of a clown named Justin Trudeau. His reckless money printing has completely messed things up. To top it off, his Finance and Housing Minister just resigned today.

MsAnonymous:
Please do I need proof of funds if I have a valid US visa?
Also what is a safe bank balance to have for a 7 day canadian trip
Finally what additional documents apart from the norm can I add. Is an introduction letter necesaary? to fully explain why I want to travel

You have a valid US visa, so the visa officer is less likely to suspect that you plan to overstay or claim asylum.

1. Proof of Funds (POF):
You need to provide proof of funds for any visa application. Clearly explaining your plans and how you intend to fund them will greatly strengthen your application.

2. Sample Budget for a 7-Day Stay:
For a 7-day trip, outline your expenses as follows:
- Flight: $$$
- Accommodation: $$$
- Activities: $$$ (Explain what you plan to do and their costs.)
- Transportation: $$$
- Food: $$$

If you have a family member who is a PR or citizen, they can provide their PR card or passport with their address and rent agreement or mortgage to show the visa officer that you will stay with them. If they are covering your accommodation, they should write a letter confirming this. This can reduce the financial burden on your application.

If you don’t have such a family member, that’s fine. You’ll need to write a detailed letter explaining your plans, activities, and estimated costs you are looking to spend for each item.

3. Safe Bank Balance:
While there’s no exact "safe balance," having more than the recommended amount for your trip is crucial. For example, if you have ₦15 million ( one applicant) , that would be considered sufficient but IRCC wants you to have More way more than your your require.

On average, a tourist in Toronto spends at least $300 per day, and this is a conservative estimate.

4. Why Family Members Help in Visa Applications:
Many successful applicants have family members who assist by:
- Providing their PR card or passport.
- Writing a letter or providing proof (e.g., a lease agreement) to show they will house and accommodate the applicant.

This reduces concerns for the visa officer and simplifies the application process.

clayfounder:
Oga,This people don understand our scope and he don cast ,all this conference and tourist visa as a novice traveller na mostly to gain entrance to Canada and disappear, person that never go Ghana or south Africa and just wake up and want to spend 6 million naira to attend a conference in Canada but uk student visa na pure water if you get ur money it 100% sure but you go see shege pro max for uk if you land on student visa as my guy currently in uk advice me ..make l use my money enjoy xmas ...l no apply again for now

Canada doesn't want you to spend your 6 million Naira they will help you save it by rejecting

IRCC will help you attend your " conference" via zoom

Every Western country will show you "Shege Pro Max" if you don’t understand the situation on the ground and believe you’ll be the exception.

If you arrive on a student visa without sufficient funds, here’s the reality:

- You cannot work and pay for your tuition fees.

- You can work to cover basic expenses like rent, food, clothing, and bills (e.g., phone).

The "Shege Pro Max" comes when someone arrives in the UK or Canada thinking they can work and pay off their school fees. Kill that idea—it’s not possible.

If anyone believes otherwise, let them explain how it’s achievable on a 24-hour workweek at minimum wage. It simply isn’t.

funkyy598:
So, you believe that once you secure a Canada visitor visa and land in Canada, you can apply for a student visa without needing proof of funds or a deposit? Please, that is a 100% false assumption. Applying for a student visa, whether inside or outside Canada, is the same process. In fact, it can be even more expensive and difficult from inside Canada because you will still need to provide all the necessary requirements, including the deposit required by the school and proof of funds for visa application . Additionally, your spouse cannot simply work in Canada because you are a student—this privilege is exclusive to Master's and PhD students, as well as some selected degree programs. Furthermore, some spouses of Master's students who apply for a spouse open work permit are still being rejected. So, plan well to avoid being stranded with incorrect information!

All you said here is FACTS 👌🏾.

You will still need to show POF even while in Canada with a VV to convert to student Visa.

And your spouses of Master's students who apply for a spouse open work permit are still being rejected.

FACTS

mcsugk:
I understand but overstaying might still favour some people..
Overstaying there is better than suffering in Nig..
Also a friend of mine went there with visitor visa recently and later applied for study and he was given admission..
He’s currently schooling

Do not overstay your visa in any country.

For your friend, that may have been the only option. However, one exception doesn’t change the facts or the reality on the ground.

Most people living abroad often don’t share the full truth about their situations—they lie.

The processing time for admission and obtaining a study visa or permit usually takes more than six months.

The exception you mentioned—converting a visitor visa to a study permit—is indeed the best option. However, it must be done within six months of your arrival.

This approach is much better than attempting to convert a visitor visa to a work permit, which is impossible.


Now what are the Options for Someone Overstaying Their Visa

1. Converting a visitor visa to a study visa/permit:
Possible, but only if done within six months of your entry date.

2. Converting a visitor visa to a work visa/permit:
- Not possible. Kill this idea altogether.

3. Marriage to a PR or citizen 😄IRCC will show you shage Festus Odua is just one out of many cases.

4. Claiming asylum: This is a very serious decision with significant short-term, long-term, and lifetime consequences.

If your claim is denied (and it likely will be, as authorities are familiar with common fabricated claims like those involving LGBTQ status or threats from groups like Boko Haram), you could face removal from Canada and a lifetime ban from re-entry.

If you didn't claim at POE You have to be in the country for 14 days then you fill for asylum

Which Filing an asylum claim results in a conditional removal order, which becomes enforceable if your claim is denied.

You sign for CBSA officers to kick you out if your asylum / refugee claim isn't accepted

You can Prolonging the process by hiring lawyers will be costly ($$$) and only delay the inevitable enforcement.

Summary: Apply for the visa or permit you qualify for to avoid unnecessary stress and complications.

clayfounder:
oga ,you go explain taya ...ircc dey refuse visa especially if you have no family in Canada or good travel history at least you can see from the testimony shared here recently it mostly people with family in Canada or solid travel history and who tell you the man you guiding planning to just go visiting by attend conference and come back or how many that go attend conference last year are back ...l laugh you sir

I am not guiding anyone, just sharing my personal opinion. That’s why I put "conference" in quotation marks.

Yes, if you don’t qualify for the visa, you won’t get it—no hard feelings.

I have gone through the entire IRCC visa application process, from:

- Visitor Visa (2 rejections in 2013/2014) using agent

- to Student Visa (2 rejections in 2015/2016 using an agent),

- to finally getting my Student Visa approved in 2017 (on my own no agent).

Today, I am a Canadian citizen.

Don’t give up, but make sure to use the correct visa for your situation. If you can log into nairaland You have an internet and You have all the information online

I have helped my sister get

(1) student Visa UK (one time)

(2) a Canadian Visitor Visa from the UK, where she works. She visited and returned as required. ( One time).

(3) My brother who is a PR and parents V V all thanks to nairaland no agent

Recently 2 weeks ago, Justin Trudeau’s Immigration Minister talked about reforms to the asylum system to prevent it from being misused.

His party is not going to win he is trying everything possible

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/marc-miller-to-propose-more-changes-to-immigration-and-asylum-system-1.7122704

If you’re planning to overstay your Visitor Visa, abandon that idea Canada has changed

HappyMangle:
And why?

Students are most likely to leave your apartment or house after completing their studies or the end of an academic term.

If you understand Ontario tenancy rules as a landlord, you wouldn't want to rent to someone who refuses to leave your house while not paying rent — it's madness.

Some tenants misuse the slow processing times of the Ontario Landlord and Tenant Board (LTB), refusing to move out despite not paying rent.

This is why landlords often require several documents before renting out their property, including:
1. Lease agreement
2. Bank statements
3. Employment letter
4. Proof of income
5. References
6. Credit report
7. Employment information

Newcomers often don't have all these documents, which makes it more challenging for them to secure rentals.

For example, in a recent case in Brampton, a tenant refused to pay rent or move out for 11 months, leaving the landlord with $30,000 in losses.

https://globalnews.ca/video/10808624/tenant-finally-leaves-brampton-home-without-paying-32k-in-rent

While this wasn't my property, it highlights the risks landlords face.

From my experience, Chinese students are usually reliable tenants — they pay on time, keep the house clean, and require minimal repairs. Their focus on maintaining the property often makes them ideal tenants.

However, I don't rent to Indian tenants as I find they often bring unnecessary stress. If you know, you know.

You’ll fully understand these challenges and risks if you own a property as an investment, and I pray you have that opportunity one day in 🇨🇦

clayfounder:
PLEASE remember, you can present all these documents ,good in/out flow and much more, but still be refused. Please do not sell your property or ancestral land until you have received your visa. The refusal rate is extremely high. Despite all the agents' assurances of solid documentation and counter-promises, they still refused my friend last week after 6 months of waiting!

Do people sell property for a visitor visa? No one should sell property for a visitor visa.

It's a visitor Visa as of today it has alot of limits

Again, stop using unlicensed immigration agents. Ask them for their RCIC number and verify it on the ICCRC website.

If you qualify for a visa category, you will get it.

You need to clearly explain what you will be doing in Canada during your stay.

An unlicensed immigration agent often relies on trial and error. Many produce fake documents or fill out forms incorrectly.

No one knows you better than yourself, so take responsibility for your application.

Lawalemi:
This is really helpful. Many thanks and hopefully to reach you via email, please

Better to share Information here so everyone can learn or help.

No one knows it all