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Nobody should hate Arabs, Europeans or the so-called whiteman, its the theieves, bastards and warmongers that stole and continue to steal from Africa that one should hate.

If a so-called whitemansic is of good behaviour and has high moral standard, i will love them dearly.

Its the early Asian and Europeans vile behaviour that one should really hate.

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Olu317:
2. Hendrik Clarke: authored 'Christopher Columbus.

3. Ivan Sertima: authored 'They came before Columbus'

4. Paul Barton:authored 'A History of the African-Olmecs


The people you metioned above havent answered the purported people who populated Africa but differnwt people's might who lived in Africa such as..

The reason i posted these authors is for people as you that need to further read, study and gain an accurate understanding of history.

Some of the questions that is posed by the falsities in African history are answered by the above authors

Humanity began in Africa and then they went forward to populate the rest of the world in what is commonly known as the "Out of Africa" theory

Africans are the first people to explore and populate all the other 'continents.

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.

Africans discovered the concepts of literacy.

Africans discovered the concepts of numeracy.

Civilization began in Africa and then it proceeded to trickle out to the rest of the world.

Everyone currently living on planet Earth all descend from Africa.

For more information:

. Africa in World History by Dr Hendrik Clarke

. The African Origin of Civilisation by Cheikh Anta Diop

. Africa: mother of "Western civilization" by Yosef-Ben-Jochannan

. New dimensions in African history by Yosef-Ben-Jochannan and Dr Hendrik Clarke.

. They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America by Dr Ivan Sertima

Olu317:
1.Cheikh Anta Diop: He authored 'African origin of civilisation

You see, I don't have anything against Cheikh Anta Diop for portraying Africa continent with his perspective of Afrocentrism but, was too emotional . Instead of being objective, he overstreched his view by diminutive of different people in Africa as if they were one ethnicity, which is the reason his book is restricted to people of your like mind even if one reads for criticism. Infact his position hasn't been so true so far with the assertion of civilization being from Africa because this view has been Knocked off outrightly with evidence of radioactive dating that put Göbekli Tepe as the oldest which was founded about 11,500 years

Cheers

Diop's conclusions is used by all the sensible African historians out there.

Kindly quote who that knocked Diop's conclusions and when.

Cheikh Anta Diop is a known Africanist NOT an Afrocentric.

His works are based not on guess work, but thorough analytical and scientific analysis.


All that you state above are the ones that needs refuting because they arent based on logical conclusions, rather are loosely based on out dated Eurocentric and Asian bias.

There’s need to understand that the way Africans operate in the ancient times cannot be crosschecked by making use of Eurocentric and or Asian bias text or viewpoints.

Furthermore, the greatest significance of "Gobekli Tepe" is shroud in the myth that it supposedly the birth place of civilisation, however untrue that may seem, it's sacred significance however, is in the fact that the people who built "Gobekli Tepe" are rightfully deemed the first religious gathering to come out of Europe.

Gobekli Tepe is known as the oldest sacred site in all of Europe. Africa predates Europe.

Every sensinle historian knows that Africa predates Europe, the "Out of Africa" experience that occcured thousands upon thousands of years ago thatbled to the populstion of Asia and Europe

African historians have been proven to be more trustworthy than their Eurocentric and Asian peers.

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The Origins Of Civilisation: featuring Dr Cheikh Anta Diop (Senegalese historian, anthropologist, physicist who studied the origin of human ethnicity and pre- colonial African culture)

Olu317:
Do you actually know what Abraham means? Get Semitic knowledge and let's see how you will feel



Cheers

Abraham is a ficticious character and is of no relevance to history.

YoungLionken:
You're just trying to act intelligent, but you're actually not. It's total waste of time with you.

You can continue in your unnecessary hatred and unjustifiable bitterness against them, as it is fruitless.

No more mentions, ciao!

You are completely and utterly wrong here.

Anyone that understands history will agree with me that the main perpertuators of Colonisation and the Trans Atlantic campaign was:

(a) European war mongers
(b) Christians missionaries
(c) Jewish missionaries
(d) Christian and Jewish crusaders
(e) Arabian crusaders
(f) Traitors and defectors

All Abrahamic religions are false, fake and counterintuitive.

Daviddson:
Christianity didn't originate with Western Europe or Britain in particular. The first set of Christians were Asians. So think again. Knowledge travels. Are you saying the Indians and Arabians conquered Europe through their arithmetical inventions that the whole world has now adopted?

Mathematics is an African invention

Asia and Europe aquired the core of their knowlege of Art, Commerce, Science and Technology from Africa.

If the Christian missionaries didnt come to Africa the world would be a much better place.

Question: Who invent the Telephone ?


Answer: Lewis Lartimer and Graham bell co -invent the Telephone.

Olu317:
Honestly, It is unhealthy to position Chiekh Anta  Diop as an authority on Yoruba's history because the most prolific attention he drew to himself was his scientific line , that the ancient Egyptians were pure Nubia but never actually emphasis his research on Yoruba...

Yes, that absolutely correct and these are the same scientific and analytical proof talked about here, i posted a few books that are good to read.

Most of the historian sources are seasoned academics with various accolades in the professions of History, Archeology, Anthropology, Palentology, Biology, Morphology, Anatomical, Genetics and the other core sciences.

Its from the combination of the studies in these disciplines that help historians to identify with their timeline that outlines the bases for their studies.

p/s my reference to Diop is sourced from his book 'The African origins of Civilisation'.

Olu317:
Honestly, It is unhealthy to position Chiekh Anta  Diop as an authority on Yoruba's history because the most prolific attention he drew to himself was his scientific line , that the ancient Egyptians were pure Nubia but never actually emphasis his research on Yoruba ancestry.

Yes, that absolutely correct and these are the same scientific and analytical proof i talk about here, posted a few books that are good to read.


Lets assume these two versions of history

(a) Real History - A true account of events.

(b) Manufactured history - A fabrication of past events. A false representation of past events.

Olu317:
Even if this is true to a large extent, that Egytian were  darker skin and not Nubia from the earliest time but it was unfortunately for  Egypt that she  was conquered six affirmed or orey different times by different groups, even among them were Babylonia, Greek, Hykos , Roman etc . So what is your point of mentioning Diop when he has no knowledge of...

Kindly use Nubia opposed to the 'N' word, that word is toxic.

Egyptology is a topic everone should learm from African historians experts on the subject.

Lets assume Nubians are one of the accepted technical terms properly allowed to dominate African Egyptology, writtings.

One cannot assune the qualification of genuine African historian if one attempts to makes use of any sort of Abrahamic religious historicity in ones determinations.

Read into African history in accordance to genuine African historians, academics and scholars.


Read as many books from these type of authors:

Cheikh Anta Diop: He authored 'African origin of civilisation.

Hendrik Clarke: He authored 'Christopher Columbus..

Ivan Sertima: He authored 'They came before Columbus'

Paul Barton: He authored 'A History of the African-Olmecs

Understanding the correct and proper perspective of where Africas true place is in World History.

According to historians, 50% of World History occurs within the place they call Africa.

The study into African history proves beyond reasonable doubt that our ancestors are influencing the progress of humanity before either Asia or Europe had inhabitants.

Olu317:
Are you aware that during the conquest of Egypt ny Babylonian empire , was the reason one of the King Ammon exised? Yes, because participated in the campaign against Egypt when Isrela was vassal state uunder Babylonia. Hezekiah's descendants was then named Ammun~Amon who was fathered ny Mannaseh, who was a son to Hezekiah himself. This information is a name of a Temple in Thebes which was destroyed. In addition, many ancient papyri discovered by archaeologists point at an Egyptian origin" of Yoruba , (Tariqh Sawandi: ‘Yorubic medicine: The Art of divine herbology).'


Advice: kindly do better research without sentiment instead of emotional attachment.



Cheers

I've heard of Dr. Tariqh Sawandi and he is remarkable medical practitioner, and i love his work very well.

I dont have anything bad to say about him as an individual, a great guy.

Yet, adventure into history turns into one of those brainwashed scholar whose fundamental objective is to meet with the requirements of the Abrahamic religions.

An historian reknown for having Abrahimic religious motive, making use of those text to make most of his arguments.

The problem with using Abrahamic text as a source, makes the conclusions wrong.

Futhermore, he is an Islamic scholar, that further disqualifies him from being seen as a genuine African academic.

These type of authors are guilty of the same criminality befitting the authors of Abrahamic text themselves. Creating false an illogical narratives and trying to present it as real.

Abrahamic religions are all false, fake and counterintuitive.

There is no story from Abrahamic text that can claim to being original, if it wasn't stolen, plagerized then it was often fabricated.

Name one out of any of the famous stories peddled by the christian bible, and let me proof to you that they lack originality.

Because of the great carpet destruction of evidence in major African cities & libraries, we have been forced to believe Eurocentric versions of history, not anymore, our historians have now proven them as being fake, false and unreal.

Fake: Manufacturing history based from a fabrication of past events.e.g the historicity of Abrahamic text narratives.

False: Manufacturing history based on an incorrect perception of past events.e.g Christopher Columbus claim to have discovered America.

Unrealistic: Manufactured history based on impractical propositions and, or conclusions. e.g Eurocentric claims on the invention of literacy, Asiatic claims on the invention of numeracy.

musicwriter:
You're the one talking fallacy, please. The crusades were about who shall convert who to occupy their land, and to say it was to capture Jerusalem is to be overly simplistic. Jerusalem was just the epicenter and Europeans would have thought once captured, the neighboring countries would convert. The war extended to any where from the western Mediterranean, Turkey, and Arabia. Sometimes, the Christians had an upper hand towards the Middle east, sometimes the Muslims had an upper hand towards Europe.

Eventually, Europeans failed because ultimately the Muslims didn't convert and ,therefore, were not defeated. To defeat you means to conquer your belief system. Whoever conquers what your ancestors believed, had made you a slave to what he believe. You need to take back your mind. God never told anybody to give you Christianity, rather it was invented and forced down on you by a human being like you. The purpose is to shutdown your critical, reasoning, questioning mind.

And if you say the British didn't force Africans to convert to Christianity, we can all agree that you don't know what you're talking about.

Precisely, you are completely accurate with your analysis.

Oil dey your head

Olu317:
Obviously you are absolutely ignorant of the fact that Tariqh Sawandi says...

Tariqh Sawandi is one of them Islamic scholar that remain disconnected from reality; his attempt to try and use Abrahamic historicity narratives to determine African history. Peddling a false and nonsensical claims on history.

All the writers that make such claims have always been found to be of Abrahamic religious background.

The evidence given by people who claim that Yoruba migrated into Africa is unverifiable. Mostly based on foreign rhetoric and false perceptions are known to us as Abrahamic historiographies and historicities.

Its impossible for Yoruba to have migrate from the Middle East due to the fact that when the Yoruba and other West Africans are living in their glourious communities, there was no people living in what is now Asia.

Olu317:
Bro, I can't find the West Africa you desire so much! Perhaps, you have alternate researchers from Africa with a better radioactive dating .

Presicely the reason
i advice you to go and read the following books on African history:

.The West Africansic :from prehistoric times to present by Toyin Falola.

.The African Origin of Civilisation by Cheikh Anta Diop

.The History of the West African sic: From the Earliest Times to the Beginning of the British Protectorate by Samuel Johnson.

Olu317:
...The 350 bce. was based o speculation by Folster in Ozanne 1969:32,which was cited by both Ogundiran (2002, p.c. and Drewal (2009:80 . And has been rejected by Frank Willett (2004) and others for lack of supporting scientific evidence.

Amujale:
Frank Willet is a Eurocentric liar and faker bro.

Furthermore,  you seem to be misconstruing my post, quoting a third party, when my reference is clearly cited as:

Ogundiran's own journal as one of the authors of a Cambridge University publication titled 'History in Africa'. Vol. 28 (2001), pp. 203-223.

I have made no mention of either Foster or Drewal.
How have you managed to misconcrue the points made here.

morpheus24:
You haven't fixed the Africa you are living in and you are inviting African Diasporans living in semi better structures.

I laugh in Hausa!

Yes, but African Diasporans returning to their home might just lead to a great fix.

Jayvarley:
...This is the reason why blacks of the diaspora make the best athletes/Sprinters today

Hussein Bolt is the Jamaican that holds the world record for the 100 metres sprint race.

Most arent taught about the Trans Atlantic horrors, its Colonisation rather that Western education teaches.

Beause of the great carpet destruction of evidence in major continental cities & libraries, we have been forced to believe Eurocentric versions of history, not anymore, our historians have proven them as being fake, false and unreal.

Continue to educate those that arent aware that the evils of Colonialism is not disconnected from the evils of the Trans Atlantic campaign.

The same way i would say to you that the evils of the Trans Atlantic campaign is not disconnected from the evils of Colonisation.

Re-educate yourself on African history.

Never forget that we are all one big family.

It's inevitable that African diaspora will be given their proper continental rights i.e citizenship, trade, work e.t.c

Given that the talk is about those of them that have been found to have passed the necessary requirements and shown to being law abiding citizens, then, they should be allowed to qualify for adoption into the appropriate ethnicity.

The World will be a better place without the negative influence of European and West Asian influence on African affairs.

African historians are now able to determine the specific periods when every ethnic group moved out of Africa, are able to determine when the current stock of Asians and Australasians left the continent and their state of mind at the time.

According to the academics on Paleoclimatic history,  the "Out of Africa" experience occurs during the period denoting the Wurum Inter-Stadio.

All the available analytical and scientific proof avialable to us enables these conclusions:

Humanity began in Africa and then they went forward to populate the rest of the world in what is commonly known as the "Out of Africa" phenomenon.

During the above events, Africans are the first people to explore and populate all the other 'continents.

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.

Africans discovered the concepts of literacy.

Africans discovered the concepts of numeracy.

Civilization began in Africa and then it proceeded to trickle out to the rest of the world.

Everyone currently living on planet Earth all descend from Africa.

For more information:

. Africa in World History by Dr Hendrik Clarke

. The African Origin of Civilisation by Cheikh Anta Diop

. Africa: mother of "Western civilization" by Yosef-Ben-Jochannan

. New dimensions in African history by Yosef-Ben-Jochannan and Dr Hendrik Clarke.

. They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America by Dr Ivan Sertima

Humanity began in Africa and then our ancestors went on to populate the rest of the world.

Africans are the first people to explore and populate all the other 'continents.

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.

Africans discovered the concepts of literacy.

Africans discovered the concepts of numeracy.

Civilization began in Africa and then it proceeded to trickle out to the rest of the world.

Everyone currently living on planet Earth all descend from African ethnicities.

For more information:

. Africa in World History by Dr Hendrik Clarke

. The African Origin of Civilisation by Cheikh Anta Diop

. Africa: mother of "Western civilization" by Yosef-Ben-Jochannan

. New dimensions in African history by Yosef-Ben-Jochannan and Dr Hendrik Clarke.

. They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America by Dr Ivan Sertima

The discourse on Asian history is primarily exclusive to Asian writers.

The discourse on European history is primarily exclusive to European writers.

African history is primarily being concocted by both Asian fundamentalist and Eurocentric writers, that is where all of us (you and I) come in to put things back into their proper perspective for the benefit of the next generations and our own overstanding.


For more information read:

They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America
African Presence in Early America
Blacks in Science: Ancient and Modern (Journal of African Civilizations)
African Presence in Early Europe (Journal of African Civilizations)
African Presence in Early Asia

All written by Dr Ivan Sertima.

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Link -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IywJ1DGuecY

Because of the great carpet destruction of evidence in major African cities & libraries, we have been forced to believe Eurocentric versions of history, not anymore, our historians have now proven them as being fake, false and unreal.

Fake: Manufacturing history based from a fabrication of past events.e.g the historicity of Abrahamic text narratives.

False: Manufacturing history based on an incorrect perception of past events.e.g Christopher Columbus claim to have discovered America.

Unrealistic: Manufactured history based on impractical propositions and, or conclusions. e.g Eurocentric claims on the invention of literacy, Asiatic claims on the invention of numeracy.

Just to be clear, i totally disagree with the conclusion reached by OP's Jamaican friend.

FCBboy:
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You are making no sense.

I cannot see you refuting anything written.

franchasng:
Nigerian guys are hardworking...

Here is something we can agree on.

franchasng:
white race (Caucasian) have superior science & technology invention intelligence more than any other human race. It is not by their making, it is nature's gift to them. To catch up with them, you need to learn from them or steal the knowledge from them, either ways.

Nonsesne.

You sound the same as a "white supremacist", why cant you understand simple thing now.

Your analysis is wrong.

Africans dont need to catch up with anyone but to realise who we are.

The problem is mainly derived from the misunderstanding of the importance of local customs and traditions and how they are meant to relate to human development.

Once we can prioritise our languages and other social norms, use them to educate ourselves, that will re-create our own unique technological advanced enviroment.

Africans do not need to source our education out to noone.

Get rid of the foreign languages, manufactured religions and foreign rhetorical narrative.

Pave the way for localised technological development

Currently, Africans and their Diaspora are responsible for the more relevant inventions in today's world.

Africans invented the light bulb, telephone, cellular phone, improved systems partaining to refridgerators, air-condition, railway locomotive devices, mobile phones, PC, internet e.t.c

Africans contribution to modern technologies tops the global rankings.

Furthermore, Africans are responsible for most of the greatest human achievements of all time.