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gensteejay:
Please, do you have soft copies of this book?

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Philip Emeagwali wins the 1989 Gordon Bell Prize. The Gordon Bell Prize is an award partaining to super computers.

Philip's inventions are credited with being responsible for creating the "Internet".

Evangkatsoulis:
Hahahaha. See inventions. LMAO

I praise all our reknowned scientist for taking their careers to the 'next level' despite adversity.

Always think back everytime you make use of your cell phone that a black man invents the first phone and a black woman enhanced the modern version with inventing Caller ID, Call waiting and the portable fax.


Kindly go and study more on Africans in the U.S.A and tbeir over 100,000 inventions. Some correctly had their names documented correctly, however, due to the draconian laws at the time, most AA inventors had work(s) credited to someone else.

Their is a list of some of the black scientist that are credited with their inventions somewhere above, kindly read and study as many of them as you can.

bilms:
Does Ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

This is an important question needing knowledgeable answer.

Kindly shed more light on this

In as much that, the term "Idol" is an immure and derogatory construct that has no real meaning outside of Abrahamic text.

Ifa does not support idol worshiping.

Ifa supports the feeling of deep respect and admiration towards the Orisa.

'Idol worship' is an ancient Asian and ancient Eurocentric Crusader's terminology that they use to discriminate against anyone that does not belong to their religious sect.

The Africa pyche does not recognise such terminology as "Idol worship", as it does not translate correctly.

The people that history records as being Idol worshipers are found in ancient Arabia, ancient Greece, Persia and ancient Roman communities.

iRyan:
Whats funny is that these stories predates Christianity yet Christians would be yapping on how other religions copied their holy books from them

Exactly, and it takes no effort for anyone to verify our claims.

Olu317:
Obviously you are not who you posit you are ,reason being that cuneiform, pictographs, tablets affirm to a lot of things about the Hebrew.

How is it that the authors of Abrahamic text make false claims.

Olu317:
Even Quran testified to the existence of the Hebrew.

They peddle similar false stories.They are implicated by each other.

Olu317:
All the information did nt have a place called Africa as you even painted the African continent, until the conqueror groups arrived from Europe to give the name out.

Those conquerors are liars, fakers and thieves.

Africans are living in fantastic conditions before those fools and fakers came and brought their unprovoked trouble.

That is the reason we need to focus on real history and not the fakery peddled by Abrahamic text.

Olu317:
Not! It is because you do have absolute love for Africa supremacy and play down western people's authenticity of classical Hebrew. Kindly desist from positing incorrect information because of so claimed personality of yours This shared information will soon bring some of us out to the fore But before that let me posit the following questions so that you can answer them

1.Do you know the Yoruba ancestor known as Aram fe /Oram fe actually lived in the middlerast?

2. Do you know eyphod is ifaodu in the Bible ?

3. Do you know ela is actually the same meaning as Hebrew's ela?

4. Do you know Orisha is having the same meaning in the Bible?

5. Do you know Esu is actually the same meaning in the Hebrew Bible which is different from the Yoruba's Bible's ignorant meaning by 1840s upward yoruba Christians?

6. Do you know Hebrew satan is the same meaning as Yoruba's sota?

7. Do you know one of the Hebrew's name know as Eloah is the same as yoruba élohun( Oyo's olohun)?

8. Do you know melo in Yoruba is the same meaning as the Hebrew's mel-o?

9.Do you know the yoruba's Orún is the same as the Hebrew's or?

10. Do you know Yoruba's pè is also the same in meaning with Hebrew's peh(to call)?

אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה . 11

The above were found to be the first of three responses given to Moses when he asks for God's name in the Book of Exodus 3:14. The King James Version of the Bible translates the Hebrew as "I Am that I Am" and uses it as a proper name for God......

But do you these meaning is actually different from the interpretation given to it?

If you are in doubt, Kindly verify my statement through thorough studying of the early Hebrew letters/alphabets and her meaning these aren't Yoruba language.


Contrary to your view, Moses is as real as the breadth in your body!.



Cheers

Moses is a ficticious character.

There is no record of a person called Moses that drowned a Pharaoh in all of Ancient Egypt.

That story is copied from African religious text and bastardised by Romans aristocrats.

First century Roman aristocrats authored the Christian Bible.

Yoruba predates the Hebrew language.

Hebrew is supposed to be a semetic language.

The main significance of Hebrew language is held within its connection with various manufactured religions, take that away, and it too is fake.

Because of the great carpet destruction of evidence in major African cities & libraries, we have been forced to believe Eurocentric version of African history.

Dr. Ivan Van Sertima was one of the first to gain momentum about the researched that debunks this as one of histories great falsities, now it is an open and shut case that the Western world still deny; their assumption that Africans are always stagnant and refuse to accept Africas role in the development of human existence and civilisation as a whole. The first pyramid to appear at Leventa is in the Americas.

Black Africans are said to be associated with the "Olmec" an ancient civilization that existed during the Egyptian dynasty. There are massive statues that were found in South America known as the "Collossal Heads" that depict black African warriors in full regalia.

Ancien Egyptians were Africans (Nubians were powerful, wealthy and intelligient people who controlled large territories along the Nile) that called the land Kemet; the first pharoahs had pure African blood furthermore, Piankhi, Shabaka I, Shakatak, Taharka and Tanutamun were all black Africans.

The Carrebean historian Richard B Moore says African
history must be looked at anew and seen in its true relationship to world history.


All they would have us call world history today, are only refering to a Eurocentric account on the rise of Asia & Europe as they successfully came out of Africa's dominance or are fabrications of real history.

For more information read:

They Came Before Columbus: The African Presence in Ancient America
African Presence in Early America
Blacks in Science: Ancient and Modern (Journal of African Civilizations)
African Presence in Early Europe (Journal of African Civilizations)
African Presence in Early Asia

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There is so much to learn about ourselves and surroundings yet we are being taught NOT to think; their is no philosophy that can compete with the yearn to progress in life.

We dont need to be saved by anyone or anything because God has already given that to us countless times and i dont see that stopping anytime soon.

We dont need to repent because We are NOT a guilty people.

We are NOT waiting for a white or tanned man to come an eliviate US from suffering because thats just NONSENSICAL if a white or tanned man was going to descend from the skies to eliviate anyone, the first people on the list would be those that look like HIM.

We dont need to face anywhere during petition but our immediate solvable problems.

We dont need salvation because we are saved the day we are allowed into the world.

All the ethics and moral guidelines we need to navigate the planet Earth is already present in our own understandings.

Our ancestors, heroes and saviours deserve nothing more than the best reception.

What is the point in living for somebody elses objectives.

There is so much work to be done, and yet little effort awarded to a cause.

Let us invoke the spirit of our local heroes, in everything that we partake.

There's the need to operate as if our world has been stolen and our AIM is always to re-take it.

Humanity began in Africa and then our ancestors went on to populate the rest of the world.

Africans are native to all the continents, that is to say, ancient Africans are the first people to explore and populate all the other 'continents.

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.

Africans discovered the concepts of literacy.

Africans discovered the concepts of numeracy.

Civilization began in Africa and then it proceeded to trickle out to the rest of the world.

verifiablefacts:
so Torah(the book of Moses) that was before the bible was copied from the Bible?

That is absolutely correct; the Christian bible was commisioned by the Romans before the Early Crusaders comminsioned their Torah.

Amujale:
I can honestly say that the Romans wrote the bible in a way that put their characters living in an earlier period in time to the actual one they wrote from.....

Therefore, just as the Romans wrote their text pretending they were living in an earlier period , so did the Early Crusaders.

The Early Crusaders began to copy the fake and falsified Roman text in order to create their Torah.

According to history, Christianity was invented before Judaism. Its a rare and suspicious case of cause towards a means, instead of it being a means to a cause

That is another reason one can easily come to the conclusion that most of the Abrahamic text are fake, false and counterintuitive.

sammhi:
Till today the Jewish religion book is sometimes called mosaic law .. as derived from Moses..

Mosaic Law or the Ten commandments are copied from KM.Tic laws of Ma'at.

These are the 42 ancient African laws of Ma'at:

I have not committed sin.
I have not committed robbery with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have not slain men or women.
I have not stolen food.
I have not swindled offerings.
I have not stolen from God/Goddess.
I have not told lies.
I have not carried away food.
I have not cursed.
I have not closed my ears to truth.
I have not committed adultery.
I have not made anyone cry.
I have not felt sorrow without reason.
I have not assaulted anyone.
I am not deceitful.
I have not stolen anyone’s land.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have not falsely accused anyone.
I have not been angry without reason.
I have not seduced anyone’s wife.
I have not polluted myself.
I have not terrorized anyone.
I have not disobeyed the Law.
I have not been exclusively angry.
I have not cursed God/Goddess.
I have not behaved with violence.
I have not caused disruption of peace.
I have not acted hastily or without thought.
I have not overstepped my boundaries of concern.
I have not exaggerated my words when speaking.
I have not worked evil.
I have not used evil thoughts, words or deeds.
I have not polluted the water.
I have not spoken angrily or arrogantly.
I have not cursed anyone in thought, word or deeds.
I have not placed myself on a pedestal.
I have not stolen what belongs to God/Goddess.
I have not stolen from or disrespected the deceased.
I have not taken food from a child.
I have not acted with insolence.
I have not destroyed property belonging to God/Goddess.

These are the ancient laws from where the authors of Abrahamic text copied their so-called Mosaic commandments.

sammhi:
Moses never existed yet Muslims , Jews and Christians believe in him that about 5bn people!
Till today the Jewish religion book is sometimes called mosaic law .. as derived from Moses
Stop believing all these atheist lies you are reading on the net !

Stop reading about fake history, the history of the Jews is a fake and made up history; instead go and study African history with respect to African historians.

If Moses really existed, Imhotep and the other African scientist would have definately made a record of his life; but they didnt, and so that is the simple proof that he is a made-up character; never really existed.

There is no record of a Moses character that part the sea and drowned a Pharaoh anywhere in all of Ancient Egypt. The Moses story is based on complete and utter fakery.

Moses is a fictitious chatacter.

Even the so-called Mosaic laws are copied from African religious concepts; copied from the 42 ancient African laws of Ma'at. The Roman authors of Abrahamic text fabricated and plagerised most of their stories, including that of Moses.

How is it that Moses missed the Great Pyramids on the Giza complex?

How did he miss the Great Sphinx?

verifiablefacts:
so Torah(the book of Moses) that was before the bible was copied from the Bible?

Moses never existed in the way Abrahamic text would have you believe.

Moses is a fictitious character.

How is it that Moses missed the Great Pyramids on the Giza complex?

How did he miss the Great Sphinx?

There is no historical records of a Moses character that supposedly drowned a Pharaoh in the Red sea.

That is fake news.

Amujale:
.....The Irony of that particular storyline is that Pharaoh Ramese the second is considered to be one of Ancient Egypt's greatest Monarch.

The Battle of Kadesh clearly states that Pharaoh Ramses beat down and forced a hostile army into the sea.

And that story seems to have been bastardised to the greatest extent.

Many of the hostile armies are depicted to have been drowned by the forces of the warrior-king Pharaoh as depicted in the 20th century re-copy.


Ramses II in his chariot at the Battle of Kadesh (battle between the Egyptians and the Hittites of Muwatalli II, took place in 1274 BCE). Image is dated 1285 BCE

The Jesus character was invented by the Romans

He takes out of various older characters, the most popular is Horus and this due to the striking characteristics they both possess.

The obvious one is the Mother-Child relationship,

Isis and Horus
Mary and Jesus

Then you have them using similar terminology:

"I am Horus in glory . . . I am the Lord of the Light . . . I am the victorious one . . . I am the heir of endless time . . . I, even I, am he that knoweth the path of heaven"


Then you have the "Ankh", according to Ancient Egyptians is supposed to be the symbol of re-birth or reincarnation. The one Horus is holding in the depiction below.

The authors of Abrahamic text plagerized Ancient Egyptian text and religious concepts as they did with various many others.

These similar pattern is also identified with relationships between Jesus and Krishna, Jesus and Buddha e.t.c

Oshin56:
Whether you are a Muslim,Christian, freemason, traditional. The most important aspect of this religion is love your neighbor as yourself, Those books didn't indicate whether your neighbor most be from religion, ...

I agree with the spirit of your article here.

Oshin56:
because those author of the book knows that there religions is not the only one that exist

Yet they make false claims and assertions that goes against all logic and common sense.

For example, everyone knows that humanity began in Africa.

Africa is the oldest out of all the continents.

Africans are native to all of the continents.

Civilization began in Africa.

The Nile Valley is famous for the Great Sphinx and Great Pyramids on the Giza complex.

The Nile Valley civilisation represents a staggering 5% of continental history.

These are the truths that the authors of Abrahamc text failed to realise whilst creating their fantasy stories.

They instead turned history upside down whilst trying to bastardise the real heroes.

Africans got their civilization before Arabia, Greece or Rome. That is to say, African civilization predates those of Arabia, Greece or Rome.

The authors of Abrahamic text are aristocrats, highly educated and decorated Roman citizens, are aware of the above truth, yet, eventhough they went on to plagerise much of their creation story directly out of KM.Tic text, they successfully bastardised their source, changed the names of the characters and added it to their collection.

These are the twisted tricks the Roman's made use of when authoring these books.

Benekruku:
ABORU ABOYE BO SISE!

Ifa a gbe o!

Ase! ogbo ato

leksite120:
Have u read d Quran at all? U wil knw kaki no b leather, they r whole different

They have too many contextual similarities, you aren't fooling anyone.

That is the reason they are combined with the Torah to be known as Abrahamic text.

aremuforlife:
There are lots of ODU in IFA that relate to some stories in both Quran and Bibles.

That is simply because both the Quran and the Christian Bible plagiarised contents from Odu IFA.
Ela is a typical example.

musicwriter:
...Ifa's virgin story is actually older than the bible and the kuran...

African spirituality is the only verifiable religious concepts present in the world today, all other versions are seen as derivatives, false or fake.

musicwriter:
Didn't see this thread on time.

The story of a virgin mother giving birth to a son of God is actually an African story hijacked by Europeans. A long time before Jesus (who never existed) Isis was a virgin mother in Africa who gave birth to Horus the son of God. Even before Horus there was Osiris- the first resurrection story ever. So, Ifa's virgin birth story is actually older than the bible and koran.

The following books are for anybody who want to research more about the origin of Christianity.

Bible myths and their parallel in other religions- T.W Doane
Christianity before Christ- John G Jackson
The sixteen crucified saviors- Karsey Graves
101 Myths of the Bible: How ancient scribes invented biblical history- Gary Greenberg
NAILED: Ten Christian myths that show Jesus never existed at all- David Fitzgerald.
Myth and ritual in Christianity- Alan Watts
Anacalypsis- Godfrey Higgins

And if you don't have time and want a summary, the below documentary and lecture explains the African origin of Christianity, and all other religions for that matter.

The origin of all religions - Dr. Robert Bauval
How Europeans hijacked African spirituality to control the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NisfS4x1R4

The origin of all religions - Dr. James Small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8qZQ_SkLw

Teach!

All manufactured religions are false, fake and counterintuitive.

gensteejay:
Just like Qur'an is plagiarized from the Bible, the Bible is also plagiarized from the holy books of much older religions, especially the ancient religion of Egypt.

Yes, I totally agree with you.

The Christian Bible and the Quaran are both implicated by each other.

hopefulLandlord:
there is nothing in all of Egypt's history, which mentions a Pharoah who perished by drowning in pursuit of millions...

Exactly, you absolutely correct here, yet, the Irony of that particular storyline is that Pharaoh Ramese the second is considered to be one of Ancient Egypt's greatest Monarch.

The Battle of Kadesh clearly states that Pharaoh Ramses beat down and forced a hostile army into the sea.

And that story seems to have been bastardised to the greatest extent.

Many of the hostile armies are depicted to have been drowned by the forces of the warrior-king Pharaoh as depicted in the 20th century re-copy.


Ramses II in his chariot at the Battle of Kadesh (battle between the Egyptians and the Hittites of Muwatalli II, took place in 1274 BCE). Image is dated 1285 BCE

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.
Africa owns the first verbal and written languages.
Civilization began in Africa and then, they proceeded to give their civilization to the rest of the world.

Humanity began in Africa and our ancestors went on to populate the rest of the world.

During those times, the only people living in the entire world are within what they now call the African continent and are all black, brown and bronze people.

African spirituality is the only verifiable religious concepts present in the world today, all other versions are seen as derivatives, false or fake.

The truth is that we are all being conned by first century Roman aristocrats and highly educated Ancient Islamic scholars into believing ficticious characters from inside their chosen and personal biblographies.

All those Abrahamic religious text are not what they claims to be, instead they are biblographies, a compilation of various stories and typologies from accross the globe, the contents which have been re-packaged, sex-ed up or outrightly fabricated.

Now is the time to STOP and THINK.

Not so, that is what the authors of Abrahamic text would want you to believe.

In actual fact, Rome predates both Christianity and Judaism.

Regardless of what Abrahamic text says, Judaism is a relatively new religion.

When the Eurocentric Crusaders were busy stealing and desecrating religious concepts around the world, there was no such religion called Judaism or Christianity

Christianity was manufactured by Rome before Judaism later became a religion after the renassance.

Therefore, Rome manufactured Christianity, and the early Crusaders manufactured Judaism.

The Muhammedian movement created Islam to protect the Arabs from continuous philosophical domination by Rome.

Its a typical case of cause to have a means instead of "means to a cause".

Its all a massive fabrication.

A complete and utter CON.

ScotMisile:
Abrahamic story

That story is originally of ancient Palestine, one that has been redacted and fabricated.

For instance, in the original story, Abraham was said to have visited Egypt, was given audience to the Pharaoh.

Much of the original story wasn't able to make it to the publishers as was the final decisions of the Roman aristocrats that authored these books.

Conclusion, that story is not original to the neither the Jews nor the Romans.

ScotMisile:
.....

Name one out of any of the famous stories peddled by the Abrahamic text, and let me proof to you that they lack originality.

All manufactured religions are fake, false, counterintuitive and unfit for purpose.

All manufactured religions acquire much of their religious concepts from Africa.

During the heights of the Roman Empire all of Europe and many parts of Asia are said to have worshipped African divinities. e.g Isis and Horus

After the Roman invasion of KM.T, then their Emperor commissioned the bibliography that copied much of Africas divinities into their newly manufactured religions.

African ancestors invented the concept of religion, Asian and Europeans stole these concepts so as to create they own version of African spirituality.

ScotMisile:
.....

And then after the fall of the Roman Empire, the Early Crusaders got their hands on it.

They continued in the same way as the Romans, and then took it to another new level.

Similar to the Roman's, getting people to accept their gospels from behind the tip of their swords, they would later replicate these tactics behind the barrell of a gun.

These barbaric actions persisted into the 20th century.

ScotMisile:
.....

I can honestly say that the Romans wrote the bible in a way that put their characters living in an earlier period in time to the actual one they wrote from.

They made numerous mistakes, the main mistake was their lack of knowledge of facts, dates, timeline and chronology.

Because they spent all their time copying, stealing and desecrating other peoples sacred sites, they misinterpreted numerous facts and figures.

Infact, much of the Abrahamic text was written on the move.

After they overwhelmed their enemies, they would sack a city of its riches and later move to steal all their sacred text and monuments.

Then, they would later force the local priest and or devotees to interprete their text. These text and concepts would later be incoporated into their biblography.

There are countless nations that the Roman armies actually wiped off the face of the Earth, purposefully meaning to leave no trace of their existence.

As each military campaign passed, the stories grew larger and lager. The Emperor became adicted to these story collecting that he launch wars based on the monetary and spiritual spoils of his foes.

Before long, the Emperor had himself the bible.

Most of these stories are copied from ancient philosophies and concepts from around the globe, with the authors creating their own characters and storylines, in some instances, the Romans didnt bother to change the names of the main chatacters of the stolen stories.
Some are simply fabricated or made up.

The Emperor later used these same compilation of text to first subdue rebellious factions and later to subdue his peasants so that they continued to pay their taxes.