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plaetton:
Another baloney.
Cant you just see the glowing and glaring contradictions in your statement?
What you wrote above is probably the most moronic , most contradictory, the most meaningless statement ever uttered by a christian.

It clearly demonstrates, in no small measure, that you don't even have a clue about you believe and don't believe.
Like the typical religiotard, you are just making things up as go, albeit, with no clear pattern.

Can i ask you? are you purposely being stupid?

This is how people speak when they are without divine authority. Presumptuous.

catholicism= big time crap.

Attention seekers everywhere...

ayoku777:
You said free will is a lie from hell. Meaning even our "choices" are God's counsel, much like a "dummy freewill".

Do you believe this scriptures?

2Peter 3v9 -The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that ANY SHOULD PERISH, but that ALL should come to REPENTANCE.

Do you believe God has a chosen people? If God wants to save everybody as you think why are there many scriptures that talk about those He has chosen unto salvation? 1Peter2:9, John 15:16, Jeremiah 1:5, Deut 14:2, Ephesians 1:3,4, 2 Thess 2:14, Isaiah 43:1-3,10, 1Thess 1:4, Galatians1:15-16,etc. Can scripture contradict itself? That God wants to save everybody and also a select people is impossible and devoid of logic.

If it has been explicitly stated that God has from the beginning chosen some to salvation 2Thess 2:13 and we come across the bible verses you quoted that seem to contradict the clear teaching of election, do we play along treacherously, force ourselves to interpret them independently, separately from others and/or pretend like other scriptures do not exist?

ayoku777:
Do you agree according to this scripture that God is not willing that any should perish?

Another scripture;

1Timothy 2v3-4 -For this is good and acceptable in ther sight of God our saviour; who will have ALL MEN SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Do you agree with this scripture also that its God good and acceptable will to have ALL MEN SAVED?

Do you agree or you disagree?

Now if God wants all men saved and none to perish, why then are many not saved and many have perished? If according to you man has no freewill and only God's counsel is done.

You will answer all these questions yourself when you understand that salvation is not by choice but by grace according to God's election.

Whobedatte:
R u an gnostic or atheist?

Christian.

fairygeh:
Lie,lie lies.the reason is most guys are boring, asking the same set of questions, how are you? How was ur night? How is work going bla bla bla.Cannot strike an interesting conversation

Chat is a bore with most naija guys. The same question everyday! mehnnnnnnn i resemble robot?

AHOY147:
How would anyone justify that Islam is a religion of peace. How?

Surah 9: 123 "O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep theirduty [unto Him]. "

Say no to APC

Say no to Jihadist

GEJ till 2019

islam is of the devil and so is "modern day" christianity.

The reason men ascribe freewill to themselves is because they do not know how depraved they are of good. We are sin ourselves. Spiritually dead. Can't hear or see the things of God. A dead man can do nothing. He has to be quickened. Eph 2.

God's foreknowledge according to His eternal decree determines our "choices" not the other way around.

Free will is a lie from the pit of hell. Men always want to have a sense of control in everything and they bring this same attitude to Christianity. Little do they know that God is sovereign and in control of every thing in the universe including their closely guarded god they call free will. Did i contradict myself? well the message is not lost.

ayoku777:
You most probably have not carefully read through all I've been saying.

I read through dear and what you are trying to say is that God looked down the corridors of time and saw how everyman will express his/her supposed "freewill" irrespective of His predetermined will. In other words, God's foreknowledge is dependent on what men would do and not on His determinate counsel.

I love the fact that you insist on scriptural definition of terms but have you checked how "know, knew, foreknowledge" are used in the scripture. We cannot just assume that these words signify a simple cognition. Ex 33:17, Deut9:24, Jeremiah 1:5, Hosea 8:4, Amos 3:2, Matt 7:23, John10:14, 2 Tim 2:19,etc.

Notice a similarity here, all the scriptures talk about not a knowing of things/events but of people!

God knows/ foreknows people when we follow scriptural application to understand foreknowledge.

Another thing to take note of is that foreknowledge is more than a mere knowing before, that's peripheral, the scriptural usage is that of intimacy and relationship. For e.g matt 7:23 Jesus said he never knew the false converts speaks more of a lack of love for, appointment of this people.

ayoku777:
God's foreknowledge of a thing can never be wrong and I've never said it can. But I've maintained that foreknowledge is not predestination. That God knows what you will do doesn't mean He's the one that predestined you to do it.

Yes God's foreknowledge cannot be wrong. But do look out for the scriptural definition of that word and its application. I beg of you. There is a thin line between Predestination and foreknowledge. The object of God foreknowing is not on man's action but on God's predetermined will. "Known unto God are all His works from the beginning of the world." Acts 15:18.

Man has a will but that will is in bondage to corruption. Enslaved to sin! not free! he acts within this constitution! all his choices are evil before God! He has the responsibility to do good but is depraved of the power to do so in and of himself.

ayoku777:
So you believe "freewill" is a lie and man has no freewill over his choices?

Yes freewill is heresy. It dethrones God and enthrones man. Can't you see? if man can choose good, then there is room for boasting! but look at the basics of our faith says salvation is by grace Eph 2:8.

ayoku777:
Let me ask you. Is it God that predestines people to go to hell, or they go there by the choices of their own freewill?

All men as a result of their wicked nature choose death over life. Not only that we wont choose God, we cant choose Him! if God does not quicken us, we will all like wise perish.

Cc: ayoku777

Excuse me, are you saying God's foreknowledge of events is uncertain?

For the record: Its either God is in charge or man is!

You know about Jacob and Esau right?

what did the scripture say about them: one was loved and the other hated, even before they were born or did anything anything good or bad. It was for God's election to stand! Romans 9:13.

Do you realise this "free will" lie makes God seem weak?

My phone isn't in good condition now, will be back.

Vock:
My problem is that you should stop acting as a mouthpiece for the other gender, stop revealing us

"stop revealing us" i wonder what this means

barcanista:
A passionate you mean? Well not anymore

hehehe the change caught up with you on time but in another way. I wonder what made you change your mind.

barcanista:
I don't know why some people are so pained...

You used to be a radical buharian!

Kachisbarbie:
Aii.
I guess that's all, Sir.
Nice meeting you.


Lol.
The truth is, if you wanna carry my matter for head. You might have high-bp.



hahaha.
I always watch them from the sidelines scream foul @ the slightest thing.
Funny sets.

Tribal bigot.

Nwogbe:
Is he a jehovah's witness

see question o

2Timothy 2:13: "If we are faithless he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself."

This verse always give me great comfort when i stray.

The reason we continue on the path of righteousness and holiness is because God is faithful!

"we" will all be lost if our standing right with God depends on how faithful we are!

Maamin:
So now you are a female?

And who are you to judge them by calling them false teachers?

Well am female and you are just discovering.

You can as well ask Paul, Peter and the rest why they called this kind of men false teachers.

Bosch10:
pls shed more light on that,i am enjoying you.

Okay. Let me put it this way: are you trusting your works,effort, 'ability' to keep the law/ sacraments or you are holding on to what Christ finished on the cross?

Works? or Grace?

SNCOQ3:
#seconded

Soldiers of Christ need no cage.

Exactly.

Bosch10:
i dont get u,but am a xtian who is born again

Whose righteousness are you leaning on. Yours or the Christ's imputed righteousness? Your thread gives the impression that you are trusting your "good" works? what say you?

Q: Why do tares make a lot of noise?
A: Well their father mr devil is a noise maker what do you expect?

Q: Why do tares always lie that they've been to heaven?
A: Cos that's the only way they can draw the simple minded who care not for the state of their souls before God but how much attention and praise they can get for themselves in their rotten state of self righteousness.

iPopAlomo:
You see why I'm demanding a thread for people like you... 'thy holier than thou'

the founder of the internet is an atheist... and here you are... on his platform...

I don't need or rather we don't need any special thread to share our faith. There is absolutely nothing to hide my friend cos our gospel brings light to men and save the most unworthy of all men. So keep your demands to yourself.

Your muslim brothers need to lock up cos they are afraid of being exposed if put to test. That's what feasting with the devil does to you.

The founder of the internet is an atheist? oh really? i guess you expect me to back off the net right? here is a surprise for you, God can use whoever, whatever to fulfill His determined will on earth, to reach out to this dying world and to unite His sheep all over the world.

Raw#

You mean their conversion from one false religion to false teachers in Christendom who "privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."?

And this the sorry consequence of putting this men on the pedestal:

"And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the truth shall be evil spoken of.

And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgement now for a long time slumbereth not."
2Peter 2:1-3.

OP your greatest worry should be this "am i really a Christian?"

There can never be an agreement between islam and Christianity. The god of islam is a non existing god.

They go to this god through their blood-sucking prophet mohammed. We worship the true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob through Jesus Christ our LORD. This is the raw truth, Mr.

If you want a union with christians, there are so many false christians out their blinded by vain philosophy, deceit, secularism, ecumenism, lies, misrepresentation of the true God who may not hesitate to receive you with open arms.

Single.

freecocoa:
Thats how it's supposed to be, don't let a man walk all over you in the name of "na man get house". A woman can own a house too, many women own houses.

I can co-own the house with him if its something i have to do but as the head of the house he will still be in charge of the whole house. I don't buy the business of owning a house if am married.

My primary responsibility is to make my home, home and not work my self up over some petty thing as owning a house.

But thanks for your concern

freecocoa:
This is really sad, so you can't/won't co-own the house with your hubby?

I can.

Shollypopzz:
Where did you get your statistics from? Your question is offensive.

apologies if i offended you. Sorry.

Its something i don't see often.