₦airaland Forum

NNVanguard:
I never knew that graduation from Quran school is a great achievement that calls for fun fare.

So many issues in this country

JideAmuGiaka:
Sambisa must be the London of the North if this lass have been there this long and remain fresh like this.

idupaul:
Thank God for what , why does Buhari want to heat up the polity in 2017 ..I pray this is a hoax

Candycrusher:
i feel sorry for her punny. 15 inches royal highness dick every night for a girl who should be getting ready to gain admission into higher institution. The north and their religion are anti-women

BraniacX:
In as much as i try resisting the urge to insult you, i must admit that i will happily fail in that regard and more so, do so with gusto!!

Are you really as daft as you portray yourself to be?

You cite an article you want me to believe saying or implying that the cause of the current massacre of "exclusively southern, christian, non-hausa kaduna indigenous residents mostly, women, children and the elderly" is in revenge for according to you, ”the massacre of thousands of hausa/fulani in zangon kataf" while the article you use as reference mentions less than a hundred dead from official accounts and the dead to be from both sides of the conflict, even if we use that event as the fulcrum from which future events are determined, it would seem the first to resort to actual violence were the hausa/fulani's and the first casualty being a young christian indegene! If you weren't really daft you'll never make a claim of ”objectivity" and before you spout the "neither are you" retort, it would interest you that i didn't make that claim as i tacitly admitted my bias, my reason why and my resort to using logical reasoning to make deductions, theories and conclusions in that order!
If it were not for your claims to "intelligence" and "objectivity" your apparent daftness would be laughable but as it is, i find it very depressing to have to engage you in this exchange!

More so, your article mentioned that the indegenes saw the hausas as settlers and the hausas saw them as same as both sides made claims to being the original settlers in that area and that they had a topsy turvy history with periods of strife and co-operation which the colonialists rightly predicted would center around resources(more specifically land) eventually, which will become more precious as populations increase but this has been further complicated by exacerbations involving differences in religion, ethnicity and traditional leadership framework or its absence but you claim the indegenes saw the hausas as settlers being the major factor that precipitated the 1992 crisis but you failed to mention the hausas feeling entitled to trade monopoly as the preceding factor and yet, you're the objective and unbiased one here right?

On the major general lekwot zamani culpability, the constitution of the committee that found him guilty was highly contested and believed to be political and biased by both parties and to the greater extent, the indigenous peoples as is reported by your article, the high suspicion of collusion by government with the hausa people as is reported by your article, the sequence of violence started by one alhaji dan bala and one other in conjunction with the nigerian police at the new market who by knowingly and wilfully by removing their protection from market traders wilfully colluded with the aggrieved hausas protesting the relocation of the market as reported by your journal and why the police removed themselves en masse prior to the attacks by the hausas is not subject to speculation in really objective minds when juxtaposed with the fact that the proposal to move the market only had government backing at the local government level held by indegenes but not at state and federal level held by hausas (like i said, i resort to logical reasoning) so lekwot zamani's guilt is highly contestible without the indictment of the likes of alhaji dan bala and the police commissioner so yes, i believe lekwot zamani was culpable but not alone, why are you not concerned about this bias? Never mind the question, we both know the answer!
Thank you for referring to the lemu committee of 2011, so tell me, apart from a sense of entitlement to being the ones in power at the center, what is the actual cause of the massacre of hundreds of christians from both north and south post election in 2011? Are you also going to give me an article on the history of bad karma with southern christians over land and resources too? or is the not so vague accusation of culpability of buhari in inciting the violence coupled with the fact that lemu never made a defence for buhari after these accusations given how dogs and baboons were actually soaked in blood telling and significant? but of course, how preposterous of me to draw any similarities between buhari and lekwot zaman!! Right? And how dare i bring to your notice your conspicuous lapse in memory about buhari's recent indictment given that you could correctly remember lekwot zamani's! damn that selective amnesia! My condolences to you on your memory troubles

You ascribe causality of this gruesome premeditated massacres to the phantom massacre of thousands of hausas in 1992 as does the miyetti allah terrorists and i'm guessing that is an explanation that suffices for you and you expect it to suffice for the rest of us but wait just a minute!.............. What about the bloody clashes between then and now, did those never occur or is it selective amnesia again? Or is it a dearth of historical grievances to ascribe them to? Think hard! I'm sure you'll dig up something! Don't be........ What was it you called it? "mentally lazy" because you wouldn't want to be like me would you? And if i am being too vague, start from the sharia riots in and around 2001, the miss world riots e.t.c afterall, i am not your teacher either! And i also hate dull students

Next time, don't make hasty and daft conclusions from any write up neither should you make assumptions on the intelligence of anyone else because you're just not qualified to do so and also shelve your claims to objectivity as you clearly aren't objective!

Another interesting observation is that these attacks or justified vengeance quest as you and the miyetti allah choose to see it, took place under buhari and el-rufai's stewardship at both the state and federal levels both of whom are of hausa/fulani extraction as was the case in 1992 and the claims by the southern kaduna christians of collusion of the security forces in aiding and abetting the attacks is the same as in 1992 when similar political status quo held sway, was the quest for vengeance impracticable in the intervening years or was it a problem of logistics? Please refer that question to the miyetti allah co-ordinators for insider opinion but well, you should have already guessed my take/theory on that as would have any other reader using logic if you had half a brain! And before you start counting other clashes on your fingers, i will remind you that non of them was this one sided as the kaduna christians always gave back as good as they got but never so under buhari's regime where the modus operandi is a threat is made, the security forces are mobilized, they mysteriously withdraw under orders from above, the terrorists attack defenceless people at night killing many, a group is formed for reprisals in the morning, the security forces reappear and swoop on them as has happened from enugu to abia to benue to delta to kaduna! But then, that is only circumstantial to you! Isn't it?

Just remember! Buhari and el-rufai won't be in power indefinitely and we christians will remember these massacres too!
[b
] NO FULANI SHOULD EVER FORGET THAT!! [/b]

And oh! Keep digging up those articles, i will gladly dissect them for you or give tortuous and nonsensical replies (that is, if you're too daft to comprehend simple logic)
.

BraniacX:
In as much as i try resisting the urge to insult you, i must admit that i will happily fail in that regard and more so, do so with gusto!!

Are you really as daft as you portray yourself to be?

You cite an article you want me to believe saying or implying that the cause of the current massacre of "exclusively southern, christian, non-hausa kaduna indigenous residents mostly, women, children and the elderly" is in revenge for according to you, ”the massacre of thousands of hausa/fulani in zangon kataf" while the article you use as reference mentions less than a hundred dead from official accounts and the dead to be from both sides of the conflict, even if we use that event as the fulcrum from which future events are determined, it would seem the first to resort to actual violence were the hausa/fulani's and the first casualty being a young christian indegene! If you weren't really daft you'll never make a claim of ”objectivity" and before you spout the "neither are you" retort, it would interest you that i didn't make that claim as i tacitly admitted my bias, my reason why and my resort to using logical reasoning to make deductions, theories and conclusions in that order!
If it were not for your claims to "intelligence" and "objectivity" your apparent daftness would be laughable but as it is, i find it very depressing to have to engage you in this exchange!

More so, your article mentioned that the indegenes saw the hausas as settlers and the hausas saw them as same as both sides made claims to being the original settlers in that area and that they had a topsy turvy history with periods of strife and co-operation which the colonialists rightly predicted would center around resources(more specifically land) eventually, which will become more precious as populations increase but this has been further complicated by exacerbations involving differences in religion, ethnicity and traditional leadership framework or its absence but you claim the indegenes saw the hausas as settlers being the major factor that precipitated the 1992 crisis but you failed to mention the hausas feeling entitled to trade monopoly as the preceding factor and yet, you're the objective and unbiased one here right?

On the major general lekwot zamani culpability, the constitution of the committee that found him guilty was highly contested and believed to be political and biased by both parties and to the greater extent, the indigenous peoples as is reported by your article, the high suspicion of collusion by government with the hausa people as is reported by your article, the sequence of violence started by one alhaji dan bala and one other in conjunction with the nigerian police at the new market who by knowingly and wilfully by removing their protection from market traders wilfully colluded with the aggrieved hausas protesting the relocation of the market as reported by your journal and why the police removed themselves en masse prior to the attacks by the hausas is not subject to speculation in really objective minds when juxtaposed with the fact that the proposal to move the market only had government backing at the local government level held by indegenes but not at state and federal level held by hausas (like i said, i resort to logical reasoning) so lekwot zamani's guilt is highly contestible without the indictment of the likes of alhaji dan bala and the police commissioner so yes, i believe lekwot zamani was culpable but not alone, why are you not concerned about this bias? Never mind the question, we both know the answer!
Thank you for referring to the lemu committee of 2011, so tell me, apart from a sense of entitlement to being the ones in power at the center, what is the actual cause of the massacre of hundreds of christians from both north and south post election in 2011? Are you also going to give me an article on the history of bad karma with southern christians over land and resources too? or is the not so vague accusation of culpability of buhari in inciting the violence coupled with the fact that lemu never made a defence for buhari after these accusations given how dogs and baboons were actually soaked in blood telling and significant? but of course, how preposterous of me to draw any similarities between buhari and lekwot zaman!! Right? And how dare i bring to your notice your conspicuous lapse in memory about buhari's recent indictment given that you could correctly remember lekwot zamani's! damn that selective amnesia! My condolences to you on your memory troubles

You ascribe causality of this gruesome premeditated massacres to the phantom massacre of thousands of hausas in 1992 as does the miyetti allah terrorists and i'm guessing that is an explanation that suffices for you and you expect it to suffice for the rest of us but wait just a minute!.............. What about the bloody clashes between then and now, did those never occur or is it selective amnesia again? Or is it a dearth of historical grievances to ascribe them to? Think hard! I'm sure you'll dig up something! Don't be........ What was it you called it? "mentally lazy" because you wouldn't want to be like me would you? And if i am being too vague, start from the sharia riots in and around 2001, the miss world riots e.t.c afterall, i am not your teacher either! And i also hate dull students

Next time, don't make hasty and daft conclusions from any write up neither should you make assumptions on the intelligence of anyone else because you're just not qualified to do so and also shelve your claims to objectivity as you clearly aren't objective!

Another interesting observation is that these attacks or justified vengeance quest as you and the miyetti allah choose to see it, took place under buhari and el-rufai's stewardship at both the state and federal levels both of whom are of hausa/fulani extraction as was the case in 1992 and the claims by the southern kaduna christians of collusion of the security forces in aiding and abetting the attacks is the same as in 1992 when similar political status quo held sway, was the quest for vengeance impracticable in the intervening years or was it a problem of logistics? Please refer that question to the miyetti allah co-ordinators for insider opinion but well, you should have already guessed my take/theory on that as would have any other reader using logic if you had half a brain! And before you start counting other clashes on your fingers, i will remind you that non of them was this one sided as the kaduna christians always gave back as good as they got but never so under buhari's regime where the modus operandi is a threat is made, the security forces are mobilized, they mysteriously withdraw under orders from above, the terrorists attack defenceless people at night killing many, a group is formed for reprisals in the morning, the security forces reappear and swoop on them as has happened from enugu to abia to benue to delta to kaduna! But then, that is only circumstantial to you! Isn't it?

Just remember! Buhari and el-rufai won't be in power indefinitely and we christians will remember these massacres too!
[b
] NO FULANI SHOULD EVER FORGET THAT!! [/b]

And oh! Keep digging up those articles, i will gladly dissect them for you or give tortuous and nonsensical replies (that is, if you're too daft to comprehend simple logic)
.

BraniacX:
Oooh!

Touched a nerve there did i?

So what? Your personal story (highly doubt it though) makes you an expert over the collective stories of different tribes of minorities in southern kaduna and other predominantly christian areas in the north uhn!?

Isn't that rich of you? Of your murdered friends and relatives, how many bodies did you receive to pay last respects to and conduct last rites on?

Don't even think of getting personal because you know nothing about my sentiments f00l!! I scorned a permanent military career 'cos of entitled arseholes like you! It is that feeling of entitlement you so brazenly flaunt everywhere especially with your tribesman in a position of authority that grates on and still grates on my nerves even when criminality is involved!!! So f00l! No secondhand experience or tales by moonlight from me!

Its funny how the more educated you are the more daft you are! Stupidity and naivety can be barely tolerated among your people's uneducated majority but when the educated ones like you come out to boldly make crass, dumb and unsubstantiated pronouncements, I'm like WTF did you even bother going to school for if you're always going to end up being so stup1d?
I understand your ethnic see no wrong with the fulani bias was ingrained in you from birth but at some stage in a logical human's development, they're expected to at least question the beliefs they had taken at face value! 9 out of 10 of you don't and you're no exception so no surprises from you!

Since you have proven yourself capable to answer basic questions albeit from your biased point of view, why don't you attempt the previous questions i threw at you despite the loads of sacarsm laced into it? Or is lying with a straight face becoming problematic.

And for the record, since i haven't tried to pull wool over anybody's eyes no paint black as white, the one who has earned the right to question the others I.Q is me and not you so go figure!!

BraniacX:
Oooh!

Touched a nerve there did i?

So what? Your personal story (highly doubt it though) makes you an expert over the collective stories of different tribes of minorities in southern kaduna and other predominantly christian areas in the north uhn!?

Isn't that rich of you? Of your murdered friends and relatives, how many bodies did you receive to pay last respects to and conduct last rites on?

Don't even think of getting personal because you know nothing about my sentiments f00l!! I scorned a permanent military career 'cos of entitled arseholes like you! It is that feeling of entitlement you so brazenly flaunt everywhere especially with your tribesman in a position of authority that grates on and still grates on my nerves even when criminality is involved!!! So f00l! No secondhand experience or tales by moonlight from me!

Its funny how the more educated you are the more daft you are! Stupidity and naivety can be barely tolerated among your people's uneducated majority but when the educated ones like you come out to boldly make crass, dumb and unsubstantiated pronouncements, I'm like WTF did you even bother going to school for if you're always going to end up being so stup1d?
I understand your ethnic see no wrong with the fulani bias was ingrained in you from birth but at some stage in a logical human's development, they're expected to at least question the beliefs they had taken at face value! 9 out of 10 of you don't and you're no exception so no surprises from you!

Since you have proven yourself capable to answer basic questions albeit from your biased point of view, why don't you attempt the previous questions i threw at you despite the loads of sacarsm laced into it? Or is lying with a straight face becoming problematic.

And for the record, since i haven't tried to pull wool over anybody's eyes no paint black as white, the one who has earned the right to question the others I.Q is me and not you so go figure!!

egoldman:
https://s28.postimg.org/654qpo3ux/nairaland.jpg
But wait , i searched this pic online and got to know that this guy was a kidnapper nabbed in Rivers , how come you are telling us he was arrested in southern kaduna ?
Follow this links to see these links and tell me why i should not call you a liar ;

http://okadanews.com.ng/police-intercept-heavily-armed-kidnappers-on-their-way-for-operation/

http://funzy.us/police-press-release-on-the-interception-of-heavily-armed-kidnappers-on-their-way-for-opearation/

BraniacX:
See who's talking about logic?

Hey islamofascist apologist! Ever had a relative killed in the north before?

Ever had a friend killed by boko haram before?

Do you actually need citations about the duplicity of our security forces when fulani murderers are involved from abia to enugu to benue to taraba to adamawa to kogi to nassarawa and now kaduna under buhari's regime?

Are you unfamiliar with the history of violence perpetrated by fulanis in this region or are you feigning ignorance?

Are you aware that a body named "miyetti allah" openly threatened southern kaduna people with further attacks by giving conditions for peace Yesterday and that they have done it before many times even though they are not a government agency in Nigeria In buhari's regime and that no action has ever been taken against them by the FG, not even a reprimand much less condemnation?

Are you also aware that miyetti allah is an exclusively fulani group?

Do you need an explanation? Or would you prefer an I.Q test?

BraniacX:
Oh! These islamofascist fulani apologists are getting smarter
Nice, I can see you actually did your homework before embarking on the middlebelt genocide so producing an "in quote ibo fulani pretender" is going to clean the slate and deflect attention from where it belongs with the innocent and unjustly accused but actually bloodthirsty fulani herdsmen whose reputation is being damaged and place it on the pre-scripted fallguys in ibos from the east trying to stir unrest where there was peace with singing of kumbaya
So answer a few questions for me

1. Was this spectacular arrest made by our apolotical and oh so trustworthy Nigerian police?

2. Were are the other ibo instigators that were arrested in Niger, Benue, Taraba, Adamawa, Plateau and other theatres of ethnic cleansing of christians across the north and the middle belt?

3. Were the ibo boko haram members/sponsors arrested too?

4. What about the actual fulani terrorists that were arrested sometime last year between abuja and nassarawa who actually 'fessed up about being on a genocidal mission to benue by the military but who were conveniently lost in transit during transfer to the police?

5. Was (4) facilitated by an order from above or not?

6. Why have the four murderers of that ibo lady in kano been released on bail with no further charges brought against them? Is there doubt that they actually committed the murder? Or is murder no longer a crime? And when did an allegation of murder become a bailable offence?

7. Does the question in (5) apply to (6)?

8. When and where was this ibo suspect actually arrested? Was it days after the security forces who actually co-ordinated, aided and abetted the attacks for the fulani terrorists according to surviving eyewitnesses? And was it at the scene of the attack while he was busy glorifying himself for having successfully massacred babies and women while waiting for these same security forces to come and pick him?

9. When are they going to discover his ties to the N.D.A and other niger delta militant groups as predicted by el-rufai?

10. When is the federal/state government going to realise that no one is fooled and stop this script written charade?

11. Were you impressed by your transparent attempt at playing machiavelli and tsun zu? Does your brain have the required I.Q to play this game long term knowing fully well your agenda is known and your every move predictable?

12. Will a week elapse before an ijaw militant in fulani dress is captured in say plateau state with ethic genocide to follow some days later? Or will he be captured after the massacre?


Don't be too surprised by my questions, your lies and propaganda are just too transparent!

Ichel:
plz who is the father and who is the son?
cuz am not understanding

LorDBolton:
And the mumu people will continue worshipping the false allah.

Smh

Philinho:
And d late Mohammed watch this happen.? sad

ISDKING:
Igbos are not violent, such advice should be given to his brothers up there.Btw, what does he mean by unity ?,hope is not what am thinking

gbestwilliams:
And no money oooo... Where him see this one

5minsmadness:
Is it incest to sleep with one's sister-in-law?

Bonapart:
Not my president tho
Heard he only favour the north and fellow abok!a
Shame on tinubu and the rest

Let's see how the budget will help issues
Buhari the murderer