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Christianity Etc › Re: Branches Are Not Sticks : Why God Will Never Cast You Away - Paul Ellis by Anas09: 7:32pm On Nov 15, 2018

rhektor:
Thank you very much sister for your response.
Let me add this fee points to it ma. I have not even seen a reason put the once saved forever saved as something reasonable. If God through Hosea tell us that "Ephraim has joined himself to idol let him alone" Hosea 4:17 does this mean that God cannot save Ephraim? No god can save Ephraim but Ephraim has to be available. In Isaiah he said not that I can not save but your sin is separating us. Even when God said through Isaiah that seek the Lord when you can find him call him when he is near, God is not traveling but we are the one wondering away from him. God wouldn't force anything on us else there's no need for Jesus to die on the cross

Truth is that, people beliefs has a way of blocking any light of understanding that is contrary to what they believe even tho it's laid out on plain side.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 4:13pm On Nov 15, 2018

LordReed:
Ah OK, Budaatum is gender fluid. I wonder what our religious brethren will think of that. LoLz

He is not human. We are either male or female, you can't be both.

Christianity Etc › Re: Branches Are Not Sticks : Why God Will Never Cast You Away - Paul Ellis by Anas09: 4:12pm On Nov 15, 2018

alBHAGDADI:
I didn't read your post, but I'll respond to the bold part.

First and foremost, we can't lose our salvation because we are not the one that saved ourselves. Jesus Christ saved us and is in charge of the task of keeping us safe. Saying we will lose our salvation is the same as saying Jesus that saved us cannot keep us. Why would anyone even want to be saved by such an uncertain savior? Jesus is a perfect savior.

John 10:28-29
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Can you pluck yourself out of God's hands? If you can, doesn't that mean that God's hand is weak?

Lol. You didn't read my post how then will you get the point i tried to make? No wahala sha. I didn't yours toom

Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 3:19pm On Nov 15, 2018

LordReed:
I saw Budaatum use a female personal pronoun so I presume that's the case.

It uses both. I asked It once if it was a she, It reverted to 'he'. lol.

Omobasuron. (am i right?) Are you male of female. Be proud of your gender. Or are you a Hermaphrodite? Don't worry if you are, I'll still accept you as you are.lolzzz.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by Anas09: 3:13pm On Nov 15, 2018

Maamin:
With the bolded, where does the idea of trinity comes from anyway?

What is the point of believing in trinity if the Bible didn't even mentioned or gave any such idea?.

It does, but you choose not to see it. That the Word TRINITY IS NOT EXPLICITLY MENTIONED doesn't mean it's not there.

Take the Word of God literally and you remain at the material level.

Jesus talked about Trinity when he said he came FROM the Father and is going back to the Father. He said Him and the Father are One. If you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Meaning, They are Distinguishable but not divisible.

What does this mean?

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John:5:7

This ^^^ is in Heaven, but how does this work in a material earth?

Let me try to explain this by using Reality and Manifestation. (What is real but you can't see it until it takes a form).

Reality is substantial, while Manifestation is Form; material or physical. The Reality of a thing is the Essence of that thing.

Whatever is Real will remain hidden (to man), unless it is manifested in a form.

Hebrews 1:1 tells us that Jesus is the exact image of YHWH, and in the old times, the Prophets only dealt with His divine Essence. He was present, but not in a form, but now, He has decided to pour His essence into a receptacle which is given a name, Jesus; which still means 'The Salvation' of Jehovah. And He said, If you are imagining how YHWH looks, here i am. For I and the Father One.

Jehovah is God in Essence, Jesus is God in manifestation and the Holy Spirit is the Emanation of the Reality and the Manifestation of YHWH.

His Essence could not indwell humans permanently, His body could only be with us physically, but He intended to indwell us, because if he does, demons will no longer have access to posses and destroy us from within. So His Spirit is indwelling us forever.

This is hard, very hard for anyone who thinks with his eyes and not from his mind. Try to think from your mind, you'd understand what i just said, but if you remain at the level of only what you can see, then...

Christianity Etc › Re: My Two Worse Addictions by Anas09: 2:12pm On Nov 15, 2018

I can't make any sense out of this.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 2:05pm On Nov 15, 2018

MuttleyLaff:
No, I am not saying budaatum is a devil
but that budaatum, like vaxx, references the bible
yet darkchild 64 doesn't choose to assume budaatum is a christian based on him referencing, quoting or mentioning Bible verses

He/She quotes scriptures he/she does not believe in.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 1:52pm On Nov 15, 2018

LordReed:
If Budaatum is a devil, she's a patient civil devil. LoL

Is Budaatum a she now?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by Anas09: 1:49pm On Nov 15, 2018

grandstar:
Is the Holy Spirit a person in the first place? (Read Genesis 1:2 and Isaiah 40:26(

The holy spirit isn't a person but God's active force or God's power

Please ,endeavor to always base your Christian beliefs on what the bible actually says ( Read Acts 17:11)

Do you have these verses in your Bible?
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you

And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 16...

This is where Jesus says He is the Holy Spirit.
[b] will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John:14:18

You mean the Holy Spirit is not a person yet 'It speaks?'. Matt. 10: 19-20. Do you know you need a mouth to speak?

The Holy Spirit is a force, yet 'It' is a helper? Jon 14:26.

The Holy Spirit is not a person but 'it' is a teacher? Luke 12:'12. Do you know you need intellect, decrement and understanding to teach or impart knowledge to another person?

The Holy Spirit which is just a force teaches, acts as an advocate, a lawyer or defender. it guides, directs and brings to remembrance.
The. Lord Jesus called the Holy Spirit Him, Charles Tass Resell called him IT. Who is insane here?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by Anas09: 1:04pm On Nov 15, 2018

OneJ:
Jesus said "the Father is greater than I" john14:28. Why do U choose to lie against Jesus ?
Twister of truth

Jehovah's Witnesses with their literal understanding of Scriptures.

Pls how is Jesus the Son of God considering that every Son must have a father and mother.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by Anas09: 12:36pm On Nov 15, 2018

OneJ:
Why is Yahweh never obedient or submissive to Jesus Christ or the holy spirit ?

U claimed "they are the same God", coequal. Yet "Jesus was begotted by the Father who is greater than Jesus.
Co equal for where ?

Co-equal means two of them being equal? Sir, Jehovah is Jesus.

How do we even read the Bible sef? Its all there plainly.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by Anas09: 12:34pm On Nov 15, 2018

Shelumiel:
The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are a manifestation of the same thing : God . So none of them is greater . In fact, there is a certain equality among them , especially when it comes to decision making . Take a look at Genesis1:26 and Genesis 11:7. Hope this helps .

Thank you sir.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Greater Between Jesus And Holy Spirit ? by Anas09: 12:31pm On Nov 15, 2018

iamwhat:
To answer you question, Grandpa is the head.

Now substitute Father, Son and Holy spirit into your list.

Let's represent Jehovah as Grandpa, which is A in your list, Who is B and C ?

Jehovah is Jesus manifested. The Holy Spirit is Jesus emanating.

If you still believe that Jehovah is different from Jesus and the Holy Spirit is different from Jesus, then you have three gods. That makes you an idol worshiper.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 12:22pm On Nov 15, 2018

MuttleyLaff:
The devil quotes(d) the bible, and I havent seen anyone because of that assume the devil is a christian

budaatum often quotes the bible

Are you now saying Budaatum is a devil? lolzzzz

Christianity Etc › Re: Branches Are Not Sticks : Why God Will Never Cast You Away - Paul Ellis by Anas09: 12:06pm On Nov 15, 2018

Christ calls for Continuity, if we walk away, we walk away.

The Gospel of Justification by faith alone is a farce. Faith without Works is no faith.

Christianity Etc › Re: Branches Are Not Sticks : Why God Will Never Cast You Away - Paul Ellis by Anas09: 12:00pm On Nov 15, 2018

rhektor:
Branches that refuse to abide will become sticks and will be burn with fire John chapter 15
Read carefully Mr alBHAGDADI

Cc Felixomor, anas09

Bro rhektor and alBHAGDADI.

Let's consider something for a while. Let's look at this;

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Revelation:21:23

This verse says the Lord Jesus is the light lighting heaven. (The light emanates from Him 'glory'). And we know that everything which appears on earth has their source in Heaven. Our Sun receives it's power and life from the Sun in Heaven.
Now, If the Sun emanates from Christ our Lord, Lets just say Christ is the Sun.
Can the Sun turn itself away from anyone on earth? No. Where ever we go, the Sun goes with us, but can we turn ourselves away from the Sun? Yes. How?

If you decide to live like the eskimos who live in the North Pole, you'd receive no Sun, or at most minimal sun. because you've decided to shun the warmth of the Sun. But does thst mean the sun has left you? No.

It is the same with our dealings with the Lord.

The Lord does not, cannot, and will never turn himself away from Man as long as that man is alive. His life, air, rain, sunlight still gets to him. The divine grand design still works for him.
If he plant crops, they still yield fruits, if he wants kids, he can still have them. he sleeps, rest, eats and drinks in enjoyment. He enjoys sex whether with a woman or with a fellow man. Everything the followers of Christ gets as long as it's not supernatural, he gets.

BUT, what if he decides to turn away Willingly from Christ, will he be forced to stay? NO.

WE CAN LOOSE OUR SALVATION if we decide to turn away. But it is not Christ who gives us away. He'll be available, reaching us with the warmth of His Love until we die, then, it becomes too late.

The Lord says Love not the World or the things of the World. But what if a believer is caught up in this love, which is the Love to satiate Self, and gets distracted? Can this person hold Christ and hold the world at the same time? No.

Finally, i think the folks propagating this 'Once saved is always saved' gospel, are those who believe in Justification by Faith Alone. It's a Farce.

We have a RESPONSIBILITY and a part to play to keep the enemy from stealing our salvation like the Seed which fell by the way side and was eating by births. Luke 8:5

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Christianity Etc › Re: Will Listening To Worldly Music Make A Christian Go To Hell? by Anas09: 10:24am On Nov 15, 2018

Deckline:
I still haven't gotten your point on this,

You said mountain of fire will lead some many christians to hell.
Anas09 I don't get it,this is pure oxymoron.

Btw- Anyway,many are called,few are chosen. Those christians whom you say will go to hell are those people who place their pastor's words over God's. People who are grounded in God cannot be swayed.

This is why i said Mountain of Fire will send many unscriptural Christians to Hellfire.

Jehovah took up flesh and became Jesus to save Mankind from Sin and Satan, which is Hellfire. He taught us the ways and the things to do to stay away from Hellfire and they are just two.

1. Love the Lord with all your Heart, soul and might.
2. Love your neighbor as you Love Yourself.

We are made to identify who our enemy is. Man has only one enemy and his name is satan, the author or Sin. Discover what is sinful and stay away from it becos, you can not bind satan inside his territory.

Everything Mountain of Fire is doing is to return back Christians to the bondage Christ saved them from. The bondage of FEAR, HATE, REVENGE, BITTERNESS, ANGER, AGGRESSION, UNFORGIVENESS, AND MURDER. All these are fruits from the Tree called Pride.
God says forgive, love, do not take revenge, give room wrath, Do not be afraid. Fear not

Mountain Of Fire is redirecting attention from satan to fellow men who themselves are victims under siege in the Camp of satan. Man is now an enemy instead of satan.

Mountain of fire and their allies magnify satan by always talking and making known the deeds of satan more than they take and publicize the works of God. All they talk about is what satan is doing. All their books are about what satan is doing. People know so much about satan and so little about Jesus.

Their members live is fear, as every insect is a demon. all domestic animals and household pets are demons.

They do not associate with people for fear of being bewitched. Everyone around them is a suspect.

How can anyone Love his neighbor if all they hear is your mother, your father, your uncle, your aunty, your colleague, your neighbor is a witch and is responsible for your woes?

Mountain of Fire began this campaign and it has spread like Wild fire. From no where deliverance ministries are now everywhere. Their activities are unscriptural, their prayer points have no scriptural backings. All they do is emotional and misdirected.

They kill people everyday in their intentions, and if the absence of the law, they will definitely go ahead to kill their supposed enemies physically.

What you intend, you have done.

Who are these people working for, Jesus or satan? Jesus preaches, Love and forgiveness, they preach Fear and Hate.

We should follow the Bible, not men's perceptions.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Love A Part Of Christianity? by Anas09: 9:57am On Nov 15, 2018

solite3:
depends of the type of feeling or attraction the source can either be from sin or from God.

This is what i have been saying all along.

There's divine Love and earthly love which is evil. Just like, there's divine Wisdom and satanic wisdom. For the fact that we as Christians believe that Love and wisdom are divine does not remove the fact that there's evil love and wisdom

My question has been 'What are they?' All we Christians know are their Fruits, not their stems.

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Listening To Worldly Music Make A Christian Go To Hell? by Anas09: 2:23pm On Nov 13, 2018

Deckline:
Really The bible says "and Jesus spake a parable..." another scripture says "speake ye to the israelites saying..."
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Jesus already spoke the word so it is very potent. The scriptures were written from what Jesus preached(spoke).
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Speaking is more potent than typing.
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A word spoken out cannot be reversed but a typed word can be changed that was why John adviced us REV22:18

Do you also remember where Jesus said 'If you think it, you have committed it?

Writing is your thoughts in Print. If you think of having sex and you become guilty of the sin of fornication and adultery, how much will it be of you write it?

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Listening To Worldly Music Make A Christian Go To Hell? by Anas09: 12:56am On Nov 13, 2018

Deckline:
God said he will judge every word we say,not type. NL and E-bashing are like 5 and 6. I'm not in support of these though,but if you just wanna save your head,stay away from such forums that may disturb your peace of mind.

Are you saying our typed thoughts are nothing so will not be held against us becos we didn't say them?
Typed Words to me, are more potent than spoken.

But the Word of Jesus Christ is Typed, Is it potent or not?

Well, Our thoughts, affections and intentions will be judged also.

I just pity Christians who have allowed all these false prophets lead them to becoming murderers who kill people every day in their thoughts.

Mountain of Fire Ministries will lead some many people to Hell as it has groomed angry, bitter and vengeful murderers at heart.

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Listening To Worldly Music Make A Christian Go To Hell? by Anas09: 12:43am On Nov 13, 2018

Deckline:
Anas09, I really appreciate your vivid explanation but i'm still kind of confused.
I required a straight forward answer.
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For instance...
Michael Jackson's "We are the world", Whitney Houston's "I will always love you",Celin Dion's "My heart will go on". etc...
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These songs are not gospel songs per-se but we can't completely say they are corrupt songs either.
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These songs major themes base on general unity,love among people irrespective of your race.
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If we hear songs like the aforementioned which are not edifying our spirit but are neither corrupt either,
Are we going to go to hell if we don't repent or disist from listening to them

Well. There's nothing defiling in the lyrics of those songs in themselves, but who are the makers of these music? Remember what they are displaying are talents given to them by God, for His praise and glory. Are they using those talents as expected? No. Their music Self-ward not God-ward.

I liked MJ and Celine but when i got born again, i just wasn't comfortable with their music anymore, long before i heard Celine followed her husband into Church of satan and MJ was deep into Illuminati.

These people do not glorify God in their music.

I liked Yanni like Craze. I had all his albums. Videos and all, but over time his music just ebbed out of me.

Dearest, the more you stay with Jesus, these things will just leave you on their own. No pastor will preach against them, they'll just dissipate out of you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Love A Part Of Christianity? by Anas09: 8:58pm On Nov 12, 2018

solite3:
Satan didn't come from God.
here is a Google definition of love

love noun
1. a strong feeling of affection.
2. a great interest and pleasure in something.
3. a person or thing that one loves.

All google said does not say the source of this strong feel of affection.

What is informing this interest or pleasure? Everything has a source, or cause. What caused this interest, pleasure or affection?

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Listening To Worldly Music Make A Christian Go To Hell? by Anas09: 8:54pm On Nov 12, 2018

Deckline:
I guess it is the blood of Jesus which cleans us from our sins.

Check these scriptures out. Keep your mind with all diligence. Watch... who does the keeping? the blood or you? You.
Mark 4:24-25 He also said to them, “Pay attention to what you hear!... You do the attention paying.

And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.
Mark:4:24

What you hear is very important, and you have a duty to control that, not the Lord.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans:12:2

And be not conformed to this world? Who does the conforming? You. Who does the renewing of your mind? You

What are you renewing your mind from? From the things which the world approve of, but Jesus disapproves.

Does the Music which praises immortality and nudity glorifying to God?

Your Soul is the portal to your Spirit, what you feed it with determines what you'd become.

In everything you do, both in words or in action, do it as unto Christ.

Shalom.

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Question For Our Muslim Folks Around by Anas09: 5:54pm On Nov 12, 2018

mujahid777:
Alright then,the infidel being an infidel will go to hell! Case closed.

If you are called a muslim, you'd throw a feat.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Canaanland Ota In Pictures by Anas09: 5:44pm On Nov 12, 2018

chukxie:
He's not taking them to the afterlife and neither are you going to take whatever you have to the afterlife. It appears you have a problem with true development. Bishop Oyedepo is human with flaws just like you and I have. The thing is in spite of his flaws he's doing a lot to impact and transform lives. What he's doing and still doing is far more than our leaders have done. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that.

He is inwardly jealous, wishing one of his ancestors or the ones alive could come close to being what Bishop is.

Christianity Etc › Re: Canaanland Ota In Pictures by Anas09: 5:42pm On Nov 12, 2018

elshanAutos:
NIGERIA IS DOOMED.

Nigeria is doomed? With me in it? Naaa. Nigeria is Blessed. Satan fights only a blessed person, not a cursed one.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Love A Part Of Christianity? by Anas09: 4:52pm On Nov 12, 2018

solite3:
yes there is but that is not the love of God. I said God's love from the beginning.

I see. This is where we missed it. My very first post in this thread was a question. What is Love in Essence? The definition of the Word Love. I didn't ask what godly Love was.

What is LOVE generally?

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Love A Part Of Christianity? by Anas09: 4:49pm On Nov 12, 2018

solite3:
@bold you are wrong, the origin of Godly love is from God himself.
what made people evil? is it the love of God? the love of sin is not from God.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

you should understand that nothing imperfect or sinful can emanate from God.

1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

so the love that emanates from God has no dark side or evil. Have a nice day

Where did Satan the author of sin emanate from?

Sir, we could have had a great discourse here, but unfortunately, you can't get pass the concept of Love.

Anyways, bye.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Love A Part Of Christianity? by Anas09: 4:46pm On Nov 12, 2018

solite3:
@bold you are wrong, the origin of Godly love is from God himself.
what made people evil? is it the love of God? the love of sin is not from God.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

you should understand that nothing imperfect or sinful can emanate from God.

1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

so the love that emanates from God has no dark side or evil. Have a nice day

Sir, you don't know the definition of the word LOVE period.

Your mind cannot grasp the fact that in the kingdom of darkness, they have their own version or kind of Love.

I'm done.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Love A Part Of Christianity? by Anas09: 4:38pm On Nov 12, 2018

solite3:
@bold you are wrong, the origin of Godly love is from God himself.
what made people evil? is it the love of God? the love of sin is not from God.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

you should understand that nothing imperfect or sinful can emanate from God.

1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

so the love that emanates from God has no dark side or evil. Have a nice day

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Listening To Worldly Music Make A Christian Go To Hell? by Anas09: 7:08am On Nov 12, 2018

Deckline:
But what if we succeed in having our minds INCORRUPTIBLE
Are we still right with God?

Do you know what keeps your mind incorruptible?

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Listening To Worldly Music Make A Christian Go To Hell? by Anas09: 7:07am On Nov 12, 2018

Ufedolove:
It's no where in the Bible that listening to secular music is a sin but listening to secular music will definitely corrupt your mind on the long run and such a mind disgusts the Lord.

This is just similar to drinking is not a sin but being drunk is.

Thank you. Keep your Mind with all diligence for out of it proceeds the issues of life.

And the Bible says, whatever you do, in words or in acts, do it as unto Christ.

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