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hahn:
waiting for winner01, felixomor, president1, kingebukasblog, anas09, jeromejnr and other religious nairaland nuts to do the same

Geraway you dia. The sacrifice was done once. The blood of a sinful man is useless to the Lord.

That woman has a demon inside of her impersonating God. Satan is known to always lie under Pseudo identities.

That is your master for you.

btw, how your pikin and him mama?

JoannaSedley:
Please, find your ilks and debate the name Lucifer. I am not going to be in the midst of the obvious Christian war brewing on this thread. Just behave as if I was never here. Thank you.

Okay.

solite3:
The Catholic Song to Lucifer
There is this prayer the Pope has called for in which all his clergy must sing a song in mass called Exultet. It is sung in Latin and its English translation is the following:


“Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind. I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated. Christ is your son who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end.”

Where is the Latin version?

JoannaSedley:
Lucifer is one of the finest name ever but religious hypocrisy has blinded most of the world population to see it as the worst name.

Op, stop being mischievous and do your research well.
Whenever I am presented with the option of being a Christian, I will choose Catholicism at least they know where all the bodies are buried, what is real and what they added along the way for kicks.

What have you now said?

Ishilove:
My twinnie

Ishi babe. how far ya side?

boyfwend:
Lmao.. And you're hiding under a male moniker.

Me male? Never said i was male anyday o. Na people dey think say i be male.
I'm a Soft bae with breast and ukwu. lol.

boyfwend:
I can't try that.
I know my sexuality. I love breast and also chase girls.

Fornication is as damnable as homosexuality. Remember that. In the afterLife, both guys who did them will go one side.

Just ask Jesus to help you or get married and do with whatever you pls with the breast you'd pay for. lol.

ccarefulwind2:
Of course, you do. And do you know why?

Because your words reeks of spiritual abuse and in your own case, yours is verbal.

You feel it is spiritual zeal or even spiritual maturity, but i tell you, you wrong.

Let me tell you some characteristics of spiritual
abuse that you and also Christians can become aware of.

Observers, please take note.

Spiritual abusers often:

1. Exploit the doctrine of our fallenness to
accuse, berate, critique, attack, belittle,
condemn or produce guilt in the victim.
They may cultivate or take advantage of
their victim’s conscientiousness in
regards to moral matters in order to
make them feel like the real problem is
the victim’s inferior spirituality. They
may make the victim feel like the only
reason things aren’t better is because
the victim is immature.

2. Exploit the doctrine of our fallenness to
excuse or minimise the severity of their
own behaviour. They may try to convince
the victim that since everyone is sinful,
their abuse is normal, and they shouldn’t
expect anything different.

3. Exploit the doctrines of forgiveness and
reconciliation to demand that a victim
forgive the abuse, even if there has been
no real repentance. They may pressure
the victim to ‘move on’, as though any
ongoing hurts are the result of ungodly
bitterness or resentments. They may
demand that forgiveness equate to the
restoration of all the previous conditions
of the relationship (including contact,
communication and trust).

4. Use the busyness, stress, pressures or
responsibilities of ministry to excuse
abuse. Abusers may use ministry to
excuse deliberate neglect of the victim.
They may blame outbursts, aggression,
physical violence, on the pressures of
ministry, making the victim feel that they
can’t critique the abuse without also
critiquing a valuable ministry.

5. Use the Bible to justify abusive
behaviour, and insinuate or explicitly
state that if the victim understands the
Bible differently, the difference of
opinion is actually a product of sin.

6. Use their - apparently - sophisticated
knowledge of the Bible to position
themselves outside of the teaching and
authority of church leaders.

7. Use the Christian community to protect
the abuser, and isolate the victim. The
abuser may make himself or herself vital
to significant ministries, in turn making
the victim feel responsible for their
possible collapse if they revealed the
abuse. They abuser may manipulate
others so that they think highly of the
abuser and think little of the victim,
making the victim feel like they wouldn’t
have any support if they did expose the
abuse. The abuser might paint
themselves as the long-suffering or
patiently enduring partner of an erratic or
dramatic or emotional woman (or child),
undermining the victim’s credibility
whilst underscoring theirs.

8. Lie to the victim about how they are
regarded by the Christian community,
isolating them from possible sources of
support.

9. Isolate their victims socially, making
excuses why the victim cannot
participate in social or spiritual
gatherings, and limiting their access to
either information or support, or both.

10. Appeal to the work of evil spirits as
explanations for the victim’s accusations
or behaviour.

11. Attribute accusations against them to
the work of Satan.

12. Use Bible passages about generosity to
justify controlling the victim’s access to
money.

13. Use Bible passages about faithfulness in
marriage to justify limiting the victim’s
social life.

14. Use Bible passages about rebuking to
justify verbal abuse.

15. Use Bible passages about sexuality to
justify rape and sexual assault.

16. Use Bible passages about unity to justify
silencing the victim.

I urge you to change my friend.

Note : You are not the only one with a thick skin.

I rest my case at these point, good night friend.

Lol. all dis victim card game na for me?

Most of what i've been doing here is ask you questions which you refused to answer. You want us to have a discussion, but what i see here is an attempt by you to bring people in here and tell them what you want them to hear, without any input from them. Dat one na discussion?

You called me into this thread to discuss Occult, when i asked why you'd call a Christian to discuss Occult, you said, there's nothing strange in Occult, as even Christendom is Occultic. My dear you've been making assertions here that if not probed, an ignorant person might believe you.

The reason i gave out time to linger here is so that the spiritually lazy Christians won't read you and go off believing your Occult brothers who have stealthily walked into the Christian fold masquerading as Pastors to be true. Anything outside the Word of God and used within context, is satan trying to deceive.

Now you accuse me of spiritual abuse. But, technically, you are the abuser here. You and your brother in other to justify your satanic activities, you resorted to bringing Christ into your darkness, by asserting all sort of ridiculousness.

You said, pastors hide most deep Occultic Christian knowledge from their members but reveal them to the spiritually matured and to a few of their cronies. And, i asked who they were and if their teaching were Biblical, you dodged. Now you are attempted to black male me by making me feel guilty of something? lol.


Sir, emotional blackmail does not work on me.

I asked you who sat at the helm of Occult believers, i expected you to give me a name, again, you dodged. I expected that you'd be bold to say satan, and then go on to give me reasons why you choose to study him, but, you've tried to steer the discuss away from him intending to keep him hidden behind the scene. Typical of him.

Sir, If you can't be open and proud of what you're doing, then chances are that, you've involved yourself in something bad. pls quit. I am a Christian and i will stand anywhere and shout it out. Not ashamed to call Christ my God. Why aren't you proud of satan tho?

You can't seriously believe your allegiance is not to satan, do you? Stop feeling victimized biko. If anything, the victimization is coming from you Occults who do everything to destroy the faith of believers in Christ.

MiddleDimension:
by your definition of the occult, Jesus was of the occult. he did the transfiguration on SECRET hiding place, and revealed it to a few, Peter, James and John. and he commanded secrecy of them!

a lodge ia not more a place than a Church ia a place. a lodge is a group of people who come together for a cause.

as for numbers, i think i have already showed you how Jesus is a mathematian?

and as foe zodiac/astrology, i wonder why three wise men where not condemned by god , but instead were portrayed in the Bible.as friends ofgod. they also showed better faith in God, than many of you do today. Bible says: without faith, no one can pls God. the three wise men plsd God, and located Jesus by way of astrology!

All Powers, reading it again 'Powers', in heaven and on earth belongs to Jesus. Did you read me? 'BELONGS to Jesus.

You don't suppose that The Only Potentate who sits in Heaven and makes the earth His footstool, Who sets up Kingdoms and Overthrows empires. Who rules in the Army of Heaven and amongst the inhabitants of earth, who no one can rebuke Him and say 'What doest thou?
will be in the same level with you guys?
You no dey fear o.

He Transfigured in secret and told his Apostles not to say it, that made him a fellow with you occult people yeah?. Do you also remember that all His Acts of kindness were done in secret and said they shd not broadcast them? That was an Occultic practice yeah? And, how come His Transfiguration is written in the open Bible?


But, for you guys, except someone repents we never get to know what guys do.

You mean Ogboni Lodge is a Church? See what it's turning our politicians into?

Astrologers who came to Worship Jesus, did you hear me? WORSHIPed Jesus, read their stars and saw that a greater Principality had stepped into humanity. They were not equals, if they were, grand fathers won't come all the way from Persia to worship an infant.

GO Figure.

Jesus is the Head of ALL PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS.

DEMONS TREMBLE AT HIS PRESENCE screaming, do not destroy us before our time.

Now, enough of Jesus. Let's get back to you telling me the Source of the Occultic Power.

HenryDion:
Not really bullying.. Both of us are just playing

If that guy is not strong willed, your words could urge him on. He could begin to doubt himself and may allow some idiot try it on him. Tufiakwa. Holy Ghost fire satan.

Before Christ got me and i switched off from sex. I went to the salon to get my hair done, i met many other ladies waiting and one particularly one was having her hair done then.

Now my stylist is my very good friend, so we gist freely. When i walked in she was going on and on about how good i looked and wanted to know the perf i used. I said Gucci Envy. This lady was looking at me in a way only a guy could look at a girl.

Oh, she liked my brows, she also liked my perf. My mind did not even go to any of such nonsense. I had to get my nails done and another lady did my nails then, so instead of just sitting there, i left to do my nails. When i later came to have my done, my stylist called me aside and asked if i took note of the lady she was making her hair when i came in, i said, kind of. She said the lady wants me. I asked how? She said, the lady begged her to pls tell me that she liked me and would like us to be friends. She left her number for me to call her if digged her.

What kind of friendship is she talking abt? i asked my friend. she said 'You know, romantic. The Hell? Roma what? Is she a guy pretending to be a girl? My friend said no, she's a lady. Then, What The Hell

Wait, does she have a dick, like the very strong, hard, firm one? She has two breasts and i have two too, that will be 4. That will be too much breast in the same room. what are we going to be doing with all of those breasts?
My friend won die for laf.

You see, i like muscles, the bulging pulsating ones, and a dick is my best Muscle. God didn't make a mistake creating that big muscle. It was put there for a reason. "And The Lord said Adam and Eve go on and have sex, fill the earth with children". Ah.

I told my friend to tell her that, except she has strong arms, hairy chest, a mustache, and flat tiny nipples, she shd never look at me anytime she saw me.

What nonsense? I will leave a man who can lift me up and follow a girl with breast like me. What am i going to be doing with her? Nonsense and ingredient.

Thank You Jesus for saving me.

ccarefulwind2:
Lol... Funny you

Good to know i amuse you.

ccarefulwind2:
Lol... Aliester Crowley? Hmm...
Madam, i hear you. Good luck then

You are laughing loud at Aliester Crowley? You mean he is beneath you or what?

HenryDion:
Old papa like you

Don't allow me to swear for you ooh

You are trying to bully this guy. It's not nice. leave him alone. These guys are getting bolder by the day. They now approach openly.

ccarefulwind2:
You amaze me with your written words. Your assumptions towards me is baseless. It only reveals more about the ignorance the public has towards the occult.

And here you are the 21st Century Aliester Crowley, the messiah of the modern world by Occultic teachings.

Oga, We Choose Our Paths. You Have Chosen yours, and i mine. good luck with yours. I live or die, stand or fall with Jesus.

ccarefulwind2:
No offence please, but i say you are just being narrow minded.

Whichever term you choose to describe me won't make me leave what i'm in the middle of to do as you bid me. If i was less busy, i could read your theory. But, i have a life, plus, i have to make out time to read what will build me spiritually for now.

So, good luck with the name calling, i'm used to it. I'm as tough as the bark of an Iroko tree. it doesn't get anyway beyond NL. lol

MiddleDimension:
I will show you the those scriptures definitely. but pls tell me how many disciples did Jesus have
again you speak like the occult is an organization. why don't you mention the particular organization you are referring to, and if i know them, then i with be able to tell you if they meet at night, in private or not. and if they do, i may be able to tell you why

Does this name ring a bell? Aleister Crowley.

He was an Occultist of the highest order.
Tell him he wasn't a satanist.

MiddleDimension:
you are asking me what the origin of ''hidden'' is?
pls don't ask This question like the occult is a particular organization, religion, sect, etc.

I WILL DEFINITELY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. but before then, pls tell me how many deciples did Jesus have?

The Occult is a term which describes certain activities done in secret. Every group of people who practice mysticism, belonging grand lodges, practicing magic, Zodiacal and numerical readings, does astral projects, chakras, palm reading, enchantments, divination, sorcery. they are all Occult.



Again, i refuse to be swerved. Stay on point pls.

MiddleDimension:
I will show you the those scriptures definitely. but pls tell me how many disciples did Jesus have
again you speak like the occult is an organization. why don't you mention the particular organization you are referring to, and if i know them, then i with be able to tell you if they meet at night, in private or not. and if they do, i may be able to tell you why

I refuse to let you distract me here. When we done with you telling me who is at helm of Occult, i'll be more than happy to talk about the Lord Jesus.

Have you ever heard of the Occult grand masters? These masters, who is their master?

MiddleDimension:
you are asking me what the origin of ''hidden'' is?
pls don't ask This question like the occult is a particular organization, religion, sect, etc.

I WILL DEFINITELY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. but before then, pls tell me how many deciples did Jesus have?

Guy, don't be clever.

I asked the Source (call it origin if you like) of the Occult, don't swerve the discussion of course.

You finish one before you proceed to the next.

The Power you guys brandish, where does it come from? Who is at the helm of all Occultic movements?

Who see better go ogbonor?

To come chop no be to come die.

Lizard for village no go fit be crocrodie for tawn.

kanda na meat.

Eye wey tey for dark e dey see.

Who.dey cry for rain still.dey comot tears

This man dey for here dey brag about Spiritual wife wey dey useless him life for am. Him don forget say na only him be male, no brother. others na women. Him don marry 3 times already, no pikin. maybe him don forget say him need heir.

Make una tell Una king to begin born pikins o before that chair go commot him papa hand.

No be to marry mamiwata everywhere.

I truly do not care what choice you make and what you guys have decided to become. But, what i will not sit back and watch is satanists trying to wear a cloak and lie about their true identity.

Since i grew old enough to reason for myself, i've always heard of Satanists pretending and parading themselves as Christians. In trying to justify their evil, they Jesus was also an Occult.
But, i have never heard about Christian, i mean a disciple of Christian sneaking into Occult in disguise.

Hey People. Jesus is the creator of all including Satan. You can say whatever you like, but the truth remains that satan is a. counterfeiter. Jesus is the Head of them all. The Source.

If there's any similarities between what satan does and what Jesus has done is because, they are all Spirits and the lower must necessarily copy from the Higher.


And MiddleDimention, am waiting.

MiddleDimension:
occult simply means ''hidden''. and yea, Jesus had a secret school, which met in a secret place, known by a secret name, and also had secret disciples. all of these claims are clearly shown in pages of new testament.

the only reason these claims are unbelievable, heretical and blasphemous to you is because you have demonized the word, ''occult''.

Pls answer the question. What is the source of the Occult?

MiddleDimension:
occult simply means ''hidden''. and yea, Jesus had a secret school, which met in a secret place, known by a secret name, and also had secret disciples. all of these claims are clearly shown in pages of new testament.

the only reason these claims are unbelievable, heretical and blasphemous to you is because you have demonized the word, ''occult''.

MiddleDimension. You believe that really? Which pages of the New Testament are you talking about?

I have demonized the Occult? Pls let's begin with you tell me the Source of the Occult and why they meet in secret and in the middle of the night.

I will really like to study these New Testament passages with you. Pls bring them up.

ccarefulwind2:
I make it clear on these day, that just as we have good and bad pastors, imams, monks, spiritualists, etc [b[ that is how we also have good and bad Occultists. [/b]

There are always two sides to a coin.

The occult (hidden knowledge) itself is not evil, people make it look evil. Though, you have to be careful not to be mislead by the left hand path walkers, allowing them to pollute your studies will do you more harm than good.

As for me, i prefer the right hand path and once in a while, i jump to the middle path, to keep me abreast with whats going on, on the other path.

Note: The right hand path is better and more safer, than the middle path and the left hand path.

There is nothing to be afraid of the Occultist, they are humans with emotions like you, so don't be afraid to walk up to them and ask them about their practices, they will gladly accept you with open arms, if your motives are genuine.

Thanks

Peace...

You mean by the bolded that there's good and bad satan. If you believe the Black and White witches lie being sold by agents of satan then, sorry o.

Why is Occult hidden you won't answer. What or who is it's source?

Abbeybailey:
Believe me my sister, you ain't seen nothing yet. Let Pelosi and her team grab the gavel and you will see the pig really goes into the sewage he belongs when they subpoenaed the IRS for his tax papers. This past election is a big boom for us who is on Trump Resistance Movement.

Don't be surprised how things will turn. Did you in your wildest imagination envisage Trump winning the election? I didn't, yet there he is, the president.

ccarefulwind2:
* you say it is only the creator or the manifacturer of the invention that can tell me what the invention is and what is for? Yet you call it satanic for one to go in search of the creator, to know how the invention came about?

Your evasiveness is commendable. You refuse to say who the source of Occult is.

Did the Creator say you should search for him through the Occult hidden knowledge? Are you sure you believe that Jesus is the creator of Heaven and Earth, the Source of all things.
The Bible is an open book. The Holy Spirit is readily accessible, yet you need the Occult to know Jesus? lolz

ccarefulwind2:
Very funny. * * we still came back to the point of these thread. All i sense from you, just like others before you, is fear of the unknown, when you dare into the occult

If you know satan as i know him, he'lll cease from being a monumental mystery to you. Then you'd know that not everyone accords him reverence that you do. I am human created in God's image, he is not. I am vested with the glory of God. he is darkness and will remain so. he is so jealous of me to the point of trying to kill me.

If you know what fear is, you won't attribute to me. Isn't it insane to be fearful of dark in the middle of day light? I live in Light, i can never fear darkness.

ccarefulwind2:
And in defense to these fear, you accuse them (occultists) of being satanists, dark and evil, forgetting that these accusations has also been discovered times without numbers in your church. But you prefer not to admit it. *

I will respond to this if you'd tell me their Source. Everything has a source, What is the source of Occult?

ccarefulwind2:
. * i tell you, do not be afraid of them, for they are among the best and bright minds you will always meet.*

You really make me laugh with this your delusions.

I don't need to go into the Occult to know Satan. I know him.

Enjoy your occultism. Everyday that passes is a countdown to us dying. When we do, you'd wish you heed my warning and left satan alone.

Good bye.

ccarefulwind2:
I still stand by my words

Oh Well. It's either you ve been talking to a Christian Science devotee or a Spiritualist, an agent of Satan in the midst of the Sheep.

Their time go come.

ccarefulwind2:
read the book then we will discuss more on it

My hands are full right now. I just finished True Christianity Vol. 1 & 2. I reading Divine Love and Divine Wisdom. Divine Providence is waiting for me. So, i don't have to read any Conspiracy theory by an Occult who believes satan created the universe.

ccarefulwind2:
Trying to know the deeper things of YHWH, which not everybody knows, is called what?

It's call growth. And, it's not hidden and done in secret.