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SolutionMee:

Yes! It will make you to be well recognized in hell.
All Christian music that I've heard all through my life required the expertise of a sound engineer and the use of studio equipments. A music made with earthly instruments is an heavenly music once the name Jesus is mentioned in the humanly written lyrics.
Nigerian Christians are potential threats to the human race and to development in our dear country.

Hahahahahahahha. You are so ignorant. If satan could create a Single thing ranging from the Mineral Kingdom (from Which all the musical instrument comes from), to Vegetable Kingdom, and Animal Kingdom, he would have created his own world. He can not. The only thing at his disposal is perversion and counterfeit.

You Ignorantly accords God's creation to satan when all he does is steal, and usurp the glory.

God created everything on earth including satan. Satan has nothing to his name as far as this earth is concern. When his time here is up, he'll be picked and dropped in Hell exactly as he came here.

I don't care to take you through the Bible to show you the first humans God gave the talents to make musical instruments. Or, you probably believe that all the instrument of music the Jews used to praise YWHW was manufactured by satan.

Stop worshipping sastan man, he is nothing, that is why he hides.

Deckline:
I need a convincing answer to this.
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Is it a sin
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Will a christian really go to hell just for listening to secular music
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Modified- There have been series of hell revelations where preachers saw victims in hell for hearing secular music.
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Now i know we live by faith not by sight but,

How true is this?

I personally do not think listening to circular music will take a Christian to Hellfire. But do you that every Music gives praise to something or someone? Who do you think receives praise for the music you listen to? Jesus?

Remember Music originated from Heaven and remember the rule it plays. God dwells in the wings of Praise and He demands it from us. Lucifer, before his fall was in charge. of Music in heaven, he knew the effect it has in God, hence he sort to divert it from God to Himself.

God created Man to worship and praise Him primarily. But, he got swayed by satan and began making music inspired by satan which is opposed to God and in praise of the activities of satan.

So, if you are a true Christian, you should seek to please your Master by praising Him Continually.

Sir, before anything becomes manifest, it has existed substantially first, So ask yourself this and answer yourself. What is the Source of this Music you Listen to? And, who does it glorify?

Come out from Amongst them...

solite3:
yes there is but that is not the love of God. I said God's love from the beginning.

Okay. You are talking about one kind of Love but refuse to see the other.

Sir, what i'm trying to say is, the same source from where God's love emanates from in godly people, is the same for evil people.

Whatever controls you, steers you to Will what you do delightfully, is your Love. Love for Junkies is getting high.

DeSepiero:
Atleast, you learnt a thing.

Hahahahahahaha. Thanks for the lecture. You wish!!!

DeSepiero:
I actually believe religious people (including Christians) are more likely to abandon use of logic and critical thought, and stick to dogmatic beliefs and superstitions as influenced by their religion.

Okay. Hold unto that belief bros. whatever gives you the kick.

Mikefrik:
please am in serious need of help. I'm suffering from masturbation, I've tried everything I could. I have been to churches, prayed, fasted, infact I have preached the gospel and many more and I am now about giving up on the power of God for the freedom of man. is it that man cannot be free? or do we depend on the grace of God to take us to his kingdom? does the grace of God takes a man to the kingdom after death?. right now as I am typing this, I am dead spiritually and don't know how or what to do to bring myself to my former self #spiritual man. I'm called to serve God but this sin has made me backslided. if only I am free!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

DeSepiero:
You're wrong! Every atheist doesn't hate Christ and his followers. I believe what atheists hate is the abandonment of reason and critical thought for dogma which is often the case in religious circles. Atheists must have friends and family who are Christians which they love.

Wait! Do you seriously believe that atheists think more rationality than Christians or you are saying this becos that is the general atheistic thought?


If there's any irrationality amongst men, found amongst those who believe only what they can see.

DeSepiero:
In essence, within the context of this discuss the same thing holds isn't it?

Within the context of this Op, it is.

Every Atheist hates Christ and His followers, they careless if someone is a Muslim, but be a Christian, if they can't bully you down, they pretend friendship then disparage and malign the Lord by Pointing to the blindness of their eyes with the hope of getting you to be as blind as they are.

So, yeah, it is.

DeSepiero:
Distraction isn't always towards a wrong course. Is it?

When a word is used outside context, it can be made to mean anything. But within this context, distraction is making an effort to turn someone away from his course. So it's imperative that we remember within contexts.

solite3:
so someone who has experienced God's love does not know what love is? you seem to suggest love can exist outside God. are my right?

you are simply repeating what I said. Love itself has its origin from God, do you agree?


that is why I told you God's love is the only true love. love cannot produce evil actions. Are you saying love is what instigate people to kill others? passion is not love. you seem to suggest that even lust is love.
hatred can also be driving force. so you are wrong whatever drives a man to do something is not love.


if this is what you think love is then you don't know what it is.
the sun does not care about its objects but love cares about its object

but can you at least agree that there's such thing as 'Love for the world and the things of the World, like Money?

How does Jesus look like?

These people won't stop. Satan is black, Jesus is black, now Buddha sef is black. Hahahahaha. who is left?

Deckline:
The punishment i'm referring to is after death. Not karma or retribution of any kind. No mercy in hell. That is the punishment i'm talking about.

Okay.

Deckline:
My intention is to bring to the awareness of christians how very close communication with umbelievers can sever the relationship between them and God.
No caustic emoticons.

Thank you. Your Sense correct.

Deckline:
Thank you.
Btw- I don't pity atheists. They deserve whatever punishment the most high hips upon them.

Bros, the Most High hips no punishment for anyone. Just that the law of retributive justices catches up with offenders.

Adam was given a choice to choose between Knowledge and Life. If he chose life, he'd live, if chose knowledge, he'd have rejected life, then he'd die. He chose Knowledge in the place of Life, so he died. God didn't punish him with sickness, old age and death, he chose them.

Deckline:
I am a christian. A proud christian. I'm not gonna compromise my faith.

Good. Stand by your faith. He doesn't have anything going for him, he wants to destroy yours.

Ask yourself this. What do i stand to loose if i stand and die with Jesus? What is there to gain if i become Antichrist?

Remember, all atheists are Antichrist.

DeSepiero:
Why does he want to be your best friend?

He obviously want to distract him.
We choose our paths...

Deckline:
Guys,i need your advice.. I really have been trying to grow spiritually.
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I have been able to convince some few folks about Jesus except this particular guy.
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He brought all scientific and philosophical theories to disprove the existence of God. The same nonsense the umbelievers here seem to do.
Now he is telling me he would love me to be his best friend.
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The bible says
"be not unequally yoked together with umbelievers,for what fellowship hath light with darkness,or what communion hath Christ with Belial or what agreement hath the temple of God with idols".
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Friends please,i just need your opinion on this.
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God bless!

This is the Word of God. If He is your Master, you'd take His warning seriously.

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
Psalm:1:1

Don't keep company of anyone who insults your father to your face. If he disrespects your father, what will he do to you?

Flattino:

Have you ever heard 'Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in Vane?
What did Jesus Christ do for you call his name as common as you did?

solite3:
Love drives us to do anything both good or evil? I don't think so. one of the character of love is that it doesn't rejoice in evil. A human who is only born naturally does not know what true love is. humans may exhibit a spark of love only because they were initially created in God's image but corrupted by sin. it is not love that drives people to do evil but sin.

You are yet to know what love is then. Everything is not just black and white sir. There's not just one kind of love.

Yes, God created Man all good, and the expectant result should have been positive and godly actions all through, but the truth is, Man is now corrupt and an evil seed is now planted inside of him which is moving him to do evil. That evil energy is what his love has become.


Whatever propels you to do a thing is your love. If you are on the side of Truth, your love will produce good actions, but if you are on the side of Falsity, your love will produce evil actions.


The Sun was created to give Life to the inhabited earth, not destroy it, but people still die of Sunstruck. If you expose yourself to the Heat of the Sun unwisely, what happens?

bloodofthelamb:
Anas09, the summary of all you have said is this, "love is an unseen force within that drives us."

Am I right?

Yes sir.

solite3:
yes o I only know of God's pure undying love.

any love that does not have its origin from God is nothing but a facade and a deep deceit.

Like I said the definition of love is difficult because love itself has its origin from God, it is an attribute of God.
let me give you the characters of love.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

charity here means love.

love itself has its origin in God

1 John 3:16
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:9
In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

True. But, Love is what Wills you to do whatever you do, good or evil. Love is like our Souls. It's in us, where? which part does it reside? No one knows, but it's there. We only know about it when it manifests.

bloodofthelamb:
Love is a Being, God. Hence has no specific definition. The eternal God who is love cannot be defined but can be known through his attribute and manifestation.

But if you have the true definition of love, I will be glad to hear it.

Solite3 rightly said that Love is hard to define. But my understanding of Love is that, Love is the underlying reality of everyone. What i mean by that, Love is resident in all of us. Its there without us knowing about it, silently waiting to manifest itself through us.

You are your Love. Your Love is you, just like your soul is you. You Exude your Love. You are who you are or what you are based on your Love.

Love is a force, like a hidden current in us. It drives and propels us to do certain things, good or bad, depending on what we yield ourselves to. Our Loves is what we Will to do.

Love is like an engine inside of each an everyone of us, It steers and dominates us. What you Love occupies your thoughts. It becomes your Purpose, your dream or aspiration. You think about it, you talk about it always even when you don't mean to. It shapes you.

Whatever you do delightfully without hesitation or compulsion is your Love. That is why Love is manifested in action. But it emanates from a hidden engine room inside of us.

Love is your heat. The powerful force that moves you to take certain actions good or evil.

If what informs your Love is godly, then it'll steer you to manifest the characteristics the Bible takes about, but if its ungodly? It turns you to a monster. They are certain people who derives joy when others suffer. They shed blood delightfully. They love it. Some cannot enjoy sex except it is forced and in pain, it's love. Love is not necessarily godly.

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. I may have the gift of inspired preaching; I may have all knowledge and understand all secrets; I may have all the faith needed to move mountains—but if I have no love, I am nothing. I may give away everything I have, and even give up my body to be burned—but if I have no love, this does me no good.

1 Corinthians:13:1-3

Apst Paul says whoever we are and whatever we do, useless it is coming from a place inside of us propelled by that Force, Love, it is useless before God. He went on to mention the ways that Heat or force is manifest in us.

Love is patient and kind; it is not jealous or conceited or proud; love is not ill-mannered or selfish or irritable; love does not keep a record of wrongs; love is not happy with evil, but is happy with the truth. Love never gives up; and its faith, hope, and patience never fail.

Check the attributes above, they are all expressed towards God and people around us. If your Heat is positive, you'd be patient, kind, you won't be proud, arrogant, haughty, over bearing, hard to get along with, controlling, you won't be jealous and envious of others, you wont pile up offences, but will forgive. If your love is godly, you won't hate others. you won't approve of evil. You won't celebrate the down fall of another person. When someone is hungry, you'll give him something to eat without thinking of how you'll benefit from doing so (getting praises).

The same thing the Force in godly people drives them to do, is the same force in ungodly people too, but now negatively.

Ungodly Love is Love for Self.
When you love yourself you'd be concerned with everything that relates to you and will benefit you directly or indirectly.

The Love of Money for example. If you love money, you'd do anything to make it. Your heart will be in money 24/7. You'd think, talk it, sleep it, strategize it. You'd redirect other people's wealth to yourself. You'd come up with skills to do it. Your passion will be money making, you pursue it by all means.
You'd lie, cheat, kill, maim, control and manipulate others all because you must make money.

Why? So that you'd rule others, oppress and control them. Jesus says Love not the World or the things of the world... What this means is, do not allow your Heat/Passion, driving force, to be negative.


What ever Drives You is your Love.

You can love Sex, Food, fashion, alcohol, music, Art, Nature or people or their opposites. But, it all emanates from some place within you.

You get my point?

OpenYourEyes1:
People need to be careful about President Trump. I do not think he is what Christians think he is.
He and his Son inlaw are obsessed with 666 mark of the beast.

How do you mean?

How is Jesus pronounced in Hebrew pls?

I never even knew Rene was a Pastor. His mouth is too loud in. criticism to be a pastor. Everything he sees, he talks.

nwabekeyi:
lolz, atheist use to call you lots retards, now I know why. lolz

Hahahahahahahaha. This is too high for you boy, go on and play Naijabet. That's where brainless lowlives like you are.

solite3:
yea, true but that is not the true love. the carnal mind does not love God truly or anything that has to do with God.

I guess you are referring to God's Love. God's love is a type of Love you know?

What i meant is Universal Love. Love in Essence.

before we start talking about God's Love, What is Love in itself is my question.

MrPresident1:
When you see him when he comes and he is not white, give him bleach.

Jesus is coming for the whole world and not for black people alone, but he is a black man.

You can continue your antichrist work until he returns.

Hahahahahahahaha. You thought i was going to call you a heretic? You quickly ran off calling me antichrist. lol. Don't you realize that True Christians can dictate an antichrist? Anyways, know that all you are writing will be waiting for you to defend in the Afterlife.

bloodofthelamb:
A tree is known by its fruits. So also things are known by their manifestation, attributes or characteristics.

Sir, just say you don't know what Love is.

MrPresident1:
You are doing the work of an antichrist.

MrPresident1. I think to rightly direct that assertion, you shd look in the mirror.


You spread nothing close to what Jesus preached. He says 'Love God will everything you are and Love your neighbour as yourself. Who is your neighbour and how are you loving them? by trying to steer hate?

zzzzy:
Link . Use 2018 as password when decompressing

Couldn't get through. I usually use MP3Skulls.com in the past. let me try again

solite3:
The true definition of love is very hard, when I mean love I mean God's type of love.
God himself is the definition of love, to experience God is to experience love. There is no evil in love as evil itself is the opposite of what love is.

Yes sir. Indeed the definition of Love is very hard. And again, there's a negative or evil love. People who take delight in evil thins love and enjoy those things, that is love too.