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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:11pm On Jun 06, 2025
LordAdam16:
In America, don't f*ck with people's money.
Elon did not run SpaceX with only his money. He did not rescue Tesla with only his money. He did not purchase X with only his money.
If you carry strong head, they'll bundle you out of your own company.
Did a democrat judge not cancel Musk's $56B Tesla compensation package and award $345m to the guys who sued him?
Why do you think Gwynne Shotwell is COO and President of SpaceX?

If Elon Musk becomes an impediment to progress of his companies, he'll be forced to step down.
Trillions are at stake. US national interests are at stake.
You think folks are going to sit and watch their billions disappear into thin air because a Sperg chose to pick a fight with POTUS.
Let's not talk about the US military. So Elon will say he wants to bar US military use of Starlink and General Caine will sit and twiddle his thumbs. How?

It's not about Trump. It's the power of office and the fact that Musk has powerful enemies who are looking for the slightest excuse.
A barely lucid Biden canceled his $56B pay and his $1B rural broadband contract, but he wants to duel with a vindictive Trump.

All Elon has done is the typical African breaking of bottle.
No b say e 1 fight. Na activity mk Trump for know say his patience is tired and that things gat change.
Trump cannot rob Peter (Elon) to pay Paul (special interest groups). Collect person $300m start dey blow "conflict of interest" grammar.
For this Washington?


-Lord
I agree with the general sentiment presented here, but disagree on the personalities involved, which I think you're conflating. A POTUS has power to weaken the richest man in the world, granted, but said person needs the ruthlessness & wickedness to achieve it, both of which Trump lacks. That's why I started by asking what so-called vindictive Trump has done about the people who literally tried to pick his top like the lottery. He has done ZILCH.

Instead, he's promoted them, appointed their cronies and continued to push the same agenda. In fact, apart from immigration, there's been no real difference between this administration and the one before. For e.g Deborah Birx that admitted to misleading the president as CDC director, has been backchanneled to the same Trump administration through Palantir like you mentioned. So yea, I'm on record (as time will tell), saying Trump cannot do s**** to Elon. Absolutely nothing. That's a fact.

From Zelensky, Lindsey Graham, Thomas Tilis the list is endless. I can reel out names of people who bullied him and he cowered. He even asked his base to primary Massie but reelect Lindsey. That's not a POTUS who has any cojones. Everyone can see it. Do you think district judges would've challenged Biden the way they've done to Trump? LOL. You know the answer. The BBB that's the major cause of him and Elon's issue isn't even his bill. Johnson said they'd worked on it 14 months ago. Trump hasn't even been POTUS for half that. But he's fighting Elon on Truth Social rather than take charge of his govt where everyone undermines him.

Anyway, to avoid a much longer post. I'd just say, remember Operation Warp Speed? This is it ...again. Tomorrow isn't far. Breeze go soon blow.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 12:36pm On Jun 06, 2025
LordAdam16:
Elon himself has acknowledged that if Trump had not won, he was a goner.
Harris and the Democrats would have wrecked him.
Trump can hurt him. That much is clear. He is in a weak position as well -- tesla sales have been declining -- courtesy of the DOGE fallout.

But there's a lot at stake, financially and politically, so there'll be an intervention.
The likes of Thiel (the Don of the PayPal Mafia which Musk is a member of) and Ackman are working the phones non-stop.
Elon has already walked back the SpaceX Dragon shutdown pledge. Trump is scheduled to have a call with him later today.

-Lord
Democrats practice lawfare which Republicans don't. Otherwise, Trump would've started by hurting the very people who attempted assassinating his character before they settled on assassinating him at Butler, PA.

You're one of the most knowledgeable people I read from on US politics so it is kind of surprising to see you guzzling Trump's bluster. What is a Tesla when the entire USA space program depends on Elon? Theres no Ukraine offensive without Starlink. The government contracts were signed under the Biden Administration that despised him, not because they love him but his company is the only competent one that offered dirt cheap quotation vs what Russia would've billed the USA for the same service. Trump holds no cards and Elon did not walk back anything. He was begged into doing so. Even the NASA spox quickly rushed to say they'd continue with all contracts except expressly directed by POTUS to shift focus. Even NASA knew they work at Elon's behest. I'm sure you know this.

What's this desire to protect Trump's completely buffooning government? This is the same way he didn't listen during C-19 era and levied the inflation many Americans are still dealing with today.

Anyway, the midterms will be a bloodbath for the GOP and the latter 2 years of Trump's presidency will be him getting impeached again by the Democrats who will steal the house again and render him a lame duck president. Of course, you know how many politicians & district court Judges will take a bribe from Elon to facilitate whatever frustrations he wants to mete out on Trump.

Game of Thrones shouldn't be a source of wisdom. Money can always be converted to power.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:20pm On Jun 06, 2025
Enzo5:
U guys are very reactionary, one match is all it takes for you to hype one player and trash another
Because people don't analyze. They comment. If a player plays poorly, people don't think "why is he playing poorly"? "What would I do in that situation if I was the player in question"? "What should his manager do to help him play better"? That will be too cumbersome. Who get time?

The safest comment is "X player is bad". Nigerian education of give the professor the exact answer he's looking for or you will fail. Only few people actually post comments that get you thinking "hmm, that makes sense. I never thought about it".
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:28am On Jun 06, 2025
drisham:
Time will tell

I like cherki a lot and he will come good

Wirtz is also solid but I'm only trolling him cos of pool fans

Criticized us for signing caicedo at such amount only to do same 2 seasons later
Liverpool is an insecure club. I've said it here. But Wirtz is a baller. I'm not going to be salty about him not picking City to diminish his impact.

Truth be told, I wanted him @ €150m thinking we'd still go for Cherki. But soon as he selected Liverpool, I'm content with the work we've done thus far. Just to add a RB (probably Livramento) and I'm good to go.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:26am On Jun 06, 2025
Gucciboy:
Still no agreement because city are shamelessly trying to scam lyon with €23m and that's not happening.

You guys better be fast
We are all speculating but L'equipe said City offered that based on it being the release clause. Lyon, on the other hand are denying the release clause or saying it is no longer binding. I doubt Viana would have offered that as a troll. So chances are, he got that information from Cherki's agent.

I also read that Lyon have some financial issues and will prefer the deal be done before July so they can cover some of their financial lapses from the previous financial term. All speculations like I said.

One thing is sure though, Cherki himself spoke to the French media after this game and when asked where he'd play next season he responded:

"We all know where I'd be next season. We are only focused on playing the final game [against Germany] and the deal will be announced".

I know the player has already agreed personal terms and only wanted City (Slot tried before finding out Wirtz wanted them). So I'd say, I'm fairly confident it is already over the line. Perhaps, we sweeten it for Lyon & pay £30m = €40m approx. Worst case, £35m or €47.5m.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:18am On Jun 06, 2025
raumdeuter:
Wirtz will get bugged down with the 130m price tag

Every missed pass, missed chance will end with 130m chant
💯. That's the only problem. Plus taking everyone's time in making a decision like he's Lebron or something. It pissed me off but the guy is wickedly good.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:38pm On Jun 05, 2025
Spanish midfield without Rodri is so chaotic. They've been unable to control any game since Rodri's injury. Just like the Netherlands fixture, Zubimendi, Fabian Ruiz, Merino are all tremendously inferior to that 1-man machine.

BdO for a reason.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:07pm On Jun 05, 2025
Gucciboy:
Let me say it now,l hope Chelsea hijacks cherki tomorrow
Almost impossible now because he already said after the game that the deal was done.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:04pm On Jun 05, 2025
AirBere:
I'm with you especially for that price. He'll dribble EPL boys eh. That guy technique on the ball no be here. grin grin
The guy sabi space & angles when it comes to passing. That's KdB level vision. Very few players have it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:03pm On Jun 05, 2025
drisham:
Now Ryan cherki is the definition of a class player been following him this season

City have a gem on their hands


Not that yeye wirtz wey no good at all
The bot got me for my post on Viana but truth be told, Wirtz is slightly better than Cherki for now. I just prefer Cherki for being cheaper and WANTING City.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:38pm On Jun 05, 2025
Beef Cherki.

My guy.

Better than Auschwirtz by FAAR.

Don't @ me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:26pm On Jun 05, 2025
I was about to type:

Lamal is better than I even think he is.

Then he scored, again.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:42pm On Jun 05, 2025
If you don't win it back to back to back, it was a fluke.

If you don't understand it, you're an illiterate.

L grin GIC una
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:51pm On Jun 02, 2025
Dembele's likelihood of winning the BdO has improved drastically since Saturday. PSG, Paris as a City, Roland Garros, even Macron have started campaigning for him. Popularity contest for a reason. I'm happy for him. He always had the talent.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:29pm On Jun 02, 2025
Capaldi:
Performed miracles with Pedri, Olmo, Ferran, Yamal, Curbasi, Fermin, Garcia that won the Euros and Olympic last summer plus having kounde, Balde, Lewandowski etc Performed miracles with Madrid having only rudiger as their senior center back fit this season plus losing Carvajal to an Acl with vibes and inshallah as coach. If Flick performed miracles then there are no words to describe what Conte and Slot did this season.
Were those players not there when RM won La Liga with like 10 games to spare last season? The Spain squad that won Euros & Olympics didn't have RM players that Ancelotti should've coached to win & play like Flick?

You're capable of making stronger arguments than this.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:22pm On Jun 02, 2025
lordfalcao:
There is nothing you will write about poch that will make me believe he was the right man.

Even Popizaino his staunch supporter who wanted him, when we were frowning. Surrendered after game week 3.
You're a CFC fan so your standards for your club should obviously be higher than mine for it. The contention was whether all CFCs problems were Poch's or external. I argued they were mostly external. Squad injuries, almost no input in recruitment plus imbalance in depth and quantity. Nobody has convinced me that your major problems were tactical. The same Maresca out chants still rang throughout this thread as well. In fact, any criticisms Poch faced at CFC, even worse could be levied at EM. The only difference is, Newcastle, Villa & Nottingham Forest derailed at an expedient time for CFC so ...UCL qualification.

As a non CFC fan, I'll say, I'm happy EM is your manager. I only have Slot to worry about this season in the EPL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:57am On Jun 02, 2025
Bimmarlykay:
😁😁😁😁 Folks here can so dream,bring agendas, change mouth faster than lightning and still feel shameless doing so, allow them we'll see their performance in CWC & next UCL.

LOL.
You know them very well. Unprincipled. Fair-weather friends.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:50am On Jun 02, 2025
My eyes. I'm so pained by what I'm reading.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 12:47am On Jun 02, 2025
AirBere:
Absolutely spot on. It's why nobody on this thread or anywhere else in the world can convince me otherwise about what happened between Barcelona and Real Madrid.

People predicted a dominant Madrid season after their super cup win on this thread, some gave them the UCL already because they have the greatest coach in UCL history, supposed bdor winner Vini, Belingham and of course the icing on the cake Mbape(best player in the world). The season started and they got whooped by Barca and barely made the top 24 in UCL and the story changed to the worst Madrid in the last 10 years lol. So whenever Barca wins, it's the worst Madrid but when Madrid win, it's deserved lmao.

Flick worked miracles with literally the same players Xavi said won't be able to compete. With Xavi, they're not winning the league with Mabape on board, not happening.
Scroll back to when RM beat Atalanta on this same thread. Should be around August 2024. You'll see the ITKs I'm referring to who later switched mouths like Bobby Brown. You might find some of the 'neutrals' you're now being told never sang the high praises of this RM team. Remember- the same team that had just won the La Liga and UCL with a potential BdO in Vinicius & Jude Bellingham according to them. That same team now added Mbappé.

If there's any evidence of people waxing lyrical about City's chances this past season, I'll like someone to point me to the evidence. What signing excited the neutrals? What did City achieve the previous season that was going to motivate them to win all & how did City prove that was their focus?
SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 8:38pm On Jun 01, 2025
steady986:
That award could have gone either way to be honest. They both deserved it
This is my position too. Both held their own. I'm slightly biased towards Tyrese Haliburton though. For some obvious and not too obvious reasons. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:23pm On Jun 01, 2025
User09:
Naa.

Ure not getting off easy. The bolded is what I need you to admit, seeing as you were making a case for him angry

Couldnt care less about the intern that is Maresca
That's why I was surprised when I saw you as part of the mentions on Maresca.

My position on Poch was that he didn't do a bad job considering the cards he was dealt. I also argued he had figured out his team during the 2nd half of the season and it reflected in the final position, general play and improvements across board. Cole Palmer's best performances were still under Poch. The team shifted from 12th to 6th and lost a final to Liverpool. To me, this was passable enough to give him another season with Lavia, Caicedo and all the other players Boehly threw more money at. I personally believe, CFC would've finished above City this past season (based on how things went) vs Maresca. I also think CFC would've beat City at the Etihad when we were god-level-awful. I also think your team would have played better. Lastly, given CFC were 2nd at some point, I wager Poch would've likely stayed there than drop to a fortunate 4th position.

But ....But.... grin

The people who at some point argued that it wouldn't have mattered if CFC finished lower than 6th this season (in their evaluation of Maresca) now want to latch unto his finishing higher to defend him. That's disingenuous when not laughable. They know themselves.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:08pm On Jun 01, 2025
A40:
You're yarning dust as usual. Them dey give bonus trophy for unbeaten run or what?

They don't need no damn Gyokeres or Osimhen. They won the treble without them. What did Gyokeres or Osimhen achieve with their respective teams?

This PSG with Doue, Barcola, Kvara have not even peaked yet. Their style of play makes a striker just a bonus and not a must have
They give you a Golden UCL trophy for finishing unbeaten but a silver one for losing 4 games in the group stages. In fact, there are some seasons where you may not even be given the UCL trophy if you didn't win it unbeaten. That's why PSG need a traditional striker. If you don't agree, you're an illiterate.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:03pm On Jun 01, 2025
I prefer to go for a team with 26 unbeaten runs, led by a traditional striker in Haaland. Let PSG break this legendary record without a striker before twerking for them.
This statement presupposes that City's unbeaten run was a direct result of having a traditional striker.

This type of reasoning shouldn't be encouraged in schools or institutions where serious learning and critical thinking is celebrated.

There is ZERO correlation between City going unbeaten vs having a traditional striker. ZERO.

You're better of even claiming Pep's Green Richard Mille Sapphire was the reason City went unbeaten.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:56pm On Jun 01, 2025
pkasso:
You were quick to criticize Enrique right from the start, ignoring the fact that he was trying to change the identity and philosophy of that PSG team. Implementing all those changes wasn't always going to be fast and seamless. In his second season, he has delivered a first CL for his club, winning the final in the most dominant fashion ever seen, after losing the best player in the world. Guy, just eat the humble pie!

I like how you used another of your victims, Ancelotti take cancel Flick. Sense no go kill you grin Let's pretend anyone gave Barca any chance of competing with Real this year. Not only did Flick win, he won in style playing some of the most entertaining football we have all seen in a while and a flawless Clasico record to boot. All with 0 signings!

I know you too well to go down on back-and-forths with you. All your shalaye doesn't change anything. This Double L dey your forehead like tattoo. You just can't see it grin grin
Capaldi, I'm not piling on you but Flick performed miracles this season. Just that he has the same mental problems that Pep has & it is associated with some level of genius. They are incredibly stubborn about their philosophies. Other than that, people need to remember that even on this thread, after RM won the UEFA super cup, some of the ITKs rushed to brandish them the potential UCL repeat winners again. Everyone waxed lyrical about Kylian and what he was going to achieve. This season was supposed to rival or better what Erling did in 22/23. On the other hand, Barca were being referred to as Brokealona etc. They could barely register players. Financial crisis poju. Flick wasn't supposed to win anything. He was just supposed to finish a respectable 2nd whilst Laporta steadied the wobbly ship. Some of their now established starters had to be sourced from the academy. This was supposed to be Ancelotti, Mbappé, RM's season. Flick performed miracles this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:39pm On Jun 01, 2025
timbros:
What are you on about? Or don't you know that Liverpool won the title because they have a tradional number 9? Nunez whooping 5 goals and 2 assists shot Liverpool to the title..

Am I wrong, airmark?
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:35pm On Jun 01, 2025
timbros:
How is it irrelevant?
It is irrelevant because it disproves his claim which is not allowed in the Citadel.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:34pm On Jun 01, 2025
Kimbeast:
Joselu with 32mins played through out the entire knock out stage and 4mins in the final. You got jokes
He graduated from the Citadel of Slow-thinkers. His area of specialization is looking for isolated, uncorrelated instances to make generalizations.

It pains me in the chest when that guy (the founder of the school) proves to be influential. I give him credit for that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:11am On Jun 01, 2025
drisham:
Not forgetting they spent
90m on kolo muani who flopped
75m on goncalo ramos who is a flop
And 60m on ugarte who is useless



There's literally no manual to these things
Inter where clearly out of practice. Simone had rested his team for the final game against Como FC knowing the reserves could do the job. The 2 week rest IMHO affected them negatively. They seemed tired and not in sync. I know everyone seems to figure everything out in hindsight, but he should have used his starters against Como as the 9-day rest would still have kept them fresh.

That said, they weren't going to beat PSG but the game would've been closer. Just that people were too focused on supporting the winner that it was hard to tell that PSG are not 5 unreplied goals better than Inter.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:05pm On May 31, 2025
As for the people mentioning me about Maresca. You are correct. He is the best manager ever & his contract should be extended for another decade.

What a miracle he performed this season using his multi-billion dollar squad and the best player in the EPL (Cold Palmer) to win a mighty 4th place trophy from 2nd as well as the very prestigious Conference League that West Ham also won recently.

Maresca has been nothing short of a revelation. He took the team that terrible Poch used to finish 6th, all the way to 4th having spent additional millions on the squad. Top-notch improvement if you ask me. This squad will definitely rival PSG next season.

Peace.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:59pm On May 31, 2025
Bimmarlykay:
Android17, remember when we told them that PSG gat the most balanced team,a team capable of muting a crazy Liverpool for more than 90min.

Look at how they made the fluke Assnal and Inter look mediocre immediately.😁
I don't remember o. All I've seen today is everyone knew PSG would win. Inzaghi and Inter are not good. Aston Villa would have beat PSG. Chelsea will match PSG next season and so on. I've seen enough.

Failure is truly an orphan. Only 2 managers have done this by the way and Ancelotti is not one of them. But don't also forget, he's better than Pep. Buahahahahahaha

SportsRe: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:04am On May 17, 2025
I just didn't want the Celtics to win it again so I'm happy they are out.

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