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I'll still come back for Judith Smellingham.

The absence of criticism was frightening.

Finishius should be Ballon D'or cast-offs? Have you guys lost your voices?

Your silence is deafening.

rooftops:
Please a quick question, where is the folden this season?

He has had a write-off of a season but so have City. From Pep to his last techical assistant.

The difference? They have a credible and easily identifiable resume to defend them. What does Palmer have?

But you people were quick to confer a crown on him that he didn't deserve. That's what's happening now.

He's the same Cole Palmer. Your team just isn't getting enough PKs to pad his stats.

Don't forget you were the 2nd placed team this season. You needed the best player in the league to will you to the top like Foden did last season but instead you regressed to 6th.

Uncomfortable truths.

Kilishihunter:
I'm not even talking about who'll qualify cause inter are a big threat on their own too and can also win the tournament but inzaghi being the most tactical is arguable imo
Asides attack Flick introduced the offside trap to Barça which has caught the most players offside in Europe, we were told it would get exposed at the beginning of the season but today Barça is still in the running for a treble, Enrique has also shown he can adapt to defence through the Liverpool and Aston villa games where he pushed his players back, his two full backs do huge jobs offensively and defensively if you notice them, inzaghi attacks mostly through his wing backs via mostly crosses or cutbacks even more than the midfield though the latter excels in their set piece duties, pressing and shooting form range the other coaches use wingers since they don't use 3-5-2, for defence he comes out top for sure

Inter can use route 1. They did it against Bayern to score their first goal. Then they can break you down from the back, use 3rd man late runs, high press etc. They can park the bus effectively and generate chances from corner kicks. They have every tool at their disposal. What they lack is pound for pound talent. Thuram isn't most people's first choice striker, neither is Arnautovic. Lautaro has been middling in the serie A. Conte has tried and untried. As did Gasperini. Yet Inter are still top.

People forget Bayern had tied the game 1-1 towards the tail end of the first leg and what did Inter do shortly after? They broke down Bayern's press very systematically and scored right back. They did it again yesterday. Most coaches almost don't know what to expect when you play them.

andrewbaba44:
I no use Real Madrid win take rate arsenal sha

I understand you. I'm saying, the 0-3 scoreline is inflated and apart from AC Milan vs Deportivo, and Liverpool vs Barcelona overturning a 3-0 is almost impossible. That's why I never weighed in when people were making predictions. Most of it was just prisoners-of-the-moment style analysis. At 3-0, this dysfunctional RM were already out. That's why they went into PR over drive. Teams that usually overturn big results do the talking on the pitch.

What performance have we seen this season to convince anyone RM were going to overturn that 3-0 deficit? Nothing. People only expected some sort of cheating, false penalties, red card etc. That's not tactical. That's emotional. People expected RM to qualify only based on their emotional attachment to do the team.

So everybody should recalibrate and come back to reality. Our common enemy has lost. Now let's go back to remembering why Newcastle beat Arsenal home and away enroute to winning the Carabao cup. There's a reason United knocked them out of the FA cup.

Kilishihunter:
Great points chief but calling inzaghi the best tactician here is a bit of a stretch when there's still Enrique and Flick in this tournament heck even arteta is a master tactician but I won't put him near inzaghi cause of the number of years in management, being conservative most of the time against your fellow giants shouldn't be the standard for being the best

Tactics is beyond just how you attack. Both Flick and Enrique are more tactically adept at attacking but their teams don't replicate the same tactical dexterity in defense for e.g

Think of the many ways Inter generate their chances. Then you'd understand what Inzaghi is doing. The only reason I put Barca qualifying over Inter is because a better attack ultimately will have the upper hand in close ties. It is the same reason City beat them 1-0 during the treble season. We played RM, Bayern and Inter that season. The best team City faced was undeniably Inter.

andrewbaba44:
Liverpool are good ,burn I think arsenal are a little bit better

I never rated psg during the group phase ,I even argued with Kimbeast ,there was a reason he was so sure they would kick out Liverpool,and I later saw everything

15th place PSG beating 1st placed Liverpool should tell people they're not the same team that started the season. Enrique's MSN side didn't start well that season and peaked at the right time. He's done the same thing again with this PSG side.

They've peaked at the crunch hour.

Arsenal are not better than Liverpool. I think people are reading too much into beating this RM side. AC Milan also beat RM 1-3 at the Bernabéu. RM are completely dysfunctional. Liverpool toyed with them in the group stage this season as well.

popizaino:
Pep guardiola on the other hand,had Mandzukic,Robben,Ribbery,Muller,Schweigheter,Kross.The same players had won real madrid a season before so don't make excuse for Pep guardiola whom i stan very well more than you do.

In fact, the disparity between the quality of those, then real madrid and that of bayern Munich is still the same difference in line with this present real madrid team and Arsenal. So accept that Pep guardiola lost home and away.

They beat Mou's RM on Penalties.

raumdeuter:
Lost to a team who had Bale, Benzema Ronaldo Ramos Khedira Casillas DiMaria

Not to an Arsenal without their best defender and without a striker. Losing to a team with Merino as striker, Kiwior as defender plus Lewis Skailey. How many of the Arsenal first 11 yesterday will make 2014 Madrid first 11

Even Tuchale disciplined this same Arsenal last season

and RM scored 3 of their goals from set pieces.

Bimmarlykay:
Am just letting you know P.S.G can match anyone's defence when needed.


Inter also gunning for Treble.🤔

Inter are strong because they have the best tactician left.

Inzaghi knows what to do vs whoever you put in front of him. Whether to be ultra compact, to use setpieces, counter attacking, counter pressing, positional play, route 1 name it. Inzaghi has some trick to try.

Enrique's team has been the most fluid & unpredictable. Incredibly dynamic, pacy, intense. They remind me of City in 2021.

Flick has the best attack in world football at the moment and the most dynamic player in Lamine. Pedri is the best CM in the world.

Arsenal are very structured. Tactically discipline side with work horses everywhere, but they're not dynamic. They beat RM courtesy of 2 otherworldly freekicks & counter attacks at a desperate (and poor) RM.

I'm happy RM lost but you guys are being hyperbolic about Arsenal. It was Tuchel's poor Bayern that knocked them out last season when they were infinitely better than this season.

Time will tell.

andrewbaba44:
Like ,psg wey carry early 1 goal from 12 mins enter extra time to pk ,Walai you can’t do that if you aren’t tactically defensive

That pacho guy was so good that day

That's why I've been laughing.

People truly don't know how good Liverpool are this season. They think its only down to City & others being poor. Not true. Slot is a very good manager. I've been saying it all season.

Of course, w/o the injuries, City & Arsenal would have put up more of a fight. But take nothing away from Liverpool. And therefore people should stop disrespecting this PSG team.

Bimmarlykay:
If P.S.G weren't tactically defensive,they wouldn't have survived Liverpool.

Make una leave punditry na for field everything go play out.😎

People are actually pretending like Liverpool did not make light work of this same RM (not through 2 free kicks when RM were trying to draw 0-0 going back to Bernabéu).

People are actually forgetting how good this Liverpool team has been all season. They are on course to have 90+ pts in the EPL. They got to the Carabao final.

The only reason they're not in the UCL SFs is because they played PSG. They'd have beat Aston Villa too.

andrewbaba44:
Weakest team wey commot English champions

Not just that, COMPLETELY outplayed them home and away, deserving to win by a healthy goals difference in both games.

That's the team people are disrespecting because Villa scored 2 deflected goals AFTER PSG led by 0-2 in the first 20 mins of a game Villa were supposed to come out aggressively for.

As if people don't know PSG had no reason to keep going after they led 1-5 on aggregate. They ignore all that context to talk about Villa almost did. . .

I've just been laughing.

AirBere:
Ok. Credit to the big man then. Which teams do you think will play in the UCL final and who are you going for to take the whole thing?

PSG vs Barca - I think PSG will win it all.

andrewbaba44:
Everyone knows this nah

Dortmund na swegbe

I know. I mean, Inter won't be easy at all. I would have said they're the hardest team you'd face, but PSG match up better against Barca than vs Arsenal for e.g.

AirBere:
Neur is washed man. He was the reason Madrid knocked them out last season.

Yeah, credit to Inter and full credit to Kompany too but I feel Bayern have the better squad but the coach came through for inter.

You know Inter were in the UCL final one season removed from last? Bayern under Tuchel did not win the league.

Alot of people are hesitant to give Kompany his due respect because they think he "relegated" Burnley. Inzaghi would've lost if he had the same squad deficiency caused by injuries.

andrewbaba44:
Inter Milan we meet again

You think I have forgotten the last robbery where we played 3-3 ? That Robbery made us play Europa league

You will get what’s coming for you 😁

Inter are a far better team than Dortmund. And Inzaghi is the best tactician of all the managers left in the UCL.

Phantom foul calls to keep the game exciting.

AirBere:
Top 5 race is so tight. City are more likely to finish 3rd than miss out on top 5. Nothingham forest are gradually losing their steam and may lose out. Chelsea, Newcastle, City and Aston villa are showing better form than Forest.

What a race.

Newcastle still have to play Chelsea. One of y'all will drop extra points. I'm hoping City can capitalize but Pep might have other ideas.

Sportsweb:
So why are you exonerating foden?

Ederson has more assist than him

Foden also has 10 goals.

airmark:
You are the one reversing the question, I didn't ask you to. There's a reason we call Pep, Fraudiola and if that Spurs could knock him out, then imagine what a Slot that did double easily on him in Epl, would do in Ucl.

Slot won your Fraudiola home and away 2-0. Find me a team that did such convincing wins on Fraudiola that your Apari knocked out of UCL. If you can't, then shut the fvck up about Fraudiola having it easy against Slot in Ucl, with Gundongan and Sane.


The assignment for you - Show me a coach that flogged Fraudiola's Man city home and away convincingly in Epl but Fraudiola had it easy against him in Ucl.

I am waiting.

Pep will have it EASIER (not EASY) vs Slot vs Klopp. That was the implication.

EASIER isn't tantamount to being EASY.

If you were educated you'd know the difference. Keep asking stupid questions thinking it is some gotcha.

airmark:
Chelsea defeated your Fraudiola twice in 2021 before doing the triple in the Ucl final. Mumu.

The assignment for you - Show me a coach that flogged Fraudiola's Man city home and away convincingly in Epl but Fraudiola had it easy against him in Ucl. Then you win the argument.

I am waiting.

Shameless airhead. The argument can work in the reverse. City beat Poch's Tottenham home and away in the EPL but crashed out of the UCL to the same team 4-4.

Proving once again that EPL results do not correlate with UCL ones. You have to treat them separately.

airmark:
I gave reason why Liverpool under Slot wouldn't be easier for Fraudiola and you are here bringing Brentford that had slim wins against Fraudiola. You no just get sense.

The assignment for you - Show me a coach that flogged Fraudiola's Man city home and away convincingly in Epl but Fraudiola had it easy against him in Ucl.

I am waiting.

Still asking stupid questions.

You've not given any such reasons. Your entire argument is, since Liverpool beat City 2-0 home and away in the EPL under Slot, therefore Slot has a better chance of beating Pep in the UCL vs Klopp's Liverpool team.

Airhead, you're using EPL results to predict UCL results. We are showing you why that argument is shoddy & asinine.

Everton beat City 4-0 & drew 1-1 in 16/17 season. That same Everton team didn't even qualify for the UCL.

Can't you see that league and UCL results don't show strong correlations? That's why Kim.beast said what he said. You stupidly brought up the EPL results to argue against his UCL take. He cautioned you and you stupidly doubled down.

airmark:
The assignment for you - Show me a coach that flogged Fraudiola's Man city home and away convincingly in Epl but Fraudiola had it easy against him in Ucl.

I am waiting.

You're not giving me any assignment. You are just repeating a stupid question.

I'm showing you teams that beat City home and away in the EPL but weren't even good enough to qualify for the UCL.

To any other reasonable person, that's proof you analyze both competitions independently. But you are unable to reason, Airhead.

airmark:
The assignment for you - Show me a coach that flogged Fraudiola's Man city home and away convincingly in Epl but Fraudiola had it easy against him in Ucl in the same season.

I am waiting.

Still asking stupid questions. City can only face English teams in the EPL. In other words, there's no antecedent to rely on. That's part of why reasonable people do not use EPL fixtures to predict UCL results.

Brentford beat City home and away in the treble season. By your stupid argument, City wouldn't have won the treble if they had faced Brentford instead of RM in the SFs. 2 separate competitions- airhead.

If you're shocked at how stupid it sounds, now you know how we all see you.

airmark:
I'm not sure you graduated with good grade, as you can't use this brain to grab Upper.

The assignment for you - Show me a coach that flogged Fraudiola's Man city home and away convincingly in Epl but Fraudiola had it easy against him in Ucl.

I am waiting.

I have more. EPL vs FA cup.

City beat United 3-0 and 3-1 in the EPL last season but then lost 1-2 to them in the FA Cup final.

Going by the EPL results, should City not have beat United in the FA Cup final?

Well, to smart people, It doesn't work that way. But not to you because you are not smart.

airmark:
I'm not sure you graduated with good grade, as you can't use this brain to grab Upper.

The assignment for you - Show me a coach that flogged Fraudiola's Man city home and away convincingly in Epl but Fraudiola had it easy against him in Ucl.

I am waiting.

Stop bringing up grades, dude. We all know you're uneducated. I'm showing you pattern recognition and common factors. Primary 2 Quantitative reasoning.

Your premise only leaves English teams in the equation. How many English teams have faced City in the UCL?

If you had a brain, you won't have posted this poser.

Let me help you out, the Klopp team that beat City home & away in the UCL lost 5-0 and beat City 4-3 in the EPL fixtures.

Tell me how anyone would have then predicted same team will beat City 3-0 & 2-1 in the UCL going by the EPL fixtures?

You see, that's why smart people compartmentalize the UCL & the EPL when discussing which teams could beat the other.

Airhead for a reason.

airmark:
If you are brilliant you should have shown a team that beat Man City in Epl home and away but later got knocked out by Man City convincingly in the Ucl to make a sense. But you can't give what you don't have.

Now, get to work but don't bring Chelsea in 2021 because that would further expose your stupidity.

Take Newcastle vs Liverpool. They drew and lost to Liverpool in the league but beat same Liverpool in another competition - the Carabao cup.

According to your dumb way of arguing, Slot should have been sure-fire to beat Newcastle in the final going by their EPL antecedents right?

That's why you'd never be described as a bright spot.

airmark:
I have nothing to do with a Nothingham forest that added Milenkovic to a defensive side that faced Klopp. The argument is not Klopp vs Nuno and Slot vs Nuno, you dolt.

The common factor there is Liverpool. Klopp's team and Slot's. Same way you tried to compare them to City's of last season & this season.

If you cannot categorically conclude that Nottingham Forrest would pose a bigger challenge to PSG in the UCL, you cannot make the same claims about Slot vs Pep in the UCL. They are completely different contexts.

Slot has to build that reputation against Pep in the UCL like Klopp did. That's what Kimbeast tried to tell you from the beginning.

I'm tired of toying with you. Now go lick your wounds elsewhere.

airmark:
Na your arm dem cut, no be your brain na.

Why are you stupidly extending the dragnet to irrelevant 3rd party and 4th party when we have just 2 teams in the convo (Man city and Liverpool)? Must you be showing foolishness in every of your post?

Klopp couldn't use this same Liverpool to win Fraudiola last season over two legs but Slot used the team with Salah already on 27 league goals, to flog your team home and away convincingly. No metric indicates that Slot wouldn't have used same Liverpool of red hot Mane and prime Salah to flog Fraudiola's Sane, Gundongan and David Silva in 2018.

Must your head be knocked back to reset before you understand simple analysis?

No metric, but showing you Slot not winning against Nottingham Forrest that Klopp beat is proof you cannot extrapolate an EPL fixture to determine how the UCL pans out - the very first thing Kimbeast pointed out to you.

And you're tripling, quadrupling down like your stupidity will morph into intelligence if you keep repeating it.

airmark:
Balderdash as usual.

Instead of answering the important questions as related to Liverpool last season and this season, in my post or tell us what Klopp played with this same Liverpool team against Fraudiola and compare with what Slot played against same Man city team this season, you were telling us nonsense about Newcastle beating Arsenal.

You no just get sense.

So Nottingham Forrest that Slot couldn't beat would've been a tougher opponent to PSG than Slot's Liverpool right?

Why do you argue like if they transplanted your brain to a Goat's, it would start barking instead of bleating.

You are incapable of seeing the many instances that your terrible arguments collapse under scrutiny.

You're not a bright person.

airmark:


Where did Klopp leave this same Liverpool at the end of last season? Where are the same Liverpool this season under Slot against a tough competition from an improved Arsenal?

You are foolish thinking Slot would have been easier for your Fraudiola that used Gundongan, Sane, David Silva to face red hot Mane, Firminho and boisterous Salah.

If Slot could use old Salah to score 27 goals in 31 matches this season, imagine what he would have produced when he was very hot in 2018? Last season under Klopp, same Salah only managed 18 goals in 32 matches. In fact out of like 7 seasons under Klopp, Salah only scored more than 27 league goals once. Not to talk of Slot having effective Mane too.

You, Android17 and starchand Banga no just get sense.

Since Newcastle beat Arsenal multiple times this season they'll definitely beat RM.

But City that walloped Newcastle 4-0 lost convincingly to the same RM who just lost 3-0 to Arsenal.

That's why Kimbeast was right to distinguish between the EPL & the UCL concerning Pep and Slot.

Like I said earlier, I only pity people who think like you. You're not gifted with logical reasoning.