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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 4:03pm On Jun 15, 2025
Some of Eyal Yakoby's posts are being slightly rephrased here as original thoughts. The defense HQ in Israel is located in the midst of a dense civillian population so missle targets will unfortunately hit civilians as casualties - not intended. Compare it to what we've seen in Gaza where less than 1-year olds have bullet wounds in the head. It is deeply worrying what even religion can make out of people.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:01pm On Jun 15, 2025
Who remembers this from March 2025?

Yet, you still see people waffle about nuclear sites and weapons.

1st image is from the DNI Tulsi Gabbard.
2nd image is from the IAEA

You have no excuse to be stupendously ignorant in 2025. Gosh, most of y'all are tediously unoriginal. 🙄

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:54pm On Jun 15, 2025
PrinceEma:
Indeed its 2025.

Grok is probably controlling the IDF account
I know the media dictates people's thinking patterns here, but killing any individual isn't a flex, let alone Generals, Nuclear scientists or Negotiators that were already working towards the so-called peace talks. If anyone is telling you to view it as a big deal, you've already been brainwashed by the propaganda. Ironic innit?

That's why you need to shut the TV off and become more critical in your thinking. Read both sides. Compare varying perspectives then determine which of the sides has provided the more compelling argument. Don't feel the need to instinctively take a side you think the Bible wants you to take, or worse still, the side some of the resident vacuous noisemakers here make. The reason is, the latter faction are only regurgitating the same legacy media nonsense. Sometimes, they don't even change punctuations. La copy, la paste. So banal.

Did you source for the counter-narrative to this post on X? How many of the replies did you read to see if what was posted can be verified? If Grok or ChatGPT misinformed you, do you have in-built filters to ascertain truth? Are you genuinely curious or just tribal about facts? I'm asking you these questions because for the most part, you read to me, like someone whose head is in the right place.

So back to the murderous flex, all it takes to assassinate anyone is WILL. Nothing else. How many times have EU or NATO members gone to Kiev to stand with Zelensky? Many times they announce it before they do yet Russia has never tried to whack any of them. Do you think they can't? LOL. What about Mike Pompeo? Or even Zelensky? If Russia wanted him dead they'd be dead.

Some people show restraint and try to play by the allowable means of engagement. It may sound foreign to unprincipled people, but some others try to be rational even in war especially because they think long-term. Some others don't. Israel is an archetype of such nations. They used hellish missiles to decimate a whole apartment floor just to kill 1 scientist. Problem is, they also killed women and 20 other children. That's not a flex.

Iran knew exactly when Bibi's plane was taking off and landing in Athens. We are in the information age. Everyone knew it. They only used it to mock him as a coward. They didn't think it was worth it to eliminate him, wife, sons to what end? Like I said, there's no fuss about it. You probably think it is because. . .media. Do better.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:27pm On Jun 15, 2025
LordAdam16:
Here's the thing.
These folks have insisted on numerous occasions that Israel does not need help to destroy Iran.
After their opening salvo, most had written off Iran.

It is within that context that I want to know, from them, why Israel is requesting an intervention?

Israel did not request an intervention versus Hamas.
Israel did not request an intervention when it was destroying military facilities in Syria.
Why is Israel requesting an intervention in its war with Iran?
Within 48 hours no less.

-Lord
Gotcha. I am extra selective about the posts I read so chances are I skipped past many of such dumb posts.

It is easier to deceive people than to convince them that they've been deceived.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:44am On Jun 15, 2025
LordAdam16:
😂🤣😂

Please answer the pointed question.
Don't pontificate.

Why is Satanyahu asking for US intervention within 48 hours of a war he started?
Axios and multiple media channels have reported on it.

All of you had assured us that Israel will destroy Iran 1-on-1.
They should do it. Why are they looking for someone else to lift them?
Talk is cheap.

-Lord
Bro, while I agree with everything here I just want to point out that the Axios news is still BS propaganda. Bibi doesn't have to ask for this help. This war is a US-Israeli-NATO-Arab war. The German transponder accidentally reported its location and intel shows they were refueling Israeli jets.

UK tried to send a vessel although it got redirected after Iran sent warning shots. Hegseth is already mobilizing missiles from Ukraine. You saw what Jordan did. This has been the plan all along. All the talk about Israel asking for the help is to manufacture consent in the USA. You're right that another false flag will be needed. MAGA isn't buying this war. Charlie Kirk set an opinion poll and 90% of the ~500k responders don't want this war. That's why the propaganda is framing it this way.

Iran shouldn't wait to strike military bases. They have to do so immediately. They have to close the strait of Hormuz and continue to destroy critical infrastructure related to even the Arab nations. This isn't a fair fight. The US is trying to see if Iran's military capacity will wane in the coming days or weeks. If Iran doesn't fight like they are irrational, the US won't back down. Bullies understand one language...FORCE. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:35am On Jun 15, 2025
"Iran cannot be allowed to have Nukes".

No sh*t Sherlock.

- Iran allows inspection of their nuclear programs
- Iran signed treaties related to their nuclear programs
- Iran was negotiating with the US and were a day away from the peace talks.

- Israel doesn't allow inspection of their nuclear armory
- Israel stole their nuclear weapons technology from the USA
- Israel refuses to sign any treaties

But your media are telling you "Iran has to be stopped from having Nukes" that's why we sent pre-emptive strikes. LOL

Humans shouldn't be eating bullshxt.

Nobody explained it well to me is not an excuse. Not in 2025.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:11am On Jun 15, 2025
LordAdam16:
Tel Aviv burns.
All of Israel belongs to Persia until further notice.

Pentagon holds emergency meeting to discuss Israel's request for intervention against Iran.
Maariv reports that only the US can get Israel out of the self-inflicted mess.
Less than 48 hours, they're already crying for Daddy.
Chihuahuas!
Never start what you can't finish.
Who pass you pass you.

The mending will continue.

-Lord
In the history of mankind, the faction that settles for censorship is never right. If you have to arrest your own citizens for posting videos of the damage from your opps missiles, nobody in good faith should rely on any news from that faction.

If you have nothing to hide, you'd hide nothing.

Meanwhile, Hegseth is redirecting missiles from Ukraine to Iran to help the greatest ally (that attacked the USS Liberty). Zelensky must be seething. How dare Bibi steal all the attention from him? So unfair.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:56am On Jun 15, 2025
I slapped my neighbor because I suspected he wanted to slap me.

Since when did you suspect it? I've been suspecting it since 1984, sorry, 1995, I mean 2001. Okay no, 2007.

The same excuses. They are on the verge of having nukes. They are months away. Have you ever seen where nukes were months away but 30 years later - still no nukes?

When my neighbor turns around to slap me back. I'll begin crying aggressor. Aggressor.

"Why are other nations rejecting the Palestinians?". Just tell us you're a poor student of history. People asked the same questions during the holocaust. "Why are other nations rejecting the Jews?"

I was misled isn't a tenable excuse in 2025.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:51am On Jun 15, 2025
In 2025.

I believed all the lies from the media is not an excuse.

Change WMD and Iraq, replace it with Nukes and Iran. It is the same liars. The same actors. The same "we made a mistake". They know they didn't but they are dealing with fools so any excuse will fly.

You now have resources to vet your news. MSNBC lied to me is not an excuse.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:58pm On Jun 14, 2025
Isolate all the points wey you dey see. Feed it point by point to Grok. Ask it, can this be verified?

You'd be surprised. Alot of what you are reading here nah from the same people that told you "2 weeks to slow the spread".

Nigerians who wouldn't touch anything from NTA that concerns govt will post NTAs equivalent from another country.

This is 2025. I was misled can't be an excuse. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:56pm On Jun 14, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Israeli newspaper also said something in 1984. History always repeating itself
It has been forever. Wesley Clark already gave the playbook since 2001 and 24 years later people have gobbled it hook, line, sinker.

WMD BS all over.

But don't worry, if I quote Mossad (buahahaha) then it won't be a lie. Mossad will never lie. Can I get an Amen?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:26pm On Jun 14, 2025
Akaekpuchionwa2:
I disagree. Criticising Israel and participating in pro Palestine protest in Germany is regarded as antisemitic. Whether deportation itself is time consuming or not it doesn't matter, it is a law that has been passed by the German lawmakers & those who go against the law will be penalized according to German law.
You as an African immigrant in Germany wouldn't want to breach such. Even European and US citizens who participated in pro Palestine protest and criticised Israeli military activities in Gaza are facing deportation battle.

"But the deportation orders go further. They cite a broader list of alleged behaviours: chanting slogans such as “Free Gaza” and “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”, joining road blockades (a tactic frequently used by climate activists), and calling a police officer a “fascist”. Read closely, the real charge appears to be something more basic: protest itself.

All four are also accused – without evidence – of supporting Hamas and of chanting antisemitic or anti-Israel slogans. Three of the deportation orders explicitly cite Germany’s national commitment to defend Israel, its so-called Staatsräson, or reason of state, as justification".
See this below and advise yourself if you need to respond to any one spewing thrash from legacy media. LOL.

In 2025? You have no excuse.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:29pm On Jun 14, 2025
diggz:
I’m seeing arguments that make absolutely no sense. I have to hand it to the mainstream media—they’ve done a remarkable job of cooking up this terrible agenda and force-feeding it to the public in this day and age.
The ignorance is frightening.

Israel said they had planned the attacks for a year now yet lemmings on NL are telling me about existential threat. How can a threat be existential yet you planned your "pre-emptive" attack for 1 year? Do people actually think before posting?

"IRAN says Death to Israel". Yeah, do you know why they said it? For e.g if Ayatollah Khamenei says death to Israel yesterday, would it be in isolation? Wouldn't it be connected to the fact that his nation just got attacked a day prior?

I'm not trying to sound condescending but do people know any thing they come here to post from ANY legacy media network is a lie?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:52pm On Jun 14, 2025
monerozi5590:
He is already. Kamala Harris would have made a very good president than this talkative of a president. No class or composure.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Whether Obama, Bush, Clinton, Kamala, Biden etc - US foreign policy is dictated by Israel. The only reason some of us are angry at Trump is, he lied repeatedly during his campaign yet knew his base voted him for being a peacemaker. The libertarians for example would never have sided with him if he didn't present himself that way. Especially when we all thought the deepstate tried to whack him...Twice.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:49pm On Jun 14, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Presently Russia and Ukraine is conducting exchanges of captured & dead soldiers. According to the Istanbul agreement, Russia and Ukraine agreed to exchange 6000 for 6000 KIA (killed in action) from both sides....so far so good Russia has returned 3,600 bodies to Ukraine while Ukraine has returned only 27.

Then you wonder if Ukraine even have up to 2k Russian KIA.


🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russia Transfers 1,200 More Ukrainian Bodies — Kiev Again Returns None

Under the Istanbul agreements, Russia has transferred another batch of 1,200 frozen bodies of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers.

This marks the third such transfer, bringing the total number of Ukrainian bodies returned to Kiev to 3,600.

Kiev, however, has again not returned any Russian bodies. So far, they have only returned 27 — during the first exchange held after the Istanbul talks.

The latest body transfer reportedly coincided with a separate exchange of prisoners of war.

🐻 That's 3,212 vs. 27 - just saying...
This Iran War will expose what they've been lying about in Ukraine all the while. The vulture is a patient bird. We'll soon count the scores. The US cannot fight multiple wars so they have effectively abandoned Ukraine. The EU are begging Trump to continue funding it and providing Intel but even he knows the US simply cannot afford it. There are massive protests in many big cities staged for today. The ongoing Palantir vs government surveillance scandal is brewing. The man is overwhelmed. The depletion of resources to Ukraine will force them to want peace talks again but this time genuinely. That's why Putin prefers the slow grind. Why inherit ashes when you can take over the country with relative value. Odessa is next. Russia want full control of the black sea then they'll hit back at the UK for supporting the most recent terrorist attacks by Ukraine using those drones. Everyone knows it was MI6 with some support obviously from the CIA. I also suspect they'll hit at the US later. Putin is a strategist. I fear who no fear am.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:40pm On Jun 14, 2025
diggz:
Israel’s envoy to the UN claims that their attack on Iran was an act of national preservation. But I still remember when Israel, alongside the U.S., justified the invasion of Iraq by saying it would bring lasting peace to the Middle East.

So, by that logic, is Nigeria also free to attack the U.S., the U.K., or any other country as an act of “national preservation”?
I honestly don’t understand this kind of reasoning.
At this point, I’m truly astonished.
It is self preservation to attack your neighbors under the pretext that they want to harm you but if Russia invades Ukraine to stop NATOs expansion, Russia becomes the aggressor and the war in Ukraine becomes unprovoked.

Rules for thee but not rules for me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:38pm On Jun 14, 2025
patrickmuf:
Ukraine exposed Russia, how exactly? Ukraine is being armed by NATO, so in extention Russia is up against NATO and is still winning...

How you conveniently avoided the support from NATO in a bid to score cheap points is laughable...Russian troops are penetrating deep into Ukraine but you are here on Nairaland saying Ukraine is winning.
That's why I stan Putin. Restraint. Many on this thread agitating for regime change in Russia don't know Putin is mellow compared to people like Medvedev. Western propaganda is very strong. I was a victim. C-19 era woke me up. Many don't know how liberal Putin truly is at heart. If he didn't have a genuine soft spot for the west, he'd have turned Ukraine into present day Gaza in 1 day. But you can see how we interpret restraint as weakness. That's what Iran is probably just realizing. Israel knew they stood no chance against Iran but they were hoping to drag the US into it. The agenda is to force a regime change and hopefully get a puppet like the current one in Syria so they can FastTrack project Greater Israel. Iran will probably lose their Ayatollah Khamenei. That's who Israel will target next and of course indiscriminately. People think there was any special military operation involved in whacking the Nuclear scientists but it was simply bombing their personal homes, killing in some cases wife and children. The media just focuses on the main target forgetting the real act of terrorism. Russia and China are taking notes because the playbook is the same. Proxy wars. Protests. Regime change. Iran has to be as genocidal to force the US to cower. They have to aim for the same regime change in Israel. Bibi Satanyahu cannot lead us into a WW3. He should kpai on his own.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 10:44pm On Jun 13, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Just like the Russian President said, be it democrat or Republican President leading the White House, US foreign policy objectives largely remain the same. Same Trump was shouting about ending Russian 🆚 Ukraine conflict in 24 hours.. As soon as Zelenesky signed the rare earth mineral deal Trump made a u turn and started calling Putin crazy.
Yup. I said it the other day. No difference between the last Administration and this one. No matter who we elect, Israel will still control the US Presidency.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:39pm On Jun 13, 2025
Maimakawa1:
I really hope you can be just enough to see why Palmer was frustrated in matches last season, which naturally brings about his dip in form or discouragement in his decision making. But no wonder, you're neither a CFC player or fan, so you couldn't understand or feel our frustration with those vastards forwards. I want you to note that Yamal is my best player in the world now and preferred Bld Or. I enjoy watching his game more than any other player
Palmer hasn't done sh&t to be frustrated with anyone. That's my point. He's not that guy...yet. What he ought to be doing is forcing games in CFCs favor regardless of the lapses of his teammates. If he gets discouraged and is supposedly CFC's best player, what does he want Jackson and co to do? That's why I talked about a winning mentality.

Nobody is going into this season thinking CFC will win the league, so I'm not saying he is a fraud until CFC wins it. But I'm saying, if your team is 2nd and you are the guy your fans say you are, your G/A should shoot up. Then when the season ends and say CFC only manages to finish 2nd behind LFC but Palmer has say... 50 G/A, trust me RM, Barca even City will come back for him.

Those teams will immediately feel like if we surround him around some of our talented players, he would take us to the very top. That's what RM felt when they went all out for Kylian. Why do you think Kylian isn't saying "we tried, we finished 2nd and I was the golden boot". Nah. As far as RM are concerned, last season was a failure. No excuses. They even fired Carlo even though he just won the league and UCL the season before. That is elite winning mentality.

That's what Lamine showed this season that I haven't seen from Palmer. I mean, Barca lost the UCL to Inter, who did the media gravitate to? Lamine. What about Spain? They lost the Nations league and Lamine got most of the blames for Spain not winning. At age 17. That's why teams are willing to even pay €300m for him today. That's Elite mentality.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 10:30pm On Jun 13, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Soon they will start singing their national anthem... That Iran is Antisemitic
I was one of those who believed if Trump was in the Epstein files the democrats would have used it against him. . . I'm now ashamed of myself for not catching it earlier. It is the Zionists that are using that list to control almost all US politicians. That's the only reason he lied about being a peacemaker only to rush into a war with Iran rather than release those files. It is under him that Epstein was "suicided". It is under him that 2 other victims have been "suicided" yet, rather than act, he continued to promote everyone involved in the case including James Comey's daughter who is one of the leading prosecutors in that Diddy case as well.

What makes me laugh is seeing the same people who can never see or say anything good about Trump now celebrate genocide because it somehow favors Israel (that's not the real reason they celebrate it). I can't imagine myself supporting a bully who is beating a child to death because I want to feel like I'm taking a side I think will win a war.

If Putin is who I think he is, this will be the opportunity to cover more ground in Ukraine as Trump is tacitly running away from a war he has now lost. Let warmongers keep cheering the US into another middle-eastern conflict we have no hope of winning.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 9:54pm On Jun 13, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Dem dey hit IDF defense headquarters una dey explain without evidence
That they conveniently situated around a dense civilian population so that they could cry that there were civilian casualties.

Yet they were just sniping children scavenging for food and bragging about it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:53pm On Jun 13, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
This is too early to celebrate. Be calm, watch as things unfold because Iran will respond. This is an unprovoked attack against Iran. Reasonable people are praying for the safety of Israel.
The people typing "pray for Israel" are deploying psy-ops to manufacture consent for a war Trump lied about. Don't fall for it. It is all neocon lingo probably typed by their AIPAC handler. The point is, if Iran were to retaliate, it will be framed by the media to the American populace as if Iran attacked unprovoked. They used this same playbook for Russian - Ukraine. They are only pivoting to this war because that one is now a lost cause.

I doubt Iran will respond if you need my honest opinion. They are more likely to bunker down and proceed to actually develop the nuclear weapons in reality since they know they'll get attacked regardless. If anything, they are more likely to not be attacked after they have their own thriving nuclear program.

They'll wear black sack clothes and mourn their losses. The major lesson here is the complete distrust of the US govt in any negotiations. BRICS on the other hand will be geared towards forming a military alliance not just an economic one. They've seen the writings on the Wall.

That said, assassinating the top brass of their military, nuclear scientists etc, is just ineffective overcelebrated terrorism. It has been done repeatedly but achieves nothing. One only needs to have genocidal tendencies to achieve it. Wonder what the fuss is about.

Actually I know what it is; GroupThink and people who like to parrot legacy media nonsense like it is Solomonic wisdom. It is boring at this point.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:36am On Jun 13, 2025
timbros:
The goal is more valuable than assist. Thats the point here.

Own goal or not, it's more valuable than any assist.
After trying to derail me, you've circled back to arguing with yourself because you realized you were talking rubbish.

Nobody discussed that with you. My point was, nobody at City cared that it was Palmer who scored. City don't consider it an achievement (he could've influenced the game without scoring). The achievement was winning that game.

I'll ignore any time-wasting post from you going forward.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 3:42am On Jun 13, 2025
timbros:
The person who finished the chance, the goal scorer, is the most relevant person here. His name is on the scoreboard.

Stop capping.
I told you, you're not as clever as you think. What about own goals? Is the person's name not on the "scoreboard". Is it an achievement for the person?

Stop being silly.

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