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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:30pm On Oct 25, 2023
Ballzproblemm:
man City decline ain't talked enough,I'm sorry this team ain't winning shit for some time.

downgrade everywhere letting go of:

mahrez

gundogan



replacing them with:


kovacic


doku.


no answer to kdb heir.
LOL
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:41pm On Oct 24, 2023
zeusis:

Guardiola likes technical security and control and grealish gives him all that. Doku at best should be a second half sub when city finds it difficult to break down low block teams.
If I had my way I'll do that. Or better yet freaking play Grealish in his rightful position which is in midfield. He has better retention than Alvarez, wins more fouls than Foden and has more gravity than anyone not named KdB or Haaland.

That was what made him special at Villa. Jack needs runners ahead of him but Pep is playing him on the wings like he is Iniesta - which he is not. Imagine playing Zidane as a winger (Jack is not on Zidane's level).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:35pm On Oct 24, 2023
swiz123:

A midfielder is much more than what you see. A midfielder's job is to control possession by helping his team ensure they keep the ball instead of going long all the time.

How do they do this?? It's simple, they cover a lot of ground in an effort to ensure they are always available to receive the ball even under pressure. Central midfielders with high passing volume do this a lot and hence, it becomes arguably the most important metric to judge a CM and DM.
When Rodri was suspended, I watched Kalvin Phillips keenly in the few moments he played and was surprised he was not receiving the ball enough to the degree Rodri was. City did not lack possession, but for some reason the stat could not be translated to Mr. Phillips.

Your post contains the reason why. He was never positioning himself rightly to receive the ball.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 5:24pm On Oct 21, 2023
raumdeuter:


How is Doku a net negative for now
What he contributes versus what he allows, to me, still puts City at a disadvantage.

He does not track back like Grealish. He loses the ball alot more than Grealish and his final balls are more bad than good. So even if he scores or assists in a game, City end up suffering more on the defensive end when he is on.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Android17: 5:22pm On Oct 21, 2023
airmark:


Thank God that you know that not all managers asked their keepers to only boot out the ball. The playing from the back by keepers, wasn't invented by Fraudiola, among other false claims. Raumdeuter, take note.

Also, thanks for not daring to hail Neuer's passing skills on your Apari coach. cool
He proved it could consistently win you games. So he gets credit for boldness and winningness.

Neuer could pass the ball but it only became a deadly weapon when Pep managed him. Ederson had passing range was it being used by Benfica to win games while playing a certain way? No.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 5:12pm On Oct 21, 2023
raumdeuter:


See that attack they gave the ball to Grealish and he turned around to waste time. Really the heir to Hazard
Grealish was doing what was necessary at the time. Doku is still a net negative for now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 5:10pm On Oct 21, 2023
Trevor012:
When Doku contributes to City winning a treble we go gree.
People like flashy stuff. Doku has potential but this game would have been a walk in the park with Grealish.
Sports / Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 1:53pm On Oct 21, 2023
Khanben:
Nba dudes will have to relearn all their ingrained angles with this Wembayama dude. His 8ft wingspan is just disrupting everything. You think he's out of position and all of a sudden that frame is contesting the shot. The nba needs to hope this dude stays healthy because if he does and fulfills his potential, he his going to make money for a lot of people
I am not challenging what you have said but is it because he blocked Klay Thompson in a preseason game?

Shots will get blocked here and there. Patrick Beverley had blocked Lebron if I am not mistaken.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Android17: 1:45pm On Oct 21, 2023
airmark:


Answer the question I asked you my friend.

I won't be surprised if you and Raumdeuter tell us, Fraudiola taught Neuer how to pass the ball from the back. grin
He did not teach Haaland how to score as well but somehow Haaland had his most prolific season under Pep? What about Messi? Pedro? I could go on and on.

Revolutionizing the way the game is played is not about creating new techniques, silly. It is about changing the mentality or perception of the game.

Not just that, it involves challenging the status quo and engineering a different way of doing things in a manner that it influences how others do or view it.

Pep took the weapon that Ederson/Neuer already had and utilized it to maximize his team's winning potential. That is what makes him special and worthy of emulation.

He did not teach Messi how to dribble or shoot the ball, but he significantly weaponized Messi's dribbling and shooting abilities by creating the false 9 role rather than shoving him to the wings like every other manager (for e.g Rijkaard and Mourinho) tried to do.

I could go on and on.

Before Pep, most football managers coached their keepers into booting the goal kick long hoping for the target striker to bring it down. The few that did the opposite were either treated as over-ambitious neophytes who deployed it in the odd game as a tactical switch or they never won enough with it to justify the paradigm shift.

Pep changed the dynamics in both ways in that he not only used it consistently even when people said it was bound to fail - but that he also won so consistently that other managers believed it was an ironclad winning strategy - and now look what is happening around the world of soccer.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Android17: 3:03am On Oct 21, 2023
airmark:


Which of these ideas burnt his fingers against Chelsea in the Ucl final? Let us separate his useless inventions from useful ones, before telling you who started the ideas he stole.
The same one that helped him beat Chelsea in 2009.

If Pep stole someone's idea why did other managers not steal it first so they can win like Pep? Why did others not copy the person that Pep stole it from? Why did they wait for Pep to steal it first before they decided to steal it from him?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Android17: 3:01am On Oct 21, 2023
raumdeuter:


Almost all of these when Pep started the same people laughed at him

Ball playing Keeper they laughed now every club is looking for or playing one
He played without a striker they laughed that its impossible in EPL
He played ball out of the back even under pressure they all laughed, now they all copy him
The press from front was what Pep already used at Barcelona when he had a tactic that the ball must be recovered in 5seconds, Same thing Klopp is using

Which is why those who follow football closely know that his methods have taken over English football even in the lower tiers and non league sides
The highlighted part is what does my head in. If it does not work he is a fraud that was overthinking. When it works I'll start reading that someone somewhere did it in 1908.

The person did it and people did not decide to copy the person till Pep did it?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Android17: 12:43am On Oct 20, 2023
kendrick9:
The same pundits who said Guardiola can't translate his success to English football and now he's changed football.
grin
You see why I can't take such pundits serious, they are never stable, always repeating cliches and without offering any substantial insight.
If Pep changed English football then how many teams in the PL play Pep's football.
To play that kind of football u need to have an open chequebook.
Even Pep can't play Pep's football without spending billions

Pep showed managers the importance of a ball-playing keeper. Klopp, Arteta, Ten Hag etc. copied him.

Pep showed the importance of inverting full backs.

Pep demonstrated playing out of the back as effective for winning teams.

He played without a striker.

He counter-pressed with Barca and Klopp is on record saying he copied him.

I could go on and on.

And he started with Barcelona B. What chequebook did that team need?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Android17: 4:21pm On Oct 08, 2023
You know Haaland is going to score, right?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 1:28am On Oct 07, 2023
princeabdul:
cules are hilarious people, pep is a gold digger.
I understand he's currently trying to sign pacqueta while he's having kovacic.

Why not mould kova into paq since that's his ID.
It is always better to be quiet and be thought to be a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubts.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:13pm On Oct 06, 2023
oliverano:


cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Ah, Ogah Android17; Pep is the GOAT manager and I'm his biggest fan. You can go through all my post. A Barca fan who doesn't respect Pep is not truly a Barca fan.

It was a tongue in cheek comment man. On nairaland and other social media platforms, Pep is known as a bald(Apari) fraud. Not that he's a fraud though.

The image you have there was just to show that Enzo learnt from the very best and he's bald too just like his Ogah(Pep).
I was joining you in the sarcasm. You know they used to say Pep will be unable to get "average" players to win or play well forgetting that it is his claim to fame with the Barca B team. I know you well oh. grin

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:51pm On Oct 06, 2023
Ibime:


Obama never went to school on no F1 visa bro, dazall. Don't present your alternative facts as truth.
Ok no wahala.

I disagree completely but make we rest the issue.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 6:03pm On Oct 06, 2023
oliverano:


grin grin grin grin grin grin

Like Pep, Maresca is a bald fraud!
What is your problem? Why are you making it appear like if Pep was coaching Leicester City they would most probably be achieving the same?

Remember Pep is a fraud who cannot coach players that are not the best in the world.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:48pm On Oct 06, 2023
Segedinho:

I think you would believe an expert more
https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/forgery.html
Post the definition here nah. Post what you can see from the link.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:47pm On Oct 06, 2023
Segedinho:



https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/forgery.html
Define the crime called forgery. I did not say give me examples.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:41pm On Oct 06, 2023
Segedinho:

Oh.....

Maybe I misunderstood your position.

If your position is the intent of forgery,...so how can you conclude his intention was positive,when he said he has collected the original copy n yet refuse to tender it.....


Killing in a war is regarded as "territorial defence" just like sex in marriage....

An American soldier Killing a Russian soldier in a war is valid but an American soldier killing he a Russian soldier (no in war)is regarded as a crime even when the American soldier assumes he is in a war....(His assumption doesn't matter)

Here,INEC requested school certificate b4 u are registered as a contender,Tinubu told d World as well as INEC he had collected this certificate and would do d right thing.....

He deceived everyone with a forged certificate.This violates the requirement and you see nothing wrong with it..

You tell me the intention of doing such when he had d luxury of doing the right thing..

Define the crime called forgery.

I did not read the rest of what you posted.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:41pm On Oct 06, 2023
Segedinho:

Android said...Forgery is not a crime,do you agree with him b4 I upload what the constitution says about FORGERY...
LOOOL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:40pm On Oct 06, 2023
MorataFC:
What does the law say? Android17 has been asking everyone but no one answers him, again what does the law say I want to know.
If they (the judges, lawyers) who are at the helm of the law now deliver the verdict at the supreme courts hope you will not cry injustice?
They will cry injustice because they refused to follow simple logic.

If man sets a plan that he will kill his wife on a certain day and then executes it the law calls it first degree murder.

But if in the heat of an argument he strikes her and she collapses and dies. The man killed her but the law will not call it first degree. Because he will try to argue that he did not strike her with the intent to kill.

Same way if an armed robber comes to my house and I take my rifle to blow his head off, I will not be charged for murder. I will argue self-defense and so on.

I have told them to define the crime called forgery and nobody is man enough to do it. They started claiming I said forgery is not a crime.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:33pm On Oct 06, 2023
MorataFC:
People like the news that favours them but every news that goes contrary to their beliefs is wrong and unacceptable, I don't like Tinubu but it is what it is, my wife said I should drop all my hatred towards our leaders and move on, Obasanjo is bad, Yar'dua is a green snake, Goodluck is clueless, Buhari is a combination of a tyrant and tribalist and then Tinubu is a druggie, Haba, if Jesus comes to rule this nation some of you will still complain then we need to check ourselves.
I have never told anyone to vote for Tinubu. The only Nigerian president I ever "campaigned" for was Buhari and I had dumped him before 2019. I have no political heroes or foes. I have said it here before. I may support Putin on one topic and then argue against him on another. I don't do cults and cliques.

A001 if he can recall, I was supporting him when he was asking questions about COVID-19 origin. Yet me and him have had many uncivil conversations afterwards. That is what people here don't understand. I am simply devoted to logic - nothing else. Except when Pep is concerned sha hahahaha.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:28pm On Oct 06, 2023
Segedinho:

I would want you to watch this video carefully and juxtaposed what your perception of his "INTENT" is

https://twitter.com/ParallelFacts/status/1710005240685084955

Lies and deceit are embedded in forgery,hence it is a crime..like I said earlier FORGERY is divergent....It ranges from cloning what you have already to printing from imagination.......the intent is always deceit especially when you are not incapacitated to achieve such a feat

The Nigerian constitution frowns at FORGERY (no exception)....



bla bla bla

Define the crime called forgery to me. Then we can take it from there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:27pm On Oct 06, 2023
Emaprince:
What was his INTENT in lying that he collected his cert directly from CSU, and we believe the said CERT is what he submitted to Inec ?

Note that he never collected this cert.
It is you who should be trying to postulate his intent to defraud. Any conversation that anyone is having with me that does not begin with defining the crime called forgery to me, is a conversation that I am not willing to have on this matter.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:24pm On Oct 06, 2023
Ibime:



Obama never went to school on no F1 visa. You can't correct people to the truth when you inhabit a world of alternative lies.

Ibime, I oftentimes like your posts on many topics because you can be logical when you want to be. The only issue I tend to have with you is that you like to dabble into conversations that you are clearly ignorant about and you always try to pass off your superficial knowledge like some conventional wisdom.

I can list out 5 things we have argued about recently and time has proven that you were wrong on ALL of them. I see it as childish in coming here to gloat so I just laugh it off and move on because unlike you, I don't debate things I have not thoroughly researched.

If you have nothing productive to do, engage other people. If you want to engage me, be civil and I will return the favor.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:13pm On Oct 06, 2023
Segedinho:

In brevity..

FORGERY is not a crime and Nigeria constitution is so wrong to attributes punishment to any one found guilty of such...

That is how you sound.
Can somebody who understands English explain to this person I am responding to that I never said forgery is not a crime. I said to define the crime called forgery.

When soldiers kill each other in war is that regarded as murder? No. Because the the crime called murder does not refer to every killing.

I thought you said you graduated with 4pts from UNIBEN? No offense, but you are not arguing like someone who graduated with such a GPA.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:10pm On Oct 06, 2023
Amigoss:



He graduated from Govt college Lagos in 1970 while the school was established in 1974...

According to him,he has a degree in Economics,submitted to inec and swore an oath with it...where is that certificate?
What does this have to do with my question?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 3:09pm On Oct 06, 2023
Amigoss:


Lool...."Where is his certificate (diploma) from University of Chicago where he studied Economics from 1972 to 1976?" which he swore an oath with and submitted to inec since 1999.... Where is that certificate grin

You are the intellectual dishonest person here

Off tangent. As usual.

Google intellectual dishonesty so you can know how it applies.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:01pm On Oct 06, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


He's the one being intellectually dishonest??
Him?? 😂😂
Define the crime called forgery. Why is it so hard?

Remember, dummies were gyrating that forgery of all sorts is a crime, right? And I said it is not true. For one to commit the crime called forgery, INTENT to defraud for the purpose of gaining an advantage must be established.

That is why you emotionalists are now twisting something all of us (who have zero issues in reading and comprehending) have gleaned from the deposition that you yourself posted here.

Did CSU deny Tinubu as being a student that graduated from their institution? If so, can you screenshot the exact point that they said it. Let me show you another example of intellectual dishonesty.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 12:51pm On Oct 06, 2023
Segedinho:

If I intend killing a rat with a poisoned meat using your favourite plate .......


But you ate it anyway n kicked whatever bucket you like,will my intention by acknowledged as fact


😏😏😏


Modified: This is why my intention would be discarded even if true,,,I could easily have called to inform you but I didn't, even when I swore I did in the presence of the judges.

Here..I am happy you have accepted the fact that there was FORGERY but the intent ...

Tinubu told the world he has collected the original certificate.This shows his intention was actually negative cos he deceived everyone even INEC.


I don't have to define forgery to know it is a crime......The essence of the deceit or manoeuvring is best known by the person executing it..........Tinubu had the time,money,fame and affluence to get it without much delay but he lied.This is actually a dent on whatever "INTENT" you are fighting for.
Until you define the crime called forgery don't bother engaging me on this topic as you are only going to be intellectually dishonest.

Next.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 12:48pm On Oct 06, 2023
Itsrm:


So what happened in 2022 when he was filling the form he submitted to INEC

Remember there have been controversies around it since he was governor. All he had to do was pick it up and save us all this drama and embarrassment. The optics for us as a nation is not good.

Our guys for instance are all over upwork and fiverr trying to get jobs from people who have seen numerous headlines of our president being labelled a certificate forger.

You are asking reasonable questions but the overarching irrefutable truth covers those gaps. That is why I said, as long as CSU admitted that he was a student and graduated from the school, all the speculations about why he did not do what cannot overrule him. That is just a fact. The lesser truth is subsumed by the greater one. For e.g. I cannot discuss someone's secondary school certificate if they have a graduate level one that nobody is refuting.

Speaking about controversies - they are always media inspired. If you give yellow journalists money, they will print whatever you want them to print. I am sure you heard about the controversies concerning Obama's place of birth. His detractors had better evidence than all the Tinubu hoopla (Obama went to University on an F-1 Visa #Fact). However, Obama could prove that Hawaiian newspapers that report the births of children in real time, had reported that he was born in Hawaii in 1960 (which means his own proof predates his detractors'). He is the only one who will be able to explain why he went to school as an immigrant - the rest of us can only speculate. That was the end of the debate because the average American is more intelligent than the dummies on Nairaland.

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