European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:43pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Segedinho: Nope.....
But,I think his successor has d power to verify and rightfully bring him to justice.
What is with the blame ...He failed woefully,must his successor continue the legacy of failure ?.
Myself and so many others called on Buhari who promised to be ruthless in dealing with tahe affairs of Nigeria(his credentials supported this)..
Buhari presently didn't only fail on his promises but he compromised maybe as a results of cabals and we are so so backward than even d GEJ era. Buhari failed for sure however in the townhall organized following the subsidy removal with SLS, NOI, DAM in attendance all of them had predicted that the next president of Nigeria (2015 and beyond) was going to face serious financial problems because of this subsidy. At that time, they did not even factor COVID-19 into their equation. Buhari was simply dealt a bad hand. Granted, he failed while at it but he was still dealt a bad hand. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:40pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]GEJ wanted to remove it. The current president refused.
Now you are explaining that a cartel is fighting Buhari. Why didn't you figure out that GEJ could be fighting the same cartel?
You brand GEJ as the careless one, then Buhari as the victim
Anyways, that's derailing
We can't afford to pay subsidy. We are going into deeper debts because of it, and sadly, no candidate is saying anything about the reality. They all condemn it and move on.
And i can't remember saying Obi was going to change anything. What's this discussion in relation to Obi? [/color] I may quote you but I am indirectly and pre-emptively replying some other posts. GEJ wanted to remove it but leave Nigerians in the hands of the same cartel he did not want to face. Similar to using Hyenas to protect the goats and then wonder why they keep reducing in number. That showed he was not serious and nobody trusted him. A palliative could have been cutting down the list of the "importers", sending the fakes to jail etc. Let Nigerians see you are serious. GEJ avoided it completely but would rather inflict the pains on Nigerians. Buhari got some of them deregistered and some even went to jail, then corruption fought back. Meanwhile, there has always been a cartel. OBJ sold refineries as he was leaving in 2007 and Yar Adua reversed the sale as part of his first act as president. A cartel will make you do that. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:29pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Segedinho: Blaming GEJ to me is quite weird and uncalled for.....
How much has gone outa hand or borrowed for infrastructure wch are less important than building a refinery.
Subsidy is a calculated fraud and the cabals are using it at d detriment of the masses ....
Imagine the oil theft and d money lost as a result from oil scandals daily.....
It is impossible remove subsidy without building a single refinery to cushion d effect of d burst in price wch could lead to chaos or hunger in d country...
We were promised refinery 8 years ago and many of us are still using GEJ mask to exonerate Buhari...who does that ??
Okowa's proposition is bullshit cos we can see how Dangote cement is dealing with d country....
If a country blessed with a good quantity of crude oil cannot build a refinery then it is pitiable Do you know GEJ announced in 2009 (immediately after replacing Yar Adua) that he had released $23bn for 4 new refineries? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:26pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]So for 8 years, the government could not think of one solution to end this plague
Why couldn't Buhari revamp Kaduna, Warri and PH in his first 4 years? At least, we would have to deal with backlogs from marketers from 2019, while subsidy ends for good.
These guys are the beneficiaries. I blame GEJ for the subsidy scam, but i dont blame him for Buhari's decision to keep paying it even after 2019[/color] SLS already said if you fight corruption, corruption will fight back. Buhari like I said initially tried but when corruption fought back, he yielded. Some of us expected him to whittle down the list of petroleum marketers. That number was in units and then tens under OBJ, upper tens to hundreds under Yar Adua and became thousands under GEJ. We all know only about maximum 50 of them were actually importing the products and distributing in Nigeria, but because we were cashing out then, GEJ saw no issues in doling out 1.7 trillion in 2011 to those marketers. From 200 or so billion just a year prior. Now Buhari tried to cut down that list but you are dealing with a cartel. They grabbed him by the balls and the consequence would have been harsh scarcity and long queues. Ibe Kachikwu advised him to pay some of the money which he did. Like I said, one may not like it but if you have better solutions considering the country involved, you can mention it. As for those moribund refineries, it was unconscionably stupid to try to revamp them. In fact, as soon as I see any president or minister advocate for it I know they are just playing to the gallery. None of those refineries should be revamped or subjected to TAM paid for by the FG. They should have been sold off as scrap to the private sector and government should have played the role of regulator. Times would have been harsh but the ripple effect would have augured well for Nigerians. Afterall, the price people pay now is still higher than what it would have been had this been done in say 2010 or earlier. But there is a very palpable lack of trust factor for Nigerian governments and rightly so. Leaving market forces to determine prices would have seen those same marketers and their cartel connive to bribe the regulators and then hike the prices for maximum profit. It was a pick your poison situation and as you can see, this present government decided to pay the subsidy. A Peter Obi administration will do same FYI. Forget what he is saying now. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:56pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]GEJ did want to remove it. Remember?
It was people in this government that protested. Today, they are there, and they can't remove it.
People in power are the importers. The capital to import 1 million liters of PMS no be beans.
Then imagine government paying 250, while the people pay 200. Which business get this kind assurance?[/color] While you are right that every government dealt with roundtripping and all the associated issues with subsidy, it was worsened by the Jonathan administration. When it became unsustainable, rather than put some sterner measures to check it, Jonathan opted to have the subsidy completely removed. Nobody was going to trust him especially when he made no serious actions towards putting palliatives in place to cushion the effect of the removal first and foremost. You may not like to hear it but Buhari originally took a hard stance on subsidy but the marketers who claimed they were owed trillions from the Jonathan regime threatened that until some reimbursements were made, they will refuse to import and distribute refined Petroleum products. Buhari had to play ball by remitting some of the monies to them. That is why most of us always dial back to GEJ's regime concerning this subsidy brouhaha. |
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 9:25pm On Sep 05, 2022 |
Skrrrrrrr: The warriors were head and shoulders above the Celtics. They were just picking up after slumping due to injuries. And they finally peaked in the finals. If not for some good fortune in Game 1, the series would have ended in 5. Repeat it 4x, warriors win 4x. Fatigue had nothing to do with it. In the last 20 years, The Warriors have pulled the most ratings in the NBA finals. The most recent one still topped Lebron and the Lakers as well as Giannis and his bucks. If anyone cites COVID-19 tell them that every other shows' ratings improved as a result of it. I mean viewership not attendance. And it is not because of the Celtics. We are box office. In addition, Curry has become the face of the NBA again. He is in all the commercials, hosted the ESPYs and dominated most of the news stories before the KD brouhaha (they even tried to lie using our name to get the news to generate more buzz). As soon as that was sorted, the news shifted back to Curry and the Warriors. We will virtually be on every other televised games this coming season, more times than Bucks and Lakers were given in the last 2 years having won championships. The bus parade, Draymond Green's marriage and Curry's graduation all dominated sports news. Curry is the Cinderella man: winning his first Finals MVP and everyone maybe except Creep Bayless now agreeing he is a top 10 player in NBA history. Don't expect people who never wanted us to win to be happy about it. Grape is sour. For some, their team lost so their frustration is granted. For others, it is because Curry proved all that floor General jibber jabber we used to hear was utter nonsense and I called it out at the time. It is often said that people will lie but numbers don't so I attached numerical proof concerning the NBA finals. The rest of the other stuff is easier to prove. They hate us cause they ain't us. They hate us cause they anus 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:11pm On Aug 28, 2022 |
OVA200: No be me you owe money and no be me wey go cut your hand.
You can simply show where I beg your generation for pin. So no proof just the regular vibes and sheeple syndrome? Go and rest jare. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:10pm On Aug 28, 2022 |
OVA200: Begging for handout from your papa abi?
Please humbly bring out where I beg.
If not thunder fire your left scrotum. I won't expose you. Na just private jokes and things. I am not petty enough to splash members of your family's pictures like some people I know. Life is not that serious. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:07pm On Aug 28, 2022*. Modified: 12:37am On Aug 29, 2022 |
Jesus is Lord. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:04pm On Aug 28, 2022*. Modified: 12:37am On Aug 29, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:01pm On Aug 28, 2022*. Modified: 12:38am On Aug 29, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:59pm On Aug 28, 2022*. Modified: 12:38am On Aug 29, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:39pm On Aug 28, 2022 |
OVA200: So when another person try to correct you since you have a blurry recollection you don't argue with the person instead you first go and clear your blurry recollection before you reply the person.
Rodent wey don use powerless lion mop floor. Lion onigbese. You are even stupider than I thought. Can you bring where the person saying his recollection may be wrong was arguing with you? Or better yet if the ball was not in play will the argument I made be wrong? You can also bring the proof that I owe anyone money. I don't need to know you mop floors for a living. Your IQ gave your occupation away. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 1:03am On Aug 07, 2022 |
If BAT disassociates himself from Buhari, that is him signing his electoral loss to Atiku. The winner of the elections will be determined by the North and Buhari is still the king of the north. Any other political calculation that undermines Buhari's role, lol, tears and blood will flow. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:45pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Leoooooooooo |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:52pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Okay Okay Okay Okay 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:41pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Bluelines69: Sterling wasn’t tired at all the whole 100 minutes Part of his strengths. Very fit and barely gets injured. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:41pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Fofana's value just went up  . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:20pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
The way DONstan18 dey take wound some stans ehn.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:53pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
kingBolton: You just defined Conte here effortlessly. He always has a good game plan but once figured out, he usually finds it hard to counter it. I know people might find this hard to believe but a look at some us his game when he was still managing Chelsea will support this. 1. Chelsea 2*0 lost against tottenham, when they ended our winning streak, 2. Chelsea 2*0 lost against Jose Mourinho's United. Yea, you are absolutely right. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:32pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
donstan18: What and what went his way when joined Chelsea, did well in his first season that changed before he got figured out the second season?
Anything 3 defense becomes shiit once it’s figured out, because whatever tweaking you plan doing, it’ll still come with 3 defense, leaving you at the mercy of managers who has figured you out. This is an intelligent post. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:25pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Unlimited22: Our scouts didn't see Kulusevski. Ọkay o Kulusevski was a prodigy. Many scouts felt he had what it took to become a world class player. Many teams fought to have him but Juventus won. The thing is, just like Henry, Italian life and style hampered him and his buzz fizzled. Credit to Conte and Paritici for still believing in him but that guy underwhelmed in Juventus. Tottenham even doubted him that they wanted him on a non-obligatory loan deal. He is just showing that he is adjusting better to England than Italy, like Thierry. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:19pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Here is the brilliance and weakness of Conté: He prepares his teams to perform like a choir. They use almost the same patterns of play both in defense and attack so that his players master it to perfection. It is grueling, exerting and daunting, however, when he has the right tools in most positions, he will replicate the same result 70-80% of the time. It is usually not complicated a routine but it is complex enough to trap and gazump his opposition. You can see what he is trying to do but you can't stop it at the moment. You will have to prepare your team like a machine or luck it out.
The issue is, after a short while, he can be sussed out and easily so. As soon as that happens, Conté seems to lack more tricks in the bag and then fights with management, so he can get fired and find a new club to ply his trade. Then his hustle continues. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 2:50pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
R.I.P Pele. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:35pm On Aug 06, 2022 |
Skimpledawg: Larride, raumdeuter, Android17 and Oasis007, Festus Keyamo is good mehn
The way that man defends this Buhari Govt is impeccable. Femi Adesina dey learn work where this barawo dey  Part of the obvious failures of the Buhari administration. Some of his appointments were incredibly stupid. Meanwhile, it was only 2014 I supported Buhari. Although I did not want Atiku to win in 2019, I was less bullish in my support of Buhari. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:53pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
Trevor012: So you gave them 53M and a replacement on loan. Una done fall maga as usual. lol |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:54pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
airmark:

Even Raumdeuter will be like, who sent this one to defend me now? Ogbeni sit this out before thunder fire you. I don't remember quoting you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 8:52pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
Leave it to the herd to think defending a policy is defending a person or an administration. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 8:49pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Maybe you can tell us more.about the 'strategic bilateral relationship'. Becuase all of this road, rail line etal started with Buhari.
Maybe you can also tell us when toyota started making bullet proof vehicles.
You can also explain what function a land cruiser can do that one of those proforce vehicles cannot do, since you are implying they are for military operations
You can also explain the logic in this big spend at a time when Nigeria is undeniably broke.
We are waiting.
And I would have thought you would have something stronger than a pm news article after 1.hour of googling. Read some of my last few posts on this thread as I have captured most of your encumbrances. As for big spend/undeniably broke etc, how do I simplify it any further for you? Nigeria will continue to give foreign aid to more impoverished nations as long as we exist as a nation. End of story. It does not matter who is president. PS: You can keep some of the snide remarks aside it is unbecoming and at this stage, unnecessary. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:59pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
larride: Buhari deserve whatever controls he gets. Any administration that refuses to communicate to its citizens should be able for the Hundeyins to help them spread the information they refuse to share. You are 1 billion percent right and as I type here each time it pains me because I know Buhari does not deserve it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:34pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
Kantebets: didnt FFP exist when City signed plenty world stars in 2009 a year after Arab oil money? No. It came into effect 2014. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:29pm On Aug 04, 2022 |
Ihebu4chelsea: Newcastle dont have a project yet..... Big teams sets Target. If you have a defined project ( Like Man city in 2008/2009) Then you get the right players to execute the project!! Kantebets: Why is Newcastle not signing any new players despite the Saudi billionaire takeover who were reportedly richer than Man city FFP. |