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Sam Milla:A military base is a totally different kettle of fish from a prison that will be used to house convicted criminals in their own country. Also the only Nigerians that will be shipped back to serve their time in such a prison will be those who are in the UK illegally. Legal Nigerians residents in the UK who have committed a crime are also deported but from what I have gathered they are most times deported as free men once they have served their sentences and will have no need for such a prison. Agreed, they are not responsible for building Nigerian prisons but they are responsible for Nigerians who have been tried and convicted in their courts and who have no right to be in the UK. Hence, the offer to build a decent prison to house them in their own country. Do you know how many Nigerians in UK prisons use the state of Nigerian prisons as an excuse not to be deported? That being said I don’t want my tax money being used to build a prison in Nigeria because there are plenty of things that can be done with that money in the UK. If it were up to me I would simply ship the criminals on the day of conviction on the next thing smoking to Nigeria with a quickness! |
Sam Milla:Are the British responsible for building your schools? The Prison offer is what it is, an offer! If anything, it will stop Nigeria from being embarrassed on a world stage as most foreign prisoners opt to go home to serve their sentences. But it appears that the Nigerians in UK prisons have a major problem with going home to their country and that in itself speaks volumes. |
presido1:Because Jamaican prisons meet international standards unlike Nigeria. Jamaicans in UK prisons also don't cry foul when they are about to be sent home to serve their sentences, unlike Nigerians. Illegal Nigerians in prisons should be deported pronto in my view. No need to waste our money making sure their human rights are not abused as these individuals obviously didn't care about that when they committed their crimes. |
makib:True but the point is if they were really British the British Embassy and Reprieve would have heard about it. No one has said being a Briton in China justifies one hospitality or basic human rights. Being a Briton in China however means that your rights are guaranteed and will be fought for by the British Embassy in accordance with Chinese law. Etc if the Chinese can not legally arrest a Chinese man without just cause then they won't be able to do so to a Briton and get away with it. shotster50:Speaking for myself I am not getting salty. In my view there is no such thing as a 'British Nigerian' in cases like this. It is either you are or you aren't. I suspect that the people arrested were probably just Nigerians but are using the British angle in order to get help from the British because they know that he Nigerian government is a lost cause. Perhaps they lived in Britain for a spell and think they have the same rights but are not citizens. I suspect that the recent case of Nigerian born Samantha Orobator who is actually a British citizen and is being represented by the British has something to do with Nigerians in trouble abroad claiming to be British Nigerians when they are not. |
Sirbuddy I have no doubt that you probably saw was true however I doubt that the people you saw were British. Genuine British citizens don't get arrested without just cause and if they were the British Embassy and the British agency Reprieve would have been made aware in in a flash. The Chinese have a really good respectful relationship with the British and so there is no way that a British citizen would be imprisoned in China and the British embassy not informed. |
I doubt that they were British because if they had been the British human rights agency, Reprieve would have been all over the Chinese like a bad rash. Those Nigerians probably had fake British passports hence the reason why they were arrested. http://www.reprieve.org.uk/ |
Dis Guy:First point of call would have been the British government because by all accounts she was travelling as a Briton and not a Nigerian. Plus, given the reason the family were granted asylum in the UK in the first place I highly doubt that she had dual nationality with Nigeria. If she did have dual nationality with Nigeria then the British government wouldn't have gotten involved because in cases like this one has to choose one or the other. So the Nigerian government really don't have anything to do with this as she is not their citizen. But your right, thank God she's British because there are thousands of Nigerians languishing in foreign jails which the Nigerian government probably don't even know about much less care. Latest news is that the British foreign secretary has signed an agreement which will allow Samantha to continue her sentence home in Britain which I suppose is the better of two evils because it is not unheard of for people to die in squalid conditions in Laos jails without adequate healthcare and only being fed two bowls of pig water and another of sticky rice a day. Hardly the nutritious diet required for an expectant mother. It was only a year ago that another Briton died in vomit and shit in a Laos jail after falling ill and being denied access to a Doctor. |
SeanT21:Well the article is from a Nigerian source so maybe you should direct your anguish at them. For further note, most articles from the Nigerian press about a person abroad involved in a scandal who just happens to be Nigerian will state that they are Nigerian otherwise the story would not have an interest in the Nigerian media. ![]() |
@ D10 "Snicker* ![]() |
I love that First Plaza building in Marina. That style of building is one of my favourites, so elegant and dignified. |
My heart bleeds at the thought of the lost chance and opportunity for little Mercy. Anyone whose sees current pics of Baby David can not deny that the child is flourishing and enjoying the life of the privileged. One can only wonder what will become of Mercy as she continues life in a disease and rat infested orphanage. smh. God bless the children of Malawi. spikedcylinder:LMAO! Did she really? That's so funny. I like her even more now because she isn't in denial. |
4 Play:AHHHHHHH. . .BLASPHEMY!! ![]() The Queen is the constitutional British Head of State as well as the Australian Head of State, Canadian Head of State, also of New Zealand and the entire Commonwealth as well as many other territories. As Head of State, she personally signs every piece of legalisation that goes through Parliament. Without her signatory(Royal Assent), laws would be just a bit of worthless paper and she has the right not to sign should she not agree with the laws put before her. The Queen receives boxes and boxes of such official documents each day which all have to be read thoroughly. The Queen's loyalty is to her people and she will not sign anything that she feels would be a detriment to her people's welfare and well being. This is one of the benefits of being a Monarchy as opposed to a republic because she acts as a buffer between her people and the ones that operate her government which means the government are not just free to do what they want. The Queen also has the right to fire or hire a Prime Minister, she apparently fired the Australian one through her Governor General in the 1970s. After each election the Prime Minister has to personally ask the Queen for her permission to wield her power in Parliament. The British Prime Minister meets with her every week when possible to brief her on what is going on and she advises and warns him of any concerns. As the constitutional Monarch she is the richest person in the world with crown jewels, ancient medieval churches, cathedrals and thousands of rare pieces of art commissioned by Royals before her, palaces and castles over a 1000 years old, including the Houses of Parliament, some of which are too valuable for a monetary price to be put on them and these are big tourist pullers. Her personal wealth however is around $300 mill . She is also the first Royal to open two of her private homes Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle to the public and the money from these alone brought in around $100 mil and this money goes straight to the State. Although she receives money from the British tax payer she also pays tax even when she, as the Head of State, with every major government organisation operating in her name including the Her Majesty's treasury, is not required to do so and the tax she pays is more than what she receives. The Queen is also the Head of the British armed forces, The Australian armed forces and the Canadian one. The Queen is also the Supreme Governor of the Church of England,(Anglican Church) which has around 20 million members globally and is the only one that can appoint Archbishops and Bishops on the advice of her ministers. And that is just a snippet of what she does and is responsible for. Any more from you sha and I will be seeking to have you done for treason and tried in HER Majesty's court with a recommendation that you spend a few weeks in HER Majesty's ![]() Aside from that I thought is was really sweet the way The Queen and Michelle Obama seemed to click together. I can see the beginnings of a warm lasting friendship there. God Save The Queen! ![]() |
I do have a small business on the side, selling titbits on Ebay but I suppose I am too lazy to stretch myself further in that direction. The company I work for looks after their employees quite well and the perks are great so at the moment work life is a bit too cosy. May be when I'm a bit older. |
Ibime:The child was already in an orphanage. Relatives only showed up when Madonna showed interest. The same with David Banda; he was in an oprhanage but had a father who claimed he didn't have enough money to look after him but in the meantime the man had remarried and had other kids. Fake Africans. Poor Mercy, I hope Madonna appeals. |
SeanT21:To each their own but in my opinion life is way too short to be stuck in an office slaving away for the man. The British believe in a fair balance between work and life and I am blessed to be able to enjoy such terms in a foreign land. I am the envy of my colleagues who are obligated to work at least 50 hours a week while I can get away with working for just 37.5. One of my colleagues recently had a baby but had to be back at work 6 weeks after the birth. I doubt she thought it was worth it when one of our UK colleagues over the pond was off for a whole 6 months with full pay and a further six months on half pay. I do very much enjoy working in America but I think it is tolerable only because I have different terms and conditions from the Americans. No way could I deal with working all throughout the year and only having on average 10 days vacation. At my company the Americans do get on average 20 days though but that is still a far cry from the 30 days a year that I get plus all my public holidays. Life is great! |
afam4eva:I am employed by a British multinational and I had the opportunity to be seconded onto a global project that just happened to be based in San Diego, Cali. So far so good. It is actually quite nice working in America but having British employment terms and conditions. The amount of free time I get compared to my American colleagues is unbelievable but I try not to take the piss too much after all we are one team. The weather is fab too! ![]() |
No Comparison. Britannia rules the world. The US is big for nothing. In the USA, they speak OUR language and their laws are based on OUR laws, in short without Great Britain the US would be anything. I do believe the US is the best place for Nigerians though so Poster if you are thinking of what visa to apply for then the US it is. ![]() |
Is London a country? ![]() |
What specifically do you want to discuss about 'them'? |
afam4eva:Other than the fact that both states are in the same country, the topic had expanded slightly to include illegal immigrants and visas(which you brought up) in both countries. As I happen to live in Cali I just responded to a comment put to me by referencing my host state. |
[quote author=Ebony-Silk link=topic=251037.msg3654370#msg3654370 date=1238211775]We're comparing NY and London, , , ,you're using California to clarify your point.[/quote]Um no. You made some point about my seeing 'illegal neighbours' deported in London. My response was that I was used to it seeing as I lived in Cali, land of illegals and that it was nowhere near as bad in London. |
[quote author=Ebony-Silk link=topic=251037.msg3653651#msg3653651 date=1238195216]Is California in NY?[/quote]Erh. . . Who said anything about California being in NY? ![]() Or did you just ask that dumb question because you couldn't think of anything intelligent to respond with? |
[quote author=Ebony-Silk link=topic=251037.msg3653492#msg3653492 date=1238192026]Cheap as it is, it's not as easy to come here illigally as ur bros are stealing into London. How do you feel knowing the person living across from you might be deported tomor? [/quote]My heart will bleed. . . ![]() But in all honesty, I am currently on assignment in California and the place is bursting with illegals so I'm used to it. I was home in London for Christmas and it wasn't as bad as that. |
DeReloaded:Again, did it happen in London? Americans and their cheap visas. ![]() |
DeReloaded:Why are you apologising and who is 'Everyone'? A huge majority of Nigerians in the UK and have sneaked into the country on a crate on a crate. ![]() America has the visa lottery program and plenty of others designed to increase immigration. That plus it is also quite easy to sneak into America through the Mexican border and that is the reason why California and every US state which has a shares a border line with Mexico has essentially been eaten up by their South American neighbours. Illegals can stay in America for years on end before applying for a visa without returning back to their country while in the UK that is impossible. So just because a few of your mates are in the UK it doesn't negate the fact that the American visa is easier to obtain that the British one. DeReloaded:Did the accused black footballer get arrested in London? @Seant21 Give it a rest! No way is New York safer than London. It is always laughable when people start quoting percentages and not actual figures. New York has one murder for every 16,600 inhabitants, while London has one for every 38,900. Have you ever questioned the reason why the NYPD are always armed to the tilt with guns while the London Bobbie can get away with carrying just a truncheon? . Please be real. Quoting the number of university figures is also silly. Of course you are going to get more people attending NYU. It is a bigger university and so has the capacity to accept more students than UCL!Duh! |
afam4eva:Which pics can pass for any in a European City? afam4eva:London wasn't built to be a tourist city either. Besides every major Bank in the world has a branch in London. afam4eva:Spoken like a true British visa reject. Actually it is the other way around. Most people are refused Visas to the UK, get one for the US and start expressing their bitterness about not getting the highly valued British visa by slagging off the UK. ![]() [quote author=i_laugh link=topic=251037.msg3649716#msg3649716 date=1238151927]meaningless thread.[/quote]This thread is quite interesting. Love the pics of New York and the ones I found of London. Not too keen on the negative comments though. Your comment on the other hand is quite meaningless. |
[quote author=*Hauwa* link=topic=251037.msg3648296#msg3648296 date=1238114893]I agree with you Ebony. those towers in London, are they all churches? old church buildings all over london? i don't know you tell me Angie[/quote]Some are Churches, some castles, some palaces all built centuries ago. For some to suugest that they be knocked down to make way for a glass skyscraper is highly ludicrous. There are nearly a 100 churches, chapels and Abbeys in London (not the whole of the UK) which are over 200 years old. A couple of the most famous are St Margaret's Chapel originally built in the 12th century and then rebuilt in 1486. https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/506px-StMargaretsChurch.jpg Interior https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/800px-Saintmargaretsinteriorlondona.jpg Westminster Abbey originally founded in 616 . First stone building in 1065 survived fires, bombs with constant regeneration throughout the centuries with the last major regeneration in the 18th century. hundreds of historical people have had their funerals, weddings or are even buried or commemorated there including Shakespeare, Charles Dickins, Queen Victoria, Oscar Wilde, Jane Austen etc. This church is a world heritage site https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Westminster_abbey_west.jpg Westminster Abbey in the 1700s. https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Westminster_Abbey_by_Canaletto_1749.jpg |
blackspade:'Bad Belle' doesn't suit you. ![]() https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/kewgardens.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/buckinghampalace.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/gherkin.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/regentstreet2.jpg afam4eva:London has over a thousand public parks, commons and other open spaces. My favourite is Hyde Park located in West London. https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/hyde_470x300.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/one-hyde-park4.jpg |
World heritage sites in 'little' London. New York only has one (Statue of Liberty) by the way, as big as the city is ![]() Kew Gardens https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/312SFEC_LONDON-20070917.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/AH001484.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/KewGardensIceRink400.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Kew_Gardens_Temperate_House_-_Sept_.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Kew_Gradens_Sackler_Crossing.jpg Westminster Abbey https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Westminster_abbey_west.jpg Tower of London https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Tower_of_London_Traitors_Gate.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Tower_Of_London_-_White_Tower_March.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/Tower_of_london_from_swissre.jpg Greenwich Maritime https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/greenwich.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/p163590-London-Greenwich_Park.jpg |
lol! The pics of NY are amazing! Here are some more pics of the fabulous architecture and character that exemplifies London. https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/bigbenboudicia2b.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/253cq6.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/257yo1.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/272tj9.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/architecture.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/greenwich-02-700x669.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/o2.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/royalcourts.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/stmargarets.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/towerbrboat2yo2.jpg |
@Afam Yes London is an ancient city which blends the new with the old extremely well. New Yorkers wish they had ancient buildings like Westminster Abbey. St Paul's Cathedral and The Tower of London Attractions in London are plenty and more than enough to entertain the tens of millions that visit our 'small' city every year. You bleating on about the obvious ones again only highlights your severe foolishness tremendously. ![]() London Tourist attractions. London Zoo- World's oldest scientific zoo Kew Gardens - One of the world's oldest and largest botanical gardens. Wimbledon- The oldest and most respected Tennis tournament in the world. The Science Museum which holds over 300,000 items including the world's first jet engine, invented by a Londoner. London Dungeon The ORIGINAL Madame Tussauds- All the other's around the world are copies with ours being set up in 1836 by Marie Tussaud herself. ![]() London Planetarium London Aquarium Tower Bridge World famous London Bridge - Every body sing a long now, 'London Bridge is falling down, ' Westminster Abbey Buckingham Palace Imperial War Museum Sherlock Holmes Museum Tower of London built in 1076 The London Transport Museum-Find out about the beginnings of one of the earliest public transport systems in the world and of course the world's first subway system. Trafalgar Square Shakespear's Globe theatre home of Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet and Macbeth etc East Street Market- Birthplace and home of funny man Charlie Chaplin. Millennium Bridge Harrod's - ties with Macy's NY as the world's largest department store. St Paul's Cathedral. The Tate Modern London's theatreland which has more theatre locations than the whole of New York, including Broadway.If you love the theatre then live musical shows like Mary Poppins, Oliver Twist, Mama Mia, Dirty Dancing, Thriller, Joseph and The Lion King with original music by Londoner's Sir Elton John and Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber plus many more will keep entertained consistently. The O2 Centre, which is a world class concert venue and seats 20,000. The one and only Michael Jackson will take up residency there from July 2009 to Feb 2010 .The list is endless with plenty of shopping, fashion, restaurants and foods from every corner of the globe, live music and shows. But of course you and your cohorts wouldn't know that seen as you are only familiar with Peckham and the illegal Nigerians that congregate there in their make believe 'Lagos' they have created there. London as small as it is compared to New York and other major cities around the world stands very tall indeed. https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/460px-TrafalgarSquare.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london-eye-capsule1.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london-eye1.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london1.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london11.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london19.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london2.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london3.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london4.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london9.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london682007-480.jpg https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/owena13/london682007-474.jpg , |
As I said, London gave birth to New York. So you are really comparing the original to the copy. It is so obvious that you haven’t been to London hence the reason why you are in here running your mouth like any idiot would. ![]() Not only is London a world class city it is also one the greenest cities in the world. New York didn’t even make the list! The last time I was in New York I could hardly breathe for the lack of trees and fresh air. I was overwhelmed by concrete every where I looked and when I tried to get some oxygen in Central Park the place was crawling with undercover gay men checking out other men. The first underground travel network in the world was in London. London Zoo is the world’s oldest scientific zoo. London is the home of Tennis. Our ancient buildings and bridges have been standing for centuries and yet show no signs of dilapidation. If that is not a testament to our ingenuity then I don’t know what is. The first London Bridge was dismantled and reconstructed someplace in America and is still standing strong. Didn’t one of your bridges fall down the other day? In case you didn’t know most places in New York are named after places in London or England; Greenwich, Chelsea, Hudson river named after Londoner, Henry Hudson, Queens, Albany, Hempstead, Westchester…Even New York is named after the British Duke of York the list is endless and it is the same story across America. There are even a few places called ‘London’ in the US so go figure! New York was part of British America and one original states of America. Some dignified colonial buildings left by the British still exist but now the place is literally a concrete jungle overridden with crime and drugs with a murder rate that is one of the highest in the world. You mention skyscrapers. If you ask me sky scrapers are death traps. What happens when there is a major fire on a lower floor and you are stuck at the top? Don’t ask me, check back to see what happened on 9/11. Countless of people could have been saved but couldn’t because no one had put any thought into how to go about rescuing thousands of people from the hundredth floor of a burning sky scraper. London will be the only city that has hosted the games three times so your claim about the game not being held there in generations is mute and grossly ignorant to say the least! Nearly 50% of the people in New York weren’t even born there so your claim about people not getting visas easily again reeks of ignorance. Those who can’t get visas sneak in and try to etch some form of existence illegally. I doubt you have even been to New York because if you had seen Black Africans from all walks of life selling bootleg DVDs and fake designer handbags on the streets regardless of weather. And that’s just the Africans. Go down to Canal Street where every other Asian is probably illegal and dealing in fake goods. That’s desperation for you. I have yet to see that level of desperation in London. That being said I simply adore New York but London remains the original. Read this and weep! |
which I suppose is the better of two evils because it is not unheard of for people to die in squalid conditions in Laos jails without adequate healthcare and only being fed two bowls of pig water and another of sticky rice a day. Hardly the nutritious diet required for an expectant mother. It was only a year ago that another Briton died in vomit and shit in a Laos jail after falling ill and being denied access to a Doctor.


