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Jesus. This war is about to wear trouser and gown. For the love of Christ, Zelensky should negotiate and end this war quickly before more areas of Ukraine are destroyed.

If the current SMO upgrade to full blown war, many innocent people will die because Russia would be bombing indiscriminately. This is really bad. I hope this war will just end.

budaatum:
Ignorance is when one ignores simple facts, so let's see who ignores. Shall we?

For your information. All the invited leaders were asked to get the bus with none treated as 'more important' or 'lesser leader'. Some decided for themselves not to get the bus and brought their own vehicles and paid for their own security, and if anything, defined their own class.

Now scroll up and read my comment where someone implied the G7 leaders are more important. I won't add a link so you'd have to work not to ignore it.

You have moved from being deliberately ignorant to deliberate apologist or what were you trying to achieve by this puerile excuse you put up there?

Is it that you didn't read where the paper described some of the leaders as "lesser leaders" whom same paper anticipated that they would be given the bus option, which rightly happened according to how the organizers arranged it? The paper simply reported what was planned by the organizers and it turned out to be true, so I don't know why you're trying to be an apologist by bringing up the notion that had people like Buhari rode on a motorcade, some people would have said he was wasting our money. That's assumptional excuse that holds no water. The fact remains that the arrangement was degrading, to even suggest it was unwise and poor in terms of security. If their own papers is castigating it, it's simply because that is what it connote: some Animals are more equal than others. Simple.

Broveens42:
And they went to answer roll call ...see them smiling


But I have a feeling, only a person of obj caliber in Africa would have been treated differently... I don't know why
Or He wouldn't attend

Obj would never have taken the bus way.

shogsman:
You could have just let them bring two cars each that still won't be as much as the 30 car convoy Biden brought

Even a single car from each of their embassies would have sufficed.

budaatum:
Some just like insulting themselves and making themselves feel small.

Canadian PM Justin Trudeau arrived at the Abbey after travelling by bus. He is not an African leader the last time I checked. As did Anthony Albanese of Australia, and Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand, who said she did not understand the "fuss". Revealing she regularly makes her ministers carpool, Jacinda Ardern said yesterday: "I don’t think the bus warrants too much fuss."

But trust some ignorant people to make a fuss.

You're just being ignorant. You overlook the bigger picture to cherry-pick your assertion on what you think is 'balance' on a political pendulum that is otherwise blatantly unbalanced.

For a start, referring to some leaders as 'more important' and others as 'lesser leaders' is class discrimination defined, notwithstanding whether the actors/victims involved are whites or black.

If you call yourself a democracy which hinges on Equality, then every leader that attended the burial should be treated equally. But as usual, George Orwell was, and will always be right; some Animals are more equal than others.

Secondly, you ignored the security risk involved in cramming such huge numbers of leaders in buses. Like a thief, no one knows when terrorist cells may strike. Imagine if they decided to make global headlines by targeting the burial ceremony. A single drone strike or 2 to 3 suicide bombers dressed as security targeted one or both buses successfully, it means half if not all of an entire continent would be mourning the mass death of their leaders in different countries. Think about the political and economic upheaval that would resonate from such a scenario.

Guy, as much as you don't want to believe it, the fact remains that the bus arrangements for African leaders packed like sardines was bad in all aspects.

shogsman:
The London times call them lesser leaders

And these lesser leaders irredeemable blinded and zombified bots here on Nairaland would waste no time glorifying same white men and racists western mainstream media. Do you blame them for calling our leaders lesser leaders? We have sheep's and plantation niggaz here doing their biddings by gobbling all that the lying media throws their way. This is pathetic to watch.

It's high time African countries withdraw from the Commonwealth and watch the so-called British Empire's prestige crumbles like a pack of cards. But our enslave leaders who are wired to think they can't live without their slave overlords won't think of that. Just imagine how Commonwealth Games would look like without African participation. I would love to see the face of this irredeemable racist of a goblin King Charles when he would formally declare the Games open knowing that Africa, the formal British Empire's major pride isn't under its sphere of influence anymore.

shogsman:
Lmao, where are the idiots wailing and licking my Country's ass thinking they will get a pity visa out of it, even our own cnn admits the sanctions didn't work

Oh, so they've shifted the effect of the Sanctions to early next year?... How pathetic people can be.

I thought they said Russia is finished. It turns out that it's the western economy that is getting to the finish line.

Fact: Russia is too big to fail.

baralatie:
Fine!
If it is just business!
Who do you think has the greater power at the business table right now between china and Russia?

If both parties involved are happily selling and buying, it's because they love the terms of the contract and is favorable to both. So, your question doesn't make sense.

baralatie:
I do hope you guys realize that this war also affects china negatively

The war affects everyone.

baralatie:
Yes plausible but we should not forget it is a pipeline project.it has not been executed yet

The pipeline project is a different topic schedule to kick off soon. China is already buying huge quantity of Russian oil and gas via tankers.

baralatie:
If you were china with this advantage to buy and reject Russia gas because you have upper hand .
Will you buy at that price?

The question should be "are they buying the gas and oil or not?" Answer: they are buying in huge quantity more than ever, which means the price is favourable to the seller and the buyer. Period.

baralatie:
No
You should have asked yourself a simple question?
Who is the senior brother and who will be the junior brother?

This is childish. There are no senior or junior brothers in bilateral trade--just business. Mind you, Russia isn't the only country selling oil and gas. China buys oil from Saudi Arabia at large quantity, but don't expect them to not pounce at an opportunity to buy same oil even at cheaper rate from elsewhere, which in this case is Russia. Heck, even Saudi Arabia now buys Russian oil to sell also. It's all business.

The fact is, as long as the current price of oil ($85-95) is twice the amount ($40-45 last year) at which Russia pegged it's budget before the SMO began, they will always make profit even at discounted rate (say $70-$60). Once you're big, you're big. It's Europe that's the biggest loser here.

Vl3ly:
discount or no discount Russia is gaining more than ×20 because they are going to bergain on the current price which is $2500 not the initial price before war which is $100

Just imagine can Russia sell it gas $100 again

That gas inflation is the secret of the existence of this war

I must say I agree with you. Before the war started, there was a reported meeting between Russia and some Middle Eastern countries (you can guess who they are already) . It was perfectly timed with the NATO/Ukraine provocation of Russia vis the US plot to get it bogged down. Hence. The hasty and chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan with the sole purpose of focusing on a new front, which is this current war. But once again, the western economic/military/geopolitical planners underestimated and miscalculated Russia and the outcome this war would bring. If anyone think Russia would take off the soft gloves and upgrade this SMO to a full blown declaration of war, then that person would have to think again because this was a carefully planned operations hence, we saw how Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Venezuela, and OPEC simply gave the US the middle finger per the demand to release more oil into the market.

As long as this so-called Ukraine war lingers, countries like Russia will get richer, the cost of economic production in Europe will get higher while they will end up losing their competitive advantage in production and market share current and emerging markets from Asia, because if there is one thing you can never replace, it is CHEAP RESOURCES.

There is talk that another angle of the gas/oil price inflation as orchestrated by the current Ukraine war pushed by the US was a deliberate attempt to weaken Germany primarily and by extension, Europe which was becoming too independent to the liking of the US elite. And that is coming from within US own intelligence circle.

Unfortunately, Europe overreached its limit and is the one now paying the ultimate price.

As for Russia, it will continue to drag this war which is becoming obvious to everyone including western think-tanks. Because the longer it last the more money they make from natural resources. This war is far from over.

It is only simpletons that love to shout "Russia have lost the European market" forever. As I'm typing, Spain is covertly buying Russian oil while pretending to go with the Sanctions.

joyandfaith:
Foolish conclusion. Selling product cheaply means what? As long as Europe buys from china in dollar western block would be fine. Russia looses because it would sell to China at very discounted rate.

Such is the reality of economic influenced by politics. Yes, Russia sells at lower rates to China compare to what they sell to Europe while China sells at a much higher rate to Europe compared to what Europe buys from Russia directly. So, both loses while China gains.

Jokerman:
All still second fiddle to the mighty USA

You mean the one led by 99-year old Joe Biden who loved to shake "empty air?"

AyePappy:
Actually , I will rather choose Russia.

All the Russian billionaires in London , Paris and New York who all happen to be Jewish made their money in Russia. They only fled after Putin took over and put a stop to their heist.

Standard of living and cost is way better in Russia than anywhere in the west.

People have this very grim post soviet outlook of Russia but today's Russia has the highest density of millionaires and billionaires compared to any country in Europe.

If you intend going to Russia as a usual wage slave that heads to the US , Canada or UK, you will not make it. But if you intend growing and having a hustler business mindset , you will make it as Russia has everything the world needs .

Russia is meant for business minded people.

Emigrate to the US or UK if you are a wage slave .

Man who get sense.

Courtesy of the counteroffensive in Kherson, the Ukrainian army have managed to successfully occupied all the morgues in Nikolaev, Krivoy Rog and Odessa.

The first lady wasn't mincing words. She was stating a fact.

redseason:
The US and it’s EU allies have effectively lost this war. Before next weekend many European capitals would erupt with similar protests because with the total shutdown of NS1, inflation and gasflation would only get worse.

What even shocked me is the level of clean up and redevelopment of mauripol. Who did the black man offend? Chai, it will never be well with APC and PDP. #18.9b to clear bush, #50b monthly igr to pack dirty, even if you are packing the whole dirt in Africa, #779b to construct a 375km road at #2.12b per km. And you guys think Russia and Ukraine is our major problem! The energy and bad blood should be channeled towards demanding good governance and accountability. That’s what the Czech’s are currently doing.

Spot on.

BentizilL:
Assuming this was Russia now, CNN BBC Reuters no go allow us hear word again..
See crowd

More to come, you don't bite the hand that feeds you...
Meanwhile, winter is coming...

True.

The German government have announced a new $65 billion package to aid businesses and some citizens whose pockets have been cut off by the soaring price in energy cost. But they are already saying that this is not sustainable in the coming months as their economy is not designed to run subsidies. Italy has already spend up to $100 billion in increase expenses due to spike in energy cost. And now that Russia has closed the Nordestream 1 pipeline indefinitely, expect the prices to keep rising and more protests like this to hit many European capitals. Spain is secretly buying Russian oil while pretending to be playing along with the rest of the EU foolish gang of premature politicians. Unfortunately, CNN and BBC won't show much of this. Just as they went blank on the recent disastrous Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kherson.

Very pathetic to behold.

joyandfaith:
After how many days? Read military history. War is not a child play. For your information, counteroffensive is going on. 1,000,000 ukranians would engage Russia in counteroffensive.

Lmao. One million Ukrainians in your wildest dream. Ukraine is being decimated left and right and the comedian ediot think it's comedy skit. Unfortunately, it's not, and I won't be surprise if they turn on him soon.

joyandfaith:
It is too early to know if counteroffensive is a failure or successful.

It was a massive failure. Stop the pretence.

Owen247:
Good day netizens, please pardon any typos if any.

For some days now, Ukraine's military have been conducting counter-offensives in held parts of Ukraine, notably Kherson.

But to my suprise, no Nairalander is talking that this counter attacks are a succes or failure.
No Nairalander have shared links from Western medias like BBC,The Economist,CNN ETC. The list of such Western media is inexhuastible, that Ru army is down and trampled upon in Ukraine,why isn't there a woe betide Russian soliders in Ukraine message here?

So i ask,why is this so? Why isnt anybody talking? Why is everyone now quiet?

Sorry, brother . But the reason you think no one is talking about it is because you might have been looking at the wrong sources. Those mainstream media lying machines you mentioned are not even discussing the so-called Ukrainian counteroffensive because they already knew the truth: it was a catastrophic failure.

The recent Ukrainian assault on Kherson and the ZNPP saw more than 2000 Ukrainian men killed for nothing. You really expect CNN or BBC to give you such news?

Sorry, you won't find anything from there.

joyandfaith:
Why did ussr lost more soldiers than nazi Germany during ww2?

Because they fought tenaciously to defend their Homeland, in so much that there were Street fightings with hands and sticks. Not like Ukraine sending bunch of conscripts to die senselessly in a futile counteroffensive. Spot the difference.

Zimzy:
For those who have been saying Europe cannot survive without Russian gas, the gas is presently not flowing from Russia, let us watch and see how Europe will die or crash because of the stop of Russian gas. No single nation has absolute monopoly of anything. Europe must have planned for this a long time ago even before the war in Ukraine.

They did not plan for anything other than last ditch attempt to save face by their inexperienced flock of politicians. There are many players in the international oil and gas market, so Europe can always get alternative from elsewhere. But here is the catch: there is no substitute for 'cheap oil and gas' when it comes to competitive advantage in market share. This is the sad reality of this crisis for European economies that will end up losing market to others in South and East Asia.

Hanibbal:
White house is about to ask congress for 11.9 billion USD weapons aid for Ukraine again. These people does not want this war to end. They think their continuous support for Ukraine would make Russia run out of ammo.

Such is the reality of the world we are living in. They can be asking for billions of aid for Ukraine most of which never get to the frontlines by the way, yet they cannot provide water for thousands of American citizens in Jackson. Pathetic.

nsiba:
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You don't mean it!
Only 30% with girls, women and grandpa army and the Ukrainians are killing Russians like cockroaches, no wonder just one of your legs got blown off
30% and Russians are dying, I tell you DerrickzB the USA will use an army of pregnant women and level Russia in 24hrs

You and DerrickzB are crazy.

Shoodboi:
How many of those weapons left the US in the first instance? How many of them even existed or were manufactured?

Billions of dollars and Ukraine has little to show for it. The few times they send something tangible, the media makes a lot of noise about it for a few days before going silent. And the cycle continues while Ukrainians die and everyone picks a bit of whatever is left.

Russia is seizing territory. The West is stealing money. Turkey is seeking influence and Ukraine keeps losing.

Russia has stopped supplying gas to most of Europe while increasing supplies to China. Europe is then buying the gas from China at higher prices.

Meanwhile, UEFA passed a law allowing foreign players in Ukrainian clubs to leave without the clubs getting paid a dime. Zelensky himself stopped the clubs from relocating abroad just so he can show he's a strongman.

Now, Ukrianian clubs are playing matches in empty stadiums with players prepared to run into bunkers at the first call. Who plays soccer in an active warzone?

As usual, the war is just another cashcow for the politicians in Ukraine and the West while the common Ukrainian loses.

You have sense. There is a documentary on how members of the SBU and Zelensky inner circle are driving exotic cars - cars they cannot afford with their basic salaries even if they accumulate them for 8 years - and leaving luxurious lifestyle while common Ukrainians are conscripted and sent to the Russian meat grinder on the frontlines. I hope this war would end soon. But as long as the politicians are making a kill off it, something tells me it's just getting started.

American politicians can coveniently send $40 billion in sham aid to Ukraine while thousands of Americans in Jackson don't have running water. This world is wicked.

rottennaija:
We see many rejoicing at the failures of the Ukrainian Armed Forces today and the last 3 days.

Yes, this was Ukraine’s strongest moment of the war, their biggest effort and yes, it appears that so far, it has failed on a large scale.

However, it is too early to call it a complete failure. American and British commanders who orchestrated this have failed, undoubtedly. But every failure allows you to make corrections.

There are still holes to exploit in Russian Armed Forces defence in Kherson. Ukraine used a medium sized force. They did not go “balls in” as they could have— meaning they still have a lot of guys to throw into the meat grinder under a revised strategy. To be honest, we initially gave them way more credit than deserved as we anticipated it’ll be planned by NATO. The approach they chose was heavily flawed. We expected strategic use of HIMARS on Russian Armed Forces supplies and carefully chosen targeting of Russian Armed Forces hardware as well as a large infantry build up near Dniepr — which the Ukrainians can still launch, but clearly there’s a reason why they didn’t— likely because Russia can destroy them there very easily from a standoff distance. But this can always change.

It is highly unlikely they will succeed, we stand by our original statement made weeks ago, Kherson is a suicide mission for the Ukrainians. But they can still inflict damage.

One of 2 things are gonna happen: after today’s Zaporozhie NPP circus by Ukrainian special forces, Ukrainians will count their losses and pull back. OR, they will launch an all-in attack in coming days, where they’ll lose hordes of men (Russia will too, but not as many)

We must wait and see. This offensive is an embarrassment to the officers who planned it, the 2 missions were a failure. — however, it is too early to call the whole offensive a complete failure.



/asbmil

The two missions - the Kherson counteroffensive and the ZNPP attack - are complete failures, and will always fail anytime they they carry them out.

Just as retired Colonel Douglas McGregor puts it, "no modern army can take back Kherson in its current formation because the Russians hold all the aces". The air power, artillery pieces, standoff missiles and more experienced forces. It will always be a suicide mission.

seunny4lif:
For those of you who were wondering why Russia never bombed the Ukrainian Armed Forces HQ or Ukraine Security Service HQ in Kiev, here’s your answer.
You don’t bomb your own spies and informants.
Ukraine MOD have been feeding Russia MOD as anytime Ukraine MOD announced Counteroffensive, then Russia increased her own military campaign in that region

It's as simple as that.never stop or interface with your enemy when he is making a mistake.

The ediots lost a whole brigade (the 128 Transcarpthia Brigade) in the so-called Kherson counteroffensive, which led to mourning being declared.

Another 350+ members of Ukrainian elite commando group trained by British and American forces recently were destroyed when they attempted to storm the ZNPP in the wake of the IAEA's team visit. They were met by Russian helicopters who sank some of the barges the Ukros were using to cross the river. One badge consisting of 60 commandos made it to shore but met heavy gunfire and mortal fire which killed almost all of them, leaving 3 men captured, one in good shape and two in critical condition. The plan was to take the IAEA visiting team hostage and blame the Russians for it. The commandos were putting on Russian uniforms. Unfortunately for them, Russia got to know of it through good Intel.


"A day without Ukraine making foolish attempt and sending Ukrainian cannon folders to the Russian meat grinder is a day wasted,"- Zelensky.

joyandfaith:
Are soldiers not meant to be killed? Some people are so dumb. Eastern propaganda.

No, soldiers are not meant to be killed by sending them into the enemy's meat grinder.