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paafin:
The Allied forces of the Russian federation and LPR liberated the city of Lisichansk from the Ukrainian military, thereby freeing the last city in the region of the Luhansk people's republic.

New battle fronts opens at the Severks-Soledar line.

That leaves the Donetsk region next in line for liberation. The way Lysichansk fell entails the speed at which this operations is going, mainly due to the fact that the Ukraine army no longer has much fight left in its ranks.

Igbofam will not like this news. You guys should give him a link to a dead Russian general so he can be happy and stay relevant.

Russia is achieving its objectives in Ukraine. The way the city of Lysychansk fell to the Russians shows that Ukraine have no more fighting left in its armed forces.

BritishNaija:
With this your long epistle, you still failed to make sense or clerify things. Instead your expose your lack of knowledge.

First, The News that Syria hit F35 is false, you also do not know anything about Bird strike, because if you do, you should know it has been bringing down planes no matter the cost of the plane and should be avoided at all cost.

Again, No one know told you that Shealth means total invisibility of the Aircraft.. For example, If S-400 can detect and engage f-16 from 400km, it can't detect Shealth plane until tens of kilometers, which makes it too late. B-2 Bomber is the most dangerous, as it has radar cross section the size of a bee, even if the S-400 manages to detect it at that size, it can't engage it.

Please when did US rebuffed China from buying S-400? You have Come again, What business does US have with China acquiring S-400?


And stop posting false news, Israel F-35s Started flying sorties Into Syria in 2018 and was never combat ready in 2017, talkless of being hit.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/22/613259802/israel-says-f-35s-see-first-ever-combat-with-idf-over-syria

French Intelligence report made published by a French journalist, Thomas Newdick, in Airforces Monthly, reaffirmed irmed Israel rushed the F-35 into action against Syrian missile batteries and shipment to Hezbollah one month after receiving them from the US.

No matter how they tried to twist it, is obvious they used the plane in 2017. Stop making excuses for them.

BritishNaija:
That is a False. Russia have never engaged Ukraine forces or lunched Missile attacks from Belarus until days ago, Which was Well published. And was done by it bombers. Do not swallow everything you read, verify first.


Any attack done by Russia from Belarus will be Well detected and published

It's fact, not false. Many other reports carried it.

Drenimarcus:
He is on kool-aid. They sent parts of this to Russia as a gift sef.

They downed another US drone few years back, i think 2017 or so.

Today, the Chinese were showcasing their weapons and the Russian S-400 was amongst their weapons.

S-400 that everyone is rushing like hot cake, even the US low-key wants it.

Russia,China,North Korea and Iran. Any US weapons that nears them go collect wotoporously

Emotions rather than logic is what shape most of the reasoning and comments of our brothers from the other side of the geopolitical spectrum. You don't have to be pro-east or pro-west to see and deduct facts and make logical conclusions when provided with certain premises. This is how folks evade propaganda.

BritishNaija:
Bro, the drone cost around $6 million and not $100m. You like to exaggerate things a lot.

Oh, my bad. But not exaggerating things. I mistook the price of the RQ-A4 Global Hawk drone for the Sentinel. It will interest you to know that the A4 Global Hawk cost the US government $220 million each to build and equip. Iran shot it down in 2019.

The point is, you should stop glorifying stealth and your friend should stop glorifying US drones.

Drones are great for modern combat and stealth is a plus for survivability. But like every other piece of metal out there, they are not spirits to hostile environments with sophisticated A2/AD capabilities. That's the moral lesson of this argument.

And thanks for correcting my error.

okeysoninv:
rubbish , Israel has been giving them wotowoto back to back with all the s300, s400 pantsir trash. why did turkey stopped further purchase of s400 after repeated strike from Israel.
do you even understand how kamikaze drone operate and air defense. a low flying kamikaze suicide will take that shit* to clearer.
USA McQ is of no match to any drone on Earth. is a priceless drone not to toil with.

Lmao Such ignorance. It's open secret that Russia and Israel has a mutual understanding regarding Israeli operations in Syria. Go and research before you spew falsehood.

You know that the S-400 is no joke when the US is pressuring nations not to buy it. Even it's allies are cueing up for it.

What? US drone so sophisticated that it cannot be toiled with? Are you for real?

The most sophisticated US stealth drone ever operated was jammed, hijacked, commandeered and captured by Iran in 2011, and here you are hyping what you know nothing about.

The RQ-170 Sentinel is so advanced, stealthy hard to detect, costing more than $100 million, and can fly at an attitude of 55,000 feet.

After the Iranians captured it, they invited the Chinese and together they reverse engineered it to produce their own versions. It was that incident that made the US to realise the futility of contemplating invading Iran.

See the picture below.

Brother, do research and stop arguing blindly.

Peace.

BritishNaija:
Anyone of the candidates camp that is able to convince me, I unleash my Anonymous Crew members for full supports, both in Cyber promotions or DDOS of Any sites of choice. No matter the War in Ukraine, Iand my team members made up of Russians and Ukrainiand Cyber "A" teams are in good terms, and I pride myself being the Supervisor and having the final decision making power.

So you're a hacker planning to hack the next coming election in Nigeria?

SSS must hear this.

okeysoninv:
no be only pant sir rubbish. kamikaze flew 150miles into Russia territory and bomb hell out of ruscists oil refinery. where is the touted missiles in Russia soil.

Lmoa. Unguarded oil rig in the middle of sea can be targeted by anything except useless drones like Kamikaze that can't even reach the said range in flying hours. Take your propaganda elsewhere.

Ukrainian drones are being destroyed by Russia anyhow.

Criminal western banksters and their Rothchild band of diabolic plunderers will soon pay Uganda a visit via gunboat diplomacy.

It won't be long.

seunny4lif:
Japan doesn’t consider Russia’s decree on the Sakhalin-2 gas and oil project as a requisition, the country’s minister of economy, trade and industry has said.

The Japanese government believes the decree signed by Putin is asking current stakeholders whether they agree to hand over all rights of the project to a new company, Koichi Hagiuda told reporters.

Putin signed the decree on Thursday to take charge of the Sakhalin-2 project in Russia’s far east, a move that could force Shell and Japan’s Mitsui and Mitsubishi to abandon their investments in the project.

Now Japan is complaining about it but I thought they want out of Russia before or is it not what they said before

The way they demonstrate their frustration is hilarious.

Russia, the first country to field Hypersonic missiles and the only country to have weapons to neutralise them. Fear Russia.

okeysoninv:
only kamikaze drone will send this carcass into Oblivion

You mean the Kamikaze drones that were sent to Ukraine and touted by the Lamestream media as a "game changer" only for them to be destroyed by Russian Pantsir SA systems?

I hear you.

BritishNaija:
You see you, I'm not disputing if Russia S-400 shutdown Ukrainain Jet, Both side have been knocking eachother,

But I'm disputing the lie you told about S-400 stationed in Belarus shutdown Jet in kiev.

Did you read the news and headline? Russia have not, and did not deploy the S-400 in Ukraine, but in Belarus, and is from there it took out the plane. Read it again.

BritishNaija:


I have to laugh, Please Where do you get this lie from? Russia S-400 in Belarus took out Jet in Kiev? Please never you tell that fables to anyone else; It didn't happen Bro.

There a lot of ways to destroy Russia SAMs Which the US is Very Well capable of.

Say you were shocked and disappointed at the same time, lol. Or do you expect the western Lamestream media to have reported it? Nah...that's is not in the Ukraine-is-winning scripted narrative.

BritishNaija:
When you tell a lie,you have to tell another one to keep defrnding it.

I'm glad i follow up on Israel News and Well updated. You lied saying Israel F-35 was hit by SAM missile in Syria;That is false.
In 2017, An Incident happen invoving f-35 birdstriking during testing weeks ago, it was well published, and later in the day Syria Goverment claimed be Downed Israel War plane that violated it Airspace; the claim was false, But instead Media houses said f-35 was down, which was wrong. Israel F-35s became combat ready in 2018, while those fables happened in 2017.

The major problem with you is that you always allow your jingoistic emotional outplay to beguile your sense of reasoning and fact checking.

Israel used the F35 in Syria on October 16, 2017 to be precise. Check the attached picture below.

It doesn't matter whether the Syrian claim is the true account of the event that happened that day. The fact is, the F-35 was damaged and Israel said it was a bird strike that damaged the plane, which is even more embarrassing. Of what use is a plane that cost 96 million if a single bird can take it out? That's the question. Moreover, prior to that incident, there was no reported case of an IDF plane involving a bird strike two weeks backward. Why claiming it was a bird strike now if the plane wasn't involved in the raid carried out to prove a point to the visiting Russian General? And if the news wasn't reported two weeks ago, how did the Syrian army knew about the damaged F-35? Use your sense. Funny enough, the news about the damaged F35 flying coffin was first carried by an Israeli news outlet as at when the Syrians made public their claim. It was obvious the IDF was just trying to manage the embarrassment by claiming it was a bird strike, an incident they said happened two weeks ago that no news body deemed it fit to report considering the status of the fighter plane. How alluring. They can only fool kids like you, not folks like us. Deductive and logical reasoning affirms that the F35 was hit by fragment of Syrian counter battery fire.

You saying Shealth is absolute makes you soud like a joker, i won't go futher than that because it's obvious you don't know What Shealth Aircraft are capable of doing.

It's obvious you're one of those simpletons who are bewildered by sounds of words, rather than the reality of their meaning and usage.

Who told you stealth means invisibility? Stealth only reduces a plane radar signature, and increase the pilot survivability. Otherwise, it doesn't make you invisible as some of you kids love to parrot. In a hotly contested aerier environment that include the likes of the S-400, your stealth technology is just another useless expensive piece of metal. If the Serbs can take out a US Stealth fighter with an outdated 1960 Soviet SAM, know that none of your stealth fighters stand a chance in a highly contested environment involving modern defense systems. Stop kidding yourself.

As for US Blocking Countries from buying S-400, its a Very Simple agreement, If you are benefiting from US Aircraft programs, you are not allow to buy Russia made SAMs. If you are not benefitting, you can go ahead and As many As you can without US disturbing you.

What is this? Is Algeria benefitting from US fighter programs? Is China benefiting from US fighter program? It's even obvious you don't know what you're talking about. The proliferation of advanced enemy systems like the Russian S-400 and other notable armaments from Russia and China pose a serious risk of eroding US ultimate advantage in different areas of warefare especially in the air. Why weren't they sanctioning countries that purchase Russian weapons before now? Have you asked yourself?

BritishNaija:
All Being destroyed. We are way past Vietnam Era Which was like analog era. Excluding F-35,F-22,B-2. There are now Several was non Shealthy Jets could defeat Russia SAM sites, Standoff Ammunitions, Jamming of the Radars and flying the normal oldschool way if the terrain permits.

Let me tell you an example of how SAMs have become even better. Just in the first month of the Ukraine Brouhaha, the Russian S400 took out a Ukrianian plane in the center of Kiev skies, and guess where it fired from? More than 150 kilometers away from Belarus where it was stationed, creating a world record.

Bro, warfare has improved rapidly in all areas.

Onigawara:
See another one.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a19784775/gotland-class-sub-ronald-reagan-war-games

I just can't wait to see those us aircraft carriers in actual combat against competent enemies

They did another one recently, I don't know why I can't find it again.

Drenimarcus:
Once i see folks who are hell bent on not learning, i just dismiss them. In this world we are now, no country has no monopoly of military. You must have strengths and weaknesses. You fortify your strengths and work on your weakness.

But the Hollywood-induced followers are not willing to listen and learn. No point in going back and forth.


I know their almighty US Military will soon venture in another war after this. We will be waiting and watching.

The US has never won a single war by itself. The ones he tried gave it a resounding defeat. Hence they usually drag allies around to cushion their effect.

Onigawara:
I think it was a canadian ship actually
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dutch-submarine-sinks-half-of-us-navy-ctf-in-1990-and-more.142292/

Lmao.

BritishNaija:
Please tell me What toys They tried in Syria, I want to know,.I hate it when you make things up.
It's on record that Israel is the only country that have engaged their f-35s in active combat in Syria. Israel F-35s flew more than 200 sorties Into syrial without the russian made S-systems stationed there knowing when they came or left.

No one is making things up. Just use your common sense and reason independently.

If the US is threatening to sanction other nations from buying a particular weapon, don't you think it's because such weapon surpassed their capability?

Russia have been selling weapons to many nations before now. Why is the US sanctioning nations and threatening nations on the S400 alone? Why not other SAMs before now?

Fact: it's because it make their stealth planes obsolete, which was what it was designed to do--detect and destroy stealth planes. Use your head bro. You don't have to be pro-east or pro-west to decipher and admit facts where they are logical and clear.

LMAO. When last did you hear Israel using their F-35 in Syria?

The very first period they tried it, one of the F-35 flying coffin proved to be the coffin it was when a Syrian S-200 missiles exploded close to it and the plane was damaged in so much that they have to put it out of service. To save Lockheed Martins the embarrassment, the IDF lied that it was a bird strike that took out the plane.

Okay, let's even go with the IDF side of the story and believe it was taken out by a bird. Of what use is a $96 million fighter if it can easily be taken out by a bird?

Well, let's allow that to slide.

Use your common sense. There is a reason why Turkey, a NATO member went for the Russian S-400 despite investing so much already in the F-35 program; because they are aware of what it does over the Syrian skies, "painting" all US planes in Syria. And since the Turks own the Icirlik airbase where American F22 and other planes were stationed, they were aware of the S400 capabilities.

Same reason why Saudi wanted it. Same reason why UAE wanted it. Same reason India purchased it after China, and Algeria signed contract for it's delivery. Same reason why the US doesn't want the proliferation of the weapon hence the introduction of CAATSA.

Bro, that thing works.

And mind you, Russia and Israel have a gentleman agreement where the Russians always look the other away whenever the IDF bombed targets in Syria. This is open secret.

Drenimarcus:
See people wey deh chop my tax money crying These Iranians are bastards, making mockery of the almighty US Military

What else do you expect when you have an army that is laden with sissies and politically correct gender rights to serve and lead? It's embarrassing.

Onigawara:
If them don dress in their glossy uniform and carrying clean M16 rifle, you go think say they are more competent than Taliban recruits. Not knowing that na snowflakes, gays, and cowards them be. See as them dey cry like pű$$ys

Very embarrassing.

BritishNaija:
We are not in veitnam era, and Please i do appreciate some of you Always read to understand the arguement. He was referring to US Air power, Which i say he can't be destroyed. No country can do that for now.

When you said it cannot be destroyed, are you referring to the whole airforce or just planes? I figure you are referring to the second, which is why I pointed Vietnam to you because it doesn't make sense for someone to claim you can destroy the whole air Force of a country.

And by the way, what make you think we are past Vietnam? Just as planes have increased in sophistication in the 21st century, same way way SAMs have even become better.

redseason:
1) ICBMs are designed to carry both nuclear or conventional warheads.

2)Wrong! Carriers/ships are radar visible just like planes. Reason the US said the zumwalt is stealth(meaning reduced radar cross section), carriers/ships are very visible to radars and satellites. How do you think even civilian ships are tracked? Same way both civilian and military planes are tracked on radar.

3)True they are moving, but once their geolocation is gotten, an anti ship missile uses a combination of inertia, radar homing and infrared heat seekers to seek the heat coming from the ship. Same technology applies to a moving aircraft fired upon, the missiles simply follow its heat signature despite it still flying at supersonic or subsonic speeds, much less ships.

4) True Carriers move with a carrier strike group which ensures it’s protection, but this is against a small nation that would never dare go confrontational. No carrier group can go close to the waters of a major power because despite its protection, its defenses will be overwhelmed by a barrage of cheap missiles than its anti missile shield can handle and one hit each sinks them on high sea. Which carrier group can sustainable survive say a barrage of 1000 strikes coming with decoys?

Every fact I stated are easily verifiable.

I wanted to reply but seeing your post, there is no need. You just schooled him.

Thumbs Up.

Onigawara:
I mean what I said and I will stand my ground!
Aircraft carriers are literally sitting ducks.
This is not the era when ships were a force to reckon with.

In an all out war, do you realize that the Russians would be putting into use their intercontinental ballistic missiles?

Let's assume a scenario where russia launches a surprise attack, with their ICBM on the naval base where these ships are ducked. Like I said, aircraft carriers are very big ships which would make them a sitting duck. Russia literally sees where they are via satellite images. Meaning, strikes could be called upon them any time and anywhere. The funny thing is, befire russia does that, I mean we all know that Russia dominates in space. So I'd expect Russian space weapons to have taken out us satellites in space, leaving them totally dumbfounded.

If the USA chooses to sail the ships from their docks, and into the sea to reduce the risk of getting dunked, Russia can sent its destroyers and nuclear torpedo submarines after them. It is worth nothing that, just 5 hypersonic missiles could take down a US navy aircraft carriers and ten for the most advanced which is the USS Gerald.

This isn't the era when countries attack blindly without having proper intel on what they're dealing with. These days, there are satellites to monitor enemy movements and the number and capability of enemy you would be facing. Naval battle would be completely disastrous in the next warfare. Why?

Apart from submarines which moves deep in the sea, there's absolutely noway to mask your ship movement in the sea. On land, it is possible to transport military hardwares and troops at nights, without satellites seeing it. It is also possible to camouflage your equipments using trees and leaves.

Meanwhile on sea, moving aircraft carriers to and fro would be seen, giving your enemy the opportunity to set in place, the perfect counters for whatever you're bringing.

For instance, let's assume the USA is moving its naval fleet to attack Crimea or saints pertersburg. The Russians would see the movement glaring and transport bastion coastal anti ship missiles to the coastal cities of saints Petersburg and move too its destroyers, as well as anti submarine aircrafts. Russua would've known how many ships, the nature of the ships, the extimated arrival time and how to counter them. So they will set in place the perfect counter for the attack.


Let me ask you a question. When Japan surprised the US by attacking pearl harbor, we all know that they destroyed pretty much every ship that was docked in the naval base.
The question is, would the result have been the same if the USA knew that they would be attacked? Imagine satellites existed then, and the USA saw Japanese movement with aircraft carriers loaded with bombers and attack aircrafts and destroyers, wouldn't they have prepared for them? Would any of the Japanese ship had escaped that day? No, they would've been crushed

Stop wasting your time with folks that thrive on delusion.

All Aircraft careers are big, phat target just awaiting destructions. This is the age of Hypersonic missiles technology which renders all Aircraft career obsolete except against third world nations.

In 2006 during a US live fire exercise where all weapons and jamming technology are activated to test their capabilities, a Chinese Kilo-Class submarine emerged behind the US naval aircraft carrier after bypassing all the other accompany ships, and appeared at the rear of the carrier, which angered the US Navy so much. You know why? Because it means that supposing the sub decided to take out all of them, or the carrier alone, it could have done so easily, killing as much as 2000 men. The event also overwhelmingly dismissed the lie that no enemy surface or underwater vessel can reach a US Carrier strike group undetected before it would be destroyed.

And guess who produced that submarine--Russia.

In 2014, during another NATO live exercise, the French Navy sank the USS Theodore Roosevelt Fleet Carrier using a 30 year old submarine. The sub also took some accompanying ships with it . The French were so delighted in so much that they put the news on the French naval official website, and as the news broke out, the Americans were angry and the French quickly pulled down the news to save the US Navy the embarrassment.

But some of this kids here don't know about this, yet they are not willing to learn real facts.

And if you think it's over, you're lying.

Recently, during another NATO and allied forces exercise, Sweden sunk another US Carrier which was so embarrassing for the Americans. But these kids here don't know about these events because they delight only in news that glorify America, not the ones that points out it flaws, deception and failures.

The fact is, in this era of military technology, no single nation can claim overlord in all theaters of warefare. While you may be good in air attack, another is specialist in air defense, and so on and so forth.

But it's such unfortunate that the sheeples we have here on Nairaland thinks that the US is the alpha and omega of Military capability.

So, I usually leave most of them to bask in the folly of their ignorance and arrogance.

BritishNaija:
Mr go and Research not me, you don't know the capabilitiesof f-35, this was how Mr Hypersonic took His luck to quora and get schooled.

Taking out Russia S-400 systems have already be done and dusted by US. Or you don't or have not heard of Radar jammers? You people will just be Typing rubbish without knowing anything.

The US still have no counter measure against the Russian S-400, they tried all their best toys against it in Syria and it turns out they are lagging behind badly.

Radar Jammers? Everyone have them.

The only counter measure they have at the moment against S-400 is CAATSA.

Svlla:
Asin they are so brainwashed to the point that they can't think for themselves anymore.

If not for this Russian Ukrainian crisis that has exposed alot of thing many of them will still be living in fantasy land

US will eventually catch-up because they have the endless Dollar printing to do it.

But the scary aspect of this area of technology is that, while Russia is a decade ahead, and by the time the US eventually catch-up, Russia would have added another decade to being ahead and make US Hypersonic missiles obsolete because they are the only country currently that field weapons capable of intercepting and destroying Hypersonic missiles courtesy of the S-350 and S-500.

The Russians are bastards.

Onigawara:
In a conflict with a competent military like mother russia or China, the USA would lose all its aircraft carriers in just the first week of the war. Meanwhile aircrafts are pretty useless long range weapons because they will run out of fuel before reaching their targets if the target is thousands of kilometers away from the border of the aurcraft operator. Ofcourse there are aircrafts too that refuel fighter jets mid air. But like heavy bombers, they're slow and big meaning even the most shitty SAM could take them down in one go, not to even talk about S300, S400 and other proven SAM batteries.


That USA you keep seeing displaying their aircraft carriers, military hardwares and troops in glossy uniforms. Wait till you see them fight an actual competent enemy without nukes. The world realize how vulnerable they are. There is a reason why they keep shying away from engaging mother russia physically in a fight, despite according to western media's, they have more than 20 allies in NATO hence would steamroll russia or China. Their leaders may be useless but I'm sure they're not delusional enough to agree with this common superstition.

US soldiers only brag and swag against third-world nations.

See how their soldiers cried like babies when captured by Iranian coast guards. They will just shiit in their pants when they faced formidable Russian ground forces.

The Iranian Revolutionary guards treated them like ordinary Somali Pirate criminals and Pentagon went mad.

tamdun:
And some olodo won't stop bragging about huge US budget for weapon

What many people don't know is that much of the US military budgets are spent on bases maintenance and stationaries, only a small amount is dedicated to real weapon research and purchases.

Military spending does not equate capability.

BritishNaija:
But you can't destroy their Jet Aircraft, and They keep building more powerful ones.

You can't do what? No aircraft is immune to sophisticated defense systems. Ask the US airforce how many aerial vehicles they lost in Vietnam.