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Igbofam:
Same Cruise Ship that attacked Snake Island has been hit and sunk by Ukrainian forces

Ol boy Ukrainians do not forgive and forget

Russia should come and try to take Odessa

You fell for this cheap Ukrainian propaganda? Well, I'm not surprised. Ukraine did nothing here.

There was an explosion, probably from a floating mine (which are in that area) or some other form of incidence (they do happen to ships).

Even the US have contradicted all the Ukrainian claim of sinking the ship.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/europe/russia-navy-cruiser-moskva-fire-abandoned-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

Ukraine is just claiming glory to boost moral as it's forces keeps surrendering enmass in the east.

Ukrainian propanganda that they hit the ship with Neptune missiles. What a joke.

The Ukraine I know will film themselves releasing the missiles and hitting the ship and put it on social media since that is where they're winning the war. But here, no filming of the missile being released, no evidence of ship sunk. Even the US have said it cannot verify the Ukrainian claims.

The ship probably hit a floating mine since there are lots of them in that area, or some form of incidence within it. Ukraine is just claiming a glory that doesn't belong to it to high moral amongst it's forces as many of them have been surrendering en mass lately.

KaluwisxPRO:
How many soldiers dey Mariupol if you take 1000 marine and the city is still standing?

Russia and their lying propaganda.

There are no soldiers fighting in the main city anymore except for a few pockets which are hiding in buildings and they're being flushed out by Chechen special ops. The ones left are those holed up in the Azovstal steel complex, which is an underground facility.

Samken2:
So I thought the say the will die fighting.
Omo what's our peace ETA of Istanbul , I thought talks were ongoing

How can you die fighting when you're hungry? They are short of food supply, ammo and many wounded colleagues are among them. They have no option but to surrender.

Chuksyno:
So these battalion of Ukrainian soldiers surrendered yet Russia have not taken control of Mariupol 100%? My brother fear propaganda!

Is not propaganda. Azov is a full regiment and most of them are holed up below the Azovstal steel complex, an underground facility that look like a mini town of its own.

railone:
Tueehhh... at this point you're beyond help.
Go back I read what I said from beginning and provide where I mentioned anything about Article 5.
Did NATO said the fought the Serbian because of Article 5?
you just manufacture baseless nonsense and attribute it to me.

I ask you a simple question you refuse to answer instead you blab over nothing. An attack on Dutch forces on a peacekeeping mission, is it not considered an attack on Netherland?
The UN declared those regions a safe space and yet the Serbians attacked it which is why NATO was dragged into it.

Why is it that when Assad formally requested Russia help in the Civil War, Russia delegations had to meet the US delegations that were already in Syria fighting ISIS to ensure that both side don't attack each other even by mistake?

You can attack forces that are not at war with you. If you don't know something that is that simple then why do you even comment on military threads.
you need enlightenment, seriously

Stop beating around the bush like a caged animal. What was the purpose of NATO? The wars they have engaged in, does it meet the criteria of the bloc's rousing charter? No. They just entered those war because they feel the need to, not that they were attacked directly. In other words, NATO have done more attack than defend. Stop making stupid excuses for them.

NairaMaster1:
For planning a week military operation that has taken them forever and claimed thousands of their men. Shame!!!

It took the United States 6 months to plan Operation Desert storm and another month to start it's implementation even with the help of an ally. War no be moi moi.

The US fought for many months in Vietnam and left without achieving a single objective with body bags more than 50,000 returned home.

This is the face of justice of the land some ediotic Africans can't stop referring to it's visa when commenting on issues on Nairaland because they are suffering from.mental Slavery and think all is bed and roses in the States.

Fact: you are more likely to be killed as a black man in America than anywhere else in the developed world.

omis1:
The ship has been tuned side way and that’s Russia biggest flagship,they only have 3 of this with the Moskva being d biggest lmao.
They lost one of there three cruise ships to small ukraine na this clowns wan face NATO?

Why are you spamming the thread? Are you a spammer?

Teaser4:
There’s no need to surrender, dem go keep collecting wotowoto and go start screaming war crimes as always.

This 'wotowoto' always gets to me
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blackboy:
Continue rejoicing at what is happening to Ukraine. Putin is evil and wrong for what he has done. Ukraine did not invade Russia nor had plans but just wanted to be friends with those who wont invade them. Everyone knows Russia is the only major threat to its neighbours in Europe. Germany has repented.

I pray Cameroon or Niger Repunblic or Chad does not invade Nigeria because they do not like who Nigeria wants to be close to.

Those who hate America , give them US Visa they will go with their families. I know plenty of them in US today. Always hating America but they have applied for US visa or have US visa or plannig to relocate to US.

Hating because of ISreal or their religion. Let us have an open mind. That is why Nigeria is the way it is . Continue hating each other

Comments like this is why Bob Marley cried "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery."

So people can no longer give their opinion because of Visa or religious leaning?

The person who zombified you like this will never go free.

Drenimarcus:
Bro, eggs that we normally buy at $3 is now $10, milk and co are over the roof. Those bastards are hiding the data. Inflation is probably over 20%-30%. These bastards are funding the war instead of fixing their shit back here.

It's such a pity how politicians prefer their people suffer why they happily fund wars.

tenpipsperday:
I stopped reading when I got to where they said Russia is reaping massive gain.

Dude is suffocating from numerous sanctions and looking for where he can sell at any price but nairaland urchins will believe everything as long as it portrays US as a losing side.

He is not looking for any new market. The EU and US is still buying their oil and gas.

This is not new to us that understand geopolitics. Many knew before now that Ukraine is not in charge of the conflict, otherwise, the comedian president won't say one thing today, and ask for another thing tomorrow morning. Ukraine is being decimated purposely for a greater endgame.

When your longtime ally start making mockery of your president, you know you are losing relevance. I never knew Saudi Arabia has such sense of humor until Biden came onboard and gave the House of Saud's state own tv a talking point of laughter. All this after refusing to pick his calls. They didn't try this with Trump even in all his reckless behavior. It's pathetic that the US has this mental case as the president of the world's superpower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOhcCPqc4pk

Drenimarcus:
Talk about Health insurance, government will say no money, insulin costs is so high that diabetic patients living here cant afford it, people are quitting their jobs at an exponential rate, inflation is over the roof(forget the 8.5%) , gas prices, transgender crises, social security is running out of money etc. But this government has sent $1.3Billion to Ukraine and is about to sent another $800M. No money for citizens but there is always money for war which isn't directly happening in America.

Mid-terms deh come, we go wait for una.

The inflation side shows some governments are hiding real data. A friend in the US said that groceries that he used to buy at $40 is now $100. How is that an 8.5 percent increase in inflation?

Drenimarcus:
Even the owner is, still wondering how much he was paid.

They don't push balance news, just anti-Russian news and sentiment. Lalasticlala is the worst.

railone:
I know it's a bad take but I hope He does.

When people fail to learn from history, they are bound to repeat the mistake of the past.

With or without the help of the "West", Russia in his current format is close to a revolution just like the Soviet Union and other fascism regime in the past.

This I attribute to the increase in the number of opposition voices. Those opposition will start bonding together to form a force that can't be stop.

Opening a second war threatre with Finland might be the push necessarily to hasten that.

OR

I might be wrong and the Russians enjoy being dictated to on how to live and express themselves

No second war will happen with Finland. It's just standard posturing.

railone:
Dude, I just said you should read and understand and clearly that's a hard thing for you to do.
Did you not see the part where Dutch forces that were on peacekeeping mission was attacked and overwhelmed by the Serbian? or you don't understand the concept of interest.

is an attack on Dutch forces not considered an attack on the Netherlands itself when it's not at war with the attacker?

Clearly you just like to argue for arguing sake before you neither want to understand anything just only reply.

Shalom

Nonesense again. Dutch forces acting outside the territory of Netherland doesn't fall under the protection of article 5 of NATO if they come under attack by an enemy in a crisis they're engaged in. You keep manufacturing baseless excuses. Did the Serbian attack on Dutch forces triggers the article 5? No. Why? Because it falls short of the provisions of the article and NATO charter.

NATO got involved out of pure emotions.

The only scenario where article 5 has been triggered was when the 9/11 attack happened in the US, and even that too was faulty because it wasn't the Taliban that did it, but so-called Al Qaida.

Powersurge:
I dey shake my head. "R" in USSR stands for Russia. To slap u dey hungry me.

The Union derives it existence from the existence of Russia as a republic.

CALEB1590:
This beautiful and educating thread about the Nazis should be in front page. If it does not get to front page before the close of play today, I will believe that nairaland is part of the bias journalism of the west.

Lalasticlala and most of the mods here are pro-west.

railone:
Guy dey try read and understand before you reply. I've already said something about that.

I believe I was the first one here to mentioned US help in making Russia appear big as it believe it is.

UNSC is made up of 5 permanent member state. Their membership is non-negotiable and doesn't end. One of those seats belonged to the USSR, with that association being defunct, that seat would have been vacant or the member states of the USSR would have fought each other to get the seat causing instability in Europe and central Asia.

The US chose to back Russia for the seat because out of all former Union states, Russia was the richest and easiest to economic stability.
Similar scenario played out when the PRC won the Chinese war against the ROC government and took over mainland China. China seat on UNSC was occupied by Taiwan until the US chose to side with China and Taiwan was dropped as permanent member.

There is and never was a successor to the USSR. The US acknowledged Russia to bring stability to the region.

Why did NATO counter Putin when he brought up that "agreement argument" with the fact that NATO never had such agreement with Russia if Russia is as you claim "successor".

Read, it will do you good

Your argument is just plain lame.

Russia was the nation that initiated the Soviet Union. The Union was born out of the Russian revolution of 1917. It's headquarter, and sheer power was concentrated in Moscow. So it's only natural that Russia assumes it's geopolitical and international roles after the collapse of the Union. Your argument that US only supported Russia because it's economy stable at the expenses of other formal USSR member states is nonesense. The reality is that Russia was always the head and heart of the Union.

goaldynman:
Mumu!!

At this age you don't know the meaning of USSR?!

Use your brain. The 'Republic' there stands for Russia, the initiator, central and inheritor of the the Union after its collapse.

railone:
This is an extract about the Bosnian war:

"By the summer of 1995, three towns in eastern Bosnia—Srebrenica, Zepa and Gorazde—remained under control of the Bosnian government. The U.N. had declared these enclaves “safe havens” in 1993, to be disarmed and protected by international peacekeeping forces.

On July 11, 1995, however, Bosnian Serb forces advanced on Srebrenica, overwhelming a battalion of Dutch peacekeeping forces stationed there. Serbian forces subsequently separated the Bosniak civilians at Srebrenica, putting the women and girls on buses and sending them to Bosnian-held territory.

Some of the women were raped or sexually assaulted, while the men and boys who remained behind were killed immediately or bussed to mass killing sites. Estimates of Bosniaks killed by Serb forces at Srebrenica range from around 7,000 to more than 8,000.

After Bosnian Serb forces captured Zepa that same month and exploded a bomb in a crowded Sarajevo market, the international community began to respond more forcefully to the ongoing conflict and its ever-growing civilian death toll.

In August 1995, after the Serbs refused to comply with a U.N. ultimatum, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) joined efforts with Bosnian and Croatian forces for three weeks of bombing Bosnian Serb positions and a ground offensive.

With Serbia’s economy crippled by U.N. trade sanctions and its military forces under assault in Bosnia after three years of warfare, Milosevic agreed to enter negotiations that October. The U.S.-sponsored peace talks in Dayton, Ohio, in November 1995 (which included Izetbegovic, Milosevic and Croatian President Franjo Tudjman) resulted in the creation of a federalized Bosnia divided between a Croat-Bosniak federation and a Serb republic."



Pay attention to the bold sentences then maybe just maybe you'd understand when and why NATO entered the war. Like I said, they have never been the first to attack

That's not the excuse. If you should cite that as an excuse, then we can safely say that Russia did not start this attack on Ukraine, but simply reacted to Ukraine constant shelling of the Donbass region for 8 years, thus entered to defend the Donbass region.

The point here is: NATO is a military alliance, which, by its own article, is committee to the defence of it's members, not nonmembers.

The war on Bosnian does not concern it nor was it mandated by the UN to act as the UN military arm in the crisis. So your excuse holds no water.

Same holds true for Afghanistan, Libya and co.

goaldynman:
Mumu!!

At this age you don't know the meaning of USSR?!

I already gave an answer to that. Check around.

Johnnycastro18:
Dude is trying to burn bridges instead of mending things......that leader that he just rejected or avoid can influence some other leaders who are sympathetic to him, to turn against him in retaliation. This guy truly lack diplomacy, no wonder there is a war going on in his country.

What do you expect? He is a comedian driven by emotions instead of being pragmatic.

Donaluta:
Sometimes I dey wonder weather Una get shame ... A country fighting with another country ... You want to go and visit same country the country you support are fighting with.. what do you expect.. open arms to welcome you.. oga sometimes talk like human

Make everybody quarrel with your neighbor because you dey quarrel with am? You reason like person na.

seunny4lif:
USA president:
Russia invasion of Ukraine has driven up gas prices and food prices all over the world. 70% of the increase in prices in March came from the Putin Price Hike.

I’m doing everything I can to bring down prices and address the Putin Price Hike

But I thought they said Russia is not powerful.

Biden is a puppet of the deep state.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml8JsnE1VI

Mass surrender of Ukrainian servicemen

The flow is growing, the surrender of Ukrainian military personnel has become massive, 1026 Ukrainian marines have already laid down their arms and their flow is growing. New footage with prisoners of war of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was published by correspondent Sladkov. Among the surrendered 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 162 officers, 47 women, and more than 130 wounded

This is good news. Better this war ends quickly.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi_GVNAzTNo

Ukrainian Marines in Mariupol began to surrender en masse

You will never see this on BBC, CNN or Sky News.

The numbers of those surrendering are on the increase.