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Karleb:
You are not practical at all. This is the issue I have with so called spiritual people. Every concept is abstract to them.

The lady that mentioned you is a chorister and her husband an instrumentalist and she knows what she's talking about.

@OP

It's really about the people. Go where you are celebrated.

This is what I have with "church business" people. The church is not a business. A pastor is not an entrepreneur! The real church as established by Christ and developed by the apostles has been relegated to the status of house fellowship all in the name of the business of soul-winning.

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If a church doesn't have anyone who can play any instruments, let them make do with what they have. It's very simple! You've turned the church into a seed-sowing and salary paying venture. It's a shame!

Like a pastor once said, we'll keep joking and entertaining ourselves till Christ comes. We're mere jokers in a building thinking we're praising God.

placeofallure:
Your thinking dates back to several years back back back.

A church, believe it or not, needs funds to run smoothly. There are staff members to be paid - security, cleaners, secretary, admin staff, etc. Bills to be paid - electricity, diesel for gen, data, fuel for vehicles, repairs and maintenance etc. All of these do not run on water. Some churches even engage in special projects - evangelism, community works etc. Running of a church isn't yam and beans okay?

Then as for instrumentalists getting paid, it depends. If your church has members that can use the guitar well, play drums, gangan, keyboard and sax you're fine but churches with no members who can do this have to hire musicians to do them. Now the musicians who are hired will collect money because that is their own daily occupation that they earn a living from. Na you teach them how to play? Some of them invested in schools and materials to learn all the stuff.

In my church, we have about 6 instrumentalists. My husband is the only one among them that does it for free. He can handle all the other instruments apart from his guitar, but he can only do one at a time.
Apart from that, it's a matter of personal conviction if you wanna do it for free or not. Choristers don't get paid but we have benefits or privileges that we enjoy so please stop thinking like an ancient man biko.

You see what I'm saying? You don't even understand what a church is. The church is the people that meet to worship God, not the building. God has no business with the building but the hearts of the people.

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If your pastor has all these things to make life easy for the people that gather at the place, he should be able to take care of them. Anyone who has the means to help out can do so without being coerced or forced to do it.

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The only concern of God is the people, not the church buses, or community service. Once the holy spirit takes over, everyone will see it as their duty to do these things. The pastor will call for it and everyone will turn up for it because their spirits align with it.

Pandev:
some people reason like little kids. Did the owner of this forum create it to satisfy you? He created it to make money you dumb fellow. This boy called kingog has always been forming woke on this platform and broke-shame people, that shows he's immature. Seun may not even be a fan of BBN but nigga has got make his money.
It's true that seun should upgrade this forum, but the op is talking trash, bullshit. Na im type go stay up all night to watch the useless BBN

After posting his nonsense topics on Nigerian artists and people started crawling towards him, he's been feeling funky, like he's the real OG. Hence , he thinks he can just post anything and everybody would buy into it. The guy is a known idiot.

"Do not tell a child not to touch a hot lamp, the lamp will tell him itself"

------ An African Proverb

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Dem no dey teli person.

I made mention of the same thing in one of my comments here on NL and I was vilified for it. The Omoluabi ethos do not allow for one to support evil in the name of ethnicity.

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Osinbajo remains my preferred candidate. It's just unfortunate that he won't be on the ballot. We'll keep deceiving ourselves in this country that we want to move forward, but unless we do away with ethnic and religious sentiments when choosing our leaders, we'll keep taking 10 steps forward and 20 steps backward.

'Nuff Said.

Bro, go to God in prayer, not about your "churchlessness", but about the bad things happening to you. Ask God to break every yoke drawing you back.

WatchYourSix:
Whether Trenches or Classy, or wealthy.
....its like humans will still be humans....no discipline...always jumping from one pénis/pvssy to another like them swear for una

Are you an alien from planet Zeuk?

mycar:
we should keep this man on standby to take over from Peter Obi.
This man must be our president one day.
they systemically limited his potentials just to make him appear incompetent before us but a glimpse of him was the best time of buhari administration

Best comment yet.

CYBERSOLDIERSre:
Why should the church come looking for you?

You have like 10 churches that you attend.

You leave the church for the pastor to sweep, clean everything, bring out and set every instrument, sponsor everything needed in the church with his money, preach the word, and finally pay all the choristers and instrumentalists?

Una too wicked for this generation.

Be useful anywhere you are let everyone know you're a committed member.

Did you tell your pastor that you have a problem

Obviously you're not "useful" in anyway to the church.


Do you know that what makes you a member of any organization is your up to date payment of "DUES"?


NOW YOU KNOW, will you still call yourself a member of that church?

Ogbeni, shut your stupid self up! Is the church a cooperative that needs weekly/monthly contributions? Giving shouldn't be forced on anybody, it is at their free will.

Why should the choristers and instrumentalists be paid? Any church with paid choir is a fake church!

Baba don dey beg.

The truth has to be said: none of the guys vying for the sit is worth it. Osinbajo would have been the best man to be elected president.

Most men know that, except the simps among us.

stabilizer:
Werey wey say him be yoruba but he won't supper Tinubu. Of what use of obi to your dirty lineage.

You are a disgrace to humanity

Oloriburuku Tinubu cretin wey wan sell the bleak future weey him get for #2k Ankara and a derica of rice. Olofo!

sarrki:
I am a Christian

A well reasonably one for that matter

If anyone should not associate with anything is Islam it should be me .coz of the past

Yet I still love them as Jesus preached

Werey is claiming to be Christian. Wonders shall never end. The same way one idiot said Tinubu is a Christian by marriage. Sarrki or whatever your stupid name is, no bible-believing Christian ever displays such lunacy as you display on Nairaland.

Congratulations.

Imagine IK losing that Colombian or Venezuelan beauty, and Alex too!!!! It's an open secret that those punks are gays.

stabilizer:
Wahala tie ati idile e niyen

Oponu, Omo irankiran.

adebenson155:
there are some yorubas that don't support him..

but we will never nail him to the cross.


he is not a Saint but still miles ahead of other contestant

He's too desperate to mean well for the people. I don't trust him neither do I like him. I'd have preferred an Osinbajo who's more capable but Tinubu didn't let him win the primaries.

adebenson155:
All yoruba on this forum and beyond should watch the enemy antics in dividing us for their selfish gain..

As 2023 draw closer, a lot will be thrown at our leader Bola Ahmed tinubu so we can hate him..

it will not work ..


we are solidly behind him and on his mandate we stand..

God bless Bola Ahmed tinubu

I'm Yoruba and I don't support him.

For how long are you going to be doing this?

The Shittu guy is a lunatic.

Though she's almost 30 years his senior, she's still viable and he's a young chum!

That's his problem. He should also wish he never collected part of the $3k given to the guy.

The monster you made. When you were all dancing to the rubbish song, you never wrote this article to lambaste those supporting him, now you're complaining. Live with it.

chigoziri2403:
I think you should be more concerned about what you wrote in your first paragraph

What you said there is more alarming than the maggots infested meat you bought

I tell you bro. Your GF's mother sent you to buy foodstuff for her? Unbelievable!

Obidient4life2:
2023 all Nigerias will erupt in such joy when Obi is announced winner of presidential election.

Dream on!

Happy birthday � to her. More beautiful years to come.

Thoyesh:
Where are all those defending him?
I was particularly disappointed in those elderly yoruba actors who came out in his defence
It's sad to meet folly where you expect decorum and wisdom.
Same old men are supporting Tinubu.

Shut your ass up! No elderly Yoruba actor supported him, they only asked questions because the story wasn't adding up. There were talks that Baba Ijesha and princess were lovers...

Truthisunique2:
Living large with all his children complete

His citizens many never fit see ransom to take claim their own children

Tomorrow you believe he can cajole same people to vote apc government because dey can't think for themselves

Yes, they can't think for themselves.