₦airaland Forum

shachris:
Goodluck to you too, brother. All what i am asking is that we become one. lets throw this towel of tribalism aside and work together towards building a greater economy. At the end of the day, politics should be for the common good, and not ethnic good.

if you do not understand what I meant by good luck pls ask...what I mean is good luck on this your pattern of trying to woo votes from south east which I do not think would work...there are other ways and patterns of doing such.

shachris:
Take it or leave it, the hausa's control the economy of Nigeria. Nigerian Economy is not taxed based. So middle class do not like have a say.

Back to your question. Before the discovery of Crude oil, what was our major export commodity? Which region was its major producer?

I brought up slave trade because it brought in foreign currencies into the economy. It boosted our foreign exchange.

ok I can see where you are going..goodluck

shachris:
Good question. Before the market, igbos were the richest people in Nigeria. An instance is the late DIM ojukwu. The father of late chukwuemeka Ojukwu. Igbo were the ones that introduced trading in Oil, which formed bulk of our export, during the British rule. Igbos also engaged in Slave trades with the Europeans. Even though this trade is inhumane, it was bringing in much money at the time, much more than the other regions could affored. The truth is, we built the Nigerian economy.

your assertion that because because ojukwu was the richest Nigerian in his time and hence igbos were richest is funny and laughable...check the list of 10 richest Nigerians at time and tell me that apart from ojukwu and akwiwu which other igbo name do you see on the list? So you feel that having one person from a tribe as the richest on the country automatically means the tribe is the richest?..so a dangote being the richest in Nigeria automatically means the fulani are the richest people in Nigeria at the moment?...let me ask you which ethnic group has the highest middle class in present day Nigeria?that is where you gauge real richness and not one big billionaire surrounded by thousand or hundrednaires....as for slave trade you display ignorance there as ijaws would have one or two things to say about that...i wonder why you would even mention slave tread in economic issues of modern Nigeria...can you tell me how slave trading helped in building Nigerian economy?...you still did not tell me how igbos have not intergrated into Nigerian economy

shachris03:
Before anything, I want to say this, IF YOU ARE NOT IGBO, YOU ARE TOTALLY MISSING.

I am a passionate igboman. If i am giving the chance, over a million reincarnations, i would always choose to be an Igboman. of course you know why.

Now let me get down to the main purpose of this post.

You see, after the world war, the wronged and belligerents in Asia could have chosen to lick thier wounds and seethed in resentment. They could have chosen to do away with anything American, and their relations could have been poisoned by raw memories of bloody atrocities and brutal battles, but also centuries of historic animosities and perceived injustices. Especially for those in Japan.

But instead, they chose to make money. The Japanese set aside the two atomic bombs dropped on their civilians and embraced the U.S. Eventually China buried its cold war rhetoric and bitter recollections of wartime invasion and opened up to trade and and investment, with both US and Japan. And who is having the last laugh now?

For the past 60 years, Asia has favoured economic integration over political rivalry. This is what i suggest the igbo Nation to do. The war has come and gone. We all have counted our loses and licked our wounds. But after the war, what next? We need to regain back what we have lost. We need to open up our once flourishing economy. There was a time in Nigeria that the igbos controlled the Nigerian economy. You cannot mention economy without mentioning the igbo. But what has happened now? We have been shut off from the very same markets that we established.

How do we regain this lost glory? Through economic integration. Lets forget about what Hausa and Yoruba did to us. The truth is, we need them expand. We cannot continue to shoot at each other and expect to make advancements.

Its either we choose to forget the past and go on to build the greatest economy in the whole of Africa or we choose resentment and remain stagnant as we have been since after the war. The choice it ours.

just curios which economy has the igbos being shut off from and what do you mean igbos have not yet intergrated in Nigeria economically?what markets did igbos establish that they are no longer in control of?..we are talking economics and biz here right and not politics?

FolarinLondon:
Excuse me!!!! Did you just vomit all these assumptions or fairytale from your progenitors who wrote their own stories? No way!!! No judge has ever been allowed to judge his own case; another does Sir. Hello!!!! Are u there? Pick your pop corn, drink and follow me in this journey of dismantling Nigeria history. What makes Igbos naive than any other ethnic group in the whole wide world is their inability to ask questions from their progenitors with open mind, fairness, impartiality and of course neutrality; they just believed and followed. Having said that, Igbos are not that stupid, they know what they are doing and more often than not, their sense of reasonings are being controlled by pure tribalism; that is what it is. The evidence to support my point is all over the internet; N'digbo as a cultural and tribal group dictates where you go just like Hausa/Fulanis................You might fault my write ups as a patriotic Igbo man but the truth and facts will continue to stare you in the face

Let's quickly answer these simple questions before we proceed in our journey to demystify the mystery of Nigeria history Sir:
If you are truly honest person not tribal jingoist, pls answer these following questions and tell me what you think............

What political party formed the first political alliance with Hausas/Fulanis party from the South despite the former party leader is far more educated than the latter party leader?

Who killed other regional leaders under the pretence of Revolution? The revolution that didn't kill the same people who formed the same Igbo politicians in the same corrupt government. Who does this for crying out and loud? What we had then was Parliamentary/Westminster system of government, only two political parties formed that government; one party led by Nnamdi Azikwe and other was led Ahmadu Bello but shockingly the politicians from the part of the coup plotters in the same corrupt government were spared, not touched, exonerated as a good citizens I presumed.

Who was the acting prime minister after Tafawa Balewa was killed? Igbo

Who became the first military leader/president? Igbo

A quick one about this Igbo regime; not only did he appointed his only Igbo brothers and sister to all the sensitive positions but equally sent the coup plotters to Eastern prison, compromising the integrity of Nigeria Army. As if that was not enough, he single-handedly subjugated our existing regional system of government then; pure federalism so as to control other regions which Hausas/Fulanis/Kanuris/Yorubas/Ijaws/Edos/Ibibios/Itsekris didn't do. Why Igbos at the central of all these? No Igbo man has been fair to himself to ask questions

In second Republic, who was the Vice president? Igbo

Who came up with Unitary system of government that was inherited by Hausas/fulanis? Igbo

How come the same peole with born to rule mentality(Hausas/Fulanis) agreed to regional government in 60s? That was what was sold to you by your forefathers who wants you consistently in war with these people for their own reason

How come the same people agreed to share/rotate power between the south and the north prior to 1999 election so as to do away with the same cheap assertion southerners have tagged them with?

How come they voted for Abiola in millions despite their born to rule mentality?

How come they allowed a southerner in person OBJ to rule over them for 8yrs before you southerners bleeped them up as usual..

How come the same people allowed someone(Gowon) from middlebelt to rule over them despite the fact that they are thousands of them in the military who could occupy that position

How come the same people you despise so much allowed your brothers and sisters to be employed to their civil services until u started calling them names which led to the pogrom?

Bro, pick up neutral books and read about how Ojukwu was supported by other nations with personnel and of course ammunitions. You don't even need to go far, google it.....

And as regards the war, I have never seen anywhere in the history of humans even in the Holy bible that a fighting civilian gives his assumed enemies a clue as to how a war should/could be won.

In war, it's a war not friendly matches between Igbos and Yorubas, necessary measures are always put into war so as to win the war. You don't want to be part of a country but you want the same people you hate so much to feed you and your children for God sake. Who does this in a full war? Why can't America drop another chemical(To save the children and women) along with their atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima which instantly killed over 300,000 people including thousands of children and women. It's called War.

Holding Awolowo responsible is like holding my father responsible for the failures of your father or better still, is like Germany holding Churchill of Great Britain responsible for their woes in World war. Be real and honest with yourself;self appraisal as it were.......

Clamouring for another war is like our fathers proverb that says A child is allowed to swallow an apple seed as long as his anus is big enough for easy passage of the apple seed. Take a proper look at N'digbo map and tell me how they intend to execute their war to victorious level if there is a war today................War are not won by words of mouth and millions of ammunitions and missiles but by what you have upstairs. Germany have the same hope at Second World War but failed to consider some vital measures which I m not ready to spit out here. I don't need to be in military to know how to capture the whole Eastern region if there is any need for that. There are thousands of Awolowo today who are watching Igbos making all sort of threat just like the way Ojukwu was ranting in 60s but I pray it does not happen again cos then in 60s Yorubas people are not sensitive to Igbo utterances and political issues like today but if anything happen today, it won't be funny and I m not ruling you guys out, but hmmmmmm......................... That ll seal your fates in south west for life just like in the North. The only thing UN would be able to do is to let you have your Biafra nation, nothing more. Sudan and India is a typical example of what I m trying to say......

half education on an issue is bad

FolarinLondon:
Is predictable cos we live side by side and when you guys are about to start your tribal whining, we always try to let you know that we are only advising you guys out of love not hatred and back that up with our past relationship with Igbos girls; you wouldn't expect me to say Igbo boys when 14years journey is staring at me.....

dating someone from aa race or tribe does not necessarily denote love for that race or tribe..life is more complicated that mere canal thinking

FolarinLondon:
God forbid!!!!! How I wish you guys could peacefully live with others without war

I don't wish them any evil; was only stating the obvious bro and if you are in doubt, I ll advise you to visit Igboville and other Igbo fora to see how Hausas/Fulanis are spitting out their hatred in reaction to the utterances of Igbos

I have dated more Igbo and calaba girls than Yoruba girls

Looking at the southern part of the country, both nations-Yorubas and Igbos have collectively contributed towards the entity called Nigeria

that predictable line of dating Igbo girls...some things don't change

http://www.odogwublog.com/2015/01/nnewi-ekwusigo-pledge-support-to-apga.html I put this link because of the road construction projects in the story

FreeGlobe:
Thank you @castrogee for getting the point. Its not as if senators run their state affairs, its just to push the interest of their state forward. Just imagine what would have happened if it was Eselu that presented. the Anambra NDDC bill. Heaven would fall. lol
What do you think an Ernest Ndukwe of APGA who didn't attract a single project for Anambra as NCC chairman will do as Senator for Anambra. Go to Anambra and see structures like Nafdac, CBN etc that were attracted by Anambra people.

hehe that is if eselu can articulate that bill...anyway na Una know...just make Una no complain when his legendary thuggish way gets in the way of state development.

Cuche:
I am not giving him an outright support. Should we have a candidate with a good balance of toughness and solid education the person is good to go. I am saying my ideas of the character that should be a Senator or a Rep for the people who have suffered marginalization

if you ask me Chris uba does not foot the bill one bit..i mean this is Chris uba we are talking here..in fact if you ask me if anambra really wants progress he is one of those agada gbachili uzo that anambra has to do away with or cage

Cuche:
He has GCE Waec, he speaks well, a hard nut, he fights to the finish for what he believes in. And for those close to him he is the kind that does not mind getting his hand burnt in the process of helping his friends get something, they therefore, consider him a nice fellow. Senators usually help in recommendations for job seekers in Fed. est. Somebody like Chris will not fold his hand when his recommendation is turned back. He will threaten fire and brimestone.
Will Earnest Ndukwe do the same?
My idea of Fed rep or Sen is for real men. I said APGA should focus on State Assembly

hehe na Wao imagine people supporting Chris uba?the same Chris that orchestrated ngige's kidnap and subsequent burning of some buildings?have anambra south's interest at heart?..una get short memory ooo...be careful what you wish for

Rivers state election is going to be bloody

Abagworo:
Thats Nigeria for you. The villagers are willing to pay but Jonathan sold power distribution to Emeka Offor and Sambo who are part of the subsidy mafia. They have deliberately blocked Geometric plant in Aba from functioning as well as frustrate power supply in the Southeast. Those errors shall be corrected by Buhari insha Allah.

actually light has been constant in my hometown and environs for the past one yr

centje:
I really love owerri. The beauty of owerri lies in new owerri, developers are just erecting heavy structures there, 'am looking forward to beautification of that place. If Imo state govt. can solve the traffic issues, have a train connecting her to Ph, then alot of workers in Ph will relocate to owerri, and go by train to work.

Una dey make me laugh with this Una train talk..rich states in the country never construct rail successfully na Imo state go construct rail from RIVERS to IMO

customized13:
Aba need roads with markings and pedestrian walkways. The city is enormously endowed with individual who strife hard, the government isn't just playing its part.

British planned aba well

Abagworo:
Recent looks of Ikenegbu Girls Secondary School.

so they have removed those construction wooden pillars

FreeGlobe:
I'm very serious! If Ayogu Eze could be a Senator, why not Chris Uba? Senate is not governorship. It doesn't involve diplomacy else you wont get anything from Nigeria. People are naturally afraid of eselu nationally so its a plus. What has your Senator done for you or your district? I wouldn't want eselu anywhere near govt house but I want him to go to Senate, afterall our senators have done nothing over the past years. How can we still be contesting our oil up till now when we have senators.

hehe if you say so..but this is Chris we are talking about not Andy

FreeGlobe:
This is exactly why I want Chris Ubah to win. Assuming he was the one that brought that motion he will make sure it scales through even if it means exchanging blows. Ayogu Eze would never have stood up against him.
I don't see Victor umeh winning Ngige though, the people still love him

you really must be having a laugh with this Chris uba thing..so you are actually looking forward to him representing you at the senate?lol..i go like watch him debate

investnow2013:
Ozubulu Boys/Ihembosi rural Road awarded today by Obiano!

don't you think it is better he concentrates on finishing existing road constructions before embarking on new ones considering dwindling revenue

millionaireman:
Does it ever question our consciences: when we show hotels upon hotels in Owerri - a city which has no up-scale industry - what are the hotels used for?

ask imsu babes

FreeGlobe:
massive work is ongoing at the Enugu/osha expressway, one lane is blocked, the gutters are gigantic. IDC is the contractor.

if only fg can do their bit on the remaining part of the expressway

Scholes007:
I will vote for GEJ because he has performed not because he is in PDP .
I will vote against Ikpeazu because he was hand picked by our almighty governor who have built ultra modern project only on paper and has failed to pay salaries...i will go for ALEX OTI but will vote PDP if they field Dr Samson ogah. Simple

forget about ogah as his is forgone conclusion..meanwhile I don't think gej performed in abia as fg is responsible for dilapidated Enugu ph expressway that passes through abia,dilapidated aba ikot ekpene road,dilapidated umuahia ikot ekpene road,dilapidated arochukwu ohafia road and the dormancy of barth nnaji's aba power project.

FreeGlobe:
I dey laugh, Anambra south is for PDP. Do you know this guy?

it would be a disgrace for this man to become senator no offence

centje:
I would put it this way. Deviate from monocentrism approach to development [most states in Nigeria employ this approach] and employ polycentrism... in polycentrism concept, there is a big central node, in this case it's the state capital while smaller nodes of development are encouraged around the big nodes. The smaller ones are distributed in such a way that every 'part' of the state has such smaller nodes. Development spreads from the big node and at same time from the smaller nodes.
It shouldn't be just about building road to these nodes, but a well thought out plan[master plan or blueprint] for each of the smaller nodes, taking into consideration the peculiar resources and challenges in the smaller nodes.

From Enugu state map below, and also what is physically on ground, you will notice that a lot of towns, mostly in Udi and Nkanu, are seriously benefiting from their close proximity to Enugu. Such areas may just require planning and be left to enjoy such benefits, while towns further away from the central are chosen as the smaller nodes but evenly distributed around the state. Such approach will not only distribute development but also fast track it.

I was surprised when I visited an inner part of Awgu and I couldn't get any Telecommunication service, both glo and Etisalat, not even MTN. And there was no electricity there too. I just couldn't believe there was still such a place in Enugu.

somehow I just don't trust that gburugburu of a guy.

Hehee t a orji complaining of rigging

centje:
There's need for his administration to give attention to Education, Health and Tourism.

and rural areas

Abagworo:
What you wrote is right and many of those old structures will be knocked off and rebuilt in due time. The work on secondary schools started in late 2014 and has been very fast while the 305 primary schools started in 2012. I do not have the target number of secondary schools to be rebuilt but I have seen like 4 completed ones around Owerri.

I hope that is what he does or plans to do ie knocking down old structures to be replaced by new ones because I actually hated the former scenario..those holy ghost and ikenegbu girls rehabilitation I saw was exactly what I expected him to do earlier and to be honest I saw the reconstruction work I saw

Remarkable:
well, it did cause an uprorar seeing all the names TA has been called...

but I honestly think it still does lead to progress... it just makes progress a bit slower.

for example, no umuahian will blink an eye if Ikpeazu focuses in Aba and doesn't even tar a road in Umuahia...

I see the problem with it though, there's many areas/towns/villages that need development... but then again... don't you think that if a governor tries to touch every nook and cranny of the state and every sector of those areas.. it will appear that he has not/is not accomplishing anything, and of course, the propaganda will start as well?...

pls and pls do not fall for that if a gov spreads his development it would seems as if he is doing nothing...that is what ochendo and his likes has conditioned your mind to accept..do you travel outside abia for gods sake?In my state the only problem I have with rochas is the quality of some of his projects but to say he focused on only a part of the state?that's unthinkable for anyone to say so..what of the former gov of anambra that spread his development even more to the rural areas making those places to have equal development with others?why is one a gov of a state?is it not to develop the STATE?....if one wants to develop a particular lg why not become the lga chairman? What if a gov comes after someone focuses on aba fir eight yrs and decides to focus on abia north no matter any challenge aba or umuahia zones encounters?is that not after 16 yrs of neglect of umuahia zone?.is that what you want?...haba it does not lead to any progress unless u see a step forward and two step backwards as progress and make no mistake there is money to tackle all sectors and zones if you have a focused leadership and not one would do little job in his zone and pocket the rest of the money

Remarkable:
unfortunately that's the type of government we have had (in recent pasts) in Abia state... last I checked, I heard Ibori removed the age from his villa and despite his looting, his townsmen protected him for transforming the place.

and you may call it "brain wash" isn't that the brain though behind rotation as was birthed by nadeco and then pdp?

chop-I-chop may not be the best, but that's what we have.

how is it done in your state?

I am from Imo...that style will cause an uproar in my state..however I have observed that abia runs highly caustic and clannish politics..I don't see how abia will progress with that style of politics

Abagworo:
I thought you were in Imo last Xmass. This statement is meant to come from someone who has not visited for a while. I still maintain that what Okorocha did in 4 years is unbelievable to me as an observer.

I was at home yes but okorocha did not start out rehabilitating old structures before building new ones..the opposite was the case as is govt colledge owerri where he built a new structure but old dilapidated ones are still there which makes no sense..i expected him to rehabilitate old structures of both primary and secondary(like I see him doing in ikenegbu girls and holyghost colledges which I saw) instead of just putting those his new buildings alongside dilapidated structures that are abound.

@Remarkable so a person becomes a governor with the sole aim of developing only his zone abi?what a brainwashed thinking

Charlesdonald:
[color=#006600][/color]still on the matter

this is exactly what I expected rochas to do earlier ie rehabilitate the old structures before building new ones