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@ChinenyeN
Yes some igbo dialect are mutually unintellegible.I have a friend i grew up with in owerri who is from ohafia.Whenever we are talking we speak what you might call an igbo dialect most people that grew up in owerri would understand which is not necessarilly central igbo.However if i visit him in his home and he starts talking with his people i would be able to understand only about 40% of what they are saying.

I presently have an afikpo friend that i cannot speak igbo with because he can only speak his dialect and quite frankly he can sell me with it.

Government and structures to push equality, rather than the usual policies that further divide, will do. Equality and justice for all regardless of gender, ethnicity, religion, background, affiliations of any kind etc.

We know all these.The problem is how to enforce them.This is where i think there would be problem because some people will feel it is going to be a disadvantage to them.Eg I am sure you took jamb.Have you ever asked yourself why the cut off of someone from delta would be 220 while someone from zamfara would be 198.I would like to know how you would convice the people from zamfara that there cut off shoul be the same as delta?

@i laugh
I saw this news on the punch newspaper too so stop burying your head in the sand as always.

I personally do not believe we can force change on people. We can however, work against those mindsets by putting in place[b] structures[/b] and policies that sort of force people to re-evaluate their stance on these issues. We can do this by simply focusing on rebuilding the nation and less on what tribe the people belong to.

Please can you enlighten me on the structures and[b] especially[/b] the policies you are talking about

OK, now wait a minute--

With all due respect to those who speak any of the many dialects of Igbo, for those (like myself) who don't speak Igbo at all, I find sugabelly's instruction to be useful.  After all, we have to start somewhere.

As to dialects, the same can be said of any language.  The English I speak in the US is somewhat different from the English spoken in the UK, and, I'm sure, different from that which is spoken in Nigeria.  The French I spoke in Canada differs from the French spoken in Haiti, France, Senegal or Madagascar.  Nonetheless, there is enough commonality among them that people from those respective areas could express themselves to and be understood by each other.

Dialectical differentiation is important within a language.  It affords the language flexibility to grow and change as the need arises.  And a language must grow and change to reflect the needs of the people who use it to properly communicate with others who speak it.  

So, rather than deride each others' dialects, why not embrace them?  That way, nobody is left out and everybody learns something!

Now--let's get back to those lessons!

That is the reason why central igbo is emphasized.This particular type is understood by everyone that can speak igbo no matter the dialect.There is a standard english eventhough the way an english man speaks english is different from the way an american speaks it.

@Sugabelly
There is a reason that igbo izugbe is being used to teach in schools.Igbo has so many different dialects even within the same state.A typical orlu person that can only speak the orlu dialect of igbo might not be able to understand the mbaise person when he speaks his dialect even though they are from the same state.

Everyone is proud of his dialect but because of cohesion igbo izugbe is used to teach in school because every igbo person would be able to understand it a little no matter the dialect the person speaks.

I say this because even if drrinoelli learns your own dialect of igbo he/she will not be able to communicate with an ohafia person that only speaks his dialect.

Lol. . . I have up to this minute not said the country is moving forward, no, it is clear as day that we have yet to move one step forward. What happens is we continue to see a few pockets of change here and here, as has always been the case but overall, the country has yet to move forward. Someone would come in here to argue that we now have cell phones and internet and that is change. Another will come in to say that he is now able to drive on good road to and fro work and that is the way he chooses to measure change. But overall, when you measure and compare the little change with the vast amount of decay that still continues, in the same period, you realize that we have not actually moved an inch forward in any area.

Look, if you want to say that we have fundamental issues such as tribalism and the lot to deal with – I hate to break to you, that is the mentality that is killing us now. We have more people stuck thinking that we cannot fix things until we appease them and their tribal issues --- It is not going to work out in the end if we all continue to wait for that. We cannot continue to stall our own future just because we have issues we are not willing to overlook in the meantime to see that we all move forward from where we continue to exist. This is just ridiculous at this point.

These men are already preparing to continue this trend in government in 2011. We already have signs of them organizing to come back in 2011 to continue the same. Can’t you see that we are doing our own selves if we continue to dwell on these stupid things?? And some wonder why people completely abandon the country so they can furge ahead in their own lives and in their newly adopted countries.

Anywho, I believe we can change things but only if "WE, the people" are ready to see change.

Okay kobojunkie how do you think this mindset can be changed? I am all ears .

@ode remo
Yorubas cannot seperate from nigeria because majority are simply not interested in it.

Tpia ra nsi a gba ya ncha na-isi

@Aloy Emeka

Asha=Canary bird(those very small yellow birds) in igbo

taureg no be volkswagen?

There is no one Igbo that is "correct". If you know anything about Igbo you should know this. I am NOT miseducating her. Everyone speaks their own dialect. I[b] personally do [/b] not like the dialects of Igbo that say Mmiri. I prefer to say Mmili. And as many other Nairalanders will have you know, there are millions of Igbo people that say mmili and je and ga as opposed to mmiri and jere and gara. AND the pronunciation is NOT wrong

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This statement was uncalled for . Maybe you should have said only that you prefer your dialect.It is this kind of statement that Chinua Achebe warned against when he did Ahiajoku lecture in owerri some days ago where he said no igbo should look down on another igbo because he or she does not speak his or her dialect.

Moderator please close this thread.Who does not know that the @poster is a northerner and even a seccessionist for that matter.Just go to the political section and you will see for your self.You people should stop replying this thread!Obviously he is doing it for sarcasm and people are falling for it.     

I have said this before and i will continue to say it
Most nigerians see nigeria as an enterprise to make money from and NOT a country to serve and build because there is no feeling of nationhood amongst its people.

Until you solve the above statement you cannot solve most problems in nigeria.

Kobojunkie so it is now that you know the country is not moving forward at all? Nigeria has fundamental issues to deal with first before meaningful progress can be made in the country.

Sadly, just as Nigerians are yet to come to terms with the hard fact that the[b] federal Government is reportedly set to spend a whooping sum of N2 billion naira in the 2009 [/b] budget to buy generators to power Government activities even while the rest of us exist in total darkness due to the criminal erratic power supply situation in Nigeria, Vanguard Newspaper of Monday 26th January 2009 came up with a shocking revelation as made by the highly influential Manufacturers Association of Nigeria that 60 million Nigerians are now proud owners of generators

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art2009012923365859

By Kemi Obasola
Published: Thursday, 29 Jan 2009
As the Lagos State House of Assembly resumes from its one month recess next Monday, measures have been put in place for the adoption of Yoruba as a second language in the conduct of its legislative business.

Already, verbatim reporters of the assembly have visited the Ogun State House of Assembly to observe how proceedings are conducted in Yoruba.

In an interview, the Majority Leader of the House, Mr. Kolawole Taiwo, said Yoruba would be used as a language of communication every Thursday, while a series of workshops would be held for the lawmakers and the staff of the assembly on legislating in Yoruba.

The facilitators of the workshops, he said, would come from the University of Lagos.

Taiwo said, ”We are all of Yoruba stock, therefore, we should be proud to legislate in Yoruba. We have graduates of Yoruba in the Assembly and all resources inherent in these people will be harnessed to aid this development.”

The Assembly had resolved on July 14, 2008 to adopt the use of Yoruba Language in addition to English in the conduct of legislative business.

Its members had also called on the leadership of the House to set in motion the necessary machinery and procure other supportive equipment for its implementation.

The resolution was adopted sequel to a letter written by an Associate Professor at the University of Lagos, Dr. Ohiri Anuche, urging the house to conduct legislative business in Yoruba.

This, according to her would enhance the participation of the people at the grass roots in governance.

In adopting the resolution, the Deputy Speaker, Mrs. Funmilayo Tejuosho, had said, ”Section 97 of the Constitution empowers Legislative Houses to conduct business in English while they may adopt any other language spoken in their states in addition.”

One comment made by one of the contributors in the topic caught my eye.

@Tundes, you too, my man, are right on the money! That girl or boy is definitely not a Yoruba. I think he/she is just a mole being planted here by those stupid Biafran agitators. As for your question, I have been fighting the Ibos and other yinminrins, for years, on Nairaland forum. And I can tell you that that Seun Osewa also is another Ibo apologist!

Posted by: Chief Oluyole Ibadan , on Friday, January 30, 2009

Abeg who is this chief oluyole of ibadan?

@kemisuga
Eche m na-iwu onye yoruba? [b]Kemi[/b]suga.Aha n'ada ka aha ha .

Inukwa aruruala! Okwa maka Seun akpatala obere ego. . . owu ihe mere isi n'eji ebu ya.
Idiot dosara isi ka anu mpam. Didn't he come to naijaryders to look for attenion and they chased him out. Now the okikpo has the guts to be doing anyhow here. NL is bleeping slow anyways.

Ihe bu ihe a n'akpo i ba mmadu ime

In my secondary school which was a unity school it was the same thing.However some hawkish aba and onitsha boys always defied that

Ibadan is dirtier than anywhere i have been to. . . . .I have been to Aba and Onitsha and em places are crisp.
Aba/Onitsha to Ibadan is like comparing Zurich to Ajegunle.

Hmm if ibadan is dirtier than these two cities then it must be really a pig sty.

Both
A child btw ages 0 to 7 is capable of learning and grasping up yo 4 languages without confusing one for the other.

@sauron
Is ibadan dirter than aba or onitsha?

Seriously, those jumbo threads are killing the forum. The Yoruba thread is next.

Do it so that we will know u are not biased

Gini mere o jiri mechie thread nke ozo? O wu anya ufu?  

This one it has front page.Hmm ethnic war. _{Grab your guns everyone}

@tpacalipse

The administration was never alive.

http://www.saharareporters.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=626:woman-strips-to-protest-rape-by-policemen-pm-news&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=18

Chei ! E don be for all those policemen.

@gbola h
Honestly i believe the country is in shambles at the moment that i do not doubt anything.

I am smelling impeachement process by senate and house of rep , but am reserving my coment

Another statistic says Igbos own 73% of Abuja land - meaning the Northerners sold their allocations to other people. Now with this even more pronounced lopsidedness, should the Igbos be forced to sell their land to give an 'equitable' distribution of land? I don't think so.

Leadership of the FCT should not be a measure of how much of a capital Abuja is - Southerners seem hell bent on seeing holding the central position of power as indicative of their importance to Nigeria or the country's unity - I don't think it has worked out that way.

Ministry of Information has been filled by the Igbos more or less exclusively for a number of years - does that mean not all tribes can be information ministers? It is simply a case of 'zoning' or 'allocation'

Ofonagoro, Maduekwe, John Odey and now Dora - all Igbo

Same can be said for some other ministries e.g aviation - seems to be Yoruba dominated.

a Southerner not holding the position of minister of the FCT is not an indication that Abuja isn't the capital.

John Odey is efik