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Crime / Re: What It Means When The Court Grants Bail In The Sum Of N20m Or Any Other Amount by ashas50(m): 3:33pm On Apr 18
Why Bob was not granted Bail ? Despite he was first offender ? Abi him no get money to pay ? quote author=Reality3080 post=129494023]God bless u op

I don explain tire to some ignorant folks here, they just keep shouting money stop nonsense

They don’t even know d meaning of bail bond[/quote]
Crime / Re: What It Means When The Court Grants Bail In The Sum Of N20m Or Any Other Amount by ashas50(m): 3:30pm On Apr 18
Yinmu, let watch and see....you wey get unflat brain...uote author=jibrilELsudan post=129493961]CUBANA CHIEF PRIEST JUST PROVED THAT INDEED HE IS A CONFAM ODE

THE MUMU BOY IS BOASTING AND JUBILATING LIKE HE WAS AQUITTED BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN HIS FLAT BRAIN THAT HE WAS AQUITTED

HE EVEN TAUNTED AND BOASTED TO EFCC THAT HE IS BIGGER THAN THEM AND THEY CAN DO HIM NOTHING

BY THE TIME THEY FINISH WITH HIM HE WOULD HAVE WISHED HE PLEADED GUILTY AND WENT TO JAIL FOR 6 MONTHS

HE IS GOING TO STAND TRIAL AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK OR NEXT AND FOR THIS SHOW OF ARROGANCE FROM HIM HE WILL RECEIVE THE MAXIMUM SENTENCE

IMAGINE COMING OUT OF COURT AND BRAGGING

HOW MUCH HE THINK SEY HE GET SEF

IN HIS FLAT BRAIN HE BELIEVES HE IS BIGGER AND HAS MORE MONEY AND INFLUENCE THAN ALL THE BIG MEN AND POLITICIANS THAT THE EFCC HAS SENT TO JAIL

HE WILL LEARN THE HARD LESSON WHEN HE GOES ON TRAIL AND HIS NYASH WILL BE OPEN

HE WILL HAVE TO PROVE AND DEFEND HIS SOURCE OF WEALTH IN COURT
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Religion / Re: Law Graduate, Anyim Veronica Gets A Plot Of Land From A Company In Port Harcourt by ashas50(m): 2:56pm On Apr 18
Is it your money ? If all this was awarded to u or to your family we you typed this out right now? Answer this..
Eagle360:
Na this one dey trend now. I'm not beefing the lady but this nonsensical must stop.
Na so one Pastor reward happie boys for their negligence of duty.
Paul Eneche have tender apology and the lady in question have accepted his apology. The people now jumping on it just to chase clout or get back to the pastor is what I don't understand.
Na so we reward someone just because waking up by 4:30am to cook. We blow things out of proportion in this country.
The giver of the land just wake up? Some of his family maybe begging for such land ooo but he will not bulge. Nonsense
Religion / Re: Muslim Allows Pastor Sleep In A Mosque As Christians Refused Him Accommodation by ashas50(m): 9:12pm On Apr 14
AqualinaXYZ:
I rather pass the night in a mortuary than sleep in a terrorist camp



Your choice though...

Small thing knife don near your neck
Celebrities / Re: Fatoyinbo: Busola Dakolo Vows To Appeal Court Judgement by ashas50(m): 5:19pm On Nov 14, 2019
Better..

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Romance / Re: Women, Is a 5-6 inches long dick enough for You? by ashas50(m): 1:11pm On Aug 12, 2019
Sure, even 4 inches ,in as much he knows how to use it..
Autos / Re: I Have A Budget Of 800k To 900k, Car Gurus Which Vehicle Do You Advise I Buy? by ashas50(m): 4:23pm On Mar 04, 2019
Sorry can i see the pics and the location?
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candlewax:


I think there is this corolla for sale in Lagos for 900k. Since it's for personal use I'd advice you save more and buy toks sienna 2002. Maybe for 1.2m I don't like any Nigerian used car
Celebrities / Re: "Why Should We Vote You" Actor Uche Maduagwu Blast Banky W For Contesting by ashas50(m): 6:03pm On Nov 13, 2018
[Attention seeker again? After he said he has gotten attention already since 2017? quote author=Skepticus post=72933236] cool

Banky W and his wedding in South Africa is the least of Nigeria's problems.

This flat-headed shit-faced attention seeker should direct his questions to why we should vote APC or PDP, or succinctly put, choose between two devils of the notorious Fulani Mafia.

That Banky W head, though. It looks like a rusty hand grenade.[/quote]
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: High Paying Contract Job Or State Civil Service: Which Should I Choose? by ashas50(m): 7:10am On Nov 05, 2018
Thinking on wat to say..

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Celebrities / Re: Juliet Ibrahim X Beverly Osu:- Who Rocks It Better by ashas50(m): 5:40am On May 25, 2018
Both
Romance / Re: Open At Your Own Risk: THE SUPERNATURAL by ashas50(m): 8:29pm On May 04, 2017
What about me, greet ifa for me..
Investment / Re: MMM Nigeria Freezes Out Mavrodians by ashas50(m): 2:38pm On Jan 17, 2017
Well to my own understand, those people still need to hold cos MMM are paying bit by bit, as for me, i got my money on monday, becos have been matched since friday so i later got my money on monday 44k while my junior brother got his own money today tuesday 39k we both invest 20k last year... So its still real if u can be patient, i have notthing to worry about.

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Religion / Re: “God Will Remove Your Name From Book Of Life If You Do MMM'' - Guy Cries Out by ashas50(m): 2:01pm On Dec 01, 2016
This guy is really sick, Even mmm dont want people like u, in the scheme, foolish thomas

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Romance / Re: Is She Realy A Virgin After This Diagonosis I Carry Out On Her? by ashas50(m): 3:53pm On Nov 24, 2016
okhiai1:
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Well i can say she is not a V by 80% while she is a V by 20%m since u penetrate a bit with ur finger and notting stop u.
Career / Re: I Want To Be A Lecturer But Have Only HND, Advise Me by ashas50(m): 1:56pm On Nov 24, 2016
2kaybiel:

is PGD presentable for job or only HND and bsc?

Yes, Pgd is higher than HND. Even all bsc student that did not past very well, need to go for pgd before they can futher there masters. So HND also need pgd before u can further your masters.
Romance / Re: I Want To Go On A Date With A Random Guy Here!! by ashas50(m): 1:49pm On Nov 24, 2016
pweetixandy:
okay..I know its a little strange but, I just want to go on a date. I've not been on one in years. I don't want someone who will start asking me why, or whatever. let's just see a movie, have a good time, laugh and go our separate ways. I won't ask you about your personal life and you won't ask about mine. We go see a movie at Ozone cinemas or filmhouse, I pay for my popcorn and tickets, you pay for yours. we could fix a date this week or whenever you got time. pls, if u are below 28, go and sleep. And oh, no pictures, let's surprise each other! Just quote me if interested. Lagos peeps only!


okay, maybe we can exchange pictures. since no one wants to go on a date with someone missing an ear or smthn. lol, I can't believe the responses I've been getting. o lord!


Firstly, are u a lady? if yes, i can give it a go, but am not use to nairaland and i dont know how to send a message..
Career / Re: I Want To Be A Lecturer But Have Only HND, Advise Me by ashas50(m): 3:26pm On Nov 22, 2016
well all what you need is to enrol in PGD, in any univerity dat offer ur course of study, d maximum years is 1 to 2 years, it depend on course, then after dat, you can proceed 4 ur masters in the same university, becos the minimum qualification for a lecturer is Masters i think and u must also prove to them dat u we be running ur PHD soon.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Ruling On MMM by ashas50(m): 1:04pm On Nov 18, 2016
Well i am a Muslim, If mmm is an Harram, then fixing your money in a bank is also an Harram as well, becos mmm work in dat way. trully if u dont understand how mmm works, u might believe is not real or is an arram, unless u get the ideology of it.Mmm is seeing the 30% through crowd funding, Taye give Keny his money that is not ready to use at the moment, while keny use the money and wen taye need his money idowu give him and another person give idowu when he need it, etc

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Romance / Re: In One Word Describe The Person You Dating Now by ashas50(m): 3:52pm On Nov 17, 2016
lazy & and always depend on me...
Business / Re: Is MMM A Type Of Personal Banking Or A Lurking Disaster? See Interesting Detail by ashas50(m): 3:27pm On Nov 17, 2016
zpakln:

Is MMM a Type of Personal Banking, Ponzi Scheme or a Lurking Disaster? See Interesting Answers

The MMM investment scheme has generated a lot of controversies in recent times as argument for and against it soar among Nigerians. These are cogent questions about the scheme which have been answered.



Any investment that offers 30% returns on investment monthly(360% annually) is too good to be true, especially when the best returns from the banks is 5 – 15% annually. The traditional banks have to always pay staff salaries, offset all staff bonuses, pay rents, and always build new branch outlet. A virtual bank(one without brick offices) will not need to pay any of the above, and can invariably return higher margin on investment. But can this justify 360% return annually?
 
Putting this in perspective, an N500,000 investment in an MMM in January will become N1,800,000.00(profit N1.3 million ) by January of next year. Compared to a traditional bank investment with a maximum of N575,000.00(profit N75,000) if lucky. The two returns are like a race between a snail and a horse. Now we should not be surprised at so many Nigerians believing strongly in the MMM doctrines and willing to herald it to the gates of IDP camps.
 

What is MMM, and is this type of investment sustainable. Where are the returns coming from? Or are the founders of MMM in Nigeria printing their own monies?

 
According to Wikimedia, MMM was established in 1989 by Sergei Mavrodi, his brother Vyacheslav Mavrodi, and Olga Melnikova. The name of the company was taken from the first letters of the three founders’ surnames. Initially, the company imported computers and office equipment. In January 1992, tax police accused MMM of tax evasion, leading to the collapse of MMM-bank, and causing the company to have difficulty obtaining financing to support its operations.
 
MMM created its successful Ponzi scheme in 1994. The company started attracting money from private investors, promising annual returns of up to one thousand percent. It is unclear whether a Ponzi scheme was Mavrodi’s initial intention, inasmuch as such extravagant returns might have been possible during the Russian hyperinflation in such commerce as import-export.
 
MMM grew rapidly. In February 1994, the company reported dividends of 1,000% and started an aggressive TV ad campaign. An important factor in the scheme’s success was word of mouth, but most of the company’s success came from its extremely aggressive ad campaign.
 
At its peak the company was taking in more than 100 billion rubles (about 50 million USD) each day from the sale of its shares to the public. Thus, the cash flow turnover at the MMM central office in Moscow was so high that it could not be estimated. The management started to count money in roomfuls (1 roomful of money, 2 roomfuls of money, etc.
 
Regular publication in the media of the rising MMM share price led President Boris Yeltsin to issue a decree in June 1994 prohibiting financial institutions from publicising their expected income.
 
The success of MMM in attracting investors led to the creation of other similar companies, including Tibet, Chara, Khoper-Invest, Selenga, Telemarket, and Germes. All characterised by extremely high promised rates of return. One company promised annual returns of 30,000%.
 
On July 22, 1994, the police closed the offices of MMM for tax evasion. Everyone lost money. In January 2016 the Chinese government banned MMM on the grounds that it is a pyramid scheme, (Ponzi scheme), and it is not registered in the country (and as a fraudulent scheme cannot be registered).

Is MMM a Ponzi Scheme?

 
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organisation, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.
 
Typically, well-above-average returns are promised on the original investment and vague verbal constructions such as “high-yield investment programs”, or “offshore investment” might be used. The promoter sells shares to investors by taking advantage of a lack of investor knowledge or competence or using claims of a proprietary investment strategy which MUST BE kept secret to ensure a competitive edge.
 
Initially, the promoter will pay out high returns to attract more investors and to lure current investors into putting in additional money. Other investors begin to participate, leading to a cascade effect. The “return” to the initial investors is paid out of the investments of new entrants, rather than solely from profits.
 
Often the high returns encourage investors to leave their money in the scheme, with the result that the promoter does not have to pay out very much to investors; he simply has to send them statements showing how much they have earned. This maintains the deception that the scheme is an investment with high returns.
 

Where is MMM Getting All The Money From

 
From the 1977 ‘Seven laws of Money’ by Mike Phillips. Mike, a Bank of America banker –
 
Law 6 – “You can never really receive money as a gift. Money is either borrowed or lent or possibly invested. It is never given or received without those concepts implicit in it. Giving money requires some payment; if it’s not repaid the nightmare elements enter into it. A gift of money is really a contract; it’s really a repayable loan, and it requires performance and an accounting of performance that is satisfactory to the giver.”
 
At 30% monthly rates for everyone, it seems MMM is making money faster than money can be printed by Minting and Printing Agencies of government. It is most likely MMM pays the “return” to the initial investors from the investments of new entrants, rather than solely from profits – this is even confirmed since no physical goods are being sold.
 

Will MMM Crash?

 
When a Ponzi scheme is not stopped by the authorities like Federal Government or EFCC, it sooner or later falls apart for one of the following reasons:
 

1. The promoter vanishes, taking all the remaining investment money.
 
2. Since the scheme requires a continual stream of investments to fund higher returns, once investment slows down, the scheme collapses as the promoter starts having problems paying the promised returns (the higher the returns, the greater the risk of the Ponzi scheme collapsing). Such liquidity crises often trigger panics, as more people start asking for their money, similar to a bank run.
 
3. External market forces, such as a sharp decline in the economy (for example, the Madoff investment scandal during the market downturn of 2008), cause many investors to withdraw part or all of their funds at the same time.
 
Government Crackdown

 
The operations of MMM Nigeria is under investigation, the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) confirmed on the 15th of November, 2016
 
Last week, the House of Reps ordered its committee on banking, currency, and financial crimes to investigate the activities of MMM scheme in Nigeria. It also ordered all law enforcement agencies to start arresting those promoting the MMM Ponzi scheme.
 
Central Bank of Nigeria(CBN) warned Nigerians against patronising MMM which it said was fraudulent, not regulated and not in tandem with any known business model.
 
The crash of Ponzi schemes always starts with any of government regulations or intervention or interference. The end will justify whether MMM is a wonder bank, smart investment portfolio, high-yield investment, Ponzi scheme, Pyramid Scheme or a disaster waiting to happen to many.
 
SOURCE: http://www.ngcube.com/is-mmm-a-type-of-personal-banking-ponzi-scheme-or-a-lurking-disaster-see-interesting-answers/



The funniest tin about ur story is dat u do not know how MMM works, well am not here to correct or argue with u, but MMM doesn't not have a central bank like most example u mention above, in as much each member did not panic due to fear, MMM IS ACTIVE, in as much am Providing help, surly i will get help PH=GH that is certain. in addition to that every member knws the risk, the only things dat can crash mmm, is Panicking , and we have went through that in the past, so no fear no foe. so keep writing while some plpp are making money everyday....
Family / Re: Housewife Beaten To Coma For Investing Family Savings In MMM by ashas50(m): 1:55pm On Nov 16, 2016
Haba the husband is a mumu man, becos his wife took a risk for him with 87k to get more than 120k within 30 days in MMM...well na there wala be dat, Even life we are in is a risk, the bank people believe is save is a risk, at least av been hearing dat the end of life is comming to the end soon,so i wil not be suprice if people keeping on saying MMM is a risk dat can crash at any time, My CHOICE MY MONEY..
Business / Re: Arrest MMM Promoters - House Of Reps To EFCC by ashas50(m): 1:20pm On Nov 10, 2016
The funniest tin is dat, i work for my money right? its my hard earning money, if am scam, will i come to d govenment to return my money or wat? at least every participant of mmm knows the rules and regulation of it, we have money issues dat House of Rep need to address and act on them, why mmm, at least mmm dont force anybody to join or put a pressure on new member, we join willingly, at least i swear with my life, with the help of mmm, av made my self a millionaire.i never think of becoming a millionaire so qick, so why they want to block us? i remain member till i die... May gods of Recession strike u looters called politicians.

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