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Tobigab12:
Thanks bro

What you need to do NOW is to ACT on my advice if it resonates with you.

You can save the thanks for later.

skydude:
Sir I love ur comments, it shows how smart u r though for the profit, I must confess it usually varies, my first week I lost 60k. My profit varies from 2k daily to 3k daily, so it depends, I base my salary even before seeing my profit, she was actually working in where she was paid 20k, so I priced her out, it normal that she wud be priced out to from me

Bros, business is anchored on profitability.

No profits, no business. The standard for most people is to take baby steps with a new business. Pay the borderline requirement and then increase the profits to reflect performance and output.

Recently I needed to employ drivers. This is how I negotiated;

Knowing how to drive will attract a basic salary of 30,000.

Verifiable experience will add 1.000 per year after the first five years.

Knowledge of the road network within Lagos will attract a further increment.

Basic knowledge of the mechanics of the car may attract another 5k.

Your appearance which will in the majority of cases translate into how clean the car will be will also attract a further increment.

So some will start at 30k while others will have 50k as initial salary.

However, I always leave room for the possibility of an increase in the amount from the very first month. This is because some drivers can wow you after the first one week.

If you have offered too much and his performance is far below par, you cannot reduce his salary. So always play it safe. Have an amount you wish to pay. Start below that amount and if he is good enough and shows integrity and maturity you can increase the money.

If I owned a school this would be my model too.
Start the negotiations low but make a worthwhile offer at some point that reflects the attributes you seek in a teacher.

The teachers you employ will to a very large extent determine the success of your school or otherwise. So you need to invest in them via salary and other means too.

Trainings, appearance allowances, feeding(lunch), free data, smart phones/tabs/ a conducive staff room may probably be better than an increase in salary.

And for those of you counting the number of students in a school and using it as a basis for determining how much teachers should earn.....well you are still learning. Majority of those students have not paid fees. And some will never pay. Should you threaten, they immediately leave and start the nonpaying cycle in another school. It is never as easy as it appears.

Just my thoughts.

And by the way, I have 6 close relatives owning schools of different colouration within Lagos.

skydude:
The bottom line is employers are greedy and wants to mk excessive gains.
I av a business, a lil business for that matter and I do pay sscc 30k at the end of the month bcs I understand that is the minimum wage, so am presenting not looking at the profit angle, soon wud profits starts coming in, I can hoop the salary to 50k.
I still gv my worker 200 every day for feeding

Give us more specifics.

What are you reading in?

What is profit margin?

These, among others are indices that determine pay grade.

babyfaceafrica:
Doesn't change the fact that paying workers what they are due will let them perform better on an average. Too many poor salaries in this country to intelligent graduates is wprrysome... Bills increase daily and you want the best brain to stay with 20k-25k salary.. How will he raise a family with that?.. Why do you think we have a brain drain in this country and Africa at large.... Working conditions and standard of living are poor!!!.. The best brains who see slight opportunity japa!!!

I think you worry yourself too much.

As a matter of fact I really do not spare so much time for these underpaid staff in any industry. There is a genuine reason why they get what they get. When they tire, they will seek something else. The comfort zone is a real phenomenon.

My office recently had an opening for a Field Resource Person and the offer was for 100k. I tried to get my friends wife into the job. She teaches in a school in Ogba and earns 20k. She did the interview and was selected. She turned the offer down telling me the commute from the mainland was too much. Only for me to later find out from the husband that she didn't want to leave her teaching job as she had plans to set up a crèche, and then a proper school later.

babyfaceafrica:
No business is easy, does that give school owners right to slave work their workers.. How can you pay graduate 20k-25k and you expect that teacher to perform well?.. Won't the teacher transport, pay rent, feed and take care of their family?... IF a school cannot pay graduates well, they should take nce and ond as staffs!!

School owners have to fix prices and salaries realistically. They have to provide 12 month's pay for nine months work.

And why so much emphasis on graduates. So you think NCE graduates and SSCE holders don't deserve to be well paid?

You will be amazed that some SSCE holders deserve more pay than some of your recent glorified graduates.

After my SSCE, I was engaged to teach in a Catholic school for about one year. I must say that it was a great experience. The principal of that school (my Alma mater) was an Irishman and had a knack for identifying very good graduands who would teach for one year before going off to university.

babyfaceafrica:
If a school students pay 20k.. No problem, if you pay a teacher 20k or about.. Just know that the output from those teacher will be poor. You can't be paying peanuts and expect the teacher to put in all his efforts... Doesn't work that way... Too companies pay good money and workers are top notch!!..

Unfortunately your argument is a bit skewed. You cannot always match salary with performance more especially in Nigeria. Some of the highest paying companies have a sprinkling of terrible performers who cannot be let go for strategic reasons. In some cases performance may also be judged by indices we may not wish to type out here.

And for the avoidance of doubt there are several teachers on 20k with better impartation skills than some of the teachers earning above 100k. A number of parameters could be used in deciding why one must take a teaching job.

As further buttress I will leave you with an example here. One of the foremost primary schools in this country many years ago had volunteers as teachers. Most of these volunteers were drawn from a select pool of wives of diplomats and other civil servants who had the prerequisite qualification and expertise. They never asked for too much and they did very well before the school was on an even keel.

Tobigab12:
What of Osogbo osun state.

I am impressed with your effort at getting something to do. I will therefore make a suggestion that you may wish to consider. It could probably make all the difference.

Send a well scripted cover letter to the email address and express your interest in the position but emphasize your preference for Osogbo, Osun state. Do not forget to attach an updated resume.

The worst that will happen is that they will abandon or discard the CV. They could also decide to save the CV for the future assuming they have expansion plans.

Who knows, they could also invite you for an interview or a discussion as it is now called.

Jokerman:
I taught 5 during NYSC and my pay was 5k.
The school fees was 5k for SSS and 3K for JSS

Some schools dont want to pay less but factor in a lot of things... Just have a business abd understand. I used to complain a lot too until started my own business.....

Thanks for being so truthful.

Experience will always count as the best teacher.

Hello Op, I want you to take this as seriously as you can.

Be grateful all the naysayers here. They have proven a point which is that the more critisms you receive the more viable an idea may be if implemented right.

It is typical of Nigerians and indeed all mankind to first of all criticize based on the fact that it had never been done. This is quite expected.

This is a goldmine you have in overed but since it is new it will naturally be considered impracticable with very plausible reasons.

Ignore all naysayers and push ahead, but very importantly try and enjoy the process as this is even more important than the outcome.

I assure you that a few years down the line this will be a completely new field.

Best of luck bro.

Rhymeyjohn:
You made a lot of sense. A neighborhood School with 100 students paying a school fee of 35k each pays salary of 30-35k.

But a big international school with school fees of 500k per term and population of 100 pays her staff 80-100k.
Many don't even do the maths, it's how much enters their pockets they're concerned about.

Any private school collecting school fees of 50k and below and paying Graduates above 30k which is the new minimum wage is trying.

If you know what's good for you, use those schools to gain experience then move on to bigger paying schools

Oga many thanks for your post.

There could be no better way of making this matter clearer.

All we do in this country is complain and always from a selfish standpoint.

Your post summarised everything and I hope it puts to rest the entire disaffection which people express for small private school owners.

You know finally, I subscribe to that school of thought that insists that no government or body should fix the salaries for any organisation. Let the market forces regulate the wages and you will only get the very best at this point.

Pls also take the bolded seriously.

GrandMufti:
In addition to the earlier advice, did you set it to 4g only?

No I have never tampered with the settings.

I just checked it now and it is on 4g.

Then the internet settings show LTE preferred.

Bifrost:
I completely agree with you.
But in your last paragraph, your comment; "...be grateful for these mushroom schools that give you a fighting chance to earn some experience..." is rather condescending.

If not the 'anyhowness' of our education system, these mushroom schools shouldn't even be in the first place. I've had my fair share of working with them, and trust me I never include the School in my CV. I must say I was treated well and with respect, but then...


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And I must say, although these schools make cheap and affordable private education available for the lowest earners in the society, standard is very much compromised.

The discourse gets more interesting.

My apologies of you find my preferred designation ' mushroom schools' very degrading. But Bros it is what it is. They are mushroom schools. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with us having them as they are an integral step in our evolution process.

Nigerians and indeed all human beings are quite discerning. Parents who send their ward to these schools do so because at the moment this is the best available alternative to a total lack of education.

As our society evolved, some of these schools will either evolve with society or die naturally. It's a natural phenomenon. 40 years ago in this same country those schools did not exist. Public primary schools were better than some private schools.

In the same vein, teachers who are in this type of school are there because that is where they chose to be at that time. Remember that life is about choices. You will however be bound to the consequences of your choice. So I would naturally expect that a teacher who finds his way into that kind of school will develop oneself significantly so that he can attract the kind of job that he seeks holding in mind that he again can only get what he deserves at that material point in time. That is the law.

Hello Guys!

I have a Redmi 8 (4/64) bought just last month.

Recently, there have been several complaints from my contacts that they cannot reach me at all. Initially I felt it was a network issue with one of the carrier's but it doesn't appear so as the second SIM also experiences this blackout.

However, the phone dials out in one hand.

Could be the phone hardware that is having reception problems or there is a manufacturing defect here.

Engineers and Techies in the house please help.

skydude:
Sir can u pls stop glorifying what is wrong, am trying to figure out what you meant but still not getting ur point..
If u own a school and non of ur ex staffs ain't saying any good thing abt you then check urself.
Yes I understand when I sign a contract I tend to keep to it, I don't complain abt the salary bcs I signed it bt I do av issues wt more and more work load like the school owner wants u to carry all his village problem then I begin to av a second tot.
If I can remember vividly, u started wt 15k salary and on top of that being owed, I fought against that till I was the only Staff being paid on time. Most of these schools u owe a month or two.
Though the expectations in bigger sch is high so u barely av peace of mind unlike kuruje schools if they like they understand if they like thgry don't understand nobody wud question you

I am inclined to continue this argument since your choice of language is not vile.

We set the records straight first.

I do frown at private school owners and indeed any employer who treats his staff with ignominy.
Some of the older schools with large population and decent/regular fees from students should pay well. I usually advocate that at the very least 20% of gross earnings should be used for salaries and other reward options.

The crus of the matter here lies with the perception people have about poor salaries. If a school is just starting out with minimal capital outlay, it is only natural for it to attract very low earning teachers and also give them a lot of work to do. It is these foundation staff that will contribute tho the expansion and progress of the school. If the owner is fair, he will acknowledge the contribution made by this people verbally and where possible monetarily.

Running a business is all about balancing a budget. I am aware that most schools rely 100% on school fees to pay salaries and do all else.

This makes the situation a difficult one especially if the school fees is meagre and the student numbers few.

On the whole, experience has shown that the better you appreciate your teachers and other staff the lower the turnover of staff. But you really must work on the earnings first.

And for those in the labour market, be grateful for these mushroom schools that give you a fighting chance to earn some experience as a requirement for future job applications. The day you perceive that you are being badly treated then you make your move.

Aystarz:
When somone has to go this route to defend dodgy remunerations, know for sure that he or she is no different than the teeming cruel school owners in this country, who know nothing more than to feed fat from the labour of their unfortunate employees. Your cup will be full someday.....yours and your ilks'!

You can call me whatsoever name you choose. It's your prerogative. After all we are on a faceless forum.

You will nonetheless agree that in a free enterprise economy that we elect to operate, each employee had the free choice of taking up an appointment wherever he chooses after carefully examining what is offered vis a vis what he himself is bringing to the table.

What is offensive is where you lose your pride and dignity by succumbing to undesirable working terms and conditions and then only complain without taking action. It's a matter of perception. You think you offering so much while the employer thinks you are offering much less.

If you are not able to bridge this gap, options are available which include but may not be limited to a resignation in order to seek more Clement or attractive terms.

Indeed I show my appreciation to my staff Olin a number of ways and one primary way of doing this is to ensure that I give them what I consider commensurate with their input to the success and progress of my business.

I do not run a charity house, we are set up as a business and we need to remain a business. You need to convince me beyond reasonable doubt that you deserve more before I pay more.

Remember that at the end of the day I have to balance my books. Should the business fail nobody will remember the salaries you paid then. You will just be tagged a poor manager of resources.

So, it is indeed true........me and my ilk do pay what we consider deserving to each individual while retaining a base salary which could be considered a living wage.

abelee:
Do you expect a responsible employer going through this your comment now to employ you. For your mind now, you have spoken soundly, abi? Oya clap for yourself.

I've always told myself this and anyone who cares to listen. There's no employer that owes you a cent. He/she reserves the right as an entrepreneur to set his/her own employee working terms according to how his/her business conditions favour him/her. If after going through the same terms, any employee finds it favourable and you can work with it, sign up for the job. You can decide to set up ur own school if dey e dey pain u for body. Nonsense

This is overwhelming evidence that despite the poor thinking paraded by the majority of our populace we may yet be liberated by the objectivity of a few resolute and banged brains.

This poster is either the product of a educational era that is far long, a foreign trained graduate, a private university graduate or he might just be a public university graduate whose thinking had not been marred with the self pity majority of our youths wallow in.

An offer is made, you DECIDE to take it as a result of objectively appraising your prevailing circumstances at that time. Yet you refuse to cut the your employer some slack refusing to acknowledge that he may have his own issues which make more demands on him.

Why not start even a lesson in your neighbourhood and then pay attractive salaries for just one year and then come back here and berate employers some more.

noob03saibot:
you are saying 25,000. Lol! When the teacher in that position who handles Ss2 and SS3 in my former place of work is earning 18,000. Me, I thank God I left that school. Some people are just wicked. And the b!tch that owns the school didn't pay them for December even though they worked for two weeks.

Another very ungrateful fellow here.

You joined the staff. The pay was bad even from day one....yet you still joined. No dignity whatsoever.

You used their paltry money to fund your search for something better. You also gained some experience in teaching or maybe in human interaction.

And after all said and done you did not benefit anything from working there. Not even a friendship or association.

Wow!

deltateam:
You should have called it, a military drill.

On top #40 000? Probably without accommodation.

Unfortunately, I don't have a name for it.

I am rather full of commendation.

My niece has worked there for 3 years running and she had been somewhat independent of us.

I wish more Nigerians could invest in these kinds of schools that will provide a learning platform for serious minded people to use as a stepping stone to greater heights.

On this thread I have read many posters bashing school owners, calling them all manners of names and making their efforts look inglorious. It's very sad because each post is a direct reflection of the maturity of its writer.

Most of you have never walked in the shoes of an entrepreneur before and therefore have no understanding of the fact that some of these schools are barely managing to survive.

Quit complaining, at the very best consider setting up your own school and then pay the Oil industry or banking sector standard.

Otherwise try to offer some appreciation no matter how little you perceive their efforts to be.

I just drove through Fagba Bus Stop on Iju road.

I observed that the new Secondary School being built but the Catholic Archdiocese of Lagos was nearing completion stage.

Roofing has been concluded, windows installed, and the fence is now up.

This looks like a really large school. It may likely employ over 100 teachers. Interested candidates may wish to apply. Your best approach is to inquire through the Archdiocesan educational board/committee/commission.

A visit to a nearby Catholic church may provide answers.

Good luck.

My niece works with a large schools network.

I just learnt that they are recruiting for their different Lagos campuses.

Both experienced and fresh positions in different disciplines available.

Locations; Ajah, Festac, Satellite Town, Isolo, Ikotun/Idimu, Ikorodu, Agege, Gbagada, Mushin, Oshodi.

Salary I understand is 60,000 ( 3 years experience plus).

Fresh entrants are 30,000 for non Education graduates while Certified Education degree holders get 40k.

Interested candidates should send in their CV to aspirelagos@gmail.com.

Pls note that the selection process is quite rigorous. There will be written tests and a physical interview among other appraisal methods.

Manicle:
Personally, I believe if you want to thrive in business in Nigeria with such amount of money, your concern should be more of the understanding of the market first. This will give you a hint to making the right decision.

I say this because there are several businesses you can invest in with one million naira. You'll find a lot of them on the internet. If you ask me, I'd say Real Estate, Fabrics and Agriculture stand out among them. You can have a breakdown on how to go about it as I provide tips and business plan for all of them.

But I insist you read on 17 Things to consider before starting a business in Nigeria (http://manicle..com/2020/02/17-things-to-consider-before-starting.html?m=1)
It will be of great help and will give you the wisdom to decide among several options, the business to venture into. Because, frankly speaking, it's easier to start a business than to maintain a business for more than 5years.

Statistics has shown that 90% of businesses close down in the first 5years and only 1% of the remaining 10% survive the first 10years. So, choosing wisely will go a long way to save you from loosing a lot of money to wrong business.

Best idea ever.

Minimal risk, minimal supervision matching minimal initial capital.

Get a car, hire a young O Level school leaver.

Hire a driver who knows Abuja well.

Seek a product manufactured or produced in Lagos that is not yet available in Abuja. (Many products abound.)

Introduce the products to the wider market through your well crafted speech.

Charleys:
Buy bread and go to another street and sell from the bus, or turn the bus to a mobile shop

This is one of the best pieces of advice you can get. Consider buying bread from a bakery and redistributing among retailers in your neighbourhood.

LIVINGICON:
You are trying to pass a message but to say milo is according to you "bleeding", is just another armchair fallacy. Give figures and fscts not some social media analysis.

MILO till the end.

The bolded could still hold water for me until December last year.

I have been a Milo fan for several years. Just recently I did notice that their quality(or better put taste) had declined drastically. As a matter of fact the product made me nauseous twice. This led me to experimenting with Bournvita (or the new colourful one from Cadbury and I was hooked.

Nestle should do something fast if not that brand will go the way of Pronto.

Wealthyonos:
Good day NL. I work in a vocational school that pays me 40k monthly, but the salary is not consistent. Please what kind of business can I do? Though I have interest in foodstuffs. Please I need your advice?

As inconsistent as your 40k salary may be, I assure you that it is a consistent life saver month after month.

What I think you need to do is to put down 40k and initiate a trade, supply or distribution that requires your direct management but only on a part time basis.

Since you are in the school system,you may wish to observe closely what students and teachers need and start from your own school with a view to expanding to other schools/markets.

That way, you ear regular income from your 'small' capital (which by the way is still intact) while still raining your 'inconsistent' 40k monthly.

You could build up from there. Nothing beats a multiple stream of income no matter how inconsistent.

4larrah:
Dear Nairalanders, pls come to a sister's rescue. I'm in dire need of a job, I stay in Lagos and I've tried several means but nothing is coming up.
I just graduated from uni (masscom) but it's even on credit (nysc can wait until I pay up my debts ). I wouldn't mind anything at all as long as I'm able to cater for my immediate needs and save up for my results and maybe learn a skill.
Even if it's a Labour/ daily paying, cleaning or any legit job, someone should pls come to my aid

Which part of Lagos and how can we contact you?

dmgr:
Good day to you all, am in need of ideas and suggestions on the kind of business one can venture into with a little capital,it mustn't be something big because am planning on starting it small,and it should be something that won't require much time and energy.

Keep your suggestions coming.

Perhaps you should mention the university and describe its characteristics.

What's the approximate population?

Is it a school with on campus residence or wholly off campus?

Where is the location of the university.

When you say small capital, how much do you precisely have?

Anyone selling transparent case for Redmi 8A?

Please quote me.

chaplainpro:
There are other top quality brands available:.

Edge - N2500
BYC - N2200
Don Maserati - N2400
Perry Bugatti - N2200

Are these ones also in dozen packs?

For all it's worth so far, this is going to be an interesting experience. Please update regularly.

I am following you bumber to bumper.

Lydiahandmade:
Hello nairalanders...I need a solid business Idea I can invest 150k in Lagos. I am a fashion designer I sew male senators and bedsheet. I don't have a shop. I sew at home because of that I don't earn enough income, I want to earn extra cash...so please give me an Idea of a business I can invest my 150k. Thanks in anticipation.

Smart Lydia,

I like your hunger for something extra by way of income. I also admire the fact that you harbour very little fear as regards venturing into new and unfamiliar territories.

My advice is that since you already have a serious fashion business (which I can infer from your post that it does not bring regular income) I would suggest that you add something small and yet consistent.

I have read a number of articles on business and as a side hustle I am inclined to believe from my experience that what everyone needs is a scalable business that brings in a consistent inflow, either daily, weekly or monthly. I prefer the daily though.

Choose something that does not require additional logistic costs. Something you can spend a few hours doing it every week within your own neighbourhood.

Some of the sundry businesses discussed here in the business section come to mind. Please note that for whatever you choose it will be quite demanding in the first few outings you make.

22,500.00 will give you a minimum of 5,000 a week.