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PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 10:38am On Dec 25, 2017
Timtol:
i thank GOD this is coming at d very best time to add to my understanding.
PRAISE BE HIS NAME.
Was in a program yesterday and always busy as i use to wen a man called which never disclose his country in fact never ready to say his name.
He mobbed trying to introduce zigzagly,with wisdom GOD help me around dat.
HE SAID HE IS NOT IN THE COUNTRY BUT WILL BE BACK SOON,ASKING AND LOOKING FOR A CONTRACTOR WHICH AM WORKING TOWARDS NOT WILLING TO PUT MYSELF ONLY INTO THIS...I LATER ASK WHERE D PLOT IS AND HE SAID "ABIA"
FOR ME TO TRAVEL FROM MY LOCATION TO ABIA IS TOO FAR PLUS MY PADI(STRUCTURAL ENGR) WHICH IS IN LAGOS TO BE THERE TOGETHER IS TOO FAR.
I finally ask some other questions,d man now can feel straight in telling me his name but never tell d country he his cos i don't need to ask or was wat i did wrong?
ENLIGHTEN me.
PRESENTLY PLANNING TO CALL HIM WHEN AM LESS BUSY TO IRON THINGS OUT BETTER.

kindly share your minds with your experiences in such issues.
please beware of kidnappers and 419. It has happened to a renowned builder here, he spent his money to travel by air only to discover it was a scam, thank God it was not a kidnapping issue. please ask a lot of question, let him revealed his identity and his genuine intention. You can initiate a design deal with just survey plan and let him know that the foundation may be subjected to review prior to construction after visiting the site and proper investigation is done. Ihebrooke is bases in east and he has done several design for many NLders without visiting there and some of is has executed his design successfully.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 7:47am On Dec 22, 2017
Hollasmall:
Am sure the painter is not a nairalander,he for don charge 500k under the disguise of charging per SQM.They are always afraid to post their rediculous price here cause of critiscism they will rather ask you to WhatsApp them privately.
Awon ole
why calling names for goodness sake, it is not compulsory anybody drops his charges online, neither are you compelled to consent to any charges given to you, it is a matter of choice.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 6:48pm On Dec 14, 2017
meohio7777:
GM @Aventure The builder just confirmed to me this morning that the quotations is for each land. Its a 120 x 60 land and yes 12 Courses. Do you think the Fence quotation is on a high? Please advice.
Sir, you can't expect estimate to be accurate 100%, what the guy gives you is within a negotiable range and that is why you learn from here and use the knowledge to negotiate.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 4:08pm On Dec 13, 2017
meohio7777:
Good evening Team, I got this quotation to Fence my 2 plots of lands both on different location. The sizes are both 120 X 60 each.

FENCE( 2 PLOT OF PROPERTY AT 120 X 60 Each)
BLOCK...............2500 PSC BLOCKS 9 INCH (N180)...N450,000
GRANITES.............30 TONS..................................N110,000
SHARP SAND...........30 TONS................................N70,000
SOFT SAND............30 TONS................................N95,000
CEMENTS............150 BAGS X N2600..................N390,000

COVERT BY GATE ENTERANCE
GRANITES...........10 TONS...........................N35,000
SHARP SAND.........10 TONS...........................N20,000
CEMENTS.....20 BAGS X N2600..........................N52,000
SHARP SAND 5 TONS...................................N20,000
WORKMANSHIP..........................................N250,000
IRON BENDER & PLANKS & WORKMANSHIP......15MM IRON....N187,500
TOTAL................................................N1.679,500
I want to believe your builder is targeting 12 courses of blocks and the is solid ground, based on this I give my comment: The Block qty is OK, Cement is qty is high a bit, sharp sand 70k while soft sand 90k why not go for 2 sharp sand and safe 20k, granite price is OK if the site is closer to quarry otherwise, don't expect real 30 tons, Labour is fair but should be negotiable it can still go down well, if u have good 30 tons of granite there is no need buying granite for culvert, 20 bags of cement is much for culvert may be 15, the iron bender, planks and carpentry is shrouded ask for breakdown. After this pruning you can bring the total cost down reasonably but if you are engaging a builder remember to pay him his supervision. Good luck.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy Freeze Tithe Against Poverty (TAP) Challenge: Lady Gives One Million Naira by Aventures(m): 9:01pm On Dec 12, 2017
PaChukwudi44:
The ministry is moving.I hope our pastorpreneurs wil not tell us she will not be blessed because it was not brought to church
of course she would be blessed. To every giving there is a blessing that follo
ws. Give and it shall be given unto yo
u. Remember a woman in the bible that helped so many people, when she died untimely her good deed brought about her resurrection through Apostle Peter. But what she has done is not called tithe but benevolence giving which is acceptable unto the Lord. The blessing of tithe stands on its own, as it is found in Malachi 3vs10
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 7:24pm On Nov 29, 2017
Sprumbabafather:
I was watching the whole drama from the top of a mango tree grin

An innocent person posted a question about how much and material it will take him to do a big fence.

Some suspicious characters threw in figures and and dropped phone numbers for further engagement and possible slam dunking.

Some concerned house members saw a rat and started screaming "everybody hold tight to your wallets o"

They were screaming because some basic questions are not asked and they hurried to drop names and numbers, so it seems fishy.

And the people that dropped numbers started throwing tantrums and calling names.

Jumps down from the mango tree and picks my bicycle, if you wan beat me, come to our house, our mai guard na ex army captain grin
Wow! An intelligent point of view in a hilarious way. Nice one.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 5:03pm On Nov 26, 2017
Rubbiish:
4500blocks 720k
2000blocks for pillars 360k (if u re using blocks for columns)
Excavation 40k
Bricklayer 300k
Sand 40tons 60k
Granite 20tons 50k
Cement 100 260k
Contingencies 50k

Note d prices above re subject to change depending on ur location

Water which will depend on u. borehole things or well.
Nice efforts, but I think you assumed a location. For instance your site must be by the side of quarry in other to get granite at of 20 tons at 50k or may be u mean gravel.
2000 blocks for pillars then I think the pillars must be at every 2 feet. I will rather advise OP to do a direct contacts with professional in the house and get a valuable advise before you will start a project and get stuck half way.
PropertiesRe: Construction Of 2 Storey Building At Osapa-lekki Ajah. by Aventures(op): 7:18pm On Nov 22, 2017
GREATESTPIANIST:
helo Sir, i need your help, can i get the mechanical drawings and details, structural drawings , electrical drawings , take off for the project etc , am a student and there is a course in which we are to provide all these , prepare thoroughly and study too.... of which at the end of the semester we defend it like a project........ i need your help on this sir..... thanks in anticipation of your response.
Hello young man, if I may ask what is your course of study and which school. I may not promise you ll get this your request, just 2 days ago my external hard disk got damaged and I don't know how to retrieve all my data yet.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 2:01pm On Nov 19, 2017
mufutau55:
The first guy already covered the issues.
Bush entering fees nah Mumu fees o.

Hajji M.
LOL @>mumu fees. Though it is applicable in some rare cases. For instance you buy a land directly from Land owners, and you can not easily locate the land again and you need the omo o ile to show you your land then they will involve their family surveyor and some other family members who knows in and out of their land, then they will charge you "mumu fee" then it is a must pay ooo or else you will start combing the bush yourself may God deliver you from wild animals.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 9:05am On Nov 18, 2017
mufutau55:
Please, no any kind of advertisement in this thread. Your advertisement will be removed. Thank you.

Hajji M.
I guess this guy has been warned before, and he apologized, I wonder why he is doing this again. An Architect that can keep simple rules can not give attention to details.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 8:22pm On Nov 16, 2017
meohio7777:
Actually I did the sand filled up to that level and never thought it was an issue.. So you think I should have it lowered a little? Please advice.. Thanks..
If after thorough check of your compound level and road level and it is obvious that compound water can't flow out to the road and instead the flood from the outside can flow inward, then this advice is applicable.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 2:16pm On Nov 16, 2017
[quote author=meohio7777 post=62431257][/quote]A very good observation, and timely as well. In this case I submit my own 5 cent. I want to believe that if the compound level can be excavated a little to ensure that the DPC is relatively higher than the compound final finished level, then of course there won't be a way to throw the compound water out, this will require an underground water reservoir into which the compound water will flow, this reservoir will have a submersible controlled by floating switch (when there is rain, if there is no power then ensure your Gen is on) The floating switch will be set such that when the reservoir is half full the pump will automatically start pumping. ( This a method used by most manufacturing industries in treating their effluent and waste water before discharging to the environment, though there are some other process within the reservoir as well). This idea may be cost a little, but it is better than pulling down the house oo.
Concerning the dampness just use gravitex paint half way up, if you can afford it all the way fine, finished with epoxyl to make it shine and also prevent algae growth.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 7:41am On Nov 15, 2017
spyder880:
grin grin

How work Bro?
we bless God my brother. work is on a slow lane now, but some NL team are planning to dare something serious soon, hopefully a world class.............#loading
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 8:17pm On Nov 14, 2017
raymondFirstborn:
interlock doesn't make up the 1M alone. Things like gate,fencing and some other preliminary items.
+ drawings (if client doesn't have )

Would usually inform the client when they contact me.(do you expect me to spill the beans on NL)

spiceeamiee
So 1M will do fence , gate , compound filling and interlocking. Hmmn.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Foremost Indigenous Oil & Gas Company Fresh Job Recruitment (28 Positions) by Aventures(m): 11:37am On Oct 11, 2017
trux:
Some of these guys are only interested in your details some one call me yesterday mention my full name that is is calling from Abuja NNPC
Scam Alert! Some of the posting are scam in disguise. I once saw this kind of opening on NL and I applied for a brother, after 3 days he was called by someone who mentioned his Name, the person ask him if he is really in need of the Job and he said yes. The caller said that my brother should called their HR manager and mention his name as reference, I collected the number and I dialled it on my phone that has Truecaller, only for the True caller to bring out the man's name John scammer. We called him and decided to play along, to cut the long story short it was a scam of highest order as the guy began to toast my brother to pay into an account so that he can get the Job. Well trust me I bursted him and gave him curse of his life and he hanged up immediately.
Please be warned and beware.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 7:24pm On Oct 08, 2017
Asphaltsolution:
Asphalt and concrete are popular materials used to pave roads and driveways. Roads and driveways paved with these materials can last for several years if properly maintained. Asphalt and concrete are strong, durable and perform well in the rain and cold. In terms of cost and required maintenance, both materials have advantages and disadvantages.


- Paving cost: The paving cost of the concrete road is little higher compared to asphalt paving.

- Maintenance Problem: In case the concrete road breaks, the whole concrete slab needs to be replaced.

- Safety features: In rainy season, vehicles tend to slip or slide on concrete road due to rain. Asphalt roads provide better traction and skid resistance for vehicles. A concrete pavement is noisy, can be rough and bumpy compared to an asphalt pavement.

- Economical: Asphalt is still less costly compared to concrete. Moreover, it takes less time to build a asphalt road than a concrete road (Asphalt sets faster). When rehabilitating either a concrete or an asphalt road, an asphalt overlay is fast and cost-effective to construct.

- Recyclable: Asphalt is a recyclable material. It can be used again and again by melting it.

- Easy maintenance: Repairing just a part of the asphalt road is easily possible without delaying commuters. Asphalt roads even can be relayered over the old layer.

However poorly constructed Asphalt pavements suffer too. Cons of using Asphalt include:-

- Relatively short lifespan: Needs to be resurfaced and maintained throughout the years.

- Has an oily texture that softens in heat and sunlight.

- Has rough edges.

In terms of affordability, Asphalt pavements are the most cost-effective for constructing/rehabilitating roads and driveways. A well paved asphalt surface will last long without the need for immediate maintenance. Asphalt is recyclable, meaning old and worn out sections can be milled off, reheated and re-paved all in a day!


Very informative. I have do e couple of reinforced concrete road I can confidently support your argument that reinforced RC road is costlier than asphalt. And even after RC road u can still use asphalt as a wearing course and this will make your RC road to last very Long. For Instance all the long bridges repair recently on Lagos-Ibadan Express way was combination of RC bridge and asphalt as a wearing course, in the process of repair Julius Berger just remove the wearing course and replace with a new asphalt.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 7:19am On Oct 06, 2017
mufutau55:
Segcymoor - is now Abbatoir - he cannot login with his old login-name.
Aventures - is here once-in-a-while but still busy.

Cc: @Abbatoir

Hajji M.
Thanks Sir, I am still much here, in fact very regular on this thread at least minimum of 3 visits a day. well there is down time in the industry and there has not been something really new and exciting to post, so as usual I am back to school to learn and upgrade.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 1:38pm On Sep 16, 2017
olumide4christ:
That's what QS are called in the USA only.
Cost consultant
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 10:04am On Sep 15, 2017
snakebeat:
To be honest saying one uses brain while the other uses hand is not a good analogy & it is quite demeaning. You could have simply said one is more theoretical & a conceiver, which put one on a pedestal. As the conceiving stage is usually the most difficult. while the other is more practical & carry out the practicalities.
But they both require brain to carry out any function, whether theory or practical.
Great best analysis so far, simple, detailed without sentiment. But this day build industry you don't stay within your limits or else you may be redundant. Conceiver or designer should also try and have practical skills, while the Engineering technologist can as well learn to be a conceiver. As a structural Engineer, my experience in construction, helps me a lot in design as I can easily identify a design that is not practicable. One thing I know is that most of us find our selves in either University or Polytechnic just in a bid to go to a higher institution without knowing what we actually wanted. Some guys are in polytechnic with ability to be in University and a even a better design engineer. In my University days, the guys that migrated from Polytechnic performed excellently well all of them graduated with good grades and even in the professional field they are excelling, all because they discovered themselves while they were in Poly that they were meant to be in University and they did everything possible to be in Uni.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 9:06pm On Aug 27, 2017
johnson232:
Even if u are renting it out, human beings will still rent it, not animals. So if a building is bad for u structurally or anyone, one should rectify it as we are living in structures built by others where ever we are...
But the truth is there is absolutely nothing wrong with your building, any architect will agree with me that 6" blocks are use for buildings of your size, u even have money for using 9 inches blocks. As long as it is a bungalow, structurally your building is absolutely sound. Nothing to fear.
As regards the head beam, if u have money, it is good, it will help to reduce the roof load & also help chain your building, since your lintel wasn't a chained one. But if u don't have enough money, u can still roof, roofing for two bedroom bungalow isn't much, your building can withstand it.
In all, your building is perfectly okay, it is a bungalow & a small one.
I concur with you sir.
if you have a relatively stable ground and a small structure, if you can ensure a quality 6" blocks you are good to go. I have supervised an estate of 16 No's of 3 bedroom semidetached bungalow about 11 years ago, and all the building has been fully occupied since completion 2006, up till date there is no single structural defect. it is a notable estate if I mention the name some of us may know the estate. Though extra caution were put in place. 1. Foundation was also 6" special block filled solid with concrete, good German floor, chained lintel beam. Then we have a massive roofing.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 8:26am On Aug 09, 2017
Timtol:
Hope I have done a wrong thing by posting here?
Not sure you have done something wrong, but we have seen several 3Ds I think it will be better if have something spectacular about your design that we can learn something new from , for Instance u have done your design in such away that it could be cheaper to build and save a lot of cost, energy efficiency, roof design and materials that is new in the industry that could be cost efficient with great aesthetic. Then it will be great idea to post such here. Thanks
RomanceRe: When A Man Asks A Girl If She Ever Had Sex With Her Ex-boyfriend? by Aventures(m): 8:06am On Aug 09, 2017
The guy is having a crush on her and he is trying to do a background check on her past to know if hr can bear her past. my tot....
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 7:51pm On Aug 05, 2017
klenz77:
Hello House,
please I need urgent help here before making a decision, my builder is giving me a ridiculous estimate of reinforcement rods for my decking/slab.
I would be glad if anybody can help to calculate the total rods required ( find drawing below). I equally need to ask if Y10 are used for slabs as my drawing is detailing this. thank you
Not sure most builders will be generous enough to answer this your question, why not tell us the qty your builder quoted then you will get epic responses from experience of builders and other house members
FamilyRe: Man Divorces Wife Born With No Vagina (Photos) by Aventures(m): 9:40pm On Aug 04, 2017
fastgyal:
I looked into this woman's eyes and I saw pains and withheld tears. This is more reason why we should pay attention to the physically disabled or those with abnormalities. I advocate that these people have a say in our affairs And shouldn't be segregated or made to feel bad. I don't blame the woman, she probably was in love with the man And felt telling him her deep secrets would make him abscond, leaving her heart shattered into pieces. she probably had told her previous partners and it didn't yield anything positive. Please let's show love to people with special disabilities. physical disability doesn't mean mental ability. We are all one and people need to understand that these people didn't choose to be the way they are. things like this make them feel inferior.
if you read my story, you'd learn from me. I'd be 19 by Oct this year, would be in my 400level hopefully by that October. So my dear and to whoever is reading it. I've been using just one eye since my primary school days after I lost the other to an operation gone wrong. it hasn't deterred ME from achieving my dreams. I've got brains and a body that would drive men agog. I don't care about the Stares I receive from people. I've simply learnt to overlook my imperfections. I pray God gives her a husband who'd love her truly.
please nobody should pity me ooo. I just wrote this to inspire others.
I like you for believing in yourself, that is great.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 9:26pm On Jul 24, 2017
Timtol:
Ohh,ok.
U r wlc.
I stay humble.
Tittering!
Better still you can open a thread for your product or services and paste the link here on a condition that the product or services is related to building and real estate
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 12:55pm On Jul 24, 2017
johnson232:
House i need your advise on this...
I want to buy a land for my mom & it is urgent sale, so she won't be around physically to sign, i want to know if signing on her behalf have any implication or disadvantages. Thanks.
You can buy in your name and sign and then do a deed of gift to transfer the land to your mum, that is if you are buying it with your hone money oo and not hers
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 2:28pm On Jul 12, 2017
Chekitaut:
Visit the factory you will see the process and my point.
checkiaut x3 be warned and do the needful. thanks
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 8:21am On Jun 12, 2017
agarawu23:
Good day sirs. Its been a while.

I need critics on this proposed plan.

Its not worth creating a new thread for when we have ppl with experience here.

3 bedroom and a pent house.
120 by 30
Nice concept. My observations: You have steps leading to do dinning and hallway within. a small living room it could cause an accidents trip and fall. The kitchen is relatively small and you have a trapped space between the kitchen and the stair hall not well ventilated and poor natural light access. There is a verandah at the back of giving access to two rooms; the more openings the more security vulnerability ( good access for children to sneak out). That verandah space could be utilised to gain more space internally. Just My opinion !No bashing pls ooo. Happy New week
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 5:17pm On Jun 01, 2017
bixton:
. Based on a 3.6*3.6m space or which and what per day working rate is he supposed to deduce?
the rate for carpenter this day is BTW 3.5k to 4.5k depending on the nature of the job. Meanwhile for PVC ceiling you if you pay 4k per carpenter a day, that is generous enough. The size of the room can be up to 4m *4.2m PVC comes in a long strips so it helps to cover faster.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 8:24pm On May 31, 2017
Truthinlife:
Hello Hajj and everyone,
We just bought the PVC for ceiling but the carpenter is giving a price I believe is out of reach for 4 bedroom ensuite and little walk way. Is 150,000 not too much to install the PVC?. What should be a reasonable amount to pay.
2 carpenters will complete a room in a day perfectly. Deduce best price from that. Hope it helps.
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 6:57pm On May 22, 2017
kopell:
I Just the read all these guys story, we need to be fear to both contractor, artisans, and the owner that is dishing out the money. I do understand it's take time and effort to put those quotations together, in my opinion some stipend should be paid to whom ever put those quotes in for the job, regardless of the outcome. That is been fear in my opinion. My second point is the most disturbing one to me. When one received 3 quotations, from 3 different people that as know connections with one another, if the differences is between 100k - 300k one can make decisions on which one of them provide good services with less headache, even with little higher price then his competitor. But in most case reality what we saw in margin of million between them. Guess what, many of us will do, just dump them all start calling those old workers that build our dad, uncle, brothers, anti, homes. At the end of the day we spend less for the job, from all those quotations that we received earlier.
Boss, Greetings sir, I appreciate considerate people that practice what they preach. Sir you are very right about the fact that you get mega difference from contractor for same design, the reason is not far fetched most contractor don't do detail calculations they will just look at the building design and use previous knowledge of a job similar edit the quote and add a crazy margin in order to be on the save sides in case the quote flies by chance. I won't blame the contractors as such because so many are weary of wasted efforts, Sir do you know some contractors that are not active on NL will come here pick builder's contact and call posing to be a client, send you drawings ask question and they will collect your quote, then they will go and present to their offline client. I have personally unmasked such character. May God Help us
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 6:39am On May 22, 2017
diordaves:
This is sad. This is expected in an environment without "standard". This is what you get when there's no standard. You are experiencing first hand as a seasoned contractor what real clients​ suffer because you contractors refused to accept the notion that there should be a standard charge in the building industry. With a standard charge, clients can plan. So if any contractor quote to deliver below the the standard charge, fine and if you quote to above standard charge and the client is aware this is above the standard charge and happy to go ahead, fine. Everyone is happy and the contractor is mobilised and the kurukere to steal from the client starts. This is what is getting us mad.

Now to your professional take with this whole debate will be taken on board. Now we clients will shout to high heaven if small thing go wrong for site and will rush to Nairaland. I don't believe in customer is always right. Na lie. So if as a contractor, you've done all that is professionally expected of you and the client is taken undue advantage of your prospecting for business, come to Nairaland and shout as well. Client and contractor should respect each other.

In terms of quote, what is usually done here is the quote is free only if you get the job. So you advertise your quote fee and the customer pays upfront if you get the job, the quote fee is deducted from your
Professional charge. This eliminates freeloaders.
Sir, I think we are making a good headway with argument and the end thereof could possibly help all of us. As a matter of fact the profession saddled with the responsibility of standard charges is QS, if anyone tells you this is the standard charges may be try or false at least I know that the institute regulating QS profession in Nigeria normally publish a book for standard pricing and it is reviewed periodically as well.

But in your last paragraph, you gave a clue that I will appreciate a further clarification. Do you mean if a client request quote from for contractors he would pay each of the their charges for quote, and the one that wins the job will later be surcharged?

Thanks in anticipation.

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