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TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista

I have been watching with keen interest some comments credited to some people of bad conscience with respect to the health status of President Muhammadu Buhari. In fact, I am yet to come to terms with the fact that some living things that called themselves humans have been trying so hard to convince their evil minds that Mr. President is dead even when they are neither the Doctor that “certified” him dead nor an attendant in the mortuary that watches over his “corpse”.

The questions I beg to ask are: Who want Buhari dead? What purpose will it serve should Buhari die (God forbid)?

Who Benefits Should Anything Happen To Buhari?
I have taken my time to study the political environment and dynamics of Nigeria, and I came to conclusion that should anything happen to President Muhammadu Buhari (God forbid), there will be NO beneficiary in the real sense.

While some may argue that the Vice/Acting President Yemi Osinbajo will naturally stand to benefit due to elevation to the number 1 seat, the reality is that he will be frustrated by kinsmen and supporters of Mr. President, as lots of conspiracy theories will fly round. Under such condition, he will neither have the peace of mind to discharge his duties nor will it enjoy the support of Buhari kinsmen should he seek a term in 2019. In fact, the political environment will be polarized beyond imagination.

Of course, we all know that the demise of a President will NEVER be to the benefit of the opposition party. This is because the constitution doesn’t allow for fresh election upon the demise of a President/Governor but permits the Vice/Deputy, a member of the ruling party to succeed the boss without recourse to the opposition. This simply means neither PDP nor any opposition stand to gain should anything happen to Buhari. In addition to this, the ruling party will always placate supporters and tribesmen of the President and use sympathy vote to win 2019 (just like GEJ/PDP did in 2011).

Why then should people wish for the demise of Mr. President? How inhuman can some living things that pretend to be humans be? Should parochial/political inclination blind our sense of brotherly love and humanity?

Buhari’s State Of Health:
I will want to believe that the President is in safe condition irrespective of the wishful thinking of some group of people that doesn’t wish well to the country. If his spokespeople insist that the President is doing well, I think it is appropriate for Nigerians of good conscience to believe the report and wish safe health to Buhari.

Nobody is a custodian of life, only God determines who live and who should return to the dust. Our duty is to pray for safe health always but we must NEVER play God. In fact, there are lots of precedents to point that people who wish death to others without cause usually die before those they wish. I will refrain from citing instances because I wouldn’t want to hurt anyone, nevertheless. We should be mindful of what we wish others.

Muhammadu Buhari is first a human, husband, and father before being a President. Nobody will be happy reading/seeing death rumours/wishes of his/her relative(s). I am sure that carriers of the Buhari death rumour will go amok if another person tries it on their fathers and other relatives. We shouldn’t play politics with human life.

I was glad when the Chairman of PDP, HE Senator Ahmed Markafi during the expanded Caucus meeting yesterday prayed for safe health of President Buhari, that shows maturity of the party under his leadership.

Make no mistake, I am not a fan of the administration, and I believe that we deserve a better deal, but I will never wish for such through death of the President irrespective of what some of the President’s supporters may/might have wished others in the past. Instead, the ballot box should be the vehicle for change in government. Only those with insanity will wish otherwise.

I wish Mr. President good health and long life beyond the expiration of his Presidency.



May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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Are you saying senator Hamed Markafi was praying for safe health of president who went on vacation. Ok ,your messages are understood

well this is my message to you death is inevitable .our president is not a youth, when man is attained seventy years of age in fact he should be preparing for his death. all we are saying is that we deserve the truth

BlindAngel:
Hmmm, the death and burial of mmm
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Till today am still thanking God Almighty that i din't invested much on it.
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BUT ANYWAY

I was paid yesterday.mmm is removing the bad eggs

the topic. should be " Evil men killed a evil guy in Benue State"

I doubt if a God fearing man can join hand in killing a soul.

OlalekanMultiD:
Sorry ooh, I don't know if you reason the way I always do that is it not possible God forgive without killing or sacrificing a soul? Help pls

if God forgive without killing or sacrificing a soul, how do we appreciate him and respect his wishes for us?

Ok, let me be sincere with you, two powers are fighting to have the control of mankind the power of darkness and the power of light. The power of light (God) created men to follow his wishes and to respect him but the power of darkness want men to follow his wishes and to respect him. The darkness want men to reject light with their actions and bow down to his will. The light want mankind to reject darkness with their actions and bow to him. The men are the subject of the two powers. At the end every human being would be put to the side they belongs to according to the cleaness and darken of their soul.

Human being are not a doll ,God created us in such a way that we can determine what is best for us by thinking.God want us to show love to him and appreciate him as our creator but Satan made us to go agaist him. Satan can not compel us , he can only tempt us to agree with him but if we know the truth(God will) we would reject him.This above explannation is why the book of Ephisians 6:12 says
" we are not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers ,against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against the spirtual wickedness in high places

Now,one of important of scripture is that , it does not put us in darkness. It tell us how the things started and how it would end so that we would not say we dont kown the side that is superior between darkness (Satan or devil) and light (God)

1the scripture made us that many would be deceived and be by the side of the power of darkness than light because people love darkness over light

2Jesus would come again and take up the saints

3.Devil and his followers would be punished.
I want us to know that God did not creat hell for mankind but for the devils.If human being who was created to be holy now take upon themselves the wickedness of power of darkness ,he is no longer human but devil and would be treated as devil in hell

i use to say that ,there is no neutral persons you will either be wise or folish. You either follow the will of God or the deceivers
the Bible says in the book of Hosea 4:5 that

" my people destroy for they lack knowledge because thou hast rejected knowledge i wll also reject thee that thou shall be no priest to me seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God i will also forget thy children"

God love us that was why he killed the sinners in OT so that they would serve as scape goat to others, they would see it,fear ands turned to him. He love us that was why he sent Jesus to die for our sin for God to fogive us of some sins we commited unintensionally or those sins will sined against God alone like touching unlean animals .for sins are sins but for the sins we intensionally committed expecially against our fellow men God will surely judge us if we did not repent and forsake our sins

OlalekanMultiD:
Sorry ooh, I don't know if you reason the way I always do that is it not possible God forgive without killing or sacrificing a soul? Help pls

if God forgive without killing or sacrificing a soul, how do we appreciate him and respect his wishes for us?

Ok, let me be sincere with you, two powers are fighting to have the control of mankind the power of darkness and the power of light. The power of light (God) created men to follow his wishes and to respect him but the power of darkness want men to follow his wishes and to respect him. The darkness want men to reject light with their actions and bow down to his will. The light want mankind to reject darkness with their actions and bow to him. The men are the subject of the two powers. At the end every human being would be put to the side they belongs to according to the cleaness and darken of their soul.

Human being are not a doll ,God created us in such a way that we can determine what is best for us by thinking.God want us to show love to him and appreciate him as our creator but Satan made us to go agaist him. Satan can not compel us , he can only tempt us to agree with him but if we know the truth(God will) we would reject him.This above explannation is why the book of Ephisians 6:12 says
" we are not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers ,against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against the spirtual wickedness in high places

Now,one of important of scripture is that , it does not put us in darkness. It tell us how the things started and how it would end so that we would not say we dont kown the side that is superior between darkness (Satan or devil) and light (God)

1the scripture made us that many would be deceived and be by the side of the power of darkness than light because people love darkness over light

2Jesus would come again and take up the saints

3.Devil and his followers would be punished.
I want us to know that God did not creat hell for mankind but for the devils.If human being who was created to be holy now take upon themselves the wickedness of power of darkness ,he is no longer human but devil and would be treated as devil in hell

i use to say that ,there is no neutral persons you will either be wise or folish. You either follow the will of God or the deceivers
the Bible says in the book of Hosea 4:5 that

" my people destroy for they lack knowledge because thou hast rejected knowledge i wll also reject thee that thou shall be no priest to me seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God i will also forget thy children"

God love us that was why he killed the sinners in OT so that they would serve as scape goat to others, they would see it,fear ands turned to him. He love us that was why he sent Jesus to die for our sin for God to fogive us of some sins we commited unintensionally or those sins will sined against God alone like touching unlean animals .for sins are sins but for the sins we intensionally committed expecially against our fellow men God will surely judge us if we did not repent and forsake it

OlalekanMultiD:
Sorry ooh, I don't know if you reason the way I always do that is it not possible God forgive without killing or sacrificing a soul? Help pls

if God forgive without killing or sacrificing a sould how do we appreciate him?

ChemicalReaction:
How can be a good christian when I don't understand the bible. Too many questions to ask! I know the ten commandments were given in the old testament, I also know it still applies to present day christians, what I don't get is why there is a 'thou shalt not kill' in the commandments and our loving creator still instructed the israelites to kill their enemies. My question is, who created these enemies? Is it not God? Why would he love some children more than others? I'm confused! Over to the pastors in the house.

Bro, we can't questions God.And we can't ever fully understand him. He created us, we did not creat him. He has power over us. We did not have power over him. He tell us what we should do,we can't tell him what he should do, God was something we were nothing but he made us something. He own us, we do not own him. We belong to him.He created us for a purpose and that purpose was to know him as our creator and to do his will.

Car was manufactured by men for the purpose of carry people from one place to another. And it controlled by men. The engine's capacity, the speed, the colour everything was determined by man.If the manufacturer does not love the car anymore, he can use it to build another car and people that does not empowered him or told him how to do hit can not question him. The book of Isaiah 64:8
" But now, O Lord thou art our father, we are the clay and thou our potter, and we all are the work of your hand"

God had made every human being to kown his wishes for us but people have deviated from God orders they were doing what God dislikes that was reason God asked israelite to destroyed them. He did not just love and chose Israelite.He love them because they love him and obey his command. Abraham their father made God to love them first. Abraham was man that obeyed God when others disobeyed him.That made God to love him and his children but he does not pardon them whenever they forsook him. Remember he asked them to kill themselves for making a graven image and called it god. He allows then to be taken captive becouse of their sins. He did punish them according to the gravity of their sins. God told Israelite why he destroyed those nation and warn them of doing likewise. Read Leviticus 20:1-23 in these verses God gave us insight of what the nations he destroyed did that made him destroyed them

God owes no man no expiannation our duities is to to do his will

ValentineMary:
The rising level of ignorance is alarming. There was a thread opened about juju and I gave an explanation to how it works. I know guys who went to a native doctor and NOTHING happened. Oga most great scientist did not believe in God. Get your fact right.

goggle is your friend

ValentineMary:
Pls clap for this guy he is so wise. Oga because u see people here on Nairaland does not mean everybody is a lazy ass like you. Some of us are practicing scientist and we are not just telling u what we read from a book, we are telling u what we observe. Now tell me my wise fellow what observations have u had of God or devil?

what you observe indeed.
Walk uq to any juju man tell him to prove the efficacy of his juju to you.Walk up to witchdoctor and tell him you need the proof of satan existence or what is source of his power.Go beyond words of scinentists. even, so many great scientists believed in existence of God

Whenever i read from atheists here on nairaland, the way they boast of their reasoning as if they are wiser than theists. I can not help but to think deeply on what has happen to their sense of reasoning but i later concluded that they were been control by evil spirit.

Atheists says there is no supernatural being. No God ,no Satan. They did not believe in Bible's account but when you asked them questions regarding creation, creator, and creature ,they will use science to back their words .

Why did they believe in scientist account? Were they part of the scientist team that made reseach on some things they agued about.What if scientist were wrong or made mistake .These are part of signs to know that atheist were not wise. They think in one direction.

A wise man would know that the issue of heaven and hell is not a child play at all. You need to make thoroughly research before concluded because at the moment you die you can come back again to make correction.

What personal research have you made as an atheist apart from listening to what people say on internet forum. Truely no man have ever seen God, angel, and Satan befor but we are african ,we know the belief of our fore fathers. Juju, fetish, witches,wizards, ocultist are here expecially in Nigeria. And all those things comes from Satan. As an atheist , have you move toward these people to make a personal research? Have you walked to a satanist and ask him or her what he know about Satan.

If you have not done these and you called yourself atheist coming to the social forum to say there are no supernatural being, open your mouth to insult your creator then you are a big fool.

Pagans and all other religions are closer to the truth but Atheisim are at the last end of belief or faith

atheist can you please tell us what personal research you have made apart of reading the Bible, Quran and listen to then say or reading what people wrote on nairaland religion forum?

Reliwan001. The op explannation was cleared. The hadith clearly stated that Muhammed is in hell and that all muslims must pass though the hell before remove from it

in the hadith quoted by the writter the word "entering" and "passing" was explained

List Of Satan's Department

You take it or leave it,No matter how wise or powerful you may be, as long as you are in this world . You can only serve one of these two supernatural being know as God and Satan. Others so called supernatural beings are unders these two.

Really, many people have chose who to follow between these two supernatural beings.But Some people thought they were neutral even when they did not have such power, they thought they were acting alone whereas it please their master for them to remain like that since they have rebell against their creator which please Satan because they are going to be counted for Satan at last.

HOW TO KNOW THE SIDE YOU BELONG

the bible say in 1 John 3:8 that " He that committeh sin is of Devil: for the Devil sineth from beginnig,for this purpose the son of God was manifested,that he might destroy the works of Devil"

God has made us to know what he wants us to know. He has set the path to follow for us by making us to know what is Good and what is evil. He has urged us to follow what is good and forsake evil as it was reveal to us by his messangers in his holy book.

So by this, those that are by the side of God are those with these four characteristics

1 they led by the spirit of God.

2 they abide by his law(the law of God is to love one and others and leave in peace with one and others)

3 they hope,trust, believe, and have faith in God.

4they are Winning souls for Christ for God

we all know that to disobey or forsake the law of God is called SIN

what Devil or Satan does is to persuade people to disobey God. He makes people to reject God.And by doing that he systemmatically destroy that person

so, those that are by Satan or Devil side are those with these four characteristics too

1 those that led by evil spirit- what you said you got from your logic or reasoning that does not go in the way of God is come to you from evil spirit.
Not yours.Evil spirit has over power your spirit and deluded you to believe you are right

2 they disobey God and forsake his law,and his way

3 they loose hope, trust, beleif and faith in God

4they too win souls for Devil

WHAT SATAN DOES TO SEPARATE MEN FROM GOD

Because Satan know and have full knowledge of what God want from God made it easy for him to separate men from God by making people adhered to atleast one of thing that God has warn people to stay off or what he count to be evil for them

i here by give you some of Devil's Department.

Note: to fall in these departments means all the three characters of those that on the side of Satan as stated above had completed in you.

LIST OF SOME SATAN OR DEVIL'S DEPARTMENT

1. PAGANISM- One of Department of Satan or Devil is paganism. The law of God said " thou shall have no other gods before me.Thou shalt not make umto thee any graven image. Or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in th earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth :thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for i the Lord thy God .....

Satan had made many people disobeyed God by making a small God for them some are worshiping stone,water, cow, etc to make God jealouse and they are calling other to mislead them.
If you are a pagan ,you are on the side of satan.

2. Atheisim- this is another department of Devil. The atheists hold the belife that there is no supernatural force .They even reject Satan but that made Satan happy because they have fulfiled Satan aim of rejecting God ,they follow the devil spirit that mislead them and they will be counted for satan.

3 .Satanism- another department of Devil. I need not to say much on this as they themselves know whom they served.When ever atheist ,pagans and christian were argue , satanist alway in their surport for they know they were serving thesame master.

4.OCultsim-eg witchcraft etc be it secret cult are department of Devil they recruit people for devil and they kill people to send them to the devil the master.The law of God said "thou shall not kill".

5. Prostitution-, they have taking this as normal life without feeling guity. The law of God said "thou shalt not commit adultery or fornication"

6.Homosexual or Gay or sodomy, Lesbiansim.

7.Assassination.

8. Arm rubbrey

9. Money Ritual.

E T C

if you find youself in one of these department of Satan or Devil ,you have enter one chance be that.But the good news is that, its has not too late for you to come out of it before you land in its destination. What you need to do is to fight back your assaliant .James 4:7 said "we should resist the devil and he would run away from us"


Jesus is calling unto you for he loves you.

Jadonjack:
Free from mind bondage

Op just gut himself in real problem. What did you say his suffering for? Mind bondage. He was a free man before

SirWere:
Negroe, I am telling you that he is "serving" no one. His actions are as a result of his thoughts and nothing else. So yeah, he is free

you are wrong, he was free before, but he is in bondage now. Satan has overcome him.

HardMirror:
Ridiculous question you've got there.
Are Hindus in bondage?
Are muslims in bondage?
Are traditionalists in bondage?
The christian answer is yes.
So if you want to know what he is free from, just look at those you think are also in bondage, that is the same bondage you are in. The bondage of ignorance and suffering because of lack of wisdom.

all the people in the religions you made metioned above are far better and wiser than atheists because they were closer to the truth.The believe in supernatural power.They would laugh at your foolishness for not believe in supernatural power.

HardMirror:
The reason is not because they feel the loss. The real reason is disbelief that God can be denounced and yet these atheists live normal lives without the great fear of eternal damnation. It is just too incredible to imagine.

i asked you questions pls, answer them.

Leaving on earth without fear of eternal damnation those not mean there not be eternal damnation for sinful souls.


Wake up from slumber. Use your brain correctly

Jadonjack:
Clearly, this shows yu v bn living your whole life tru someone elses brain...

Op discovered that there is a reason he has a brain and he s making use of it

Abi, of wat use is your brain wen you depend so much on someone else's brain?

You thought the op used his brain perfectly. You disappointed me.

So, op wake up and detects he has brain. He did not know where that came from. He thinks he can use that brain to insult the God that gave him.

SirWere:
He is "serving" no one.

Damn, man, your ancestors fought for your freedom, freedom against microoraganisms, predator, malnutrition, and most recently, against slavery.

You serve no one, YOU ARE FREE.

Are you an atheist too?
Ok, tell me, free from what?

Alfamann:
If I tell you what I felt last night when an ashawo was caressing my manhood, you'll confess to Satan.

that is the kind of live you want that made you reject christ.



Santanists are wiser than atheist. I know you will never tell them the trueth.

Why is it that Satanist always in support of Atheists even when they know that atheist does not believe in existence of God and Satan?

The answer is that. The satanist know that atheists are foolish beacause they are unknowngly serving Satan. Satanist kown this, but atheist can never agree for they are foolish.


Satanists are wiser than atheists.

Alfamann:
We've heard it all before.
Just nonsense from non thinking heads.

Is that the answer to the questions?


You are happy because a soul has been won to Satan

The Op is telling people on this forum that before he used to work for God but now he is working for Satan.

Well the true is you will either serving God or serving Satan and everybody have choice to make.

The question i will like to ask op or anybody that feel he or she can asnwer it are.

Do you know that every humanbeing that are in their right sence must surely believe something. Which mean you cannot say i did not believe anything againg. For saying God does not exist is, your believed.And you are not 100% sure that God does not exist because everything around us are evidence of God existence even your been alive is an evidence of God existence. We were created male and female and both for each other. We can see that if our sence of reasoning is functioning correctly .That is to say both male and female were intentionally and purposely created. All their characteristic are nnt just happen by mistake,it was planned by someone.Pls, think beyound my explannation.

*Do you think every creations or things on the earth and sea and sky, with their characteristics happened by chance?

* What does it entails to be Christian?

*What Christienity teaches, is it good or evil ,to you as formal pastor?

*What hardsip are in christianity that make you prefer atheism to Christianity.

You did not believe in witchcraft or magic . What kind of research have you made on that since that can be done expecially in africa?

Demmzy15:
So according to you, the biblical god is love?!

O ya, Christians give this man ten verses of love in Bible. Permit me to start first

i am taking this from book of Deuteronomy 10:19

1." Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were stranger in the land of Egypt

another one from book of John 3-16

2. " for God so love the world that he gave his only beggoten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

Proudmuslim,Demmyz and co. The verse above is where you salvation lie.

3. Ok this one is coming from master himself(Jesus). Am taking it from book of Mathew 5:43-48

Ye have heard that it hath been said, thou shall love the neighour and hate thine enemy but i say unto you love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you.
That you may be the children of your father which is in heaven for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if you love them which love you,what reward have ye? Do not the publicans the same? And if you salute your brothren only, what do you more than other? Do not the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your father in heaven perfect"

Demmyz,proudmuslim and co. Any leason learn from above verse ?

Love is the centre message of Bible check this verse . I am taking it from the book of Mark 12;30-31

Jesus was asked by scribe the first of all the commandment and Jesus reply him

4." the first of all the commandment is, Hear , O Israel .The Lord our God is one Lord.
And thou shall love the lord the God with all the heart, and with all the soul and with all the mind and with all the strenght; this is the first commandment
and the SECOND is like, namely this, Thou shall love thy neighour as youself. There is no other commandment greater than these"

Demmyz, Proudmuslim and co. Do you now see Christianity is religon of love.

Muslims should not hesitate to tell us if there is or are any love verse in Quron or hadith.

My Christian brothers in th house, you are free to add the remaning Six love verses from Bible.

bashbabe2:
Stop bloody wasting your time with islam and Muslims . When you have successfully prevented your fellow christians from leaving and becoming athiest then come and preach to us.These are people that need to be preached to. They are not convinced and more confused about Christianity and You are opening irrelevant islamic thread to people who by Allah's will are on the right path. You are such a deluded and jobless somebody
There are many attributes of Allah that are better than the word love. And there is a name of Allah that means love. T
AL-WADÛD The Loving One

It shows you are a liar and an attention seeker. stop embarrassing yourself on a public forum

that all you can say,Al-WADUD is only love you can found in Quron. No verses in Quron where AL-WADUD ( THE LOVING ONE) instructs his children, sorry, slaves to love others. Pls, Muslims don't disapoint yourselves. I thought love should be the center message of Quran if its from God becaous God is loving one as you said. Or are you saying hatred full Quron. 'Kill unbeliever' if that is the case Allah is evil.

Come on you have knowlege of Quran. I trust you. Oya Muslims give us ten verses of love in Quran.

[quote author=aminusanti post=45144127][/quote]pls aminusanti, don't think i wrote those things because of my hatred to islam no no no. Islam made people believed its religion is from thesame source as Christianity and Judaism in belif but islam is pointing to different direction for salvation. That is why we need to investigate to know which one is right which one is wrong because they contradict each other, and they cant contradit if they are from thesame source. To understand the right ones.We need to study the Old Testament (Torah) the New Testament (injeel) and Quron and then used our own reasonig to determine this. Muhammed made Muslim to believe that, Bible had been distorted and corrupted and cannot be trusted but that God would protect Quron from such corruption, does God lack power to protect the Torah and Injeel which we called Bible? No,
if the early Christian cannot explaine the need for Christianity from the Scripture of Jews, why do we have to accept Jews's God as Christian God?. We knew that Israelits believed God to be the God of Israel. It was Christians which themselves were Jews that pointed to them the prophecies of their trusted prophets that God is God of Genties as well. They were able to prove all their arguments from Jews Scripture on some that would surely come to pass.

Let imagine someone came up in mecca and claim he is the last prophet of Allah, he recongnized Muhmmed and other prophets and started telling people to follow him would Muslim follow him? No the Muslim i know would even kill him if their is chance becouse Quran have completed. And their is nothing he can claim he knows in that other muslims does not know That is exactly the reason why Christian can not take Muhammed to be prophet.But it is easy for a formal pagan among pagans to tell them his Allah prophet since they know not of that religion they have no option than to believe all he tells them,they can stand against him. Mecca's pagan no little about Jews and Christian Religions and those that knows were not the tribe. Becouse they know nothing about Jews religion made them to believe Muhammed and that made them to expose the lies of Muhammed by showing how Muhammed turn his wishes and desire to revelation from Allah in hadith and how he admitted the pagans ways and called them the ways of True God . They did not see anything wrong in Muhammed doing that

In my second point, i said Muhammed his a prophet and self withness. All the miracles you said Muhammed performe were for what purposes? How many people withness them? Look ,Moses divided the sea and Israelite cross on the dry land. All the Israelite saw it. Josuah divide the river Jordan and destroyed the wall of Jericoh and all israelite saw it. Jesus did somany miracles that was so seen by all Isreal. these are the people we can compared with Muhammed and not kings like David and Solomon.

When Allah named the religion Islam does that mean all call themselves Muslim are indeed Muslim?

Why do Muslim have to believe these?

There are so many things in Islam that i as person can never believe about Muhammed. pls pardon me for not called Muhammed 'prophet'. Calling him prophet is like i am deceiving myself.There are so many things in Islam i cant believe was from God as muslim claimed but i will write some here

1 That Muhammf is a Prophet of God- No Muslims has ever convince me to believe that Muhammed is truely a God's pophet as Muslims claimed. Muslim believed Muhammed as last and seal of prophets but there is no evidence of this. Muhammed proclaimed himself to be prophet which there was no prophecy on this from past prophets, God did not call him, no genuine miracle to prove it, no withnesses of third perty to his prophethood. Unlike the past prophet called by God some see vission, some were fortold by prophecy etc

2.Muhammed a prophet and self withness of his prophethood- why was it that nobody during muhammed time sees sign to confirme the prophethood of Muhammed. He was the only one that provide evidence to surport himslf. Jesus disciples heard voice from heaven that confirmed Jesus. Jesus prophecized and it come to pass ,the jews scripture confirmed him.

Moses divided the sea by power of God, people heard the voice of God on mount Sinai, they ate mana from God,God gave them water in wilderness. Elijar asked God for the fire to consume the offering in the present of baal prophet and people and it was done without leaving their present. Muhammed have no single withness. Even when confronted to asked him three question that men have already known he take a permission to come answer later. You know the rest of story.

3 God gave quron to Muhammed- i don't buy the story of how God give Muhamme quron but thank God some hadiths had revealed how Muhammed turned his wishes and desires to revelation If God gives Quron, i expected to see original of those distorts verses of Bible in Quron, i did not expect repeatation of stories in quron not expect plagiarism in quron. I did not expect Muhammed not to understand the mission of Jesus who he succeds, i expect Muhammed to have full knowlege of atleast ten prophecies of the past prophets about him the seal of prophet. Jesus did have full knowlege of all jews prophet's prophecies about him even those that people dont see or understand, why not Muhammed the seal of all prophet, the leader of all prophet, the holiest of all prophet, a keinde gbegbon baba Fatimoh

4. Muhammed can't read or write nor have the knowleged of scripture- this is giant lie. One or two things Muslims cannot dispute is that Muhammed was not blind and dumb,we all agree tha one can learn by hearing not by reading alone. there were Jews and Christians in mecca during Muhammed time. The Muslims story also made us understand that Muhammed used to follow -Abu Talib who was merchant on caravans Apart of these he know of Kaditat's uncle Waraqua who was christian.Kadijar took Muhammed to waraqua and the story did not tell us much about Waraqua and Muhammed, the period between them before Muhammed was know by public to be prophet and what Muhammed umderstood or knew about Waraquh's religion.

5. God named Religon Islam and that Abrahm, Moses ,Jesus is Muslim - big lie from Quran. If God want to name his religion i think he would have done that to Abraham who he called out of his father's house .And if God forget he should have remember to tell Moses who he handed over the law to or the Israelite he spoke the law to or tell Aaron who he made high preist that stood in his present in tabernacle.God did not name any religion religion were named by men. The men of God as been explained themselves from time of Abrahan not by religion but by language and tribe e.g Hebrew, Jew . Christian was named by men in Antioch and Muhammed named his religion Islam. God knows his people not by religion but by their heart.

6. Isra and Mi'raj story- how can Muslim believe this story. From begining to the end of the story is full of ****
.Many more lies in Quron.

in conclussion permit me to say Hebrews God (Yahweh) that is Jews and Christian God is not Muslim God (Allah).

Pls, someone should help explaine to me ö the issue of Saraki document burnt in GTB. I thought the bank used system to store the data of there customers. Was it the GTB systems that burnt

2 i thought customers data can be get in another branch bank since customers can withdraw from any branch of his bank. Why are they not get that of Saraki in another branch?

3 the bank in which transfer was made to, did the document there burnt too? Why cant they get the fact form there?

Someone should shed more light to these

Mztarstrechy:
Director, New Media - Peoples Democratic Party, Nigeria's Opposition Political Party Deji Adeyanju
has blasted Bukola Saraki for patronizing President Buhari in the face of his ongoing CCT trial.According to him,Saraki is a coward and should be dealt with ruthlessly by President Buhari.He said Saraki is not ready to fight for himself

Source: http://www.trezzyblog.com/2016/04/pdp-director-deji-adeyanju-blasts.html

Saraki knows that all the allegation filed agains him by EFCC are true that is why he can not fight for himself

The looters should not be allowed to participate in politice or hold public office again.NASS should make that a law.

annunaki2:
Al taquiya nonsense, the thrash written in the op is so daft that it's not worth my while responding to it. Imagine using the quoran to authenticate the quoran despite all the glaring falsehood in it.

'Using quron to authenticate quron' uhmm!

It be like say Muhammed had perfected their religion for them o

Demmzy15:
Your problem is that you flex too much muscle, the lady didn't abuse anyone, she answered all with respect but because you're pained, you wrote up this garbage. A times I think you're a robot because a human being ought to possess sense especially when you claim you're educated, but no, you have nothing upstairs. Better go and join your other brothers in carrying that thing, at least you'll be useful!

pls, can you point to ill-words used by the guy? Someone provided you Quran's proof with reference and you called it abuse. It seem you never read those things in your Quran or may be you hate truth.

QueenSalewa:
Have you read the thread so far? I've already answered something like this, but I'll post again.



Apply that to your question.


Unfortunately, that's not what a Christian is. "Christian" means follower of Christ.


Stop saying Christian means "someone like Jesus", because that's not what the word means. Mohamed was as much of a Christian as Abraham was. Go figure...




Lmao. The funniest thing I've read in this thread so far.
You don't think Mohammed invented the Arabic language... Do you?

christians are followers of Jesus. Muslims are the followers of Muhammed .But who called the follower of Jesus Christsian and why did they called christian?



I was nt talked about arabic language but on the words islam and Muslim. these two words were used to deceived people. There is no were in scripture were God gave the name of religion to man kind from the beginning the world.Religion was name by men .Only Muhammed claimed that Allah named his religion islam.Why did Allah not give or reveal that name to Abraham that muslims clamed they follow his foot step?
Muhammed was a deceiver.

Besides, what Op was proven is that Muhammed contradict himself by saying he was the first muslim and went on to name some people that have gone before him muslim

QueenSalewa:
A muslim is anyone who submits to the One God, and believed in the monotheistic religion of their time. So at those times, those people were Muslims as they responded to the messenger of their time.

So yes, all those people you mentioned were muslims (the title, not the religion!)

Can we say every born again christians are muslims
if Jesus desciples are Muslims according to Quran?

Desciples was called Christian which mean people like christ because people sees the behavious and character of Jesus in them. Which Muhammed had tesified to by calling Jesus and his disciple Muslims(submission) is it wrong to say Muhammed is Chrsitian? (somene like Jesus) to claime muhammed was submmissive like Jesus.









The word "Muslim" is Muhammed cunning word to drag all the good men of scripture to his religion.He cunning the name Islam.