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Islam › Re: Being Romantic, A Sunnah by Ayomivic(m): 7:41pm On Jul 11, 2014

Op, walahi with these things wrote here, you are romantic than Muhammed. Oh! Come o are you doing all these things to your wife/wives or you are just a teacher?

Islam › Re: How To Prove To A Christian That Jesus Was A Muslim? by Ayomivic(m): 12:06pm On Jul 11, 2014

@ op,you are a big liar. Ok, let me come to your level by agree with you that Jesus is a Muslim according to the definition you people gave to the word Muslim. But, if Jesus was a Muslim we Christians are Muslims because Christian mean "people like Christ" Christians were called Christian Because their behavious is like that of Jesus Christ.

If Jesus was a Muslim, he was not a Muslim in Islam and we Christian are not a Muslim is Islam but in Christ.

The reason i said you are a big liar is that, all you wrote up there are lies. In your last statement you said " Jesus is a Muslim in Islam" contradicting the word of Muhammed. Muhammed said and i quote
" and Iam command to be the first of those who submit to Allah in Islam" Sura Companies 2: 12 .Can you see that you are a liar?

Now that you have realized your fault, you need to tell the people on this thread that you have fabricated a word against Muhammed or Allah warever as Muhammed said when he fabricates Satanic verses against Allah and close this useless thread of yours asap.

Concerning all the Bible verses you quoted above, we can only talk on that if you agree that Bible is not corrupted as Muhammed says in Quran. If you can tell us that Bible been corrupted is a fabrication also on the part of Muhammed, i will address that. If not, i think you don't need to delude us with corrupted book.

Crime › Re: "Why I Hacked My Lawyer Father To Death" – Student by Ayomivic(m): 7:49pm On Jul 09, 2014

eluquenson: All these private Christian universities are becoming something else, the other day was a covenant student posting unclad video now na Redeemer, Parents thought these schools are a save haven.

The world is changing

Do you think school should be blaimed for his action? He had become an adult, a full grown man before he entered school. He goes to school on academic purpose and he was not the only student in that school.

Sometime the parent needs to be blaimed. Money is not every things, some of parents are in pursue of their careers and pay less attention to their children.

The role of parent expecially father to children is beyond provision of money and food in the house. The parent need to monitor everything about their children when they are in adolescent age. Parent should correct their words, correct their dress, monitor the way they spend money, correct the type of friends they are moving with. They must put God first in their way of life not by committing them in the hand of pastor alone but to be their pastor themselves.
The Yoruba adage says " Ai tete peka iroko toba dagba yio mo gbebo lowo eni.

See the kind of sacrifice this boy demads from his parent.

Christianity Etc › Re: Lagos Pastor Confesses: I Belong To The Ogboni Confraternity (FULL INTERVIEW) by Ayomivic(m): 9:55pm On Jul 07, 2014

I think most of you so call christian that always believe pastors to be men of God because of their miracles and those of you that are seekhng for miracles have learnt your lesson? Don't ever believe in men or trust men, believe in God,trust God, believe in scripture and trust yourself.

For those that are attending cherubim and sheraphim or Celesial Chuch Your church is den of ogboni. It was in that church you will see a 90years old prophets, in that churches there are ordinary members and secret members. My father left Catholic some years back to join Cherubim and Seraphim but when he saw them, he returns back to Catholic, iam not saying that Catholic is perfect but i preffer Catholic to some of these protestant.

May God help us.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Do I Correct My Pastor by Ayomivic(m): 6:15pm On Jul 07, 2014*

psychologist: C dem! There av invaded m asking another thing, they are answering another...chief thread derailers. btwn let me put somethings straight here, am attending redeem church, not a ministry or what have you, and my pastor is a man that I respect so much.
I believe no one is an island of knowledge so apply to him, whenever he says that, I know what he meant, lemi use his line here so u guys can understand( Our God is infinitesimal,he's a big God,he's indiscribable) stuff like that.
Just wanna know how to draw his attention to that word before he gets transferred to another Area,xo he doesnt sound weird.
Tnx all

Your pastor might understand what he was saying. It might be you that does not understand him. Have you heard this praising song before?

Talo to o,baba ta lo ju olo, apanla to sole aiye ro, erujeje tin gbenu awon orun, O tobitobi orun o gba a, talo to o, okere niye on gbenu eniyan o talo ju o lo. Meaning
who be like you or who can be equalized to you? who is bigger or greater than you? the big arms that upheld the world, the scary one that dwelled in heaven, he is very big to the extent that heaven can not occupy him, he is very small to the extent that he lives inside of person, who is bigger than you?

Depends on your reasoning , someone can praise God by saying God is small, if he can prove it. From what you said here, he said " God is indescribable" if he keeps saying that God is big without him saying God is small, i think he has discribe God. Saying that God is small after he had said God is big is what make God indescribable.

Christianity Etc › Re: Powerful Herbalist And Ogboni Cult Ruler Gives His Life To Christ. by Ayomivic(m): 4:02pm On Jul 07, 2014

PAGAN9JA: Nonsense. He is just an Ogboni member infiltrating your church. Give him some time..

https://www.nairaland.com/1796419/lagos-pastor-confesses-belong-ogboni

Have you ever wondered why Yoruba religion is the strongest Traditional Faith in Africa?

and probably the world after Hinduism, CTRs,etc.

I have a distinct feeling that it is because of the Ogboni Brotherhood that Ifa Orisha holds a lot of power in Yorubaland and couldnt fall prey to missionary activity.

Makes me wonder why only Yoruba religion survived in the diaspora out of all other tribes during the slave trade. .

Is it just a coincidence?

Or is it something that runs much deeper. .

I was thinking of calling you to come and see what my God has done unknow to me you are here. Which one, among your nomerous gods can save like this?

I pray you will be the next person that my Lord would call out of darkness to light. In Jesus name. Amen.

Looking forward, very soon to hear your own side of testimony on how my Lord save you.

Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims Pray 5 Times A Day? by Ayomivic(m): 12:25pm On Jul 06, 2014

Pls, i want muslims to enlighten me on this story of salat.

In that story, Muslims believed that Muhammed went to Allah to collect salats, and when he was coming back, he met Moses who advised him to go back and ask Allah to reduce 50 salats given by Allah to five salats. Please , i want to ask questions concern this story.

First, this salat's story, did it happen in Muhammed's dream?

Secondly, salat is not something that can be touched but message with can be communicate to Muhammed the same way the other verses of Quran were communicated to Muhammed. Why did Muhammed needs to go to God to collect salats?

Thirdly, how did Muhammed get to Allah? On what path did he follows to God?

Fourt,did Muhammed see the face of Allah and that of Moses that advised him ?

I will appreciate if my questions is answerd.

Islam › Re: 100 Fabricated Hadiths by Ayomivic(m): 9:55am On Jul 06, 2014

95% percent of Quran's verses are fabricated.

By the way ,how did they knew that these hadith were fabricated? Did Muhammed kick against it? The above hadiths are similar to what is written in Quran. The truth is that, Quran is words of Muhammed not the words of Allah.

Sports › Re: Nigeria Vs France World Cup (0 - 2) On 30th June 2014 by Ayomivic(m): 2:24am On Jun 28, 2014

funny me,yesterday i was playing real football game on my phone and i was playing Nigeria vs france. Before i start the match, i said ' God let the outcome of this match be what would happen in match between Nigeria and france on monday'. But now iam praying that God should change it because it ended France 3 Nigeria 2

Christianity Etc › Re: "Suppose The Muslim Hell Is The Real One. Then YOU Lose." by Ayomivic(m): 7:20pm On Jan 07, 2014

babagy82: "No one comes to the father except through me" means you can only be saved if you believe in jesus teachings not that he will save you personally. That's what prophet muhammad said too,

That verse is clear enough you don't need to twist it. Jesus did not say no one can come to the father except through my word but he said no one come to the father except through him. Jesus knows that many prophets had come before him ,if what you said is what he means he would not mind saying through us prophets.

moreover, the teaching of Jesus Christ was different to that of Muhammed, Jesus preaches love, peace,tolerance, unlike Muhamed that preaches hatred and violence.

from the verse you are given ,i want you to think over the three important words there THE WAY THE TRUE AND THE LIFE
Hope you have been educated?

Career › Re: Farming Or Return To His 50k Per Month Job? by Ayomivic(m): 10:59am On Dec 19, 2013

nitrogen: Please take the job back, and prepare extensively for the farming, you need a stable income before the farm yields, try and manage both, till you are solidified, don't be surprised that you will need part of that monthly income to make that farming successful.

Although, You need to consider some factors, for that up there to work, location of the job, is it the one that will help in accessing your farm at least once in a week?, logistics too, now your monthly income will help you out here (in terms of support), lastly, your risk appetite.

In all, I advise you to take your job back jare, and work towards the farming thing, a castle can never be built in a day! Don't mind them 'table and chair' entrepreneurs.

Good advice

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do We Care About Where We Go After Here? by Ayomivic(m): 11:02am On Nov 20, 2013

OilSubsidy: We are all but a product in the eyes of God.

We did not beg him to create us neither were we there when he decided he was going to create us.

We don't know when we are going to expire(die) since he did not tell us when we were getting produced.

He already knows what direction we will take while on this earth ( we are robotic)

So why bother about where we will end up?

He is free to take his product back anytime he wants and free to do with it anything he wants. I can't bother myself about the spiritual things. I don't have the strenght for that.

To make the matter worst his book (Bible) is too complex to understand hence we have millions of sects with different intepretations. Which one are we to believe then?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do We Care About Where We Go After Here? by Ayomivic(m): 10:59am On Nov 20, 2013

OilSubsidy: We are all but a product in the eyes of God.

We did not beg him to create us neither were we there when he decided he was going to create us.

We don't know when we are going to expire(die) since he did not tell us when we were getting produced.

He already knows what direction we will take while on this earth ( we are robotic)

So why bother about where we will end up?

He is free to take his product back anytime he wants and free to do with it anything he wants. I can't bother myself about the spiritual things. I don't have the strenght for that.

To make the matter worst his book (Bible) is too complex to understand hence we have millions of sects with different intepretations. Which one are we to believe then?

yes bro, we did not beg God to creat us when he created us but he had created us not only that he makes us to know what he wants from us.

Let me ask you these questions. When you open your eyes do you see something ? When people talked do heard them ? Can you differenciate good from bad ? can you feel pain? If you can do these my friend , you are on earth. If call being on earth a calamity you are in that calamity. The only option left for all men that found thelmseves on this earth is to listen to God our creator by doing what he want us to do and shun what he wants us to shun. You cant fight God, you can angry with him, you, you cant direct him, when you said you dont care about God ,can you bear the consequence of disobeying him?
You can make heaven if you determine as man will determine to make it in life.

Forget about different sect. Pray for the gift of holy spirit and read you bible with open mind, God can lead you. He is ready to help to enter heaven if you change your way of thinking.

Christianity Etc › Re: Help Me Out Please...picture by Ayomivic(m): 3:26pm On Oct 22, 2013

So funny

Christianity Etc › Re: The Satanic Chatbox. Everybody Is Welcome by Ayomivic(m): 4:13pm On Oct 17, 2013

Alfa Seltzer: It doesn't matter if they agree. Like us, they are adversaries of the nazarene and as such thay are with us.

that is the bitter truth to atheists.

Christianity Etc › Re: Yoruba Christians, How Do You Deal With Lies And Misconceptions In Yoruba Bible? by Ayomivic(m): 9:42pm On Oct 16, 2013

Chaleeee: There is a lot of mis-interpretation in the yoruba bible. This can be attributed to the translator, late bishop Ajayi Crowther. Permit me to state that Crowther was kidnapped nd sold into slavery at a tender age of 14 and it can be assumed that his knowledge of yoruba language is limited. Or how do you explain Crowther interpreting "satan" as "esu"? Why didn't he interprete "manna" as "garri"?
In the academia, a previous work is open to upgrade and there are many intepretations of the english bible. Why hasn't any yoruba scholar offered a new interpretation of the bible in yoruba?

Back to the matter, intsilling fear in their congregation is the stock in trade of many Yoruba pastors. They are the most superstitous folks on earth.

let hear your own interpretation of satan in yoruba if Ajayi Crowder was wrong.

Christianity Etc › Re: Yoruba Christians, How Do You Deal With Lies And Misconceptions In Yoruba Bible? by Ayomivic(m): 9:22pm On Oct 16, 2013

macof: The thing that hurts be most about Yoruba Christians is the way they call Orisha Eshu Satan. In Yoruba belief, Eshu is the most loyal servant to Olodumare, Eshu never does anything contrary to wat Olodumare has sent him, not one more not one less.

The satan of the Bible is rebellious against Yahweh, he is tagged as the bringer of evil(tho Yahweh is the actual bringer of evil, satan is just a figure head).

Ajayi was kidnapped by fulani at 12 yrs old thereabouts and sold to the Portuguese, he became a Christian came back to Yorubaland and began evangelizing.

He was the first person to use Yoruba alphabets and translated the English Bible to Yoruba.

This was a mistake, because that Bible as brought nothing but disregard and disrepute for Yoruba belief.

Imagine the old hag calling Eshu- satan, why didn't he call Orunmila or Obatala- Jesus? It was a deliberate attempt to paint the Yoruba religion as evil, because Eshu amongst the strongest, most honored Orisha.

He used Jesu as a Yoruba word for Jesus, he used Emi mimo as a Yoruba word for holy spirit but when it came to the evil characters of the Bible he used original Yoruba words like Eshu for satan, Aje for witch and many more

He could have used Irunmole for Holy spirit, but NO!
He could have used Satani for satan, but No!
He could have used Ajogun for demons and witches, but No

He deliberately planned on using Yoruba words for the evil characters and form his own for the good characters, implying that Yoruba had nothing good.

I wonder what made him use olorun as God, he should have formed a new word like he did with Jesus and Holy spirit.

Any intelligent person would realize Ajayi's fraud/mistake.

Aje which ajayi used as witches is not a witch but an Orisha, the Orisha of wealth and trade.

Iya leye or Iya Agbaye could be the original Yoruba word for witch but not in an all evil manner.

Awon Iya Agbaye means the old mothers of life

They are neutral so they punish when they are offended, they hardly forgive but they bless when you do them good, they guide you from the Ajogun when you are respectful to them.

They are mostly old looking and live very long

which part of yoruba land you came from. Sorry for you. May be you are an ajebutter because what you and op said here about Esu and Aje was wrong. Let me ask you these questions. Can you tell me the source of yoruba power,the magics and incantations?

Do yot know why they hail Esu as Onile orita, obelekun sunkun, Elekun sunkun Laroye suneje?

who did yoruba attributes evil to? Was it not Esu? How is it different to Chrstian Satan?

Aje (witch) and Aje (what trade will brings) are thesame word but different pronounciation and different meaning.

Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Ministry: How To Commit Yourself To Satan. by Ayomivic(m): 2:52pm On Oct 10, 2013

Alfa Seltzer: Keep laughing. If you think Yahweh loves you and will save you, let me tell you that you have a big disappointment waiting for you. Your name is already in the book of Hades so you better join us while there is still time.
Ave!

In the name of Jesus every knees shall bow.

tell us what did you mean by saying "his name is already in book of hades" ? How is it enter the book of hades?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Have Qestions For The Christians by Ayomivic(op): 10:37am On Oct 06, 2013

Thank you Emusan, Christembazzy, Okeyxyz and other that contributed to this post but there are still a kind of differences in my thaught and answers you gave to my questions. I think its time for me to explaine my thaught about those questions.

I believed the first law God gave to man was in Garden of Eden.God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat of tree of knowing good and evil. God created man in such away that he will be able to controlled them to do good but immidiately they ate form forbiden tree they new what is good and bad. They no longer wait for God to lead them again. They followed their own heart and by that evil that God hate persists on earth.

From beginning God knows how to save man but is a matter of who will followed me by calling them away from doing evil.

God has planned the way of salvation from beginning to the end before he called Abraham. He used Abraham to carry out his plan. Remmeber he promises Abraham that he will 'bless (make holly) the famillis of the earth though him' Genesir 12:3 and he told Moses to tell Isrealite that 'he will send prophet like him to them among their brethen and put mx word into his mouth' Deut 18:18

the familly of earth is beyond Isreal as a country and a coming prophet has great mission to acomplish.

to be continue

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Saved Person Lose His Salvation? by Ayomivic(m): 7:43am On Oct 06, 2013

How do you know you are saved?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Saved Person Lose His Salvation? by Ayomivic(m): 7:43am On Oct 06, 2013

How do you know you are saved

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of The Tree Of Life? by Ayomivic(m): 8:17pm On Sep 30, 2013

[quote author=Dieu_merci]The tree of life refers to an eternal life in God's presence.

Revelation 2:7 NIV
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

Revelation 22:2 NIV
down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

Revelation 22:14 NIV
“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.[/quote]from what you wrote here the tree of life is not an enternal life but it gives enternal life.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of The Tree Of Life? by Ayomivic(m): 8:10pm On Sep 30, 2013

FOLYKAZE: What brought my mum here? Are you silly?

Where did I mentioned that im not sure to be atheist? Are you blind?

Who is a gal? You mad?

Im not stopping anybody from not believeing whatever he/she want to belief. I rub mind with buddhist, satanist, muslim, christian and anybody. Thats what make life. I tend to know not to belief. Go eat that brat

If you are not a christian pls stop interpreting scripture wrongly. Why, must you explain what you don't understand?

pls stop it .it can mislead people.

iam afraid, you are not a christian because you are ignorant of truth.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of The Tree Of Life? by Ayomivic(m): 7:43pm On Sep 30, 2013

FOLYKAZE: Many christians are been played in churches and only few took time to read bible on their own. To understand the term called tree of life, we need to take a step forward unto another verses in bible for us to understand what specifically it speaking about instead of building our tales from pastor on it.

Proverbs 4:5-9
King James Version (KJV)
5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
6 Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee.
7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
8 Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her.
9 She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.

We should understand here that wisdom and understanding is referred to as she....little further

Proverbs 3:18
King James Version (KJV)
18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

Proverbs 4:13
King James Version (KJV)
13 Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life.

Proverbs 4:22-24
King James Version (KJV)
22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.

There is no any tree anywhere or any Jesus that is tree. The tree of life is wisdom that giveth life, health and happiness. You find wisdom and other things shall be added unto you. It not in afterlife....stop making pastor feed on your ignorance.

what is wisdom? How/ where can ì find wisdom?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of The Tree Of Life? by Ayomivic(m): 6:52pm On Sep 30, 2013

FOLYKAZE: Took a glance through the bible this morning, I was stucked exactly at Genesis 2:9, i read little further to Genesis 3:22-24 where 'tree of life was mention. The first bible verse stated that God planted the tree alongside tree of knowledge while the second verse state that God removed the tree for man to search for it.

What exactly is this tree? Where is the tree at present? Is it literal or symbolic?

It is obvious that you didn't understand the verses you read in Bible. What you posted above is not what is in bible. The bible did not say God remove the tree of life for us to search. You added to it.

This is what Genesis 2;9 mean. It means that God grew many tree that are good to be looking and good for food in the garden of Eden. Among all those tree there were also tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

the tree of life is a whole tree on its own.

the tree of knowledge of good and evil is another tree on his own. So the bible is talking about two different tree in that verse.

You said what is tree of life ? The tree of life is a tree that grow and have it edible fruit like fruit of knowledge of good and evil. It is not symbol at all.

Adam and Eve hate the fruit of knowlege of good and evil and their eye were opened .they know what is good and bad but they were sent away before they could eat of fruit of life. That is what Genesis 3:22 says.

in similarity with this the book of Revelation tells us that anybody that make it to heaven will be the people that will eat of tree of life and they will live for ever .Revelation 2:7
with Revelation 2:7 Jesus is not tree of life.

Christianity Etc › Re: Religion Complaints Thread (sticky) by Ayomivic(m): 11:18am On Sep 28, 2013

HumbledbYGrace: Bring your complaints here....the original thread has been tempered with and until that is solved please bear with us.

Thanks.

Unlike the old thread, this will be only for complaints, solutions and suggestions, we have chatrooms for chitchats, any offtopic will hidden.

Hi Mod, please, my post tittled Is it sin to marry in these situation" was taken from religion section to Romance section but i want it to be discussed in Religion section. I also believed that sin or no sin has nothing to do with romance.

I will be delighted if it is taken back to religion section for discussion.

thanks.

Romance › Is It Sin To Marry In These Situations? by Ayomivic(op): 7:49pm On Sep 25, 2013

Case ì

There was a young man who met a girl, he proposed to the girl and the girl accepted. The young man then demands to meet with the girl's parent and the girl took the man to her parent.she introduced him to her parent as someone she wants to marry. Her parent asked the man questions with he provides answers to.they accepted their union.

After some month the man impreginated the girl, When the girl gave birth, her parent sent her to live with the man.

My question is, has this man and the girl committed fornication?

Case ii

A man met a girl and they were relationshiped. The man later went to meet the girl parent to demand for the list of dowries to be brought during the wedding but the girl's parent told the man that they are not going to collect anything but what they want from him is to take good care of their daughter.

The girl was later pregnated by the man,After some month the girl gave birth and move to the man house.

Have they committed sin or fornication?

case iiï

The boy and girl met in Secondary School, since then they have been having sex , they were in that relationship for ten years before she impregnated by thesame man.they later did the wedding.

The key point is that the man had never slept with another girl in his life except that girl and the girl had never slept with another man in her life except the man.

Have they committed sin or fornication?

Case iv
case iv is exactly like the case iii the only difference is that, they did the wedding before having pregnacy.

Have they committed sin or fornication?

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians, What Happened To The 4th Commandment? by Ayomivic(m): 6:00pm On Sep 15, 2013

macof: Christians are confused people.

which religion is yours and what do you know about your religion?

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians, What Happened To The 4th Commandment? by Ayomivic(m): 5:50pm On Sep 15, 2013*

plaetton: We have be taught from childhood that the 10 commandments were directly from god and that anyone who disobeyed any one of them was destined for eternal torture in hell.

The fourth commandment is:

Remember the Sabbath day, and keep it holy. For six days you shall labor and do all your work. But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your G-d; you shall not do any work-you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.

However, it amazes me that for nearly 2000yrs, the entire body of christianity has been willfully disobeying the 4th commandment without any guilt or fear of punishment.

So, my question is: Has the 4th commandment been amended or repealed?
Because, if not, then we can all assume that nearly all practicing christians are bound for hell on account of worshipping on Sundays, instead of the sixth day as prescribed by the 10 commandments.

Am I correct?

I need someone to update me on this curious development.

I can see that Many people still don't know the different between OT and NT.

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Online Registration Process For Nigerian Immigration Service Recruitment 2013 by Ayomivic(m): 8:05pm On Sep 12, 2013

pls, can the application be done on phone

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Online Registration Process For Nigerian Immigration Service Recruitment 2013 by Ayomivic(m): 7:57pm On Sep 12, 2013

can it be done on phone?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Rare Babalawo by Ayomivic(m): 11:17am On Sep 04, 2013

You saw a beautiful girl you will like to marry. Truely ,the lady was beautiful and you thought she has wife materials. But, won't you know her family before marry her?

Hahahaha, no power without origin or source. Why can't you study to know the origin of ifa, oro, Aje, incantations, Ogboni, Orisha, before you join or consult them

@ op, please ,who is Olodumare?

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