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IslamRe: I Have Questions For The Muslims by Ayomivic(op): 4:50pm On Aug 07, 2013
tbaba1234: If I am to consider his history, I won't take him too seriously to be honest.

But i'd respond in a few hours in shaa Allah if another brother/sister has not responded.
I don't know i have bad history on this section.Any way, thanks for your pardon
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Ayomivic(m): 3:01pm On Aug 07, 2013
musKeeto: Is it a hotmail address?
sorry, i don't undestand what you mean by " hotmail address "
he is using gmail
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Ayomivic(m): 10:48am On Aug 07, 2013
Hi Moderator,

please i have a freind who wanted to register on NL .He was asked to put his email address, he did but no message was sent to his mail. I even tried to help but all thesame i could not get it done.
I want to know how to register or why he did not recieve message on his mail.

Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: I Have Qestions For The Christians by Ayomivic(op): 7:20am On Aug 07, 2013
hackwi: What explicitly do you mean by the "old testament"law?
the law written in The book of O T. Be it Moral law or Ceremonial law
Christianity EtcRe: I Have Qestions For The Christians by Ayomivic(op): 7:12am On Aug 07, 2013
Emusan: The purpose of the OT laws is:
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels inthe hand of a mediator.

@bold-those law are given for correction before Jesus will come.



Nothing like flaw in God's work because He's an All-knowing God. According to the verse above the laws was given for our correction for Jesus to come and abolished the law.



The OT law.



Those Mosaic laws are Jesus law also no different. You might miss it up by thinking during the time of Jesus law was given but no such thing but Jesus came as to fulfill the promise(law).



The only difference there is that, God as a 'covenant keeping God' fulfill His promise in the NT.
alright, but if there is no different in Old Testament's law and Jesus law why are we saying we are no longer under the O T law and that Jesus had nailed it to cross?

How did Jesus fulfill the law? Please explain in detail
IslamI Have Questions For The Muslims by Ayomivic(op): 7:17pm On Aug 06, 2013
Please, i will like to ask Muslims some questions just to know their opinion on it. These are the questions.

1. what is the purpose of Torah (law) ?

2. What is the reason Allah commands killing of person who committed mortal sins in Torah and in Quran e.g adultery?

3. If sheria is to be followed can there be a righteous Judge like Moses and Joshua in today's world?

4. Why do we need Prophet Muhammed since the law had already established ?

5. Did Jesus know about the comming of Prophet Muhammed ?Proof from Quran will be highly welcome.

6. Did muslims comply with all laws in Torah e.g moral law, ceremonial law ?

Let me stop here while expecting answers from faithful muslims.
IslamRe: Ukranian Bishop Accept Islam by Ayomivic(m): 5:26pm On Aug 06, 2013
You are a liar, tell us one particular reason he gave to justify his action ?

Did he say Jesus is not a prophet or he has no reason for converting to Islam.
Christianity EtcI Have Qestions For The Christians by Ayomivic(op): 3:00pm On Aug 06, 2013
I am a christian and i can answer these questions based on my little knowledge of the scripture but i would like to see the brethren opinions on it.
My questions goes like this.

1. What is the purpose of Old Testament law ?

2. Which flaw did God sees in Old Testament law that made God sent Jesus to save us ?

3. What is the law of of Jesus Christ ?

4 In what ways do the law of Jesus different to the mosaic law or Old Testament law ?

5. What love and grace did God show to us in New Testament in different to Old Testament law ?
Christianity EtcRe: The True Sabath Day. by Ayomivic(m): 10:38am On Aug 04, 2013
[quote author=enigma_otr]This should help you as you search the Bible to learn how to be like Jesus and "do those things that are pleasing in His sight" even as you keep the Sabath holy just as He did while He walked the earth. 1 John 3:22
*The Sabbath is a day to cease our creating, working with the creation, and appreciate what God has done in the world and is doing in us. Genesis 2:2.
*The Sabbath is a time to lay our burdens down and rest. We should not do any servile work on the Sabbath. This includes our entire family, even our servants and beasts of burden and strangers who live among us. Jeremiah 17; Exodus 20:8-11 and Deuteronomy 5:12-15.
*The Sabbath is an holy convocation. We should meet and worship with others. Leviticus 23
*We should be reverent and show God that we love, honor, and respect His authority. Psalm 89:7, Habakkuk 2:20
*The Sabbath should be a day of delight and rejoicing, a day which we forsake our thoughts and words for God's thoughts and words. Isaiah 56, 58
*The Sabbath is a time of healing. Matthew 12, Mark 1, 3, Luke 13, 14
*We are not to buy or sell on the Sabbath.Nehemiah 13
*The Sabbath is a time to do good and visit and comfort the sick. We should do spiritual work on the Sabath, serving others. John 5
*The Sabbath is a time of prayer. Acts 16:13
*The Sabbath is a time to reason with others about spiritual principles, and for ministers to teach the word of God. Acts 17:2, 18:4, 11
*Elaborate food preparation is to be done on the day before the Sabbath so that there is no baking or heavycooking on the Sabbath. Exodus 16
*The Sabbath is a time for Singing. Ephesians 5:19-20, Colossians 3:16, Psalms 92 is called the "Sabbath Psalm".[/quote]Do you practice all these?
Christianity EtcRe: The True Sabath Day. by Ayomivic(m): 10:28am On Aug 04, 2013
[quote author=enigma_otr]There's no where it's stated in the Scripture that we should do good only on Sabath. The Ten commandment is clear on this. Keep the 9 Commandments 24/7, but the 4th commandment is once in a week. It must kept holy by dedicating it to God. Nothing can change the fact that Saturday is the Sabath, not Sunday. We should live everyday of our lives doing good, but there can only be only one Sabath day according to the Scripture.[/quote]sorry, i don't know, i just want to ask. Do the Jews worship on Sabbat day?
Christianity EtcRe: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by Ayomivic(op): 7:03pm On Aug 03, 2013
RoyPCain: @OP; we say revert to Islam, not convert because Islam is natural way to man, creation in general. Allah says that He did not create Jinn and Man except to worship Him. . .

The Holy Prophet [the another comforter of Jesus [as]; pay attention to the "holy" qualifier word] [sa] says people are born with the natural disposition to submit to God [in Islam], but it is their parent [as in family, upbringing, environment impact, etc [something external]] that take them out of it into other ways; Judaism, Christianity, Atheism, Paganism.

I remember watching Abdullah Kundee or Kunle, a white australian daayee saying that what benefit is it if a person never chose islam, independently of just being born into it? You have to make the conscious realization to enter it, at a particular age by realizing that Gos is not a man, or son of man or idol and yes, He does exist and never was not existing at no time, even before time.

So any scripture and way that God is son or man, that nullifies the way as a divine way. There is nothing Godly of God to be a man, son or partner or racist or non existing.


What is Godly is that God be Unique, Alone in All that is Godly and not part of Humanly or quality of creation because he is the Sole Creator.
you are a big deciever. "Islam is a natural way"how? you and i knew that Islam was created by Muhammed.

"Muhammed is another comforter of Jesus Christ" from which book did you quote that? Am afraid that verse does not exist, that was the reason i called you deciever. Don't let them brainwash you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by Ayomivic(op): 2:43pm On Aug 03, 2013
onetrack: The god of the Bible and Quran is not very godly in any regard. If he actually existed, it is he that should be asking us for forgiveness for creating this chaotic, violent world.
ahahah creature wants to challenge creator. Why can't you leave that one for now and face what God demands from you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by Ayomivic(op): 2:19pm On Aug 03, 2013
Rashe: they convert to islam wen dey observe dat d main objective of islam which is the believe that there is only one God and muhammed, mosses, jesus are all prophets of God ar also preach in d bible...read John chapter 17 verse 3
what is the objective of Christianity then? I think you should know that too.
Sorry to say .I doubt if Muhammed was a prophet because no prophet talked about his coming. Correct me if iam wrong.
Christianity EtcRe: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by Ayomivic(op): 10:18am On Aug 03, 2013
[quote author=Dr.seno1]u must be drunk,go to islam section and post this mtcheeeew,Freakhuh[/quote]It will be my pleasur if that can be done for me.
Hope i did not injure you much ? Sorry ehn.
Christianity EtcRe: The True Sabath Day. by Ayomivic(m): 9:42am On Aug 03, 2013
[quote author=enigma_otr]Exodus 31:15- Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest...


To most Christians, the 4th Commandment really isn't important any more. Throw that one out, but the remaining 9 still stand? What does the Word of God have to say about this?
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
And before you say it's the Old Testament Law read this:
Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
“Jesus said he did not come to cancel the laws of the prophets but to fulfill them!"
The Bible says in Exodus that the Sabbath is perpetual. That means even in the new Millennium and forever, it is observed as being HOLY unto God!
The 7th day which you know as SATURDAY. THAT'S THE DAY! Was it changed later in the New Testament? NO! Since it is still a sin to murder, steal and committ adultry, doesn't it stand to reason that it is also a sin to NOT keep the Sabbath holy on the day you have been told to keep it holy?[/quote]How can one keep Sabbath holy?
Answer this to know if you really know what you are saying.
Christianity EtcThe Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by Ayomivic(op):
There are many reasons or circumstance for someone to convert from one religion to another but i think these are specific reason why some call Christians convert to another religions especially Islam.

1. Ignorant of the scripture : This is overall reason why people leave christianity to Islam.

Some Christians does not have good knowledge of the scripture, they can't defend their faith when ask questions by Muslims and due to this reason they are easly brainwash with Questions or statements such as Christians are having three gods, christians called Jesus son of God while God does not have child or wife, Jesus is a Muslim, it was Abraham that built ka'aba etc

2. Some people can be brainwashed when they are young due to the enviroment they are living and because the parent are not strong in faith. there was a boy i knew, who was a christian by name, he was living with his grand mother who was living in the mist of muslim. She was the only christian in their face me and face you house and hardly you will see the woman and her grand son going to church. It was islamic stories they used to convert the innocent boy to Muslim but thank God the young man had change back to christianity whe he can diffrenciate right hand from left hand.

3.Love : this is always happen to some christian's ladies who are ignorant of christianity. Some of them who fall in love with muslim guys may change to islam because they don't want to lose their lover because of religion. Some are even brainwash that Muslims and Christians are worshiping thesame God.

4. Some Christians had converted to Muslim because they were promise to be given wealth.

I knew a man who was christian. Close to his house was a muslim man who was rich and famour in that area. The muslim man love this christhan and the christian man used to go to the man house. The rich man later promised the Christian a bakery and car if he can change to Islam. The man agreed, he changes his religion and name. The wife who can not bear her husband new religion left him. Some year after the bakery close down. He then went into tranport busines because he could no longer go back to the initial work he was doing before he met the rich man. Now the car is gone. And the man life is worst than before.

5 attitude or behaviours of some call christians. some people had convertd to islam because of hiding attitude or behaviours they finds in the hand of religion leader they trusts and respected eg pastor. This type of christians are into religion because of people not faith

6. Ignorant of Islamic religion. Any Christian who converted to Islam, knows little or nothing about Islam .if they did, they would'nt have done that because it just like someone who see water mirage on the ground and jumped over it but landed in the river.

What do you think can make Christian convert to Islam?

Please, if there is/are christians who converted to Islam in this forum let us know the reason for your conversion.
Christianity EtcRe: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by Ayomivic(m): 10:28pm On Jul 30, 2013
Goshen360: I have asked similar question on the saints and sinner thread. Please give me\us JUST ONE scripture THAT SAYS the laws given to Moses was divided into MORAL, CEREMONIALS ETC.

I will still explain by my promise, finding quality time. Thanks.
You don't need to be told that the law was divided before you know that if you are conversant with OT.
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Ayomivic(m): 2:44pm On Jul 30, 2013
If that statement realy comes out of pope's mouth,that shows there is fire on the mountain.

So, former pope resigned because he can not join them. Christians should becareful it is a sign of end time
Christianity EtcRe: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Ayomivic(m): 2:34pm On Jul 30, 2013
Odenigbo Aroli: The day they elect a catholic Pope is the day I join Islam!
that shows you don't know what you believed.
So, if you see immam that change to christianity you would change to pagan. Sorry for believers like you.
Christianity EtcRe: Interview With Aisha Uzoechina (pastor's Daughter Who Converted To Islam) by Ayomivic(m): 10:20pm On Jul 27, 2013
I am sorry for the lady. I think by now she should change her name to A'isha Estu Nupe since she trust Estu Nupe more than her father.

I read up there that the lady had withdraw from school but we are not told the reason she withdraw.

Must she practice her new religion in palace?

Her eyes will soon open but it may be too late for her to amend her way. I give her a year she would become a mother in her new religion. Her father and the member of the family should continue to pray for her there is something beneath her convasation to islam.

May God help her.
Christianity EtcRe: Shall We Continue In Sin? by Ayomivic(m): 9:17pm On Jul 27, 2013
shdemidemi: ^^^^ bro, I really don't know where you get your interpretations but they don't align with what the scripture is saying.

Flesh in the original manuscript is 'sarx'

Which means the unregenerate state of man or the seat of sin in a man.

From the above definition your use of flesh seem wrong.

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Paul used members in the place of flesh in this particular verse, from your own definition of flesh that verse won't make any sense if flesh means law of Moses.
shedemidemi, can we say since there is no law there is no longer sin? Because, it strongly show that without law there can never be a sin.

If there is sin, who can we call a sinner?
Christianity EtcRe: Righteousness Of The Laws Of Moses Vs Righteousness Of Grace Of Christ By Faith by Ayomivic(m): 5:25pm On Jul 27, 2013
@ goshen360, let me first sumarize what i understood by your teaching. You said we are not saved by observing the law but by faith in Jesus Christ. Is that correct?

And we understand faith to be believing in what we have not seen but heard . If this meaning of faith is correct, are you saying that if someone is a theif but he believes that Jesus died for him on cross, he believes in resurrection , are you saying that God would not punishe him for being a theif?

Are you saying that all the law include ten commandments should not be taken serious?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by Ayomivic(m): 12:35pm On Jul 27, 2013
@ ayoku777, I disagree with you on the point that "Jesus is Jehovah" that title is for God the father alone. If you said Jesus is god (elohim as you called it ) i can agree with you for the fact that God called we human being gods because we have made by God (father) to have dominion over other creatures and Jesus had made by God also to have dominion over angels and all other creatures. Read Daniel 7v 9-14. and in Matthew 28 v18 Jesus says " all power is given unto me in in heaven and in earth" the question is who give Jesus power if not the only mighty God ? ( father) that shows that God the father is greater than Jesus as himself said " he that send me is greater than me"

I and my father we are one John 10 v 30, does not me that Jesus is thesame with God the father. I think Jesus used that statement to explain the closeness between him and God. If a house wife said i and my husband are one, wha she mean is i can act on behalf of my husband. That statement does not make her a man or the head of her husband or head of family.

I don't think there is a verse in Bible where Jesus called himself Jeovah. That tittle is for God the father alone. Don't let us say what Jesus did not say it is very risky .

The fact is that God the fathe is the only suprem God in heaven and on earth.God called Moses pharaoh god because God has given power to Moses over pharaoh, we human being are gods over animals for God has given us power over them, Jesus is god to human being because God has given him power over us, God the father is God over everything include Jesus because he has power over Jesus and everything he created.
Christianity EtcRe: 'How T.B. Joshua Took My Wife' – Pastor Peter Kayode Tells It All by Ayomivic(m): 1:29pm On Jul 23, 2013
donnie: Keep dreaming, before you know it, rapture has taken place.
Are you a member of synagogue church? Are you in controlled by spiritual God father too? I can see the way you are backing TB Josuah.

As for pastor Kayode, ohun oju wa loju nri. Eniba wa iwakuwa yio ri irikuri.
Christianity EtcRe: I Had A Dream by Ayomivic(m): 8:20am On Jul 23, 2013
Pastor Olu T: bro frosbel, what message are u trying to pass across for i know surely well u don't believe in Hell?
frobel please answer pastor olu's question it is very important.
Christianity EtcRe: Lies Told By 'Jesus' by Ayomivic(m): 7:16pm On Jul 22, 2013
Rossikk: Good point. Their bible ''God'' always needs something from humans - blood, worship, virgins, more blood, more children to kill etc etc.

Yet he's perfectly happy letting his 'number one enemy' patrol the universe free and undisturbed, sabotaging his creation left, right and center!

In Revelation, we see ''God'' promising ''Satan'': ''Don't worry. I will deal with you in one thousand years time!''

What an idi.ot of a 'God'.
may God forgive you.

let me give you one assignment to do. Just look at yourself vividly, for sure you are a leaving soul, you are on earth, you are walking, speaking, doing a lot of things. It was not your intension to be on earth and to have all the features you have. You didn't know you will come to the world before you are born ,the time you will die you don't know either.

How do you think you are created ? how do you think the universe was created? If you are not sure of the answers you will give to these two questions, please stop what you are saying. It is too big for your mouth to say.

if Noah does not exist and the bible is a faretale to you . I beleive yourself is in existence. You are the leaving evidence that God exist.
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuals Have A Chance At Making Heaven!!! by Ayomivic(m): 1:41pm On Jul 10, 2013
striktlymi: Morning Ayo,

First of, if I were to go with my sentiments, I would have held the belief that every gay person will NEVER enter heaven...that would be me applying my sentiments without much thought...

I have always maintained that understanding of sacred scriptures is very key...it is not just about reading or hearing the words but also about looking at the underlying implication of what Jesus is saying.

When Christ made this comment:


Matthew 21:31
New International Version (NIV)

31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?”

“The first,” they answered.

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.


Instead of some persons to try and understand what he was saying, they decided to take it the way they wanted and the following mindset was prevalent:


Luke 7:34
New International Version (NIV)

34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’


When Christ said those words, he was seen as one who encouraged people to remain sinful, hence the tag 'friend of sinners' but in truth, Christ revealed what a number of Jews NEVER wanted to accept...and that is sharing God's kingdom with anyone they see as a sinner...

In the first passage of sacred scriptures I quoted, the individual that decided to help the man who was attacked was a Samaritan...Jews do not interract with Samaritans, otherwise they would be made unclean, according to their beliefs...

A jew typically see a Samaritan as one who is possessed by demons, hence this comment directed at Jesus:


John 8:48
New International Version (NIV)

48 The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?”


But despite this negative mindset against the Samaritans, Jesus still chose to use a Samaritan to illustrate his point about what is necessary to enter heaven...Love of neighbour and of God...if one loves his neighbour, the person automatically loves God, even when he does not know it and vise versa...

God only demands that each man does what is right in accordance with his state in life...a Muslim can make heaven if he does what is right and has a profound love for God in line with the dictate of Good conscience...

Christ made it explicit that he has some other sheep who are not part of his known flock and that they would listen to him whenever he calls (John 10:16)...those people need not be Christians...those people can be pagans...those people can be Atheists...those people can also be Gay, if only they do not know any better...

One can argue that the Goodnews has almost reached the ends of the Earth, but the truth is, the Goodnews has been distorted so much that some members of this unknown flock of Christ are finding it impossible to know what the Goodnews is and be convinced by it...
Satan also can quote bible but when he does, he will use it negatively to back himself. He quotes a bible verse when he tempted Jesus.

You still used sentiment to interpret Matthew 21:31 and all the veses of bible you wrote up there because you fail to tell us the verse of bible that say directly that homosexual will make heaven.

Next time if you want to quote bible ,quote it from reasonable verse not from middle so that people can understand it . Matthew 21:31 is a parable and the centre message Jesus was conveyed to the people there is nothing but 'repentance' let read that verses from where it will have meaning

28 But what think ye? A certain man had two son; and he came to the first, and said, son, go work to day in my vineyard.

29. He answered and said i will not: but afterward he repented and went.

30 And he came to the second, and said likewise and he answered and said, i go, sir; and went not

31 whether of them twain did the will of his father? They said unto him, the first. Jesus saith unto them,verily, verily i say unto you, that the publicans and the harlorts go into the kingdom of God before you.

32 for John and came unto you in the way of righteousness but you believe him not but the publicans and harlots believed and ye when, when ye had seen it, repentee not afterward, that ye might believe him. ( Matthew 21:28-32)

Now , hear the meaning of that parable. The first son that told his father that he would not go but later repent and went is just like gay and harlots who did not think that what they are doing is wrong but the day they heard the sermon that gay or homosexual, prostitution, is ungodly they repent from doing that.

The second son who said i will go but went not is like someone who always go to church every time he heard the sermon of what is moral and immoral to God but he did not repent from his or her evil ways. people think he or she was christian but he was a pretender.

The reason i disagreed with your topic is because you sound as if God love homosexuality . Your topic should have be, HOMOSEXUAL WHO REPENT, MIGHT MAKE HEAVEN.

The will of father (God) is that homosexual be it gay, lesbiansim, prositute, bestiality,murder,incest sould repent for God does not have pleasure in the death of wicked.

all those sins above are mortal sins in Old Testament , It irritate God
Christianity EtcRe: Homosexuals Have A Chance At Making Heaven!!! by Ayomivic(m): 10:30pm On Jul 09, 2013
striktlymi: Evening peeps,

First of, I am a Christian and I believe firmly that homosexuality is wrong in its entirety...

Haven said that, I believe firmly that some persons who have this intimate orientation will also find their way into God's kingdom...

I know the subject of ones intimate orientation is a touchy one for most Christians (if not all), and it is strongly frowned against in sacred scriptures, to the extent that St. Paul explicitly reveals that 'they' will NOT make heaven...or did he now?

Haven had cause to reflect on the words of Paul and matching this against the justice and mercy of God, I have reasons to believe that God's word as revealed by the spirit through Paul is taken out of context...

Whether we like it or not, there is evidence to suggests that homosexuality predates sacred scriptures. The act was practiced by many who had no knowledge of God or of Christ. I am of the opinion that a number of those who practiced it then believed that what they are doing does not negate their sense of morality as it was seen in their time...

Taken this as a given, it can be said that some gay persons practised homosexuality with the purity of intention without knowing any better...it would hence be absurd to hold such persons responsible for any wrong act with respect to homosexuality...

As it stands today there are persons who are unaware of God as seen in the light of Christianity and for some of those persons, being gay is as natural as it comes...

I believe firmly that God will NEVER turn his 'back' on them as long as they are sincere in their resolve and do what is right in line with the dictates of 'good' conscience.
pls stop calling yourself christian because i did not see christianity in your words.

You call yourself christian but your words lack spcriptural proof or are there any biblical verses to back your words?Your sentiment can not be taken to be genuine words. What you wrote up there can hinder someone to repent from their evils way
Christianity EtcRe: God Does Not Forgive: A Challenge To All Christians by Ayomivic(m): 4:07pm On Jul 02, 2013
kufre2010: And Jesus told peter put back ur sword for whosoever kill by the sword shall die by the sword. The same Jesus said u wil reap what u sow. If sin where to b forgiven Jesus woud'nt hv told peter that. The concept of sin and forgiven was invented by the councel that made christianity an official religion in Rome and that was why the pope was selling forgiveness for sins u wil commit in future. This doctrine of sin and forgive is what is destroying the world because a killer is killing with the hope that he is guaranteed of forgiveness. Actually i hv nt seen a personality in the bible that sin and was not punished for it not even David.
Who punished David God or man? where did he punished ,in heave or on earth? Reply.
Christianity EtcRe: The Messiah Is Already Here by Ayomivic(m): 12:18pm On Jul 01, 2013
FOLYKAZE: The internet is the “holy” messiah/ ­messenger that the world has been waiting for and sites like facebook and Google are the “holy ghosts”. Because of this new messiah all fabrication, falsehood, myths, and superstition& religious lies shall crumble and fall like a sand castle on the beach; they shall scatter like roaches when the light is turned on….

I dare anyone of you, to name any other messiah/ ­messenger/ ­prophet/priest/ ­pope of the past that has set so many people mentally free in so little span of time, open so many minds in so little time, give a voice to so many voiceless in so little time, as this fabulous thing we called the internet.

The invisible power of the internet is more powerful and reliable than all the invisible men that some people believe live in the sky & as time goes by the internet {techno ­logy} will get more powerful than every god or god-man that ever lived in the minds of men!

Instead of forcing us to be born again and act like babies the internet is asking us to grow-up and think like adults! There is no excuse for religious ignorance in 2013; maybe back in AD 13 they had an excuse, but we do not have any excuse in 2013.
WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLEEPLESS SLUMBER!
GLORY TO OUR NEWLY BORN MESSIAH
Bro,from what you wrote here ,you think you are wise for not believing in God. You better give it a second thought before its too late. Jesus loves you.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Jesus Preexist His Birth - Honeychild, Bookmark And Ijawkid Let's Discuss by Ayomivic(m): 7:03pm On Jun 29, 2013
frosbel: The Jews will spit on you for calling the Ancient of days a MAN, indeed they were expecting a messiah but he was to be of human origin , not some mythical half god half man pagan nonsense.

This is the reason why the bible says people like you prevent others from coming into the kingdom by making the word of GOD null and void with your man made traditions.

Jews, Muslims, atheists and a horde of others ,who have an interest in knowing the truth , are put off by your irrational, chaotic and mystic teachings , which have no bearing to the truth.

"The LORD swore to David a sure oath from which he will not turn back: “One of the sons of your body I will set on your throne." - Psalm 132:11
Rabbi frobel, the teaching of Jesus shows his pre-existing or else you will call Jesus or his apostle a liar.

This was what my lord told the people who doubt his pre- existing like you

'41 while the pharisees were gathered to gether Jesus asked them,

42 saying, what think ye of Christ? Whose son is he? They say unto him, the son of David.

43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him lord,saying

44 the lord said unto my lord, sit thou on my right hand, till i make thine enemies thy footstool?

45 if David then call him lord, how is he his son? ( Matthew 22:41-45 )

Also in the book of John ,Jesus made another statement that beyond man's knowledges. Let read

52 Then said the Jew unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets: and thou sayest, if a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.

53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham which is dead? And the prophet are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

54 Jesus answered , if i honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

55 yet ye have not known him but i know him and if i should say i know him not, i shall be a liar like unto you: but i know him, and keep his saying.

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day and he saw it, and was glad

57 then said the Jews unto, thou art not yet fifty years old and art thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, i say unto you, before Abraham was, iam

59 then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hide himself, and went out of temple, going through the mist of them, and so passed by. ( John 8:52-59 )

please rabbi frobel explaine paragraph 45,57,58 above to see if you know what you are saying.
Christianity EtcRe: What Does It Mean When Aarons Rod Becomes A Serpent ? by Ayomivic(m): 2:37pm On Jun 29, 2013
obadiah777: WHAT DOES A ROD REPRESENT ? IT REPRESENTS SUPPORT. WHAT IS ISRAELS SUPPORT ? >>> 'THE WORD OF GOD'. CASTING DOWN THE ROD TO THE GROUND MEANS REJECTING GOD. AND WHEN YOU REJECT GOD, HE BECOMES AN ENEMY TO YOU. HE BECOMES YOUR ADVERSARY. SATAN MEANS ADVERSARY. HE IS A SERPENT TO YOU >>>> PROVERBS 8 VS 36 all they that hate me love death NOW THE GENTILES ( PHAROAH ) ALSO CAST THEIR RODS TO THE GROUND AND THEY BECAME SERPENTS BUT AARONS SERPENT SWALLOWED AND ATE ALL THEIR SERPENTS. WHAT DOES THAT REPRESENT ? IT MEANS GOD IS A BIGGER ADVERSARY TO YOU THAN ANY MAN CAN BE IF YOU REJECT HIS WORD. GOD IS WHO YOU NEED TO FEAR THE MOST >>>>> MATTHEW 10 VS 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
so every words written in bible have different meaning to you. How did you know the interpretation you are given to scripture? Are you a prophet?

Bro pls examine yourself something must wrong.

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