March man:

Even before the birth of our child, I had already decided on the name we would give the boy. After his birth, I promptly named him, two Ijaw names and one Yoruba. The Mother is Yoruba. But my wife refused to call the baby his name after two weeks of delivery. Her grouse is that our pastor has not come to officially name the child! We attend Christ Embassy. [b]I told her naming ceremony is just routine [/b]and I have been so busy. My people, who gives a child names, the parents or the pastor?

Febup:

Deuteronomy 14: 24-26 King James Bible
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
25Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose: 26And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

One question I keep asking here is why did God not ask for the money after the tithes have been exchanged for money. To me this shows that God does not want tithes of money, but why almost all churches collect tithes of money today is a mistery

jbx:

Well bikokwe just like wazobia fm'u don talk your mind'but i want to ask u a question'what do u think i would gain by lying against the church? Secondary minus tithe,offering,sowing seed or thanksgiving who would want to be a pastor?Most of all these pastors are graduates who couldn't get a well paid job and they're lazy at the sametime,so they call themself into ministry.Apart from pastor chris,adeboye and other private jet pastors'that would get a job in shell and still continue ministry.Next time before u haul insult check your birthday and know who is your elder before i take kpako nack your head like terry g.

KunleOshob:

@darethink
Thanx for your articulate expose on their yeye yookos website and putting them in their proper position. Imagine comparing a wretched website which stands at number 79,049 to the number 2 website in the world. Bunch of retards

PAGAN 9JA:

jesus was sore loser. since his time, our Earth has only known pain and suffering. he sufferred for us on the cross and now he makes us suffer. wat a loser.

laytoshtwo:

A lot of people comment out of frustration,no job,no joy,dont provoke them.Frustrated youths,turn to God he will help you.Don 't add more petrol to your burning lives by abusing men of God.

KunleOshob:

^^^
That is why the devil promotes a false version of the gospel using it's agent such as CEC.

nlMediator:

Not one person I know thinks that ministers do not 'give.' The point is that they mainly give to their ministries. If I give my money to my business, do you call that giving? Or it becomes giving because my business is a christian ministry? Right, they do not dwell on ministry money. They get gifts. But why is it that church members that also give do not become rich through gifts by other church members? Does that principle only work for ministers?

EarsWide:

Just a thought, government officials are not allowed to keep gifts given to them (in their capacity as government officials) - the gifts belong to the government. Yet pastors are allowed to keep the gifts given to them in their capacity as pastors - in fact they openly talk about the 'gifts' on the pulpit.
This is yet another case of the secular world being more moral and transparent than the pentecostal churches.

aletheia:

^
Who is this silly little female child throwing around words she doesn't understand? I am almost certain the only reason you are in CE is because you have wasted your youth and are now looking for one unfortunate man to trap. . .which accounts for all these your "notice me, I am a church worker" efforts. You get excited by words like nepios, how pathetic you are. . .how sad.

KunleOshob:

@All
I think the problem at hand is that deepsight considers this is just about  lively debates and fun on nairaland, also as a lawyer he finds nothing wrong in twisting and manipulating facts as that is what he does for a living so he cannot see any thing wrong when joagbaje is spreading his poison which he merely dismisses as opposing views. However for us christians it goes much further and deeper than that. It is not just about lively debates, it is about life, death and eternal salvation which christ bought with his precious blood. [b][color=#990000]No true christian would stand and watch a so called pastor abuse the very gospel of our lord Jesus christ. [/color][/b]It is not about opposing views as the christian gospel is not subject to man's views. It is an indivisible truth which must NOT be twisted in any form or shape else it looses it's true meaning.

aletheia:

As always the same M.O in operation. . .to make it seem that he's being persecuted. It will not stand. Any one who cares to research the aforementioned threads will find that Joagbaje revels in self-advertisement and thus invites such research into his "personal" affairs. As soon as the heat is on, he switches tactics and starts alleging insults and persecution. The leopard cannot change it's spots.
Notice how they have successfully changed this conversation from Joagbaje's false gospel to his "right to privacy". Nonsense.
@DeepSight: I am unto you.