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So all those sincere Jews who have made videos denouncing the Zionist regime in Israel and all non-Muslims and non-Jews and all them protesters all over the world showing their support for the Palestinians are Islamist and Jihadists. You people who know nothing about international politics will just be making mouth about revenge and how Israel would destroy them, but you do not appear to remember when the Yorubas said " adiye ba lokun, ara o rokun ara o ro adiye..." The hen is perching on a string, neither the string nor the hen will be comfortable. WQith all its ght and power, the USA had to leave Afghanistan with its tail between its legs after billions of dollars and thousand of lives of American soldiers down the drain

UK has just announced a £3million to help Jewish schools improve security and training to avert terror attacks and it is similar stories wherever Jews live all over the world and you think that is victory? Where people live the rest of their lives in fear. Jews have also been advised to try and hide any memorabilia that can easily identify them as Jews. I can bet you this is not the lives anyone wants for themselves. Real and moderate Jews and moderate Palestinians are happy to live in peace but extremists on both sides do not want that and they are the ones winning for now

Beuberry:
Noise.
Carry sword, go to Hamas and fight jihad. Don't be a coward.

You know, no be who first call police dey win case. The propaganda you islamists and jihadists v unleashed is so sweet that the revenge ll make you all cry. Do the propaganda well. Those that know how to set records straight ll straighten you.

Was there also ever an Israeli STATE with Kings and what not in the last 1000 years. If Archaeological findings are pointing to the fact that my Yoruba ancestors really used to live in Mecca at a point in the last millennium does that guarantee me automatic claim to land ownership in Saudi? And I have used this argument severally that when the Israelites were brought out of slavery in Egypt and given these lands by their God, there were people already living on the land at the time also. In human history most people have moved away to different places and swapped places with others due to various factors since the dawn of mankind. What is however not in doubt is that the Jews, Christians and Arabs have lived on these lands previously and not in the last 1000 years has it been under the direct rule of the Jews as an established state.

Mind you sir, those who do not want peaceful co-existence are found on both sides of the argument. There are the Zionists who think the Jews are superior to the Arabs and should not be negotiating with them for anything

GUNITGuy:
Please can you tell the year month or even day the Arabs ever had full Autonomy over the Land .....All archeological findings shows that the land belong to the Jews ....The Jews never ascepted Islam like other old middle Eastern parts ..During the Arab conquest other civilization were lost except Judaism in the middles East and north Africa they wiped them out history has told us
. The Canaanites like Egypt(Africa), Persians(Iran), Babylonians(Iraq), and other middle East society were into idol worship but were wiped out after Arab conquest... Present day Egypt are not the original owners that's just an Evidence for you... We are suppose to still have pharaoh but they are all monuments.... Present day original Egypt are the black Africans but they are no longer there
The Jews have existed there for 3500yrs......
As for the DNA Palestine's are Arabs they related to Jews by Abraham...
Even when they divided the land the Arab world don't want a two states they just don't want a Jewish state among the middles east that's what you don't want to ascept ...Even after 5attempts only to go to war against small Isreal and loose more territories..if Isreal were wicked they would have occupied Syria, Lebanon, Egypt after the Yom kippur war ...
The Isrealis decimated Egypt until Cairo that Egypt had to sign an agreement never to attack Isreal again only if Isreali troops should not occupy Egypt..That's why Egypt don't attack anything Isreal..
Since they(Arabs) can't fight or win a war with Isreal what they do is to fund terrorist cells that attack Isreal through suicide bombing, unwarranted attacks, and kidnapping of Jews anywhere in the world ....A case of an Isreali school bus bombing happened over 20yrs ago when I was in Primary school it was very disheartening this was just one of the numerous atrocious acts done by this guys ...
There's no evidence to show that Arabs holds any thing Isreal..
Please the Canaanites aren't Arabs point of correction most other civilization in the middles east have been wiped out during the Islamic conquest for over 1400yrs except Jewish ..
Please against Palestine ever existed prior to 1948 who was their king, prime minister or President....
They never had any there...
The Judah and they claim or Jerusalem have always been the seat of control of Isreal by the Jews ....
Were do they come from ....You can't say they have no lands ....
The Jews would never convert to Islam and would never be subjected to it inorder to be ascepted in that middle East let those Arab nations start their wars they won't end it that I can tell you for free and for certainty

I can see where lies your problem, you think that anyone who sympathises with the Palestinians is condoning Hamas. I can tell you now that is NOT the case, but the problem always comes when you just want to condemn HAMAS without talking about the other side. It is the same with 9/11, the whole world including Muslims condemned killing of innocent people in the name of their religion, but the condemnation ONLY is all people wanted to hear, lets talk about the WHY, then you are accused of condoning terrorism. Please be reminded that the Palestinian struggle predates Hamas. You should know that there are extremists on both sides who do not want peace at all, and that is why Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by hardliner Zionist who do not agree you should be negotiating with the people whose land were forcefully taken. It is the same attitude of extremism and dissatisfaction with PLO's peace negotiation that gave birth to Hamas who think PLO is too soft, SO you can blame people on both sides.

As for your other comment, why are you also devoting so much energy to this issue if the killings by militant groups in the East is not your concern ( I must assume your are Ibo also unless you say otherwise)

Beuberry:
I blv you are Yoruba. You should worry about Yorubaland especially as Fulanis are running rampage nationwide. All you think of is how America did this or that! You look like a MURIC or shite agent!




I understand what propaganda is and all aljazeera did in that post is hogwash cos it's one sided. Aljazeera ll never talk about muslims menace worldwide but share sympathy with Palestine. See the screenshot below to see the mofos that created this documentary.
They talked a out how Israel was formed but didn't talk about how Islam was formed.
I v seen many posts of you about Palestine. Your propaganda is acknowledged but ignored. Let your charity begin at home.
If Israel took Palestine land via conquest, acknowledge that the present Ilorin emirates genesis was from similar route so declare it illegal alongside fulani herdsmen menace in Nigeria. When that's done, Nigerians ll consider the plight of Palestine. Fire cannot be burning in your house and you are quenching another person's house's fire!
Pic 1: Egypt and Lebanon also acquired large portions of Palestine's allege lands. Aljazeera and islamists don't talk about this. They don't talk about how all Arab countries dislike Palestine and won't allow their citizens in freely cos they are bigger terrorists than them after Al-Qaeda. Talk about terrorists fearing terrorists.
Pic 2 & 3: Names of makers of the one sided documentary.
No problem, all muslims here and worldwide having stupid sympathy for Palestine, tell them to go and wake up all the dead they killed in Israel and Israel to ll wake up all Hamas vagabonds they v dropped!

Your argument is trying to make it look as if the word "STATE" is an entity that must be defined by a nomenclature for a piece of land otherwise we don't recognize the people living there. For comparison , would you be able to tell me the name of the state in which the Native Indians were living before the Europeans invaded them?

You have used the Kingdom of Israel freely, as if that was a state recognized by modern international law. And we can ask why did the UN/British need to form a new Nation of Israel in 1948 on this piece of disputed land if the Israelite already have a state there ? Simply because according to the timeline you have beautifully analysed here, there has not been a STATE OF ISRAEL on that piece of land for almost a millennium and neither was there an official STATE OF PALESTINE as well. There were Jews Christians and Arabs living on that land for ages under different rulership as you have enumerated.

In summary do not try to muddle the issue by introducing the concept of state, because that is a modern thing. Except perhaps for the Egyptians and the Ethiopians, all piece of land currently occupied by any "STATE" in this present world has previously been inhabited by others before now

Caesarddi:
Rezaul Karim For the next sympathizer of Palestine, get these facts right:

Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Empire, not a Palestinian state. Godfrey IV of Boulogne, known as Godfrey de Bouillon, conqueror of Jerusalem in 1099

-Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

-Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian statehood.

Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE!

So you don't care if there were other people on the lands before the Israelite. That the Israelite were given the land by God mean they own it forever? And even if there have been an interregnum of 1000 years when they have not lived on the land, they can just barge in anytime they feel like. You are hereby saying that might is right in which case Russia is also justified to invade Ukraine because parts of Ukraine historically belonged to Russia and in fact there are ethnic Russians still living in those places. I get you, don't worry soon the native Indians scattered in South America would soon rise up to reclaim the whole of America for themselves, after all their forefathers used to historically own the land

Image123:
No, i said you mentioned it already and it's on biblical record. On the other hand, it's opposing folks like you that fail to see that the Israelites were people already living on the land for THOUSANDS of years before the Palestinian people.

I agree with you the Jews dont engage in suicide bombing, they use long range bombing and total massacre like their forefathers in the Bible.


" When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God. (Deut 20:10-17)

“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. ( Numbers 31:15)

If you like I can gladly supply you more violence and "God" sanctioned terrorism in the Bible, so whatever Israel is doing now is not a new thing, but you should know that real Orthodox Jews who practice Judaism have been condemning the Zionist regime of Israel everywhere from New York to London saying whatever is happening in Palestine is not in their name as the Zionist does not give a toss for Judaism and they are only interested in the Jewish Nationalism, I just thought you should know this and there are so many videos of people like these on social media


https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-pro-palestinian-arrests-descendants-holocaust-gaza-ceasefire-schumer-brooklyn-2023-10

https://www.tiktok.com/@simkern/video/728803236151248822


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7288333812461833478?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7289200200290143490?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7288990765085248770?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

Did you just omit the part where there were people already living on the land when their God promised them the land?

Image123:
They know their history very well like you just quoted. It is you their opposers that try to gaslight us that the land belongs to Palestine, knowing fully well that Jews lived in that land for thousands of years.

Waaoh! And somebody actually liked this response? Wikipedia entries that are sometimes not verified and can be edited by anyone is your historical source of information?. Waaoh once again, you are truly not very enlightened bro. And I can also understand from your response that you did not even bother to check the link, otherwise you would have seen that it belongs to an Israeli Tour Operator and not ' some Islamic Jihadist'

And you mentioned Britannica, what did you read from Britannica can you share it with us please because that is a better source of info than Wikipedia. If I were to hazard a guess I would happily say you are probably one of those who believed that Peter Obi actually won in 19 states

omu4364:
You don’t just come online and post a link and say it is a source of historical information

The major source of historical information around the globe is Wikipedia and britinaca.
Go to Wikipedia or any other major source of historical information

Don’t send me a source written by some Islamic jihadist .

We can ask the same question of the Israelis about whether their father ever told them that some people were already living and well established on the land even before they were forcefully given the land by their God Wait... I think the Bible (Torah) tells that story in Deut 18:9.and Deut 6:10-12

" When the LORD your God brings you into the land he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you—a land with large, flourishing cities you did not build, houses filled with all kinds of good things you did not provide, wells you did not dig, and vineyards and olive groves you did not plant—then when you eat and are satisfied,be careful that you do not forget the LORD, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."

"When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways o[b]f the nations there[/b]"

Image123:
What sort of clownish gaslighting is this? History wey BIBLE no dey inside, that one na history? Did the land suddenly appear there in 1917 or the 18th century? Why you no rewind your history to centuries and millenias earlier? So convenient to start from when Palestine inhabited the land. Did the fathers of the palestinians not tell them the history of the land or they decided to play dumb?

Put History in perspective with respect to time bro, don't expose your ignorance by cutting and pasting from Wikipedia. Multitudes of tribes and races have occupied that land over the course of several millenia including even whilst the Jews were still enslaved in Egypt. Read the link below from a Jewish Historical website to understand better how the demography of that region changed over the millennia


https://www.beinharimtours.com/historical-events-in-israel-from-the-byzantines-to-the-british/

omu4364:
This is king Herod
He was a Jewish and he was king of Judae. A Jewish kingdom

There’s no race like Palestinians, they are Arabs

You want to tell story? Maybe you should start from how the "God" of the Bible promised the Israelis lands which are already inhabited by others

" When the LORD your God brings you into the land he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you—a land with large, flourishing cities you did not build, houses filled with all kinds of good things you did not provide, wells you did not dig, and vineyards and olive groves you did not plant—then when you eat and are satisfied, be careful that you do not forget the LORD, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery." Deut 6: 10-12

“When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, be very careful not to imitate the detestable customs of the nations living there. Deut 18:9 . Need I go on to tell you how the so called land belonging to the Israelis were forcefully taken over from others living there already?

And if you were to follow your Bible and words of your Lord Jesus Christ did he not say " “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit" Matt 21:43. Are you saying Jesus is lying here or perhaps you have another explanation for this Prophecy.

The Jews have not been on that land for a millennium and suddenly they think they are more entitled to the land because they are God's people. Perhaps you should ask yourself why the Jews suffered several pogrom in Europe that necessitated to start looking to get back to their so called ancestral land which were forcefully taken from others right from the onset.

All the arguments I have been hearing about the land belonging to the Jews historically is very hollow considering the fact Native Indians have historically owned the area of land now called the USA for ages before the European invaders forcefully took over the lands. I want you to be objective and tell me how you think the USA is going to react if Indian nations of South America from Peru, Chile to Bolivia woke up one day and gather an army saying they want to take back just California and Texas because "historically" their forefather used to live on the land.

In the same vein history has it that the Oduduwa, the progenitor of Yoruba was expelled from Mecca because of idolatry before coming down to settle at the current Yorubaland. Can we Yoruba wake up one day and say we used to live in Mecca historically so we want some piece of land in Saudi so that those who want to Japa to escape the economic harshness in Nigeria can find sojourn?

Or perhaps the Vikings who used to rule in Britain centuries can make a comeback from their Scandinavian bases to come and ask for some lands which they used to own historically

And again go and check your history properly, Jerusalem at the time of the early Muslims was under the Christian Byzantine empire and NOT the Jews

ahaz:
Mr Oga if you and your biased ALJAZERA wants to tell the history of Israel, start from before 750 BC when the Babylonians burnt down the temple or start from the time of King David at least it's in your Quran but you won't read the quranic account but want to hypocritically ignore it to take sides.
If anyone is narrating the history of Israel from 1947 then that person is just a logger...Your Muhammed himself met Jews in Jerusalem when he came visiting.

The Saudi Arabia s themselves knew of a truth that the Hebrews have being inhabiting that land for centuries before the Muslim caliphs started butchering them and concerned them to a small location in the map and flooded the land with Arabs who were mostly children of islamic solders fighting the crusaders over the control of Jerusalem.

If we will excuse the ancient Palestinians who were called the Phiistians of old who were found in GAZA, Ekron etc el not all the Arab land grabbers who were like your FULANI brothers chasing away the people of the middle belt from their lands but be rest assured, a generation will some day arise and do the needful against the Fulanis.

keep ranting all you can , Agulu man no go see the inside of Aso Rock even as an ordinary visitor. The earlier you know that the better for your blood pressure

etcme:
Smiling and suffering. Typical example of agbado people.

I hope you are buying fuel at N200/L with your Ronu Card.

Where is even your forgery master. Why is he not holding FEC meeting.

Has he gone to renew his lies?

I don't even know why Christians still believe the Israelis are special because even Jesus himself who they do not recognize up till present time said that the Kingdom of God shall be take away from them Israelis and given to another nation. The Israelis give no toss for Christianity and that was why they targeted and killed a Christian Palestinian journalist lady despite wearing the clear insignia of PRESS.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/24/shireen-abu-aqleh-palestinian-journalist-killed-by-israeli-bullet-un-says

https://www.youtube.com/live/PISs0AwztGQ?si=ywliQdUp6eUyOFr9

If you anyone is jumping on this story just in the last two week they can be excused for saying Hamas provoked the conflict as they have not followed the story right from inception in 1948.

Adjovi:
The journalist that where shelled by Israel where also used by Hamas as human shields too right? United Nations refugee camp that was shelled was also used by Hamas too shey?

I wonder the kind of Christians we have in the world today. Most of you are just serving God in vain because you don't understand or know what being a Christian is. Smh

See Commander-in-Chief of the Israeli Defence Force talking, so there were no missiles during the war with Taliban and the Mujahideen. True Afghanistan was reduced to rubbles but at what cost to the USA in lives and money. It is easy for you to hide in your mummy's room and be warmongering, as if you know anything about wars. Sensible people are calling for peace and here you are shooting off your mouth......From your comment about the Ukraine/Russia war it will appear you dont even know a lot about what you are talking about honestly, you think what is happening is like in the Rambo film? Do you know how many soldiers and non-combatants have died so far?

Oga Timothy, I pray for you and I to be alive in two weeks so you can tell me " I told you so" but in the name of the innocent on both sides of the conflict we shall continue to pray for peace to reign

TimFisher2:
See how you are fuming in your mouth.


You end up saying crap

Who gives a Bleep about Afghanistan war....At the end, Afghanistan was reduced to rubbles. it will take 200 yeas to look like Jordan not even Saudi, the same with Iraq.



We are operating a missile war era. Nobody needs to move much ground soldiers so as to minimize deaths. see Ukraine/Russia.


Don't worry...I give you 2 weeks...Hamas will turn to Israeli Airport.

Watch!

....the way the coalition was able to neutralize a ragtag Taliban Army in Afghanistan? You people never learn from history. The 'Almighty' and powerful Army of Soviet Union ( not even just Russia) could not win against the Mujahideen of Afghanistan, US with all its might and power could not vanquish the VietCong and the same USA had to run away from Afghanistan with its tail between its legs and here you are foaming at the mouth about how they would ' neutralize the blood suckers'. America and Britain can make gragra when it comes to harassing minnows, why have they not tried to intervene directly in the Ukraine War against Russia if dem born dem well

Up till now BBC refused to call Hamas a terrorist organization because one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If you cant call the Ukrainians terrorists for fighting again the invasion of their land why is it different for Hamas and the Palestinians who have been under illegal occupation for 75 years now.....

And don't get me started about Israel owning the land historically because they don't...even when the God of the Bible promised them the new land flowing with milk and honey those lands were already occupied by certain people. You can justify Israel forcefully taking the lands from the Palestinians only if you can justify it if a coalition of Native Indian nations of the world like Chile Peru Nicaragua, Bolivia etc gather an army to take over California and Texas just because their forefathers used to live there originally. Would the 'Almighty' US agree and willingly forfeit the land?

Learn your history properly before taking sides and forget about the religion of those involved in the conflict that is secondary to the issue because Palestine is a land of Muslims, Christians and Jews. Don't jump into the issue from just two weeks ago, rewind back to 1948 to get a clearer picture. There is a difference between peace loving Jews who follow Judaism and the the aggressive Nationalist Zionists who cares less about Judaism but more about Jewish Nationalism. Watch the videos below from such Jews



https://www.tiktok.com/video/7288333812461833478


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7288032361512488222

TimFisher2:







Hamas killed it when they murdered Israelis and started chanting Allahu Abobaku

When Moslem terrorist kills infidel... They shout Allahu Abobaku.


The world immediately saw it as a religious/Jihad war...all the sympathy they had for them eroded.


The world understood where they were going..different demands, same ideology.


Watch how world powers will put hands together to neutralize these blood-sucking monsters!

And it is not illegal to attempt to scuttle democracy through the backdoor, when someone came third in an election and wants to be declared the winner without proving why?

Taylor94:
But it’s legal to rule 250Million Nigerians with a forged certificate


Rules in Nigeria is only meant for the poor


Bros/sis if you get money and you know say you dey your right


Any Mumu lawyer wey near you talk rubbish just target him mouth with your left fist


Tinubu has reduced these high profile lawyers to zero


Na this Tinubu case cast Nigerian lawyers nobody dey rate them again

You lots are the wailers since your Agulu man failed to make impact and so shall you continue to wail till you even miss the beginning of good things in Nigeria. All you want is for things to continue to worsen so you can make a useless point about not voting in your Agulu man. Even when dollar was less than 1 Naira around 1984/85 was Nigeria flowing with milk and honey and there was no hardship in the land? Yeyenatu!

etcme:
Cry me a river, I have bucket to fetch your tears.

1 Dollar is close to N1,100.

Tell your Tinubu to do his magic.

Is it not better to have kept quiet than this pitiable attempt at damage control? Who is kidding who here? That Peter Obi actually called a press conference to address the outcome of the CSU saga but he is lily-livered and dey fear arrest and so he could not say what he is supposed to have said? . SO what was the purpose of the press conference. Even when he was trying to incite religious war no one get him time
Wetin we no go hear from these pseudo-activists, the same Hundeyin selling fake info that they want to grab him from Ghana. You lots would always believe any yarn spun for you anyways

etcme:
Also show this side.

Don't copy half and paste here for us.

Agbado boys and propaganda

Do you know why BBC is being dragged for refusing to refer to HAMAS as a terrorist organization? because one man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Would you say Ukrainians fighting against Russian invasion are terrorists when they used drones to kill soldiers and civilians in Dombass and some other places? Meanwhile Russia is trying to justify his invasion of Ukraine by saying they are trying to protect ethnic Russians who used to inhabit some of the areas now belonging to Ukraine,

For those who will argue that the land belongs to the Jews, please note that even in the Bible and Torah, the lands given to the Israelites were not uninhabited, the Israelites actually fought the original inhabitants to conquer some of those lands like in Deuteronomy 18:9 "When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there"


Saying the Jews have a right to the land is equivalent to the Native Indian nations of Brazil, Peru, Nicaragua, Chile etc gathering together now and saying we want to takeover California and Texas because our forefathers used to live there originally..... what do you think is going to be the reaction of almighty USA? Israel that you said a Christian must support do not give a toss for Christianity, have absolutely no respect for Jesus like Muslims do and might have been God's favourite people at one time but even Jesus said in Matt 21:48 that the Kingdom of God shall be taken away from them and given to another nation that will bring forth its fruit.

Apparently people cannot differentiate the multitude of peace loving Jews from the nationalistic Zionists who do not care about Judaism or the Torah. Lots of moderate and sincere Jews have always condemned unequivocally the actions of the Zionist ruling Israel now. Many of these have been speaking out against the Zionist on so many video clips presently circulating on social media especially TIkTok. The current state of Israel do not represent Judaism and do not deserve special respect or support of Christians.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/987888852323273


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7288032361512488222


https://www.tiktok.com/video/7288333812461833478

I don't think it is photoshopped but why cant they make it clearer so we can see the name underneath the picture and confirm if it is Atiku Abubakar or Siddiq Abubakar. I have tried to zoom in and still cannot make out any letters. I have no issue believing that Atiku actually went to school, the comma is in whether he is the owner of the WAEC certificate

If na Hundeyin write some piece like this, you obviously wont say he is paid and the questions we will be asking is " is he lying"? In the same vein, is there anything in this article that is incorrect or a lie? or maybe I didn't get you

Kukutente23:
Only God knows how much the writer got for this
Congrats to him

I was baiting you but I will remain a better person than you by not replying you with insults. You have unwittingly revealed not only your hatred for Yorubas but for Muslims as well, because I still fail to realise how the issue of Yoruba Muzlem has crept into all the discussions so far. IT means you cant wait to insult a whole 100 million people due to your hate and malice filled personality and those insult probably include the guy who gave you the 5k that affords you the opportunity to buy data to insult and the woman called Aihsa Yesufu who wants to kill herself on your IPOB agenda. You can see that I was not bigoted like you to tarnish all Obidients with the same brush but you have significantly indicated your ignorance and intolerance of other tribes and faith.

Good luck to you and your hate filled life........

TheEndless:
Of course I expected you to react. Babatunde Mumurudeen. Typical yoruba Mozulem pigoid.
And why are we leaving out the masalashis?? I mean without these hellholes called masalashis your kind would simply not have existed!

Really! So how did you pick them out from this forum? Me think however that leaving out the 'mashalasi', the attributes you have mentioned will conveniently describe probably 80% of those who say they are Obidients... in which case the 'mashalashi' can be substituted for "fake news Obidient platforms", don't you agree?

TheEndless:
Oh… Don’t get me started on these subhumans!
They’re a subset of the otherwise intelligent Yoruba race but they’ve been so severely mutated in the brain due to constant slamming away of brain cells on concrete in their concentration camps known as masalashis that at the end all that’s left of them is their inability to differentiate right from wrong and an extreme penchant to blatantly showcase dangerous stupidity!

The ones who keep changing the dates of birth on their cv every year, who put skills they dont have or companies they have not worked on cv, those who have used their office to enrich themselves and their families, those who have no issues to lie on visa application to japa, those who have entered into fake marriages to procure residency abroad, those who knew someone with ill gotten wealth and will never shun them but rather help them spend their money, those who cheat on their wife or girlfriend, those who take and give bribe to curry and give favours, those who defraud the government in all ways they can think of, those who hide their incomes to avoid paying correct taxes, those who spread fake news everywhere without compunction, those who backbite and slander others without proof.... all of them too will come to social media to form holy holy and do not see any of those evils they do as CROOKED.....typical hypocrites are the ones who shout the loudest if we remember the story of the woman supposedly caught in adultery in the Bible...................." he is who is without sin, let him cast the first stone......

Is that another group of people... Yourba Mozulem?... where are they and how do you differentiate them?

TheEndless:
Las las na who corruption nor favor na him dey complain. But my grouse with yoruba Mozulem 🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖s be say, e nor dey favor them rara. In fact most of them get alternate beggar monikers, yet dem carry the matter for head pass who dey sell gala for hold up!

.....the same group of people that held rallies in their villages to support Donald Trump are the ones shouting loudest about integrity, now Donald Fraud is on the verge of going to jail after being indicted of falsifying documents, fraud, and whole lots of felony and criminal charges, the same group who read something in plain and clear English and still understand something completely different....... I agree with you bro, it is an uphill task explaining anyhting to these lots

LeoDeKing:
A whole group of people "knew" Buhari died and was cloned with jubrin from Sudan.

Same group "knew" Nnamdi Kanu was going to Abuja and return with Buhari's head on a spike.

I'm referring to the same group who agreed all Hausa from the North voted pitobi despite the insults.

How do you explain academic certification system to that group of people? Not even Nigerian system but Americans'.

E get some things wey no dey possible for this world.

This woman definitely need hear head examined for this comment and I don't mean that derogatorily, At this point we don.t even know whether they are still for Obi or Atiku, because the 'forgery' allegation benefit Obi in no way, but I guess anyone but Tinubu suits them

emkz:
If they remove Tinubu, will that help Peter Obi become President?

This woman was employed by Labour Party to help them.

She did not pay polling unit agents and the polling unit agents refused to go to the field.

Then Peter Obi claimed he won election, but his polling unit agents' results could not be found.

Aisha Yesufu has questions to answer as to the outcome of the funds that were never paid to the agents.

But because she doesn't want them to ask her questions, she keeps fighting Tinubu and pretending to be active.

For those who donated to Labour Party, you were badly played.

Aisha and her ilk are no different from those they criticize.

Now to the matter at hand: how exactly is Tinubu similar to Mmesoma? Before we analyze whether Tinubu forged results or not, let us ask one fundamental question to Aisha and her cult of pretenders:

Did Tinubu win the election or not?

If you say he did not win, prove it and remove him because of that.

If you say he won, then explain to us how his resignation benefits you.

Who benefits if Tinubu is removed?

Atiku!

Aisha Yesufu supported Atiku in 2019, and there were rumours that Atiku influenced her husband's appointment in NHIS where he was subsequently fired for fraud.

So for those who want to celebrate Aisha's pseudo-activism, whether Atiku or Obi comes in, she wins.

Do not be deceived that she is on the side of the masses.

I like this response, typical when attempting to parry away from the real issue. Are you telling me here that the F9 filled GCE result of Mr Gringory obtained two years after graduating from UNN is the best of his lowest academic qualifications he can submit to meet the minimum requirement? If this is true, then we are wondering what qualifications did he present then to enter UNN in 1980. It is not even about his University degree now. Since you people love consipracy thories so much, we have given you one here, let Gringory coem clean without being dragged and give us a glimpse of the qualifications he used to gain entry to UNN and thereafter we can ask the question of why a university graduate would need to sit for GCE again two years after graduating. Don't worry, we wont ask about why a University graduate sat for GCE and managed to net four F9s

greggng:
Let's not attach sentiment to this issue. The minimum qualification required by law for you to become a governor is waec ...every other tijhg na jara. Once you claimed you have any qualification and submitted it on oath...then the law takes its course from there . That's why most of our politicians submit what they can defend to avoid being dragged unnecessarily. Peter obi didn't submit university resukt and as such cannot be dragged based on that . In this case tinubu submitted Chicago certificate ...if he submitted waec result ...without additional qualification all we needed to do is to consult waec to verify his result. This is the fact . He claimed he graduated from govt college lagos in 1970 while the school was established in 1974 ...how could this be possible ?. He submitted on oath thst he not a dual citizen ...but the csu certificate showed a social security number of a black American. Who is the owner of the certificate thst tinubu is claiming? There is no way out of this mess than for him to resign and save his face .. if he said he is an American citizen...that means he lied under oath.....if he says he is not the owner of the certificate ...that means he is an impostor. Whichever way ...there is no way.

Finally if you claimed you graduated from a school and the process thst led to your graduation is not okay ...then you are not worthy to be called a graduate of the school . The only reason why some people still remain quiet is vos of ethnic consideration ...This case will define the existence of this nation. The 14million voters that came from lp and pdp are more than the 8million tinubu got . The supreme court can only sae this country or destroy this country . They tribunal claimed his Guinea passport was honorary and expires when the passport expires. . Let's see if tinubu citizenship of USA is still honorary with a social security number . Why did he has to lie on oath thst he is not American citizen ...? Is the ssn a clerical error ?

You have not achieved anything by putting up these old tweets of his. He has been upfront to say he was previously persuaded by all these fake news until he decided to do a bit of investigation for himself. Only bigots are those who are too arrogant to change their opinion or belief even in the face of incontrovertible evidences or facts to the contrary.

You lots should not forget that as of 2019, Kenneth Okonkwo was still rooting for Buhari so much you people labelled him a traitor and disgrace, but now he is a champion of your Obidient movement. Same with some of you we can fish out all your posts here on Nairaland massively castigating Obi when he was the governor of Anambra as far back as 2013, only for him to suddenly in 2022 become a saviour with 'impeccable' achievements, so please spare us that "internet don't forget" thingy. See your posts below and stop picking on Reno for changing his mind

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

https://www.nairaland.com/4654717/betrayal-igbos-kenneth-okonkwo-blasted

kk2027:
Guy man Reno trying to dissociate from the same theory he championed

But thank God internet doesn't forget

Checkout his tweet attached to this comment

The same Farooq that said as a matter of fact that TInubu forged the certificate submitted to INEC and even went on to advance the possible reason, I bet he has realised his cock up and trying to do damage control albeit without letting go his conspiracy theories

NOETHNICITY:
You never ever agree with anything reasonable. Na your way

Bros, I am intrigued as much as you! This is so because this so called forgery proven or unproven benefits Obi not in anyway. The best that would happen is for Tinubu to be disqualified and the presidency automatically goes to Atiku as the second placed candidate, but I guess those headless mob don't give a toss as long as Tinubu is removed by any means. Their main issue has always been against the person of Tinubu as a major stumbling bock to the realization of an Ibo/IPOB presidency.

Wait however as they would fly out of their coop now and resume their shout of 'it was Atiku that dragged TInubu to America why are you mentioning Obi' yet they are the ones mostly fixated on the issue

DiscoverID:
Why are ibos crying more than the bereaved, typical Fulani slaves crying and licking atiku's asrss. They have abandoned obidafft, what a time to be alive.

Wetin concern Soyinka for this matter? Those who said you lot suffer serious inferiority/slavery complex are very correct. You treat white people as demigods whose words must be taken as the absolute truth. This person's opinion is not more weighty than yours and mine just because he is a Professor of Economics.

Whytelyon:
The shame is shaming Shoyinka already