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PoliticsRe: Wike And Miss University Pageant Contestants On A Tour In Rivers State (Photos) by Babacele: 12:07pm On Nov 23, 2017
policy12:
grin grin

Most everything be about politics..?

Thanking them for come to Rivers State in spite of the negative media the State suffers by virtue of its being an opposition State in Nigerian politics.
negative media caused by Wike . When you sponsor thugs to kill , maim and cause chaos is positive you will get?
CareerRe: My Plight With A Recruiting Firm by Babacele: 11:51am On Nov 23, 2017
amicable09:
Sure.

It's only familiar strangers that have the effrontery to be hard on me in this forum.

I'll choose gentility as always cheesy
But watch out, he'll fight me even harder.
chai! you just dashed me hot home made corn biscuits and chilled honey sweetened soy coladas ( soy+coconut milk , fresh unfermented palmy n a lil red wine). Will munch the ' familiar stranger' package till evening. How is you?
PoliticsRe: Willie Obiano's Acceptance Speech On His Re-Election As Anambra State Governor by Babacele: 7:45pm On Nov 19, 2017
NgeneUkwenu:
Good One From Mr. Obiano!
heared he has been a special guest these days at Aso Rock. So don't be surprised if he joins Pmb sooner or later.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithing: Christian Or Jewish by Babacele: 4:37pm On Nov 19, 2017
so balanced ,well written and correct biblically referenced article. But money can't really stop the gospel if we become the bible that the world reads. Nonetheless a true Christian must wholeheartedly support the church but not cajoled to do so. I think we can give not necessarily money alone but all God given resources at our disposals.
Op I must commend your beautiful perspective on tithing and the Nigerian pastors' approach to it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Thousands March Against Robert Mugabe In Harare (Photos) by Babacele: 11:57am On Nov 18, 2017
Mugabe is very lucky to be watching his retirement done for him by another this peacefully. Most dictators ain't this lucky. Before these murmurs turn berserk why not quietly leave the stage you had had all the time and resources in Zimbabwe to turn to Eldorado for about 4 decades but failed to. Well crocodile smiles ain't good especially for an old man . Bye Mugabe, you just aint coming back for being so poor a student of Machiavellian politics. Since you prefer Grace to the brotherhood, go enjoy her.
EducationRe: World Biggest MYSTERIES Scientists Still Can't Solve. by Babacele: 6:14am On Nov 18, 2017
nice and revealing.
CelebritiesRe: I Can't Marry A Virgin by Babacele: 5:46am On Nov 18, 2017
mtchew!
Art, Graphics & VideoRe: 517-Year-Old Leonardo Da Vinci's Portrait Of Christ Sells For ₦162.3b (Photo) by Babacele: 3:39am On Nov 17, 2017
Beautiful.
Christianity EtcRe: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. by Babacele: 3:13am On Nov 17, 2017
when I was hungry ,you fed me ....but Lord I didn't see you....As long as you do it to your fellow beings, you do it onto me.
Foreign AffairsRe: Army Removes Robert Mugabe From Office As Zimbabwean President, Detain Him by Babacele: 3:20pm On Nov 15, 2017
once upon a time. So long Mugabe.
PoliticsRe: "I Am Thankful Jonathan Sacked Me" – Farida Waziri by Babacele: 7:10am On Nov 13, 2017
Nonsense! pot calling kettle black! GEJ should have dealt with this stupid woman under whose watch the corrupt tried to frame Magu in vain; almost assassinated Ribadu when GEJ the then VP prevented their shaming Ribadu at NIPSS graduation in Kuru; protected high profile looters in government and in collaboration with Aondoaka- that 419 attorney general- frustrated the prosecution of all the thieves in government by messing with our judiciary which earned us insults especially from that UK Judge that handled ibori's case. A shameless woman.
PoliticsRe: Dont Be Deceived by Babacele: 6:45am On Nov 13, 2017
I agree with you totally but if we bring an dedicated young man from the middle belt, Akwa Ibom or an Hausa lady who is pro Nigerians will you vote them? Think before you answer me o.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 9:15pm On Nov 11, 2017
Akin1212:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_(esotericism)

There is nothing like life force in SCIENCE. Its based on religion which thrives on ignorance. The first picture proves it.

The second picture, however, should shut you up by the time you read the part I underlined. babacele

I hope the whole of NAIRALAND is reading. I guess we know who is an ignorant between me and babacele now.

OkaiCorne, what do you think? grin
while you rush to celebrate your victory at nothingness it is pertinent to point out your arrogantly stubborn grasp at ignorance. Why nobody has disagreed with your energy gospels which you are almost turning to elegies by your cocky narrow mindedness, we have always maintained that a higher and more intelligent Universal force, Energy or God is at work. While you have held to the profoundly illogic of an unintelligent and unconscious entity giving forth to intelligence and consciousness, we have frowned at the impossibility.
Several fields of have science have dealt extensively with the concept of life force which life many science concept has its conception at the spiritual laboratories of many students of mysteries of life from the pyramids of Egypt to the experimental tables of modern alchemists, metaphysics, etc

so when you say scientists , which are you referring to for there are many who bear that collective name?

There are many other sources that talk about " life force" as shown below:



life force
Also found in: Thesaurus, Medical,
Acronyms , Wikipedia .
life force
n.
See élan vital .
American Heritage® Dictionary of
the English Language, Fifth
Edition. Copyright © 2016 by
Houghton Mifflin Harcourt
Publishing Company. Published by
Houghton Mifflin Harcourt
Publishing Company. All rights
reserved.
é•lan vi•tal ( Fr. eɪ lɑ̃ viˈtal)
n.
(esp. in Bergsonian philosophy)
the vital or creative force in all
organisms that is responsible for
growth and evolution.
[1905–10; < French: literally, vital
ardor]
Random House Kernerman
Webster's College Dictionary, ©
2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright
2005, 1997, 1991 by Random
House, Inc. All rights reserved.
Thesaurus≠ Antonyms ≡Synonyms
Legend:
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Noun
1.
life force - (biology) a
hypothetical force (not physical or
chemical) once thought by Henri
Bergson to cause the evolution
and development of organisms
≡elan vital , vital force , vitality
↔biological science , biology - the
science that studies living
organisms
↔force - (physics) the influence
that produces a change in a
physical quantity; "force equals
mass times acceleration"
Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex
clipart collection. © 2003-2012
Princeton University, Farlex Inc.
life force noun
The vital principle or animating
force within living beings:
≡breath, divine spark , élan vital ,
psyche , soul , spirit , vital force ,
vitality .


https://www.gaia.com/article/11-daily-ways-increase-life-force-energy
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 5:38pm On Nov 11, 2017
Akin1212:
If you start accepting you don't know what you don't know, we may have a nice time discussing.

Check what you call LIFE FORCE BELOW. IT IS ENERGY
but you just said in a few posts above that there is nothing like Life force. didn't you? it is obvious who needs to learn here.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 3:53pm On Nov 11, 2017
Akin1212:
No scientist in the world will agree with you that there is anything called LIFE FORCE. I don't know why you want to go down this path. Even the link you brought up confirmed my point. There are GRAVITATIONAL FORCES, FRICTIONAL FORCES, HYDRO FORCES, etc etc etc, but which one is LIFE FORCES? Go and search all the databases you can lay your hands on in the world, you will never find it. I am trying to enlighten you that what you understand by life forces is called energy and you are arguing. I'm sorry sir, but there's no reason for me to continue. Would I argue science with someone who doesn't know it? What will that make me?

I don't need to read carefully whatever you are trying to explain from a point of view of someone who does not know science. I am going to repeat it again for educational purposes. A stillbirth is a child born DEAD, not a child that has not drawn its first breath. There are usually delays, and that is why 10 seconds is the standard time given in medicine to decide if there is a delay or not. I also told you that a child who has a delay in breathing is caused by dead energy and nurses or doctors have to go extra miles to make the baby breathe. PLEASE STOP SAYING WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.


I'm sorry I cannot let you keep abusing science, let's use something else to argue.
that you do not know means it doesn't exist? How many forces do you know?

So you don't know it is mere statistics when they say 10secs , and does that means after 10 seconds, the baby is a stillbirth we should pronounce the baby dead? but if we can make efforts to bring in the life force into her nko? please go learn more and widen your horizon.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 3:40pm On Nov 11, 2017
OkaiCorne:
The bolded part of what you just stated is about the parallel planes of existence I tried explaining earlier. Science can dismiss it as fiction for now...with time, the very same Science will prove it. I don't want to talk much...TIME is always the best judge.
bro materialist scientists can never understand if they do not be like a child. When two waves of the same frequency and wavelength meet oppositely there annihilation or nothingness occurs . Space and time are the reality on this plane.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 3:07pm On Nov 11, 2017
Akin1212:
Now, it's very clear that you don't understand anything from the epistle I typed.

First let me ask you, who told you that an UNBORN baby can breathe? Did you read that from me?


I said an unborn baby exchanges air through its mother's PLACENTA. And when the baby is born, it will need to draw its first breath as a consequence of change in temperature in the new environment(outside womb)

I have had enough of people trying to clamp down on science. GO and learn it first before you clamp down on it abeg, I cannot go another round of trying to teach people science.

Besides, you have shown that you're not even following what I am typing at all by what you typed up there.


Now read this and understand, STILLBIRTH is when a baby is born dead after 24 weeks and not when the baby is not breathing when born alive. A baby born alive but couldn't breathe and dies is not a stillbirth. You should understand these things instead of telling us what you think
it is clear you ain't interested in truth for you tried to make mess of my submissions hence I had to include links in my last post which you deliberately ignored, to upbraid your pride when you self acclaimed scientist threw shades at my knowledge of science when everything I have said I have been right.
I had drawn your attention to the fact it is the life force in breathing and not the brain or any muscle that sustains life, and that if this breath is denied a baby as it is being given to despite the presence of muscle and brain, it remains dead or a still birth and there have been several cases of babies born still and assumed dead until a nurse shocks it with a slap or other methods which allows it to taken in the breath of life that pervades the universe. It is you who needs to read carefully.
For example, because you don't understand the principle involved in the Bermuda phenomenon, you threw shade at the Omnipotent rather than asking questions. But there have been a lot of Bermudas even in our folklores of persons disappearing , coming back from strange lands after several years and claiming their disappearance and reappearance happens within few days.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 2:36pm On Nov 11, 2017
Akin1212:
Yes, learn the possibility and don't say it's impossible through ignorance. You don't have knowledge of science, you cannot tell us how it works.
true science look at a broad horizons of explanations and experiences which form hypothesis for further work on which statements of facts influenced by the realities of experiences by design or accidents are drawn. You are too narrow minded to understand that ,and that bro is unscientific but damn inimical to the evolution of science.
PoliticsRe: Anambra Election: 'Vote & Die' - IPOB Members Protest In Onitsha (Video/Photos) by Babacele: 12:55am On Nov 11, 2017
jpphilips:
Join them then I will tell you why
hehehehe
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 12:39am On Nov 11, 2017
Akin1212:
The basic explanation of what you don't know is science. The basic conclusion from your inference is lack of science. I have backed all my claims up with science from the beginning.

I have bolded some statements in your quotes above, please do check them as I am going to address them one by one again with science.

Firstly, When you give birth to an animal. An animal that was living through its mother placenta before birth will have lungs that were not functioning prior to birth. This means before birth, the oxygen and carbon dioxide exchange is taken care of by the mother's placenta. After birth, the baby needs to exchange with the environment for this purpose. I bet you don't know that. You have just been posting life force, life force. What is life force? There is nothing like life force when it comes to science, basic and advanced. A born baby which was using its mother's placenta for the exchange of gases in its body will have to draw its first breathe which happens almost all the time. But in the case it doesn't happen due to dead energy, you have to transmit energy to it.. The inability of this is not called stillbirth. Don't act like you know what you don't know

Now read this link to educate yourself, sir. https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002395.htm

The mother's placenta helps the baby "breathe" while it is growing in the womb. Oxygen and carbon dioxide flow through the blood in the placenta. Most of it goes to the heart and flows through the baby's body.

At birth, the baby's lungs are filled with fluid. They are not inflated. The baby takes the first breath within about 10 seconds after delivery. This breath sounds like a gasp, as the newborn's central nervous system reacts to the sudden change in temperature and environment.



Stillbirth is when the baby was born dead, not when the baby has not drawn its first breath. I cannot be arguing with someone who is falsifying pieces of information here and there because he does not know what he is saying.

If you will please go and learn science first and then if you want to use science to disprove my claims you can bring it back here but that's after you have learned it.

I must confess, I was disappointed and discouraged after your first few lines.
the baby do not breath before its birth no matter how you want to present and the supply of oxygen and blood through the mother doesn't substitute breathing which the young baby doesn't do except it has a life force through its first breath immediately when given birth to. please check the reference below:

m.parent24.com/parent24/Pregnant/FAQs/when-does-an-unborn-baby-start-to-breathe-20161014
When does an unborn baby start
to breathe? · Your womb baby is
constantly getting oxygen and
nutrients, yet he does not breathe
in ...


There are situations when a new born baby doesn't breath at all or show any sign of life unless an experienced expert quickly intervenes please what medical name is given to such - a baby born without breathing?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stillbirth"
In Germany a stillbirth is defined
as birth of a child of at least 500
g weight without blood circulation
or breath. Details for burial vary
amongst the federal states."
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele:
Akin1212:
The basic explanation of what you don't know is science. The basic conclusion from your inference is lack of science. I have backed all my claims up with science from the beginning.

I have bolded some statements in your quotes above, please do check them as I am going to address them one by one again with science.

Firstly, When you give birth to an animal. An animal that was living through its mother placenta before birth will have lungs that were not functioning prior to birth. This means before birth, the oxygen and carbon dioxide exchange is taken care of by the mother's placenta. After birth, the baby needs to exchange with the environment for this purpose. I bet you don't know that. You have just been posting life force, life force. What is life force? There is nothing like life force when it comes to science, basic and advanced. A born baby which was using its mother's placenta for the exchange of gases in its body will have to draw its first breathe which happens almost all the time. But in the case it doesn't happen due to dead energy, you have to transmit energy to it.. The inability of this is not called stillbirth. Don't act like you know what you don't know

Now read this link to educate yourself, sir. https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002395.htm

The mother's placenta helps the baby "breathe" while it is growing in the womb. Oxygen and carbon dioxide flow through the blood in the placenta. Most of it goes to the heart and flows through the baby's body.

At birth, the baby's lungs are filled with fluid. They are not inflated. The baby takes the first breath within about 10 seconds after delivery. This breath sounds like a gasp, as the newborn's central nervous system reacts to the sudden change in temperature and environment.



Stillbirth is when the baby was born dead, not when the baby has not drawn its first breath. I cannot be arguing with someone who is falsifying pieces of information here and there because he does not know what he is saying.

If you will please go and learn science first and then if you want to use science to disprove my claims you can bring it back here but that's after you have learned it.

I must confess, I was disappointed and discouraged after your first few lines.
learnt what? ignorance? that unconsciousness and unintelligence can give birth to consciousness and intelligence?
BusinessRe: Invest And Export Timber ( Kosso Wood ) And Earn Dollar Into Your Account. by Babacele: 6:10am On Nov 10, 2017
remele2:
Hello house ,
Please i want to find out the possibility of sourcing for kosso wood and finding a buyer for it immidiatly locally ?
you can get in ondo,kogi, nasarawa, fct, niger, taraba etc go to sawmill at ikorodu before ijede road, ibafo area or ask sawmillers where koso deports are to get local buyers. you can also get buyers on line but be careful.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 5:54am On Nov 10, 2017
when you give birth to an animal and it hasnt taken the first breath - life force, it becomes a stillbirth and may never come into being if urgent interventions are not employed to make it breath. the brain and muscles you have alluded to are there but wouldnt save the animal. This force pervades the universe and gives meaning to life. it is beyond anybody's control but can be cooperated with.
It is an insult to say that the processes are not well coordinated. how? and i shall prove to you that there would be an imbalance with greaT consequences when you "COORDINATE" these well planned processes. Im challenging you right away to expose the so called coordination here .
Science was formed from the experiences of others and the observation of certain natural occurences and patterns in both organic and the inorganic world including occultism,alchemy, as well as cosmic or spiritual laws. so how many of these laws do you know?
im sure you know that water quenches fire but to all adepts water brings forth fire and light and it is not a negation of the fire quenching qualities of water but an independent manifestation . so dont flaunt half baked science as the universal truth when there a million scientific laws you dont know. is not disturbing to your logic that while looking at the cup as half empty and ascribe only evil to the divine intelligence you have refused to attribute to Her the beauty ,forms, consciousness and intelligence to Him? can an unintelligent and unconscious entity give forth intelligence and consciousness. It is a God of our realizations and while you are entitled to your not realizing IT as athe universal intelligence, some other persons have experienced Him especially when all material scientists' claims have closed the doors of opportunity to more life on such persons. These persons have looked up to the heavens for some interventions and the Divine intelligence, the X factor, has surprised us on many occasions by the magic of His solutions. Can you tell such persons that He does not exist? This is a reality that baffles the actualities of material science.
For my ex-lover, as it is in chemical bonding so it goes in marital affairs and relationships: we weren't just meant for each other. Thanks. ;
Akin1212:
i do not need google to think correctly . the best manmade machine on earth is no march to his maker- man who has billions of more sophisticated machines to be churned ouut from the limitless possibilities the divine intelligence has blessed him with. mention any mention any machine that is as sophisticated as human brain and mind and i will tell you you havent seen nothing yet.
can nothing gives birth to something? take time to study the atom and discover a world of pattern,forms,color and intelligence.
Because you don't understand it you concluded it's a factor beyond our control? Never ever say what you don't know. It's a sin against knowledge. And I am still repeating it to you again that not all the processes you have been mentioning kill microorganisms, and the ones that do, do so chemically. Since it happens chemically, it needs an amount of chemical energy to take place. If there is no energy, it will not take place. Whether God is there or not. Energy doesn't depend on the influence of any god. The process that kills the microorganisms in our body is not well coordinated, that's another blunder and fallacy from you. Do you need to go an read about it before we continue? I'll give you the chance to do so.

That being said, man is not the most sophisticated machine in the world. The abusers of science like you will keep saying what they don't know. Who told you that man is the most sophisticated machine on earth? You should google this to see that. To start with, we are not machines, stop using figurative descriptions. We are talking reality here. We are just a bunch of non-living constituents connected by energy interactions. Physical energy, chemical, heat energy etc. And those energies are converted from the universal energy. You need to understand this before you say anything about biological processes. If you don't have a deep knowledge about biological processes you cannot argu it. All you know is that there is a force(which is totally wrong) and then you want to describe what you don't know with the force.

Sorry for your lover who dumped you. To me, both of you are the same. You are both coming from different directions but will arrive at the God junction.
Nobody controls breathe, whether you're sleeping or not. Two types of muscle controls breathe and the overall control comes from the brain, the respiratory centre. I see where you are coming from, my friend. Your lack of understanding of bioilogical processes has blinded you. You obviously think God is the one doing all these things? grin

I will give you time to go and learn these things before we continue.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele:
OkaiCorne:
The person you are arguing with is a Scientist with a background in Biology and Chemistry. If you don't give him links to articles from global leading scientists...He will still disagree with you.
but those examples I employed above simple or common knowledge. Experience has taught fulanis for example how to use a culture or a small quantity of soured milk to change a bowl of fresh milk to yoghurt. so what rocket science is in that incubation? When I'm bit free this evening I shall answer him. can you please quote me where I said a force is responsible for yoghurt making? I said while you sleep , you are not the one controlling your processes but a force whose existence who have laboured so hard to deny. Do you plan to dream the dreams you experience Mr scientist? can you control what you dream about? What is the science behind dreams?
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 9:39am On Nov 07, 2017
Akin1212:
1)You are deliberately handing me victory as I said earlier. Force is not a conscious property. If there is a force killing microorganisms involuntarily(Which is wrong) why does it know when to stop and when to act? There are millions of microorganisms in the body that doesn't get killed at all, why is the force skipping these microorganisms? You are treading a wrong path in your knowledge and it's not a good thing at all. Albeit, the killing of microorganisms is not done by a force. It is done by chemicals which our body produces as a result of the invasion. Our body knows that there is an invasion and it produces substances which kill the invader. This is a voluntary action.

2)Lol, why are you turning science upside down? Before we continue this journey, are you a scientist? I am not going to allow you explain what you don't know. It's bad for knowledge. The production of Yoghurt is not a manifestation of any sort as a result of any imbalance, neither is the HIV virus a manifestation. Do not abuse science, I am not going to allow that to happen.

3)This world was not intelligently made, look around you. don't look at the man-made structures, just look. You will see that the world was badly made, we are only trying to make it look good. Energy just formed something and it didn't even know it. Do you know you are made up of nonliving matter? For you to know that everything is energy, try to run 100 miles without eating for 2 days, and let's see if you will not collapse despite that you have a God.
come off it bro. a factor beyond your control is responsible for your biological processes whether it is breathing, digestion or sleeping. Call it chemical or whatever the well coordinated processes kill the microorganisms and spare some and like a well built engine everypart works fine according to the builder's original plan. Why it is like that the engine may never know. Even when sleep, these processes go on without your permission. Oh tell me that it is not an imbalance in the number of a particular colony of bacteria in a quantity of fresh milk that gives yoghurt or that the introduction of a foreign germ ,virus, into our body causes breakdown or imbalance in us we tag HIV?
2. Tell me the most sophisticated and complicated machine on earth - man, is not intelligently made? photosynthesis, DNA structures, electric fish, the eagle , weathering, Rainfall , the planetary bodies etc are a result of an intelligent and unconscious energy?

3. There are different forms of the manifestation of the Universal intelligent force, energy or God. Funning enough I was dumped by a religionist Christian lover few months ago when I referred to God as a Universal intelligent Force. I really damn in love with her but she feels God is a robot meant for only Christians definition alone. So I ask again you again when you sleep are the one controlling your breathing?
PoliticsRe: Time To Re-channel Our Collective Resentment To The Thieves Among Us by Babacele: 8:44am On Nov 07, 2017
jpphilips:
The internet you said? think about it, what does that average Nigerian youth use the internet for if not following Kardashians on IG?
The internet age like you rightly said did nothing to improve their reasoning abilities, how can a sane man believe that a lunatic like Nnamdi Kanu can break Nigeria with nothing but vituperations over the mic?
How can a sane person bathe salt water to cure Ebola?
How can a sane person believe the military that took drug donations from the same pharmacy they shop from, lace theirs with monkey pox?
The number of idiots in this country calls for celestial intervention, even the mad people on our streets won't see any difference with the average Nigerian.
hahahaha ....you are wicked.
HealthRe: Bed Bugs Are Unpleasant But What Exactly Do You Know About Them? by Babacele: 8:38am On Nov 07, 2017
thought you were going to tell us it cures cancer. lolz. nice one Op. Now I know the zoological name of bedbugs.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 2:21am On Nov 07, 2017
Akin1212:
1) Your point was that there is a force that kills microorganisms. You stated categorically that the force which kills all microorganisms do because it was created to do so. But the force doesn't kill microorganisms most times. Why?
I specifically asked you about the death microorganisms not mishaps in the environment, we are still coming there. Don't bury me before I die.

2) You speak of imbalance, what is this imbalance and how is it caused? You must know what you are talking about before you venture into it.

3)Imbecile_ energy, how did you know that this energy is an imbecile_? Imbecile_ is a term used to categorize people with low IQ. But this energy is not even conscious, how can something not conscious be imbecile_? You don't even know what energy is, like I said earlier, go back to pages 2,3, and 4.

4) How could you see this world and call it intelligent manifestations? There is nothing about the world that is intelligent, have you seen the Bermuda triangle? Is that an intelligent design to you?
Or you're confusing artificial intelligence to nature? If you were to create the world, would you create it with the tragedies it came with?

You don't have to do anything before tragedy can strike you.
you are not even aware that you are killing some microorganisms in your body processes. That you are not doing the killing deliberately but just found yourself doing it. A force more than you is responsible .
2. The ecology of the relationship between all living and non living things is guided by a law of balance. A deviation brings a manifestation either pleasant or unpleasant like allowing our hypothetical germ above some fertile grounds in our affairs which can lead to an health food like yoghurt or ill health like HIV.

3. when you say an unintelligent and unconscious energy can create intelligent and conscious universe and its not even aware of it ,isn't that worse than imbecility? what is consciousness? Energy is the ability to do work or bring forth manifestations . Being able to bring forth manifestations is a deliberate attribute of a conscious intelligence.
4. Everything about the world is intelligent. Even the chaos that comes with nature has some intelligence behind their being. For example ,isnt man intelligent? Also, from the structure of the micro world as represented by an atom to the the galaxies all show that there is an intelligent force behind these manifestations.
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 5:20pm On Nov 06, 2017
Akin1212:
Yes to the bolded. The Energy can bring all these. That is why it not intelligent. It doesn't even know itself as energy. I have repeated this over and over again. Must there be a creator? A creator must know that it is creating something but this energy doesn't. It is the sole of existence. It powers everything, everything in the universe and multiverse by expansion. Nobody is controlling it and that's why we see some bad manifestations most times.

"HIS" laws, how exactly did you know he is him?

Before we move on, you haven't answered my question. I'll repost it here.

Have you seen anybody who died of bacteria or viral infection before? Answer this question and I will provide a subtle answer.
Yes I have seen a lot of persons who have suffered one form of mishap or the other for bringing about an imbalance in the environment knowingly or unknowingly. And you or me too try to cause this imbalance , we may pay for it too unless a balance is restored by a experienced person be it our pastor, doctor or healer.

So an slowpoke energy can give forth to the most marvelous ,intelligent manifestation s, rythyms as well seeming chaos itself? If I like I can employ His feminine or mother nature or attributes to qualify Her as well as Its Neutal qualities .
Creation is a conscious process that an unconscious force, being or energy cannot bring forth.

Experience is the only knowledge and reexperience confers wisdom. To you and I a piece of metal with electrical charges means evil but to the adept it means light, fridge, radio etc.
So how do know that the creative energy of the universe is unaware of Its existence if you who can't control your metabolisms is aware of your being or existence?
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 4:04pm On Nov 06, 2017
Akin1212:
You don't get the point of this discussion, do you? I personally think you are handing me the victory unaware to you.

I have explained this your "Force" to your apprentice Okaicorne as energy. It is what controls everything in the universe and the multiverse. But it is not self-aware and does not know itself is called energy. It does not require itself to be worshipped and praised, it doesn't give a Bleep. You need to go back to pages 2, 3 and 4 to see the lectures. It is the only logical explanation and not a creator.

The energy or force obviously does not care about the microorganisms, neither does it care about humans or anybody. If you think we humans have this force that kills microorganisms, then why do people still die of infections from microorganisms?

Let me give you an instance, have you seen anybody who died of bacteria or viral infection before? Answer this question and I will provide a subtle answer.
nobody is my apprentice. I'm only interested in raising the bar that this beautiful post of yours presents. I never said humans do have that Absolute power but only the Absolute does. can a force unaware of itself bring about intelligent, simple, complex, seeming incomprehensible and chaotic manifestations? If this Energy isn't a creator, so what is the Creator? I'm not even talking about whether He wants to be praised or worshipped. But His laws must be obeyed for when we do we are good but any imbalances in our actions can attracts certain manifestations that are unpleasant like living unhygienically.
EducationRe: 20 Signs You’re Succeeding In Life – Even If You Don’t Feel You Are. by Babacele: 3:47pm On Nov 06, 2017
nice
Christianity EtcRe: Second amendment-> How do you find God, By intuition or by Logic? by Babacele: 3:38pm On Nov 06, 2017
Akin1212:
Lol, you really should ask your compatriot. I am a novice when it comes to science, in fact, I studied Biochemistry. And sir, talking, breathing does not kill any microorganism. My involuntary actions that kill bacteria in my stomach and my mouth are still being controlled by my brain, such digestion and the production of saliva. My brain is part of me and I am responsible for that action.

But is it a problem for people who believe in an eternal creator not to have a sound logic? How does the killing of bacteria or microorganism relate to who created the planes of existence?

What do you think these microorganisms will think if they know that the eternal creator created things in such a way that human beings kill them for their own good? You think if they know that there is someone called the creator and he did all these, they will be happy with the creator? Logic can't work with God, take it anywhere, that's the main reason for his non-existence. Why is it very hard for you people to understand in this simple concept?
but were you informed by your brain that such microorganisms shall be killed in the course of these processes? I bet No sir. you were and are still not aware apart from what you were taught about it in school. this force works without taking permission from you sir. Why the microorganisms have to go that we may not know but it doesn't deny the fact a force beyond you Akin's control exists and controls some of your actions. True or false?

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