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Some of the tapes I have heard them myself and I cannot be Silent on it atleast not now. If we are Silent in our discourse and We go challenging other faiths of heresy when our so called Christian brothers are propagating falsehood to our face.

Ezekiel 13

1And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

2Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD;
3Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!


ezekiel 33 7So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

8When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

9Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

10Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?

11Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?


When I heard the tapes I was so sad and I was angered that I wasted time arguing with people from another BOOK when people that used the same book were completely in Heresy and are waxing stronger in it.

I have attended Churches but I did not know that they could be this dangerous. I watched part of Juanita Bynum In between the Sheets and Teach me how to love and this is pornography repackaged.

Juanita was in Ghana to mark the 50 years of Ghana. Should we keep silent? No very Big No Juanita say she just has to be the Dr Ruth of Christendom.

I have read some articles and I discarded them as wrong and I will not post it here. Stimulus my aim is not to stair hate but to give the sign post of this Charlatans.

Their are other people that are not known in Africa and they will think that she is really a prophetess. I know a false Prophet when I see one but that people will follow and I will not say a thing God forbid. Jeremiah 1 verse

15 For, lo, I will call all the families of the kingdoms of the north, saith the LORD; and they shall come, and they shall set every one his throne at the entering of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all the walls thereof round about, and against all the cities of Judah.

16 And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.

17 Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.

18 For, behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city, and an iron pillar, and brasen walls against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land.

19 And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the LORD, to deliver thee.

I have a write up on Meyer but I have not yet dealt with it because I am not convinced. I am however of the opinion that she is too extravagant but that is my opinion. I have listened to preachings too and I dont agree with it. But I will listen well before I can come here.

I have info on benny Hinn Infact God so loves this Guy that he sent an Old man to preach to him. I have seen where Benny Hinn was seen with people smoking dope.

Believe me brother I am saddened and I just pray I enter into my holy faith as soon as possible so that I will stop talking and acting.

I have seen by the book and The Spirit of the Most High that no where did Jesus go into Hell.
He became a Dead soul as Adam was before The Spirit Quickened the soul of Adam (this is the man aspect of Jesus).

For apostle said for the Spirit that raise up Jesus will also raise us up

1 Corinthians 6:14
And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2 Corinthians 4:14
Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

Galatians 1:1
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead


GEN 2 verse 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

When Jesus Died on the Cross His Spirit(ETERNAL LIFE) Left his body and Entered Heaven. remember this day you shall be with me in Paradise.

On the third day He was risen and now sits at the right hand of the father.

For God has Exalted his name above every other name at the mention of his name all knee shall bow.

For by him were all things made both in heaven and on earth.

Selah

My 2 brothers Batu and Stimulus

You have your opinion I can never force you please stick to it if you will. I am not inerested in winning any argument. This thread is about false prophets and their teachings. If I am one please Expose me I will Repent.

Selah

THE DOCTRINE AND THE MAN CREFLO DOLLAR

(Creflo Dollar, Audio clip from, "The Bible answer-man," Hank Hanegraaff July 10, 2003)

"I have equality with God, chats my way of thinking. Now somebody says, "Well, it's hard to think that way," Well, keep saying it, "I have equality with God" talk yourself into it! You've talked yourself into other things!"


The following are excerpts from Creflo Dollar's program Jesus' Growth into Sonship, dated December 8, 15, 2002.

"Here's what I want you to get here. If Jesus came as God, then why did God have to anoint Him? If Jesus - see God's already been anointed. If Jesus came as God, then why did God have to anoint Him? Jesus came as a man, that's why it was legal to anoint him. God doesn't need anointing, He is anointing. Jesus came as a man, and at age 30 God is now getting ready to demonstrate to us, and give us an example of what a man, with the anointing, can do." -- Creflo Dollar

Creflo has forgotten that the Anointed one is his name also abi does he not read the bible?

"Jesus didn't come as God, he came as a man, and he did not come perfect. Perfect in the sense that he didn't need to be added to." -- Creflo Dollar

True or False?
[b]
"But Jesus didn't show up perfect, he grew into his perfection. You know Jesus, in one scripture in the Bible he went on a journey, and he was tired. You better hope God don't get tired. Isaiah 50 says, 50, 60, somewhere, says where we have a God who fainteth not, neither is weary (Isa. 40:28). But Jesus did, if he came as God and he got tired, he says he sat down by the well 'cause he was tired. Boy we're in trouble. And somebody said, well, Jesus came as God. Well how many of you know the Bible says God never sleeps, nor slumbers. And yet in the book of Mark we see Jesus asleep in the back of the boat.
Y'all please listen to me, please listen to me. This ain't no heresy. I am not some false prophet, I am just reading this thing out to you the Bible. I am just telling you all these fantasy preachers have been preaching all of this stuff for all of these years and we bought the package. And the question mark was there. And we are now - faith can never go past that question mark, and we've tolerated and put it up, put up with things that we had authority over" , -- Creflo Dollar

[/b]

This Guy is what the bible calls a LovePeddler. I personally listened to this tape over and over again.

"Some people get mad when I talk about money, they say, 'Whenever I see Dollar he's talking about money!' That's because you ain't got none! I ain't talking to you!"
(Creflo Dollar, TBN, Praise-A-Thon, April 1, 2004

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Church of the Mighty Dollar
With houses of worship in Atlanta, New York City, Australia, Europe, Nigeria, South Africa, and Britain, World Changers Church International is
one of the largest and fastest-growing churches in the nation. Led by Pastor Creflo A. Dollar, a flamboyant African-American preacher, WCCI has some 25,000 members and an annual budget of more than $70 million. His message, known as "prosperity gospel," implores followers to enrich
themselves in every way, spiritually and financially, through the teachings of his church. Indeed, Pastor Dollar, whom critics have dubbed "Pass The
Dollar" and "Cashflow Dollar" for his ostentatious displays of wealth, is not shy about his success. He owns two Roll-Royces and flies the country in
a Gulfstream-3 private jet. Fellow Atlanta ministers, schooled in the humble tradition of Reverend Martin Luther King, have criticized the 43-year-old Dollar for putting money before ministry. WCCI members can tithe online by setting up automatic account withdrawals managed by the church.
But Dollar's message is resonating with many evangelicals, especially poor blacks drawn to the idea of pulling themselves out of poverty because the
Bible willed it so. A new church in rented space in New York's Madison Square Garden has drawn 5,000 members in the last three months. WCCI is
adding between 2,000 and 3,000 members per year. It will soon launch a Spanish-language church led by a Mexican priest, targeted at Atlanta's
booming Hispanic immigrant population ("Business Week Online," May 23, 2005). [TBC: "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows" (1 Timothy 6:10).]

@Ishmeal

Pray you find the truth I have found out your faith and that you take authorty from a different book.

I have seized to Argue with Moslems.

@ Stimulus

It looks as if you Just did not get me well or you failed woefully to read what I said in my post.

TD JAKES IS A MAN THAT BELIEVES NOT IN THE TRINITY AS THE BIBLE PUTS ITS.

IF I SAY WATER CAN EXIST IN THREE FORMS SOLID LIQUID GAS. I MEAN THAT THE SAME WATER IS PLAYING THE SAME ROLE HERE. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE USES THIS ANALOGY TO SUPPORT THE ISSUE OF MANIFESTATIONS.

THIS IS VERY VERY FALSE AND HAS NO BASES IN SCRIPTURE.

IT LOOKS AS IF YOUR PHYSICS OR CHEMISTRY IS NOT CORRECT. MATTER CAN ONLY EXIST IN 3 FORMS CHECK OUT THE EXAMPLE OF WATER ABOVE.

If you read your Old testament well you see that The party was what I mentioned. When Moses moved to the mountain who did he leave the Children to. I was using The Mode of worship of the OLD TESTAMENT TO HIT HOME THE POINT.

THE PRAYER (YOU CAN PRAY A HUNDRED TIMES NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE JESUS)
THE LEADERSHIP (MEDIATOR) YES MOSE WAS THE SOLE MEDIATOR BUT HE HAD ASSISTANCE. JUST AS JESUS IS THE MEDIATOR. PERIOD


I think i have made myself clear.

@busygirl

You have not seen anything yet. Wait till you see when they begin to have sex in Church on the stages. And they will call it "practical Christianity"

Shei you say that some people are Extreme Just wait and see.

@ Stimulus

The reason why we can not just play dumb to a pastor's stand on Trinity is that this is the basis of the Christian Faith. It will mean that God was Play Acting.

The Very Essence Of God is trinity. The God that the Jews worship is a triune God no mincing word with this issue.

But is such a concept Jewish? Is it not some Gentile or pagan concept that has somehow crept into our Holy Scriptures as some extreme liberalists would like to tell us? No, this was and still is a Jewish conception of God creating and dealing with His creation and His people Israel in a triune way.


This quotation bears it out: Exodus 19 starts with the words, "In the third month."

This is explained by the words of

Proverbs 22:20, "Have I not written to thee excellent(Hebrew, threefold) things in counsels and knowledge." On this Rabbi Joshua bar Nehemiah said that this is the Torah whose letters are threefold, alf, bet, g(i)ml, and everything is a Trinity:

The Torah is trinitarian, for it is composed of the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings.

The Mishna (talmudical learning) is a trinity composed of talmud (learning) halakhot(daily Jewish laws) and haggadot (historical items).

The mediator consisted of a trinity of Miriam, Moses, & Aaron.

Prayers are a[b] trinity of morning, afternoon, and evening prayers[/b].

Israel is a trinity [/b]consisting of [b]priests, Levites and Israelites.

The name Moses in Hebrew consists of three letters. He is of the tribe of Levi, which again is in the Hebrew three letters. from the seed of the Patriarchs who are a trinity of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob;

in the third month which is Sivan, after Nisan & Iyar on mount[b] Sin [/b]whose letters are three as it is written. "And they rested in the wilderness of Sin.".(Midrash Tanhuma on Exodus 19)

If, according to rabbis', God has made everything and arranged everything in a trinitarian way. then it must also be Jewish and biblical to know that God, Himself is a Trinity. This He is and has revealed Himself as the Savior, Messiah, and Son of God in the person of the Lord Jesus, the Messiah. He then sent down the Holy Spirit, the Ruakh Hakodesh, on the Disciples in the third month, of the Feast of Shavuoth, the feast of perfection, celebrated after counting seven times seven.


But. can three be one? Does not common sense rebel against such a statement? Must we not state categorically that God is either One or Three? Not so. As a matter of fact everything you come in contact with is not a mathematical concept of one, but usually an item composed of a trinity. The ancient Greek philosopher reasoned out the theory of atoms by simply watching a black cow, eating green grass, and then giving white milk. All things are composed of millions and billions of atoms; but the atom itself is a trinity of a proton. electron and nucleus. Perhaps we could best express it in the words of Dr. Henry Heydt:

In Romans 1:20 Paul uses the creation of the kosmos as demonstrating this Godhead (theiotes]. The universe , is an absolute triunity of space, time, and matter. Each of these in turn is an absolute triunity. Space consists of length, breadth, and depth or height:

Even time is future, present, and past;

Matter is energy, motion, and phenomena.

Here we have not merely an illustration of three in one --- as in the case of light, heat, and ultra-violet rays of the sunbeam, or the manifestation of H2O as liquid, ice, and steam --- but an absolute trinity composed of three absolute triunities.


It Just saying that you are a Scientist you Dont Believe in matter!!!!

"O God, do not keep silence; do not hold your peace or be still, O God! For behold, your enemies make an uproar; those WHO HATE YOU have raised their heads. They lay crafty plans against your people; they consult together against your treasured ones. They say, ‘Come, let us wipe them out as a nation; let the name of Israel be remembered no more!’ For they conspire with one accord; AGAINST YOU they make a covenant - the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, Moab and the Hagrites, Gebal and Ammon and Amalek, Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; Asshur also has joined them; they are the strong arm of the children of Lot. Selah Do to them as you did to Midian, as to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon, who were destroyed at En-dor, who became dung for the ground. Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna, who said, ‘Let us take possession for ourselves of the pastures of God.’ O my God, make them like whirling dust, like chaff before the wind. As fire consumes the forest, as the flame sets the mountains ablaze, so may you pursue them with your tempest and terrify them with your hurricane! Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek your name, O LORD. Let them be put to shame and dismayed forever; let them perish in disgrace, that they may know that you alone, whose name is the LORD, are the Most High over all the earth. Psalm 83:1-18

The implication This Psalm has on the Muslim claims is quite devastating. According to this Psalm the Ishmaelites, at least from the period between 1000-400 BC., were part of the nations who hated both the true God and his covenant people. The Psalmist asks God to bring utter destruction upon these nations so that they may come to the realization that Yahweh alone is the Most High God over the earth. This means that if the Muslim claims regarding the Meccan Arabs being descendents of Ishmael are correct, then the Allah of pre-Islamic Mecca was a false god. He couldn’t have been the same God worshiped by Jews and Christians.

@Horus

I don't know if you will read this because you seem to have everything to say about almost all things on Nairaland, You keep Quoting from one source.

Well You said that the bible is fallible and you used the ACCOUNTS to Expound this is

Please Look at below

2 Samuel 10:18

18And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there

1 Chronicles 19:18
18But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host.

I want to now see that in samuel account says there were 700 chariots but did not give the exact[b] figure of MEN.[/b]
The Chronicles gives the exact number of MEN as 7000 and Does Not say The Exact Number Of Chariots.

So please Look for other Contradictions. Note that there will be account based. I am a tall man sometimes when I want to describe somebody I will always say "that short Guy?" while the person will not know who I am talking about because he or she is Shorter than the Third person I am talking about because I am a 6''6, and is confused because she or he see this person I see short as tall.

I wont because of I want to say the same thing lie to you say a man that is 5 feet 7 is tall. Account based issue in scripture will seem to contradict but you must cross check with other accounts and I see what I write not what I am told to Write. There however other places in the bible where people were told to Write.

The Bible has wittinesses between itself, It is not a reference book it is The Book You dont read it to look for facts and figures you will enter into Heresy as many have done.

You don't take your own knowledge when reading Scripture. You must take your Zero Head to it. It is a stone that will Crush anything that comes its way it will serves as a stepping stone to anyone that TRUST TO STEP ON WITH THE FEAR OF THE LORD.

@Stimulus

TD Jake is very far Away and I dont know what Anyone will gain from a Campaign "Smear". However He made him self clear that The Manifestations he talked about is that One being playing three Roles.

The bible is clear on this, Jesus was Equating himself to God, When he said "I and the father are one"


HE CALLES CREFLO DOLLAR ONE OF "GODS FINEST"

I will do a piece on Creflo soon.

Selah

@babyosisi


I have made myself clear on this issue.

There are true Men of God you dont hear. The doctrines they preach is scriptural. I have been burnt by this false preachers.

Cant you see that Jesus identified the false preachers of his days?

T. D. Jakes grew up in a Oneness Pentecostal denomination which denies the essential Christian doctrine of the Trinity [The Oneness Pentecostal denomination was declared a heresy by the Assemblies of God when it took organizational form in 1917]. When asked by Christian leaders to clarify if he believes in the Trinity [As defined in the Athanasian Creed] he will not clear up this matter. He refuses to give a clear answer as to what he means by "manifestations" when referring to the Trinity. Here is a portion of the Doctrinal Statement from the Potters House Website:

We believe in one God who is eternal in His existence, Triune in His manifestation, being both Father, Son and Holy Ghost AND that He is Sovereign and Absolute in His authority.

We believe in the Father who is God Himself, Creator of the universe. (Gen 1:1; John 1:1)

We believe that Jesus is the Son of God. (Col 2:9)

He suffered, died, was buried, and rose from the dead for our total salvation (Luke 3:21-22; Philippians 2:5-11).

We believe that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Him (John 3:36; John 3:31-32; John 14:6).

We believe in the Holy Spirit who is God indwelling, empowering and regenerating the believer. This Holy Spirit is called the Comforter. The Spirit of Truth (John 14:17, 14:26)


So, given his background and his lack of clarification on this matter when asked by Christian leaders, there is justification to label him as a non-Trinitarian until he explains otherwise.

The doctrine of the Trinity is essential to our faith, without it there is no faith. If a person denies the Trinity they are in fact non-Christian by this very belief. This is not a trivial matter, why will he not be clear and define the terms rather than mislead by his of semantics? If he believes that the Trinity as defined in the Athanasian Creed is not scriptural, why not just say so publicly?


T. D. Jakes denies the essential Christian doctrine of the Trinity. His view is one God playing three different roles or manifestations. He believes in a god that appears in three different "manifestations." Let me quote him, ", One God, but manifest in, three different ways, Father in creation, Son in redemption, Holy Spirit in regeneration ." Like one man who is a pastor, father, and husband, this view is called modalism and it is heresy.
T. D. Jakes:


"God--There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three Manifestations: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."


Questioner: My first question would be, the Trinity would be defined as one God Who's revealed Himself in three distinct Persons, each co-equal and co-eternal. How important is it for the believing Christian to hold to this belief?


T. D. Jakes:[b] I think it's very, very significant that we first of all study the Trinity apart from salvation, and first of all that we embrace Christ and come to Him and come to know Who He is. Having come to know Who He is, then we begin to deal with the Trinity, which I believe is a very complex issue. The Trinity, the term Trinity, is not a biblical term, to begin with. It's a theological description for something that is so beyond human comprehension that I'm not sure that we can totally hold God to a numerical system. The Lord said, "Behold, O Israel, the Lord thy God is one, and beside Him there is no other." When God got ready to make a man that looked like Him, He didn't make three. He made one man. However, that one man had three parts. He was body, soul and spirit. We have one God, but He is Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Spirit in regeneration. It's very important that we understand that, but I think that the first thing that every believer needs to do is to approach God by faith, and then having approached Him by faith, then they need to sit up under good teaching so that they can begin to understand who the God is that they have believed upon."[/b]

("Living by the Word" on KKLA, hosted by John Coleman, Aug. 23, 1998)

"CRI Coordinator of Research Sam Wall spoke over the telephone with Pastor Lawrence Robinson, Director of Ministry Affairs at the Potter's House, inquiring about their view of the Trinity. Robinson affirmed that Jakes denies the biblical position of the Trinity, at one point saying that the Roman Catholic Church introduced the concept of three gods. Robinson gave some modalistic illustrations of the Trinity and said that Jakes has always held this position. Twice after that, Wall e-mailed Pastor Robinson to confirm the content of their discussion. Robinson never responded. Wall noted in his e-mail, "Should I not hear from you by e-mail, I will assume that these statements by you are correct."


(The Man, His Ministry, And His Movement: Concerns About The Teachings Of T. D. Jakes)


Warren Smith: "T.D. Jakes is very popular in the evangelical world, and some people say he denies the doctrine of the Trinity."


Norman Geisler: "That's correct. He does. It's an old, old heresy in the Christian church called modalism. I know T.D. Jakes is very popular, and I know people don't like his ministry being called a cult, but it is. It would have been condemned by any orthodox church down through the centuries."


Warren Smith: "What does it say about the evangelical church that these heretical teachings have been allowed to creep in so readily, and even when they are identified as extra-biblical, or cultic, a lot of evangelicals just wink?"


Norman Geisler: "It says the evangelical church in America is about 3,000 mile wide and an inch deep. Doctrinally, we are very shallow. In North Carolina we are in what is called the Bible Belt, but our problem is that we don't have enough Bible under our belts. We have enough religion to makes us susceptible, but not enough doctrine to make us discerning. You can't recognize error until you can recognize the truth. I'm told that when government experts want to train people to recognize counterfeit currency, they study genuine currency. The same is true with doctrine."


("30 Minutes With Norman Geisler" World Newspaper Publishing)


"T.D. Jake's letter completely fails to answer charges that he denies the doctrine of the Trinity. Everything he says could be affirmed by any good leader of the (Oneness, vehemently anti-Trinitarian) United Pentecostal Church, for although he distinguishes the Son from the Father, he does so only by distinguishing the human Son from the divine Father—the classic United Pentecostal belief, as documented in my book "Jesus Only" Churches (Zondervan, 1997) and defended in many UPC publications, such as David Bernard's The Oneness of God. Until he clearly affirms that Father, Son, and Spirit are eternally distinct Persons, not merely that they are "three" and "one"—never defining his terms—he should be considered anti-Trinitarian and by no means welcomed to preach in Christian circles."


(E. Calvin Beisner, Author of God in Three Persons (Tyndale House, 1984) and "Jesus Only" Churches (Zondervan, 1997). Associate Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies Covenant College, Lookout Mountain, Georgia)


"In his rebuttal Jakes never affirms an ontological Trinity but only an economic one. He speaks of different functions the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit perform, but then he clarifies that he does not believe in three Gods, by which it is fairly clear he means Persons. Even the illustration of H20 taking the forms of ice, water, and steam says nothing about three persons, only three manifestations, and is in fact a common illustration used by modalists to explain their view. The key tip-off that Jakes is a dyed-in-the-wool modalist is his unwavering insistence — both before our article was published and even in response to our article — on using the word manifestations rather than persons in regard to the Trinity. Sabellius consistently avoided the use of the term “persons” (Greek: hypostasis) in favor of the term “manifestations.”, Actually, all of the passages Jakes cites that use the term “manifestation” refer to the Incarnation of Christ (the “manifestation” of the Second Person of the Trinity in human form), except 1 Corinthians 12:7, which speaks of the “manifestation” of the Spirit; that is, the charismatic gifts. None of them are concerned with the doctrine of the Trinity per se, and therefore they do not use the word “manifestations” in the way that Jakes and Oneness teachers use it. In light of all this, it is hard to believe Jakes when he says that the language in his ministry’s doctrinal statement does not derive from modalism. If in fact he believes in the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity, then he can clear this controversy up and satisfy all Trinitarians by simply affirming in his doctrinal statement and in all of his ministry’s teachings that not only does he believe in the Trinity, but he also believes the Trinity comprises three eternally distinct Persons, who together are the one and only Almighty God. If he cannot bring himself to do that and yet still insists that he holds to the Trinity, then evangelicals should understand that it is he, and not his critics, who uses clever semantics to obfuscate the truth."


(Elliot Miller, "T. D. Jakes Responds to The Journal"


"Don't argue with people about foolishness. Don't argue about the Godhead--the Bible says it's a mystery. If it's a mystery that means it's a supernatural thing and everybody who thinks they understand it--really don't. It's impossible to explain how one God can be three persons and three persons be one God. And you're gonna blow your computer and short circuit your p.c. trying to explain something that you don't even understand. You can't even explain how a brown cow eats green grass and produces white milk. So you know you can't explain God. So just shut up arguing about it and say it's a mystery. All we know is that He's Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Ghost in regeneration and it's all good."


(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, June 3, 2005)


Note: T. D. Jakes says it's foolishness to argue about the Godhead! So when a Jehovah's Witness tells you that Jesus is not God we should just be silent and accept them? He tells us to shut up about it? This is outrageous! After telling us to "Shut up about it" T. D. Jakes goes on to "Explain" the Godhead using a oneness (Modalism) definition.

"And God said, 'Let us. Let usssssss, '" says Jakes, and then digresses: ", One God, but manifest in, three different ways, Father in creation, Son in redemption, Holy Spirit in regeneration."(T. D. Jakes, "Spirit Raiser," Time Magazine, September 17, 2001)

INVESTING IN THE STOCK MARKET OF GOD

"If you need a supernatural thing to occur from God I dare you to give tonight. There's an anointing I believe, there's going to be a supernatural anointing through the word of God. Somebody just give God any kind of praise you got right now! Many people do not understand if you're going to receive something from the Lord you have to be prepared to invest something! So many times people want things out of life without any kind of investment! You can't in the natural, in a stock market you can't get a return on a stock where you have not bought shares. If there's no investment you have no right to wait at the mailbox for a return where you have not made any investment."
(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, September 21, 2004)

JUST NAME AND CLAIM IT IS EVERYWHERE EVEN IN GHANA HERE

"My brothers and sisters the power of life and death is in the tongue. You can have whatever you say."
(T. D. Jakes, T. D. Jakes During Intermission of "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)


"You gotta speak to stuff or it won't change. Are you following what I'm saying?"
(T. D. Jakes, "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)

"When you stop talking back you stop fighting back. Speak to it! You lose your tongue you've lost your fighting power. Speak to it!"
(T. D. Jakes, "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)

OH IT IS NO MORE THE "ANNOINTING" THAT HEALS

"It's what you say to yourself that gets you healed. If you say that you won't be healed you won't be healed. If you say that you are broke you will stay broke. Oh! But I came to serve notice on the Devil. The Bible says, 'The power of life and death is in the tongue. Slap somebody and say, 'You better speak to yourself.'"
(T. D. Jakes, "Seize the Moment," Woman Thou Art Loosed, 2000 Atlanta)


"Did you know that the Bible says, 'You shall have whatever you say.' Now, don't you say that if you don't want no increase. If all you want is what you had don't say that anymore. But, if you want something beyond what you have ever seen, shout increase! The power of life and death is in your tongue. When you open your mouth you release power all over the room! Shout increase!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, September 14, 2004)

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO OSHODI MARKET JUST LOOK THIS GUY IS PRACTICING MARKETING

"I want the privilege of praying over your seed. I want to pray over your seed and it would be ridiculous for me to pray that God to give it back to you. Because if all He was going to do was give it back to you, you ought to keep it and then you would just have it. That's ridiculous! You got a $100 or a $1,000 and you're gonna give a $1,000 and I tell you God is going to give $1,000 back. Well, you just broke even! You could have kept that $1,000 and not gone through the trouble! Come on church folk! But God is going to give you some more on top of that. And as you sow it [a person shouts, 'Increase!'] I dare you to say it again, [The audience shouts, 'Increase!']. Oh My God! Woo, we're about to get ours in here. I don't know what you're getting out there. Well, we're about, somebody shout, 'Increase!'"
(T. D. Jakes, "Bible Answer Man Show," Hank Hanegraaff, Audio-Clip, July 30, 2004)


"I want to challenge you to sow and come into agreement with me. I believe you don't have to go for it, you can sow for it! And God will bring it to pass in your life. I want you to write me, put in your prayer request and sow a special seed. Believe God for supernatural resurrection harvest in your life!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Heirs of The Promise I," After the sermon T. D. Jakes said this while in the studio, March 21, 2005)


"I am excited! I have been claiming Genesis 26:12. It is powerful! It is life changing! Talks about Isaac sowing a seed and receiving a 100 fold return in that same year. I believe that as you sow God is going to give you a supernatural harvest in your life! I believe it will be at least a 100 fold! Some of you are going to break into that next dimension of 1,000 times more that I've been teaching around the country. I want you to partner with me so that you can get into this flow, Now write me and let me agree with you in prayer over your seed. As we harvest in this same year 100 fold, a 1,000 times more than expected!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Confronting Your Promises I," After the sermon T. D. Jakes said this while in the studio, March 20, 2005)


"When you sow seeds into this kind of anointing it releases the power of God that you can harvest. And I want you to get this scripture and read it and believe God with me Genesis 26:12. As we sow, I believe that we're going to experience a resurrection, Genesis 26:12, it says, 'Then Isaac sowed in that land and received in that same year a 100 fold and the Lord blessed him.' This year is your year to receive. You need to sow it and receive it in this year. This is your year of destiny."
(T. D. Jakes, "Heirs of The Promise II," After the sermon T. D. Jakes said this while in the studio, March 22, 2005)


"Jakes told those gathered that they have to go and claim the inheritance that God has promised them and know that it's theirs. And then he addressed critics who fault him for profiting from "selling religion." 'You can't get upset with me, because I choose to claim what God has promised me,' he said. 'Don't get upset with me! Don't hate the player; hate the game,' a revved up Jakes yelled over cheers."
(T. D. Jakes, "T.D. Jakes enthralls with energetic oratory," Denver Post.com"

"Don't deny me my joy you player hater you, How dare you sit there and roll your eyes and pass notes when you see me get my breakthrough! you wasn't there when I was in hell's kitchen coming out with some smoke in my coat."
(T. D. Jakes, "Spellbreaker," Tape from his ministry)

"I was staying in a little raggity house down in Dunbar West Virginia and the lights were half way on and half way off most of the time. And the roof was leaking and everything and one night I got up and started walking around in my house and I spoke to the house. And I said, 'House, I don't believe you!' I said, 'You look like I'm down and you look like I'm broke and you look like I'll never be anything. And you look like I'll never get up and you look like I'm bound to the ghetto. But, I just want you to know house, I don't believe you! You're lying to me! You're not who I am and you're not where I'm going and I don't believe You!' I believe that the word that is in me is stronger than the circumstances that are against me. Ah, you all aren't hearing what I'm talking about. You got to start talking to situations or they will take over your life."
(T. D. Jakes, "The Bone Collector Part II," TBN, August 12, 2004)


"Oh! I wish you would sit there and look funny! I wish you would act like you always choose the right door! I wish you would get quiet. I dare you to get quiet on me! I'll start prophesying and tell all your business! You got 12 doors in front of you now! You better say something before I go off! I will go off! I will go off!, I wish you would jump on me! I'll fight everything in here!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Don't Get lost In The House," From the series "Home Remedies" TV1 Direct T.V. Channel 241. May 1, 2005)


THEY EVEN ADVERTISE THE TAPES ON THE TAPES

"My God! I'm preaching, I think I'll get my own tape this morning."
(T. D. Jakes, "The Invisible King," TBN June 27, 2004)


MORE SELF PRAISE

"Ya'll don't hear what I'm preaching. I'm preaching so good I'm about to 'Amen' myself! Oh!, Oh God! I'm preaching good! Hallelujah!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Give it up, Have it All II," TBN, April 15, 2005)

"Oh! That's good! I may have to get this tape myself!"

(T. D. Jakes, "Mega Fest 2005," The Church Channel, August 18, 2005)


"This tape is so good I'm going to buy this one myself!"
(T. D. Jakes, "Reality Check," From the series "Fight For The Family." TBN August 19, 2005)


"Oh dear! I'm going to buy this tape myself. Give me two tapes! Hold two tapes in the back."
(T. D. Jakes, "Dealing With The Unexpected," TBN, November 28, 2004)


Note: Pride is one sign of many that a false teacher possesses (1 Timothy 6:4; Jude 8-19; 2 Peter 2:10-18).


"You're entitled to have wellness in your body. Stop begging for what you're entitled to."
(T. D. Jakes, "God Never Meant For You To Lose," TBN, July 29, 2004)


"We believe that it is God’s will to heal and deliver His people today as He did in the days of the first Apostles. It is by the stripes of Jesus that we are healed, delivered and made whole. We have authority over sickness, disease, demons, curses, and every circumstance in life."
(T. D. Jakes Doctrinal Statement, website.)

Note: He wears glasses yet believes that we shouldn't be sick. Why are his eyes sick?

“The myth of the poor Jesus needs to be destroyed, because it’s holding people back.”
(Kaylois Henry, “Bishop Jakes Is Ready. Are You?,” The Dallas Observer magazine, June 20-26, 1996, pg. 31. PFO Quarterly Journal Article)



TD JAKES LIFE STYLE

“Jakes, who drives a Mercedes, has moved with his wife and their five children to a luxurious seven-bedroom home with swimming pool in the White Rock Lake area of Dallas. He said the home cost more than $1 million. ‘I do think we need some Christians who are in first class as well as coach,’ Jakes said.”
(The Fort Worth Star Telegram reports. PFO Quarterly Journal Article



"Jakes lives with wife Serita and their five children in a Dallas mansion, complete with an indoor swimming pool and bowling alley, And while some accuse Jakes of being driven by the dollar and not the divine - his transportation stable consists of a Mercedes-Benz, a Bentley, a BMW, a Lexus and a jet, Indeed, during MegaFest's kickoff, Jakes mentioned his sponsors more than he mentioned God. During the worship service, dozens of Potter's House ushers sprinted throughout the Georgia Dome, collecting purple duffel bags full of money and checks made out to T.D. Jakes Enterprises, The pastor says his income comes from his media enterprises, not from church tithes. And he dismisses such questions as having racist overtones."
("Building an empire to empower," T.D. Jakes may lead a Dallas mega-church, but that's not all he does. By Annette John-Hall, Inquirer Staff Writer, Philadelphia Inquirer posted August 22, 2005)

TRY TO DIFFERENTIATE 50CENT AND TD JAKES

"The Jakeses and their five children live in a 9,689-square-foot mansion on White Rock Lake, appraised at more than $3.3 million. He loves to shop and wears exquisitely tailored suits and expensive shoes. He owns a jet. "Anybody who has sold 8 million books shouldn't have to justify why they live in a nice house," Bishop Jakes said."
(T. D. Jakes, Fort Wayne.Com, "Preacher extends his reach with film, but some fault posh lifestyle"


Note: That may be true for an unbeliever, but what about for a man of the cloth living in a multi-million dollar house? Dr. J. Vernon McGee has well said, "Whenever you find a minister who is rich, watch out. Folk are not supposed to get rich in the ministry," Commentary on 2 Corinthians 6:8-10, page 117.


I drive a: "Lexus and Bentley"

(T. D. Jakes, Fort Wayne.Com, "Preacher extends his reach with film, but some fault posh lifestyle"

Note: On the Bentley Motors website here is a sample of prices for used Bentleys (Model year then price): 1) 2003--$185,000 2) 2005--$175,000 3) 2000--$159,000 4) 2002-- $279,000 5) 2004--$239,000.

He will still pay insurance oh oh Look Below what gave all the money.

“I think that Jesus is the product,” says author and televangelist T.D. Jakes, who is currently bishop at The Potters House, a primarily African-American Pentecostal church in Dallas. “When the product is excellent, it doesn't require a big sales pitch.”
(MSNBC News, "Do God and money mix?" March 31, 2005)

Note: Jesus is a product? Jesus is Lord of lords and Kings of kings--the creator of all things. Jesus is not a 'product' nor should He be compared to one.



I FEAR NONE OF THESE MEN I ONLY FEAR HIM.

CHRISTIANS READ YOUR BIBLE AND GET THE REVELATION FROM GOD. DONT LISTEN TO THE FALSE TEACHERS THAT TEACH DOCTRINE OF DEMON. IF I PREACHED ANYWHERE ANOTHER GOSPEL I WILL WITHDRAW. I AM NOT GREATER THAN MY OFFICE NOR THE GOD THAT GAVE ME THE OFFICE.


Selah

@Ishmael

The Use of Allah can be tolerated a times because Words Could be Generic Checkout Paul the Apostle, However it is becoming more frightful to do this.

When Paul met some people they were worshiping the "Unknown God" He had to tell them that they were supposed to be worshiping the Lord because he was unknown to them.

We see that the allah in the quran is a false god worshiped by Muslims. Just as Catholics and in other denominations you have false jesus you can have false worship of him we however know that the Allah is derivatory (if there any word like that) I know that the Arabs say Allah is the Supreme being. I know for a fact that they are worshiping something they don't understand. Because they use words like most merciful etc. this attribute is to the Triune God.

We just need to know his Character this will differentiate betwixt the two.

JUST AS YOU WILL DIFFERENT THE REAL JESUS FROM THE FAKE ONE.

@Misright

In a Good Adjudication There is Law, Enforcer, Offender and Prison. Which COURT WILL TRY JESUS (GOD) SUPPOSING HE IS FOUND GUILTY OF ANY CRIME.

EVEN PILATE COULD NOT FIND HIM GUILTY.

We are supposed to pray for the power of the Holiness of God.

Solomon is the One man that God asked what He wanted Just Look at how he Ended. He ended up Being a Wise Fool.

I think to desire Wisdom is God But We must desire the Fear and the Spirit of Know him more. Like Moses Did, That I may Know Him More.

Selah

But is such a concept Jewish? Is it not some Gentile or pagan concept that has somehow crept into our Holy Scriptures as some extreme liberalists would like to tell us? No, this was and still is a Jewish conception of God creating and dealing with His creation and His people Israel in a triune way. This quotation bears it out: Exodus 19 starts with the words, "In the third month." This is explained by the words of Proverbs 22:20, "Have I not written to thee excellent(Hebrew, threefold) things in counsels and knowledge." On this Rabbi Joshua bar Nehemiah said that this is the Torah whose letters are threefold, alf, bet, g(i)ml, and everything is a Trinity: The Torah is trinitarian, for it is composed of the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings. The Mishna (talmudical learning) is a trinity composed of talmud (learning) halakhot(daily Jewish laws) and haggadot (historical items). The mediator consisted of a trinity of Miriam, Moses, & Aaron. Prayers are a trinity of morning, afternoon, and evening prayers. Israel is a trinity consisting of priests, Levites and Israelites. The name Moses in Hebrew consists of three letters. He is of the tribe of Levi, which again is in the Hebrew three letters. from the seed of the Patriarchs who are a trinity of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; in the third month which is Sivan, after Nisan & Iyar on mount Sin whose letters are three as it is written. "And they rested in the wilderness of Sin.".(Midrash Tanhuma on Exodus 19)

If, according to our rabbis', God has made everything and arranged everything in a trinitarian way. then it must also be Jewish and biblical to know that God, Himself is a Trinity. This He is and has manifested Himself as the Savior, Messiah, and Son of God in the person of the Lord Jesus, the Messiah. He then sent down the Holy Spirit, the Ruakh Hakodesh, on the Disciples in the third month, of the Feast of Shavuoth, the feast of perfection, celebrated after counting seven times seven.


But. can three be one? Does not common sense rebel against such a statement? Must we not state categorically that God is either One or Three? Not so. As a matter of fact everything you come in contact with is not a mathematical concept of one, but usually an item composed of a trinity. The ancient Greek philosopher reasoned out the theory of atoms by simply watching a black cow, eating green grass, and then giving white milk. All things are composed of millions and billions of atoms; but the atom itself is a trinity of a proton. electron and nucleus. Perhaps we could best express it in the words of Dr. Henry Heydt:

In Romans 1:20 Paul uses the creation of the kosmos as demonstrating this Godhead (theiotes]. The universe , is an absolute triunity of space, time, and matter. Each of these in turn is an absolute triunity. Space consists of length, breadth, and depth or height: time is future, present, and past; matter is energy, motion, and phenomena. Here we have not merely an illustration of three in one --- as in the case of light, heat, and ultra-violet rays of the sunbeam, or the manifestation of H2O as liquid, ice, and steam --- but an absolute trinity composed of three absolute triunities.

@washie

How does one worship the Triune God? Doesn't the nature of God divide the commitment and obedience, the love and adoration we must give Him between three people rather than just one? Isn't this as bad as idolatry in any form, where idols were not condemned for their own power and influence (of which they had none), but rather for what they stole from the living God who deserved it all?

This is a serious charge, especially since it drives at the heart of something Jesus himself said, that "No man can serve two masters; for a slave will either hate the one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other." (Matt. 6:24) Consider, however, that God told Moses, "You will be God to Pharaoh." [Ex. 7:1] Moses was not God, and never claimed to be. But he acted as God's representative, and when he spoke to Pharaoh, he spoke with the authority of God. Jesus claims a much different relationship with God than Moses (Moses never would have said "I and the Father are one" or "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father." He never even called God Father.). But this shows how one human can act as God toward another human, simply by acting on behalf of God. To disobey Moses was to disobey God, not because Moses was literally God, but because he spoke for God, acting not out of his own will but on behalf of God's will. Jesus's claim is stronger than that of Moses, since Moses still had his own will and often ran counter to God. Because Jesus and the Father are one being, their will is the same. Jesus cannot want anything other than what the Father wants. Thus when Jesus speaks, he carries the authority of the Father. To disobey one person of the Trinity is to disobey all three, whereas to obey one person of the Trinity is to obey all three. They are never in conflict, they always speak from the same will and for the same purpose, even if they speak in different ways and about different things.

This resolves the matter of divided loyalties, but does not address the matter of divided affections. How can the finite human being give all the adoration due to God to not one but three persons? The adoration due to God is to love him with all our heart and soul and mind and might. But if all our love goes to the Father, how can we love anyone else? Not just another person of the Trinity, but what affection could we possibly have left over for family, or friends, or country? The answer is that God commands us to surrender all our love to him not so that we can love no one else, but so we can love the things that he loves. To love God is to love what He loves. Our love for others is unsteady, fitful, and conditional. It varies depending on how we perceive and deal with a person on a day-to-day basis.


God is the only being we can come close to loving consistently and completely, the only being who deserves that kind of love. When we give Him the love He deserves, He directs us to love those whom He loves, including those who cannot deserve that kind of love. So how can we talk of our love for God being divided among the three persons of the Trinity? If we love God we love what He loves, and the Trinity's love for one another is so complete, no person of it can begrudge love given to another of it. The Father is intent on glorifying the Son, and the Son is eager to glorify the Father. The Spirit receives their affection and works to glorify them both. Each works to direct the love given Him to the whole of the Trinity.

While it is universally admitted by both Jews and Christians that God is One and that there is no one beside Him, we are also compelled to acknowledge that the triunity of God is clearly taught in the Torah, the Prophets. and in the Writings --- that is in the whole Tenach, the Hebrew Scriptures of the Old Testament, & the New Testament. Not only in the Tenach but also in the Talmudical & Rabbinical writings this concept is well known. Space does not permit us to present proofs from all the sources in this short article. Here we present just a few challenging proofs:

THE TORAH: When God (Elohim) create the world He wanted to make absolutely clear to His creation that He is not some abstract mathematical unitarian principle with no analogy in all creation, as some of our philosophers tried to present Him under Aristotelian influence. Instead we read in the holy Torah these words:

And (Elohim) said. Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle,
& over all the earth. (Genesis 1:26)

Elohim made man, a being composed of a triunity --- body, soul and spirit, in the image of God;
and to make this more clear God reveals Himself in His plural form of Elohim and says, "Let us make man."

Even those of our rabbis who do not accept as yet the triunity of God, realize that this verse is clear support for such teaching. Thus in Midrash Rabbah on Genesis we find the following comments on the verse: Rabbi Samuel bar Nahman in the name of Rabbi Jonathan said, that at the time when Moses wrote the Torah; writing a portion of it daily, when he came to this Verse which says, "And Elohim said let us make man in our image after our likeness," Moses said, Master of the Universe why do you give herewith an excuse to the sectarians (who believe in the triunity of God). God answered Moses, You write and whoever wants to err let him err.

But surely God did not make Moses to write the whole Scriptures in order to make people err. but rather to show them the right way and the right revelation, namely that the One God is a triune God who calls Himself Elohim and who says. Let us make man.

THE PROPHETS: There are many Scripture verses which show clearly that God manifested Himself also as the Word by which He created heaven and earth and by which He leads and directs creation. He also manifested Himself as the Ruakh Hakodesh, the Holy Spirit, who inspired the prophets of God and who did mighty miracles through the great judges of Israel, Gideon, Samson, and David. We want to point out one Scripture which compels us to admit the triunity of God. Isaiah the prophet speaks in the name of God and says:

Come near unto me. hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning: from the time that it was,
there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. (Isaiah 48:16)

Here God calls the people to come to Him, but He is sent by the Lord GOD and His Spirit. Exactly the same teaching as we have found in the Torah. we find also in the teachings of God's prophets. How else can it be? The same God who commanded Moses to manifest His triunitarian nature commands also the Hebrew Prophets to do the same.

THE WRITINGS: Very clearly we find the same teaching about God in the Psalms and in the other writings of the Hebrew Scriptures. We read in Psalm 2 where the Holy Spirit, the Ruakh Hakodesh, speaks through David and says:

I will declare the decree: The LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son: this day have I begotten thee. (Psalm 2:7)

Here is the Holy Spirit speaking through David and instructing David, that the LORD, which is in Hebrew the ineffable name of Jehovah (which we pronounce as Adonay, has a Son who is begotten of God in a most supernatural way. Maybe King David himself did not well understand the words that he was commanded to write by the Holy Spirit; but as Moses and Isaiah. he obeyed. Be wrote this down for us so that there be no misunderstanding. God who is almighty manifests Himself as a triunity, leaving us no doubt as to His nature.

If a man is about to die he lives an inheritance for his Kids.

On his dying bed he gives his last VERY IMPORTANT WISH.

THIS IS JESUS LAST WISH

Mathew28 verse
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


So if you see a Christian that doesn't Evangelize You should know that he not a Christian.

Now if that Christian Evangelizes is materialism and not what Jesus preached that person is not a Christian.

Let me Explain
A Evangelist is a

1)prophet
2)Priest
3)Teaches The Love of God (Jesus)
4) Watchman He tell you what you are saved from Hell Fire and Sin and he


Prophet

He Prophesy to you when you Surrender your Life totally to him you will be free from sin and condemnation
When a man if freed from sin he escapes hell Fire.

Prophesy of heaven for the saved soul
Prophesy of Hell for the Unsaved soul
Prophesy that sin will no more reside in our mortal body and all the works of the flesh is destroyed look at Galatians for the works of the flesh.

Galatians 5 verse
19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Every Christian that evangelizes is given this as this is the message of Jesus when he came to the world.


Priest

When he prophesy he will go and pray with the Sinner a prayer of salvation which includes forsaken all known sins.
The priestly service does not end here he goes in his closet and prays for saved soul.

Teacher

All Christians should have bible study with each other on Christian living which should be on the fruit of the spirit

meekness
temperate
Charity(love in action)
Humility
Kindness
patience
Long suffering
Faith

All this is what are when born again.


Watchman

An Evangelist is supposed to watch himself with prayer. he must also teach his converts this rebuke in love exhort as often it demands.

@Donnie,

In God ways, it the prophet that appoints who the king should be and not vise versa.


You have erred there. The Prophet is an instrument in the hand of God to select a God King. Pastor should handsoff Politics.

Yes we are to spread the Word but not political word. It is the Holiness of God the Church should be preaching We should be living a Holy life and preaching in our own way.

If a man is to die now he leaves a good inheritance for his kid(s).

WHEN JESUS WAS ABOUT TO BE TAKEN UP HE DID GIVE A COMMANDENT THAT WE SHOULD PREACH THE GOSPEL.

THE INHERITANCE OF THE CHRISTIAN IS WHAT THEN? THE GOSPEL OF THE FREEDOM FROM SIN. WE HAVE NO BUSINESS IN POLITICS AS CHRISTIANS. WE NEED TO PRAY FOR A GOOD LEADER, PERIOD.

@ Topic and misright


My Sister you need help to read Scripture. You must read Scripture with Jesus as your God in mind. You shall put away all other notion about Jesus.

Jesus is The creator He made you and I there is no single sin in him. You cannot never Judge Jesus. you can never ever compare him to no single man or Group. You were Created by Jesus.

All your being from the time you were born till now he watched over you. Please He loves you he is filled with sorrow that you are questioning his authority.

In Him there is no Offence. Yet you are the one that has offended him but He Love while you are still his enemy is that you wants to dwell in your soul. He is so powerful and he will save you from the following

1) Sin
2) Hell

He can give you this power so that you will not sin again, you will be reconciled by the grace of God to the father and your soul will be seperated from God in hell.

I normally use this when I used to preach in Nigeria. WHEN A GRASS IS PULLED OUT OF THE GROUND AND YOU PUT IT ON A CONCRETE IN YOUR HEART YOU KNOW THAT PLANT IS DEAD.

You like that grass will be cast out of the presece of God this is the meaning of the death that it spoke in the bible to be completely thrown in outer darkness.

You must escape this horrible day of the Lord.

You Chance is here now Behold he knocks at the of your heart.

Love From Pure Jesus My God Amen.

@Ultrafem,

I am one that is a supporter of the Truth. I had been misled and God Warned me as a little Christian but I was not attentive. It took years for God to begin to lead me back home to the throne of grace.

His love is so great he is the Lover of my soul and all that is ready to acknowledge him.

I will want you to know that There very few real Christians because there many that have developed itchy ears. I respect alot of men of God but I can never trust them. The only one I will ever trust completely is Jesus.

EVERY OTHER MAN AND RELIGION WILL LEAD YOU TO HELL. FOLLOW PEOPLE BUT LOOK AT THEM WITH THE EYE OF THE BIBLE.

STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED OF THE WORD OF GOD A WATCHMAN THAT NEED NOT BE ASHAMED.

This One Please Take your time to Listen.
it is very loaded.

http://video.google.com/url?docid=-292748952186052796&esrc=

Now I can do other things. This is another Charlatan even smoking and cursing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1040105683094856380&q

This one has resurfaced if you have Broadband you will get it if not you have to be patient.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUm-zcmswxE

@busygirl

I am very happy that you know Abortion is sinful. you have put the matter to rest. There are sinners that attend Deeperlife and because someone is outwardly well dressed does not mean he is an Angel.

The Child of perdition Judas when he was with Jesus he lived an outward holiness and it was accepted by christ but he had an internal problem and the holy Ghost tried his best to warn him but he never repent in his heart. he sinned against the holy Ghost.

The Church ordinance is for Orderliness there is no sin in this.

@Davidylan

Your point is well noted and I have made this clear that the focus on people than the God we are to serve is becoming more powerful.


You will be attacked by Christians when you do justice to this issue. When you expose some of this "Men and Women of God" Like i have tried to on other thread you will be attacked.

You will be Suprised that this same people will call Muhamed a false prophet because of what HE DID AND PREACHED but because he did not called on the name Jesus. They have forgotten to go a step Futher not Just Professing Jesus but by their Fruits of Righteousness and Meekness.

I say this Any man that Advertise himself BE IT BRO KUMUYI PASTOR ADEBOYE PASTOR CHRIS etc to the reduction of JESUS himself is on his way back to hell.

When of the easiest ways of to go to hell is being a false preacher.

This is for Christians and Club issue


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fXgMQDH9s4

please look at these videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpIH3bI0alI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrxHKll748


http://video.google.com/url?docid=3502747948651093797

http://video.google.com/url?docid=8158456092773769520

I cant say more.

@TOPIC

The Christian God is not difficult. He is very very faithful to his word.

The Christian God wants to Reside in you and take control of your whole life. This is the perfect will of the father. Jesus says he does the will of the Father.

Jesus appreciate this difficulty of living for the father that is why he knocks and wants to reside in us so that we can follow the perfect will of God.

Note: so many people think that Jesus has not got standard for him to dwell in the individual, This is sincerely false Jesus demand standard and this standards is located in the bible.

You may read the bible if you don't have this spirit of Jesus in you controlling your whole life the Scripture will be Nonsense to you. However some people have been led astray by evil men but the word of God stands sure.

This for Young Christians Searching for God in holiness and righteousness.

THIS I SAY SO THAT SOME CHARLATANS WILL NOT MAKE YOU FEAR. CHRISTIANITY IS NOT INSTANT JACKPOT. YOU HAVE TO DIG THE WORD STAY SILENCE AND HUMBLE BEFORE GOD.


SADLY AND FEARFULLY THERE ARE FEW THAT FIND THIS WAY. BUT THERE IS VERY GREAT JOY FOR ONE WHEN YOU FIND IT. HOLINESS IS BEAUTIFUL IT IS SWEETER THAT ANYTHING. TO BE AT PEACE WITH GOD AND MAN IS SO VERY SWEET.

SUBSEQUENTLY I WILL POST SOME QUOTES AND I WILL EXPOUND AS GRACE MERCY IS GIVEN TO ME.

1) WHEN YOU SEE MAN NO MATTER WHO HE SAYS HE IS USE CURSE WORDS HE IS NOT OF THE FATHER AND JESUS DOES NOT DWELL IN HIM, IF I COME WITH CURSING WORDS I AM NEVER OF THE FATHER AND I AM ON THE WAY TO HELL.

COL 3 VERSE
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

TITUS 1
VERSE 6 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate

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@busygirl

Please help me out with where they have erred.

God bless.

@Beloved Batu,

I perceive that you have started developing a confrontational mind towards me, Any man that Speaks should Substantiate with Scripture. The bible says our weapon are not canal they are Mighty through GOD not politicians.

Jesus In his days was Democratically Elected to die. So please I did not say don't vote but I say don't get in the business of supporting one man with your position as a Pastor. We should be neutral in the case of King making God makes the King so we Go to God.

I hope I can get other Pharisees to agree with me (pls smile).

@babyosisi

I know what is worldliness if this woman is not the worldly i don't know what else is. Just as we have the duty to war with false teachers in other faith that tend to encroach our belief we have are told in Jude that we are to contend for the faith.

by their fruit ye shall know them. I am not a pastor nor a Prophet but one thing I know the Scripture.

Selah