If a prophet speaks s lie he is not to be believed.

@Olabowale

@Backslider:

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Ok good who was with muhamd to make sure that he was not being deceived by a false spirit.


Who was with Moses for the same exact reason you quoted above? Now, since I know that you care less about Moses, anyway, and all your hope was on Jesus of the Bible, I ask you the same question as above that you asked about Muhammad (AS)?

Folks, watch how he is going to trip over himself. Then am gonna cream him! I hope he remembers about the Satan (bad jinn/Devil) whispering in the ear of Jesus, at least three times. Watch this dude or anyone, who have the gull to attempt this booby trap!

Exodus 19
1In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.

2For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to the desert of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness; and there Israel camped before the mount.

3And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;

4Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.

5Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

6And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

7And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.

8And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.

9And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD.

10And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,

11And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

12And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:

13There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.

14And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.

15And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.

16And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

17And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount.

18And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

19And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.

20And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.

21And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish.

22And let the priests also, which come near to the LORD, sanctify themselves, lest the LORD break forth upon them.

23And Moses said unto the LORD, The people cannot come up to mount Sinai: for thou chargedst us, saying, Set bounds about the mount, and sanctify it.

24And the LORD said unto him, Away, get thee down, and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto the LORD, lest he break forth upon them.

25So Moses went down unto the people, and spake unto them.



Exodus 20
1 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

13Thou shalt not kill.

14Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15Thou shalt not steal.

16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

18And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.
19And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

20And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

21And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

22And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.




You see that God was speaking to Isreal directly unlike your demon possesed Muhamed.

@abusola and Muhseen

Dont try to sell Jesus like Judas did. I know that trick. Stick to your Quran. Jesus is the Prince of peace and he does not need your type of peace preached in your books. The writer of your book is the Prince of the Air belzebub.

now to more serious Issues


@gaga4luv

So Jesus lied. What are you going to do about it? Since you have decided to harden your heart to God there is no need of you coming here to explain to us.

When you cease to exist as micheal jackson did, I hope you will have enough strength to stand before God to prove to him he lied. He has mercy over you that is why you are still breathing. Once his mercy for you expires that is the end. I just hope you would have entered the NOAH'S ARK by then.


God help you and me

Posted by: olabowale
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And Prophet Ayub (Job) AS, suffered more than him. Whats your take on him, then? What about the Pharaoh of Moses, according to your Bible, did not perish in the sea but returned to rule over an Army-less nation and probably died in his palace? Is he destined for Paradise, based on the fact that your Bible said that he did not suffer and died by drowning along with his army? What kind of a Ship Captain would not go down with his ship, but let all the crew member

Keep trying to rewrite the bible.

The author of your quran tried that trick before when he asked Eve "has God said"
Imagine you using stick to fight me with a real sword.

your quran is a fraud. Who told you your lying Prophet all this stories. The greatest hindrance and curse to a muslim is muhamed and the Quran. However muslims are just of a rare breed in that they are given so a difficult life by the hadith the quran and a very difficult law that condemns them to hell.

Surely the muslims enemy is its religion.

@aremugangan

Ok good who was with muhamd to make sure that he was not being deceived by a false spirit.

muhamed is a Son of Perdition and my bible has one son of perdition called judas. The evil spirit that trouble Judas is the same that trouble muhamed.

muhamed heard the gospel and thought by the help of a false spirit he could create a religion. Leviathan helped him and voila we have Islam that slams people to hell and quran that makes man Qu ickly "ran" to heal.


Muhamed as made his choice so will you.

There is no where in the bible called the eye of the needle.

This is just so wrong.

Forsaken now becomes "not preferred"

Did peter not forsake fishing to be with the Lord?

@muhseen

She never said northener

osisi said

I lived in northern Nigeria.
In northern Nigeria,Muslim girls some as young as 5 years old are treated for gonorrhea and other STD's

@post

if you like accept Christ as God if you dont like refuse him that is your own decision.

Your book of Abomination and lies that your demon possessed mohamed scribbled to rival Jesus the son of God cannot stand. muhamed was deceived and he has deceived many. muhamed is a son of perdition and would be Judged by Jesus.

Your god muhamed would tremble at the feet of the most high jesus. you can go ahead and follow muhamed to hell.

@dezobo

Mathew 19

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life

@Abusola

if i don't organise holy war on you my brethren will. And am sure many onlookers have anticipated by sharpening their sword. Am not threatening or whatever ,

your book will not allow you behave normal it is a manual of terror error and horror. you are a terrorist in waiting you and I know it.

your very weak god you must fight for. our God does not need help. He dealt with his enemies at his own time ask Ahmed deedat

Just as the Snake leviathan deceived the woman in the garden your evil book seeks to deceive the called of christ and it is sad that you are an agent.

You have a manual of Error and Terror. You have been deceived and you want to deceive many. many will be deceived by you but the fact that you know you are in error your Judgement will be mighty.

Go and look at Ahmed Deedat. they tried to make it look good but that man was in hell before he died.

@donnie

call me whatever you like.

Jesus is not the trinity? Yes or No

The phrase “in the name of Jesus” has been twisted by the Oneness sect to narrow the formula of baptism to certain words. It is true Peter said, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins” (Acts 2:38). This sect claims that Peter gave the formula. But no person had the power to authorize the formula except the Son of God. The phrase “in the name of Jesus” meant “by the authority of Jesus” you should be baptized. In other words, Peter was declaring that Jesus commanded baptism; this is what is meant by the phrase “in Jesus name.”

For example a police officer may command a thief who flees the scene of the crime, “Stop in the name of the Law!” He is not saying this is the formula to use in stopping criminals, but rather, the officer is authorize to stop thieves because the Law gave him authority. Peter was saying the same thing: be baptized because Jesus authorized us to baptize you. Peter was not giving the formula for baptism but his claim of authority.

Who within the Godhead gave instruction to baptize? Jesus is the one who told us to baptize. The Father under the Old Covenant did not command it; it is a command given by Jesus in the Great Commission. So the question then is “how” did He tell us to baptize? Clearly in Matthew 28:19 Jesus says, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” This is the formula or manner of baptism. The formula or manner of baptism must come only from the One who authorized and commanded baptism—and that is Jesus. No one after Him can change the formula, and the book of Acts does not change the formula, but only clarifies Who authorized baptism.
Some argue that the names Father and Son are “titles” and thus are not "names". Those who argue the point miss the words of Jesus. He said to baptize in the “name” of the Father, Son and Spirit. He did not say in the “title” of the Father, Son and Spirit. The reason is simple; there is no distinction in ancient customs between a name and a title. They are one and the same. Consider this: most names come from titles. For example, the name "Johnson" means "son of Johnson." It is now shortened, however it is both a “name” and a "title”. Many names were originally titles: like Carpenter, Plumber, King, ect.

@abuzola

JOHN 14:1-14
(NIV) Jesus said: "Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in
God ; trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it
were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a
place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will
come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I
am. You know the way to the place where I am going."

Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how
can we know the way?"

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one
comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you
would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have
seen him."

Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for
us."

Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been
among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the
Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe
that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I
say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in
me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the
Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence
of the miracles themselves.

"I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I
have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because
I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my
name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me
for anything in my name, and I will do it."

@Olabowale

You are just very funny. In the bible we are called christians because we are what? because we follow christ. We are Worshippers of A God called Christ. You are never born a Christian or born into Christianity. If you notice a Christian is said to be born a Again.

You cannot by your demon possesed man god called muhamed use the standard of Islam. I know that muhamed is the one you worship Muhamed is the proxy god worshipped you hide in your religion. We worship Jesus in that we live like him through the Holy Ghost to the Glory of God the father.


The word Christianity has stronger Synonyms in the bible we are called people of the way.

As for me the word Christianity can go and burning in hell for all i care, if our lives does not point Christ living to the glory of God the father.

The early Christians were known for the way they lived, not only for what they believed. For them, the two were completely intertwined. The earliest title given to them reflected the importance of their kingdom lifestyle. They were not called the people of the experience or the people of right doctrine or even the people of the church. Rather, they were the people of the Way. It is equally significant that the Christians were known as the people of the Way. More than just individuals who had been converted, they were now a people, a new community of faith, which had embarked together on a new way of life. To follow Jesus meant to share Jesus life and to share it with others.


Your islam was arrranged by the devil in hell to counter Jesus christ. The core of islam is to overcome the world and make everyone a moslem and thereby send all who belive to hell. your islam is not able to hold a nation together to your islam Isreal is living in the midst of you and you cant defeat Isreal.

Your god has a long way to go. There is a big log of wood in your god's eyes that he needs to remove in his backyard ISREAL. You need to wake up your Allah /muhamed up because Isreal is not going anywhere.

they have shown him Christian it remains "ity"

can you see satan setting a new standard for God.

@David  Tonye-t

The message I listened to said that the new name of God is one which he said was Jesus christ. Now he went further to say that since the discples account of baptism in Acts says that Baptise in the name of Jesus the new name of God is Jesus.

Now the new name of the word is Jesus and not the Totality of God head. The God head has 3 persons and we are to be baptized by the

Name of the father the son and the Holy Ghost.

Pastor Chris said in the message that since it did not say in the[b] Names [/b]of the father the  of the son and the Holy Ghost it therefore meant that in Mentioning Jesus at Baptism you have covered the three.

This I say is error and has no basis in Scripture. If an angel came to tell me that he wants to baptize anyone in the name of Jesus alone i will say he is in error.

@abuzola

what is the prerequisite for forgiveness? You can not give me and answer in your Quran but you come here and say there is no word called Christainity in the bible.

If I will ask you who was there when muhamed was hearing from god allah. Your quran is a book of fraud and you lie because your quran is a MANUSCRIPT OF LIES

For me I say Muhamed was a demon possesed man and is in hell crying day and night.  Muhamed wishes that you would repent and not join him in hell but alas you may not believe and join him atleast you had the opportunity.


You look very well islam is Satanic and when a moslem is good he is very good because he disobeys the Quran.

I dont have a problem with moslem but the quran and the allah behind it. They are those that the moslem fights for. My God fights his own fight. Go and ask Ahmed deedat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4pbSbarYGo&feature=related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-_20sjHVI&feature=related



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkpfgSq2EyI&feature=related

This last video it is as if deedat was already in hell.

@Tudor

he sure did have the right to also die the way he did right?

@all

The fact is that there is no where in the bible that specifically say MJ or any of us should not fry hair, change nose, bleach skin, and change our lips.

What i know for a fact.

You they say actions speak louder than words.

The way you look is a screaming statement of who you are. If you as woman dress up and you are showing of you parts that are sacred you

1) trying to attract men to yourself and equate yourself to an animal(this is called peacocking)
2) You see yourself as a sexual tool
3) If you say that you just want to dress like and that it means nothing to you. you are deceptive and you are a fraud inside you.
4) You are an enemy of God

Liberals are quick to insist that you can't judge a person by their appearance. Yes, it is true that there may be a few who, for whatever reason, do not fit the mold society would place them in, based on their appearance and like I said this will mean the heart is deceptive.

Example. If I dress like a pastor and I am not one what have I just said to myself? I can scream it doesnot matter till eternity but the truth remains that I am deceptive.


I agree that it would be foolish to judge someone by a narrow criteria like skin color or facial features that they were born with, etc. And we acknowledge that there is a large majority of people who dress in a rather generic, mainstream way; therefore it is hard to draw many conclusions from them based on their appearance other than the fact that they support the mainstream values of the present society.


THERE IS THE GUIDLINE OF PICKING APPEARANCE

1 Timothy 2:9-10
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;


Your cloth must not be expensive

People claim that the above only apply to the New Testament era because of the unique problems brought on by their ancient culture. Oh really? It is clear to see that what bothered Peter and Paul was not something unique to their time and place, but things that are common to all men and women of all times: namely pride, the love of money, the desire brag about ourselves, the use of immodesty to attract attention to ourselves and so on. To say that these instructions only apply to New Testament times is absurd; does that mean that modern Christians should be encouraged to be immodest and indecent? Does that mean that modern Christians should wear expensive, cutting-edge fashions in order to attract attention to ourselves and flaunt our wealth? Does that mean that modern Christians should be encouraged to be loud, obnoxious and proud in the way they present themselves to those around them? Does that mean that modern Christians should be vain, self-centered and self-absorbed? Of course not!

You dont need to worry if you are not a Christian about this post.

@truthonly

I dont see where what you qouted has any relevance to fact that A born shall not sin.

People say that Micheal Jackson wanted to look like a White man but is this not Hypocrisy.

We have some many black women and men frying their hair and making them look different.

@tudor and Huxley2

Still no where is it written that Getting married is Equals to sex.

Yes the act is one that is done in marriage but no where does it say that Marriage is all about having sex.

I am liking this style of _{ARGUMENT THAT PILGRIM1 USES}

I listened to Pastor Chris doctrine on trinity

He was doing alright untill he said that the New name of God was "in the name of the son the father and the Holy Ghost"

He went into deeper error that since the bible said that in him the

The Whole Fulness of the Godhead Dwells in Him Bodily

This means that the new name of God is Jesus

I think this is a grave error.

God is not manifesting as 3 entities. They are 3 persons in the God head nothing more nothing less.

I will post the link later

@Tudor

Let me borrow a leaf from pilgrim1

Where is it in the bible that we are to marry because of Sex?

@truth only


You are in Error

I want you to tell me where in the bible backs the qoute below

This forgiveness is by default and does not require asking from God Almighty!
We are his kids and forgiveness is our birthright.

This is a lie from hell there is no modicum of truth in this.

If this is true It means that OBJ is begging for a reason.

If it is money then Obj is not a thief then.

@all

He has a dream let him dream. This is an example of dreaming we can all critize his (the candidate) for his action in the Senate.

If he did not collected money and refused the salary increase this would be a Good criteria for our consideration. That is what our criticizm be based on.

Dont let us kill a dream without considering if it is a bad one or not.

@tudor
I have looked and i dont see where it says incest equals marrying your sister

@huxley2

Very simple

1 John 1: 8-10

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

This chapter comes before

1 John 2: 12

I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

Believers DO NOT SIN

1 John 3: 6

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1 John 5: 18

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

The first quote states that if we are to come to God with the beleive that we have not sinned then we make God a liar.


If you read the bible no where did it say

He that saith he liveth in Christ Jesus and sinneth not is a liar and the truth is not in him

The context in which the above was made

Consider this dialogue

Christian: My friend, did you know that “if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanseth us from all sin?” I have proved this to be true, and if you will come to Him as I did you may prove it for yourself, and be cleansed from all sin.

Self-Righteous: But I have no sin to be cleansed away; I have no need of the blood of Jesus.

Christian: What? You say you have no sin? “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” Surely you are wrong and self-deceived. You should repent, confess your sins, and be saved, for we read in I John 1 :9. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Self-Righteous: But I have never sinned, and do not feel that I have anything to confess or repent of. I pay my honest debts, and treat my neighbors well, and support my family, and I believe I am just as good as anyone. I am not a sinner, and have never done anything wrong.

Christian: Surely, in saving that, you are making God a liar, for in I John 1:10 it says: “If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him. liar, and His word is not in us.”


A christain Cannot sin

@tudor

What prevents you from marrying your sister

incest is not marrying your sister.

Not untill we shy away from colonial time backsliden christ lliving to one where we love ourselves we cannot make it.