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Christianity EtcRe: What If Christianity Was A Sham? by Backslider(m): 6:53am On Mar 20, 2007
@nferyn

Remember you were given the Chances to make your case. When you shall stand before God that made you be ready with all your books and your Arguements. Make sure you take it to your grave.  My brother be warned

Heb: 9 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

I am just sad that you cannot defend yourself and there is no Lawyer that will plead your case on that terrible day of the LORD.

I know of a loving Lawyer that will plead your case but you must accept him on this side of eternity. His fee is that you must surrender your soul you whole life to him.

Take jesus now and flee the coming wrath of God. Those gods and Philosophy will not save you they will be no where on that day God will Judge the sins of all men.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians And Alcohol by Backslider(m): 6:42am On Mar 20, 2007
@donnie
You said
donnie:
@ backslider. Have you seen this scripture before? Colossians 2:16 -Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink,
Does that mean you can drink Gamaline 20 or kerosine  After all he said you shall take up scorpions and drink poison ? STRONG DRINK IS EVIL even a sinner knows this.


donnie:
And did you say i was not a christian because i drank? Now isn't that outrageous? Well before i ask you to prove what you just said, i will ask you this question which you must answer correctly if truely you understand this message of salvation: When did the disciples(apostles) of Jesus get born-again? Was it while Jesus was with them? Or at his death? His resurrection? when? Please answer this question.
What spirit does a man that says he has christ in him sits with unsaved souls drinks alchohol in your own words.
Where people Smoke cocaine and wee can you visit there and take cocaine with them what spirit is that.

My mother sold drinks for 2 decades and I know what drinks is ( maybe I am not fair to your knowledge of sin but please forgive me I can say on all authority beer wine hard spirits is SINFUL)

Anyway THERE IS THE DECEPTIVENESS OF SIN. If my words causes you anger please pardon me, but don't be deceived by the deceptive nature of sin.

Hebrews9
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.   

Ye are my disciple if ye do my will
Bible says without the sheding of blood there is no remission of sin.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians And Alcohol by Backslider(m): 6:59pm On Mar 19, 2007
@all

A man can abstain from all evil things and still go to hell. However you can live a holy life in Christ inwardly and outwardly but you must come to him in a broken form( as a child goes to his father).

* Alcoholism makes men fail; legalism helps them succeed in the world.
* Alcoholism makes men depend on the bottle; legalism makes them self-sufficient, depending on no one.
* Alcoholism destroys moral resolve; legalism gives it strength.
* Alcoholics don't feel welcome in church; legalists love to hear their morality extolled in church.

I say this to be balanced in Christ so we don't say our righteousness is our own.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians And Alcohol by Backslider(m): 6:47pm On Mar 19, 2007
@ TV01

I SPEAK TO THE MATTER AND I THANK GOD I WILL NOT CALL NO ONE NAMES. I WILL SPEAK THE MIND OF GOD YOU QUOTED SCRIPTURE AND YOU DO SO WITH NO BACKGROUND IN SCRIPTURE.

WELL I WILL GO MORE AND SHOW YOU.



By medical definition[b], alcohol is a drug.[/b] The moderate drinker is naive if he does not recognize the peril of eventually becoming addicted himself.

PROVERBS 23
29Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?

30They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

31Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

32At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

33Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.

34Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.

35They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.



I SUPPOSE YOU WILL SAY COCAINE AND MARIJUANA IS OK RIGHT ?

ALCOHOL IS A DRUG COCAINE IS A DRUG WEE IS A DRUG THEY HAVE BOTH EFFECTS SOME HIGHER THAN THE OTHER

LETS US USE THE SPIRIT PLUS OUR HEADS TO KNOW WHAT IS EVIL AND FLEE FROM IT.


I AM DAMNED IF I DO NOT WHAT I PREACH JUST AS PAUL SAYS IT IF I PREACH AND NOT PRACTICE THE SAME I PREACH I AM A REPROBATE AND A CASTAWAY.

LOOK I DON'T NEED THIS SITE TO BE WHO I AM I HAVE MY BIBLE AND I KNOW WHOM I HAVE BELIEVED DRINK IS EVIL PERIOD

BLESSINGS IN THE NAME OF JESUS
CrimeRe: Forced Islamist Abductions In Nigeria by Backslider(m): 5:55pm On Mar 19, 2007
@batu


Yea Woe unto me if I preach not the Mind of Christ. I have hammered on the Judgment of Christ and Love of Christ. Because you don't Understand the love of Christ that why you say I am Judgmental.

IF YOU WERE GOING ON HIGH SPEED INTO A DITCH OR A BROKEN BRIDGE, I WAS JUST COMING FROM ALMOST ENTERING IT AND I WAS WARNED WILL I TELL JUST TELL YOU SMILING DON'T ENTER IT ?

TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS REQUIRED.

THE TOTALITY OF SCRIPTURE IS SAVING FROM ALL SINS AND HELL AND HELL FIRE.

JESUS PREACHED JUDGMENT AND LOVE

YOU MUST NOW TELL ME WHAT ARE WE SAVED FROM?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians And Alcohol by Backslider(m): 5:42pm On Mar 19, 2007
@donnie

All things are lawful but not all things are expedient(helpful).

The Apostle Paul in the above quote brings us understanding concerning the liberty we have in Christ. According to him, you might not be condemned by any law for doing a thing but such a thng might not help you in your christian walk.



donnie:
All things are lawful but not all things are expedient(helpful).

The Apostle Paul in the above quote brings us understanding concerning the liberty we have in Christ. According to him, you might not be condemned by any law for doing a thing but such a thng might not help you in your christian walk.
Where did he bring the understanding of THE LIBERTY TO DRINK BEER ! This is outrageous. You must read scripture and know what is expedient(in the context that it was used here) as a Christian and what is not Expedient.

You can not just Lift a statement and make a doctrine out of it.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A HOLY ROYAL PRIESTHOOD
Leviticus 10:9
Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:

donnie:
The bible does not expressly condemn drinking or smoking in the scripures, but in my opinion, they are like hindrances or weights in our christain walk. For instance, there is no law that says, thou shalt take a bath daily; but you know that failure to take a bath will hinder your work as a christian worker who is meant to be reaching out to others.
Another one again.The bible does condemn Strong wine (Alcoholic beverages) When you drink one bottle of coke and one bottle of beer of the same quantity my brother you will be intoxicated the taste is very different as the north is to the south so is STRONG DRINK (WINE) IS TO FRESH WINE SOFT DRINK.

Numbers 6:3
He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.

Judges 13:4
Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing


donnie:
I am not in the same school as those who try to defend the Lord by saying that the wine He changed water into was actually fruit juice or that when he was found eating and drinking with sinners He was actually drinking coke or seven up. I let the Word speak for itslf.
This is just another Outrageous UNRIGHTEOUS STATEMENT Jesus would NEVER have drank STRONG wine JESUS WAS A NAZERENE READ BELOW WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.


Judges 13:7
But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink, neither eat any unclean thing: for the child shall be a Nazarite to God from the womb to the day of his death.



donnie:
However i will like to say that in our society of today, i do not subscribe to a life of boozing as a christain. I used to be a heavy drinker as a non- christain but after i got saved, i still had the temptaion to drink when some of my worldly friends came around. Nevertheless, i did not back out from following the Lord; i kept pressing on as i tried to love Him more.
Thank God for the church i found myself in. They did not give up on me or drive me away. I will worship God in the beauty of holliness with tears running down my eyes as i felt the presence of the Holy Spirit move all over me. I will listen to God's Word and each time i did, i felt deep hunger for God stirred up within me because i knew i wanted more of Him.

It came to a time when i knew i had to make a decision. I did not want the devil accusing me anymore, telling me that the love and joy i feel inside is as a result of a bottle of beer i took some minutes ago and not the Holy Ghost. I don't want him telling me that i was bound to any habbit. I wanted to know that it was actualy the boldness of the Spirit i had within me and not dutch courage.

One night, while sitting with my friend, i made the decision in my heart: no more star, no more stout, no more palm wine. I shall be full of only the Holy Ghost; nothing else. So that when i recieve a vision or prophecy, i will be sure it is the Holy Ghost giving it and not Star or 'small stout' working on my mind.
ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE YOU WERE NOT A CHRISTIAN WHEN YOU DRANK EVEN IF YOU CAME TO THE SAVING KNOWLEDGE OF CHRIST.

YOU CALL YOUR FRIENDS WORLDLY? WHAT DIFFERENTIATED FROM THEM SIMPLE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS WRONG AND RIGHT?
SO YOU KNEW IT COULD COMPETE WITH GOD ISN'T IT?

WELL I AM HAPPY THAT YOU NOW KNOW THAT WITHOUT SCRIPTURE THAT IT WAS WRONG AND REMAINS WRONG FOR EVER.


donnie:
There has to be a difference between those who are serving the Lord and those who serve themselves.
EXACTLY I AGREE WITH YOU 100% WE MUST BE DIFFERENT OUTWARDLY AND INWARDLY.



donnie:
Those who are addicted to drinking started with just a sip. I advice those who will like to live and minister effectively as christians to avoid strong drink! God bless you.
EXACTLY I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE ALSO.
THE BIBLE SAYS FLEE ALL APPEARANCE OF EVIL DONT TOUCH ANY UNCLEAN THING DONT EVEN TRY TO SAY YOU WANT TO SEE OR EXAMINE IT.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians And Alcohol by Backslider(m): 3:02pm On Mar 19, 2007
@ Agnes


Please Read your Bible

Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

if not sin is at your door and if you allow it you are going to be destroyed without remedy.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Biblical For Christian Women To Wear Trousers? by Backslider(m): 1:09pm On Mar 19, 2007
Ok Very Good

I think Killing of twins, worshiping of Idol, smoking (we should be smoking in the Church) should be allowed to continue since it is an outward thing and Since it only the heart that matters.

We are really Joking with Good oh. Even in our normal senses Is there not a difference between An Israelite and An Egyptian.

Heb 8 v 5Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Hebrews 10

1For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
CrimeRe: Forced Islamist Abductions In Nigeria by Backslider(m): 12:41pm On Mar 19, 2007
@lewa


You see what I have been saying. The messages in these Prosperity Bible Church can never touch this matter.

The evil one has possessed the soul of this people and they are agents of the devil. However our warfare is not Canal but they are Mighty through God.

I personally believe that God is keeping Nigeria together because of the Christian Minority in the Muslim North and I know people that are in the South ( I was before) that feel that we should seize to exist as a nation.

We need to go to the north to strengthen the brethren with the word of the Lord.

May God strengthen the Brethren Amen!
Christianity EtcRe: Pls Does Anybody Know Where The Biblical Garden Of Eden Is Located Or Was Located? I Really Wish I C by Backslider(m): 10:00am On Mar 19, 2007
@Idinrete,

I plead with you to leave your cynism of God.

However You must know the events of the building of the Pyramids of Egypt and Sudan were After the Flood

Genesis 5:29
And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.

The NATION EGYPT WAS MENTIONED VERY LATE IN THE CHAPTER

Genesis 12:10
And there was a famine in the land: and Abram went down into Egypt to sojourn there; for the famine was grievous in the land.


Idinrete please Get your HISTOTHEOLOGY RIGHT DONT FEED YOUR HATRED FOR GOD WITH WHAT IS NOT TRUE
Christianity EtcRe: Can't Wait For Rapture by Backslider(m): 5:16pm On Mar 18, 2007
Yeah that would be a great day when the saints go matching in.

Well we need to examine ourselves if we are Holy within and without.

BECAUSE IT SAYS HOLINESS WITHOUT WHICH NO MAN SHALL SEE THE LORD.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Fire: A Twisted Truth Untangled by Backslider(m): 5:08pm On Mar 18, 2007
[/quote]The spirit of man is never spelt with a capital S. Point number two the spirit of man goes back to God whether or not he or she the person is good or evil upon death. The scripture doesn't make any distinction.

Gen 2
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a[b] living soul[/b].


You must know that when man was made he was given the breath of life and he became a living soul, this means that he was a dead soul before the breath came into him.

The breath that came out of God was the Eternal life and Not an EVIL SPIRIT.

a Sinner carries a Dead life an Evil spirit and when he dies his soul goes to hell where Satan is to await the final Judgment in hell fire.

A righteous man soul is taken to heaven and he leaves his body here on earth. The pure Spirit that the sinless man carries go to be with the lord and the soul also.

The soul of man was dead at the beginning It was the spirit that quickened the soul. Remember " THE LETTER KILLETH THE SPIRIT GIVETH"

EVERY LIVING THING HAS LIFE BUT NOT ALL HAS ETERNAL LIFE.

YOU COMMIT SIN WITH ALL YOUR WHOLE BODY SOUL AND SPIRIT.

YOU SPEAK EVIL WITH YOUR MOUTH and One that does evil does not do it with God's spirit.

A man is said to have a Evil spirit if he does wickedly.



The heart is not the soul. The heart as used in scriptures represents the mind. Our mind is the seat of intelligence in which our thoughts are formed. The bible says "as a man thinketh so is he"

Most persons are confused about the word "soul". The hebrew word used for soul is nephesh, which means being, person or creature. If we look at the Genesis story accounting for man's creation we will get a better picture of what the soul represents. When God put man's body together he was only a lifeless form, he wasn't dead since he never had life as yet. When God blew the "breath of life" in his nostrils, oly then did man become a living soul, or being, or person. This breath of life or life force is what the bible calls the spirit of man. So the spirit of man and the breath that came from God are one and the same thing, and the bible teaches that when the body goes back to the dust the spirit will go back to God. Hence the soul ceases to exist for as long as that combination of spirit and body is absent.
I am not confused with word "SOUL" people are ready to Go into Hebrew and pick and Choose.

The heart is the door of the soul ( It says Guard you heart)

Mind is the Eye of the soul

THE SOUL OF MAN NO MAN CAN KNOW IT IS THE HEART OF MAN THE BIBLE SAYS THE HEART OF MAN IS DECEPTIVE.

YOU SEE YOU DONT LEARN IN ISOLATION YOUR LEARNING MUST POINT TO RIGHT AND WRONG.

I'd prefer to say when a person's life becomes locked in Jesus he chooses not to commit sin. Sinning is a choice, and not only an action. Let me explain something. Man was born with a nature to sin. Its in our genes. When we accept Christ our nature gradually changes towards His divine nature, and the more we experience change the more we hate choosing against God and His will for us. Only Christ can wrought this change. The beautiful thing is that Christ lives in us while He empowers us. Any good that results must always be attributed to Him.[quote]
A man that christ dwell in does not commit sin you have contradicted

1 John 3



8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


Any man (soul) that HAS AN EVIL SPIRIT IS OF THE DEVIL.
Christianity EtcRe: Judas Iscariot: Betrayer Or Enabler? by Backslider(m): 6:16pm On Mar 17, 2007
@David and Pataki

Amen To that.



But we need to share scripture also Instead of watching Immoral pictures that corrupt the mind.

I will rather be here sharing my Idea of Scripture. We also should be challenge by GODLY THINGS.
I will want all of us to share scripture.

Please Dont Go brothers and sisters Dont be Offended.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Of Morality: Jephtah by Backslider(m): 2:16pm On Mar 17, 2007
@KAG

So you're trying to say Jephtah didn't know "thou shalt not kill"

If He knew or did not Know. Let us Examine his heart.

If he knew he was to keep his oath are you saying that he did not know that he was not to kill any one for God?

He knows how to write and yet he does not know how to read ABC. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: What If Christianity Was A Sham? by Backslider(m): 1:01pm On Mar 17, 2007
Please Google SON Of SAM HIS NAME IS DAVID W.

this is the link Bellow there are 26 chapters

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/berkowitz/letter_1.html

Now read his Testimony on his website

www.forgivenforlife.com

Take your time to discover if this is a sham or not.

HE REFUSED PAROLE BUT LETTER WENT TO FULFILL RIGHTEOUSNESS HE IS OBEDIENT.
Christianity EtcRe: Judas Iscariot: Betrayer Or Enabler? by Backslider(m): 12:17pm On Mar 17, 2007
@ All

I cannot Judge your intentions as some of them seem pure but the reality or what I see is that Shahan Does lot Of Analyzes and Inputs, some are Academic and Some Have a lot of morality in it.

However I sense that we should put and point with the brush of Knowledge of Christ Righteousness and a HIGH HOLINESS BUILDING.

WE COULD BE DOING JUST KNOWLEDGE i.e WHAT WE KNOW.

Dont get me wrong I am humbled by the Knowledge of others and the ability of what the brain can hold of the Knowledge of Christ.

However We are not going to be Judged by the Knowledge of what we Know in scripture but we shall be Judged by our actions by Scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Fire: A Twisted Truth Untangled by Backslider(m): 11:56am On Mar 17, 2007
@bobbyaf

When a man dies the Spirit of the man if it is Holy Goes to Heaven.
The resurrection of man on the last day is resurrection of a complete man.

EVERY SIN is committed by the SPIRIT SOUL AND BODY

THE HEART (SOUL) IS THE DOOR OF SPIRIT JESUS SAYS "BEHOLD I STAND AT THE DOOR"

THAT IS WHY IT SAYS THE SOUL THAT SINNETH SHALL DIE i.e the soul that reject JESUS DIES TOGETHER WITH THE EVIL SPIRIT THAT DWELLS IN THE SOUL AND THE SOUL IN THE BODY.

when a man sins the soul is DEAD IN SIN

WHEN A MAN SOUL IS SINLESS IT is DEAD TO SIN

The sinless soul is without sin so it and the soul goes to heaven.

Now Jesus died and his soul went to hell, However The spirit of God that Jesus carries is very different from that of the one you and I carry (that is if we are born Again Without sin)

Because Jesus is God and his death took him to enter ETERNITY a ZONE WHERE HE CAN BE AT DIFFERENT PLACE AND STILL BE AT THE SAME PLACE THAT IS WHY HE IS CALLED OMNISPRESENT THIS IS AN ATTRIBUTE OF GOD.

JESUS CAN BE IN HELL AND ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN AT THE SAME TIME ( I CANT EXPLAIN THAT) THIS THREE OF THE GOD HEAD HAVE THIS ATTRIBUTE.

HOWEVER THEY MOST OF THE TIME DONT GO WITH THEIR FULL GLORY BECAUSE THEY COULD KILL OF HUMAN LIFE IN THEIR ANGER AND FURY.

THE ONLY MAN GOD LOVES IS A CONTRITE MAN. HE IS READY TO WORK WITH A CONTRITE MAN.

THE GOD IN THE SCRIPTURE IS VERY DIFFERENT HE IS ONE THAT WE NEED HELP TO BE WORSHIP. TO WORSHIP HIM YOU MUST LET HIM DWELL IN YOU.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Youths Run Away From Deeper Life Bible Church? by Backslider(m): 11:06am On Mar 17, 2007
@Virtue

Relax Its not the man of God that matters it his message. Deeper Life I learnt alot of scriptural doctrine and I can say that you cant sit under the preaching of Bro Kumuyi and just continue in life of sin.

you must know how ever the youths or even all other age limits will leave because of so many reasons they will not want to live a holy life inwardly and outwardly.

I have been listening to other preachers and Bro Kumuyi is in the league of these preachers they have been battered over the century if you read about A .W Tozer, David Wilkerson, William P. Nicholson, Paris Reidman, Leonard Ravenhill, Richard Owen Roberts etc.


THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WOUNDED SPIRIT AND A CONTRITE SPIRIT ONE IS FROM GOD AND THE OTHER IS FROM SATAN [b][/b]
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Fire: A Twisted Truth Untangled by Backslider(m): 8:58pm On Mar 16, 2007
@ Shahan Let me help here if I can.


The duality of JESUS God comes in place here.

EVERY SOUL THAT DIES GIVES UP THE GHOST = BREATH = SPIRIT.

THE SOUL AND BODY OF JESUS WENT TO HELL

THE SPIRIT IN JESUS IS THE ETERNAL LIFE OF GOD IT CAN NEVER DIE BECAUSE IT CAME FROM GOD IT MUST RETURN TO GOD.

THE SOUL OF JESUS AND HIS BODY WENT TO HEAVEN THAT DAY( THE THIRD)

SO HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE PRESENCE OF HIS FATHER IN COMPLETE MAN FORM.

HOPE THIS HELPS

I KNOW WHAT I MEAN BUT THERE OTHER BACKGROUND YOU MUST KNOW TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THIS.

SELAH
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Of Morality: Jephtah by Backslider(m): 8:30pm On Mar 16, 2007
@Kag

Jephtah Violated the Natural law of God. God does not accept Human Sacrifice no where were the CHILDREN OF A NATION OF IRSREAL supposed to sacrifice a citizen.

He violated the Moral law of the state of Isreal, God had no hand it. It was wrong and no one should ever do it.

Abraham was tested on this and the lord did not allow him do it. So Jephtah was Foolish and over Zealous.

No where did God require normal human Sacrifice.

Selah
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Of Morality: Jephtah by Backslider(m): 6:58pm On Mar 16, 2007
@Kag

You must know this that we have been given direction Thou shall not Kill. We may Choose to Justify ourselves.

The MORAL LAW OF THE HEBREW PEOPLE IS THE OLD TESTAMENT TEN COMMANDEMENT.

THIS MEANS IN THE STATE OF ISRAEL JEWS ARE NOT TO KILL.

IT IS AS IF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WAS AS A GUINEA PIG SO AS THE SHOW THE WAY GODS WANTS TO HAVE A MECHANISM OF SAVING IMMORAL MAN.

THE LORD GOD WANTED TO ENLIGHTEN MAN ON TRANSGRESSION IN A STATE CALLED ISREAL. IF YOU READ THE BIBLE VERY WELL GOD AT TIMES STEPS OUT OF THIS AND WHENEVER HE FINDS A TRIBE OR A MAN THAT IS NOT EVEN AN ISREALITE HE WORKS WITH THIS PERSON TO THE GLORY OF HIS NAME.

YOU STILL HAVE TO DO A GOOD RESEARCH.

I AM HOWEVER HAPPY THAT YOU IN THE YEAR 2007 IS DOING AN ANALYSIS OF AN ACCOUNT WRITTEN 4000 YEARS AGO PLEASE DO A BETTER JOB OF KNOWING THE GOD BEHIND THIS.

YOU CAN SAY YOU WANT TO KILL YOURSELF NOW IT IS YOUR CHOICE JUST AS YOU WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN.

YOU WILL HOWEVER BE READY TO STAND BEFORE THIS SAME GOD THAT GIVES YOU THE CHOICE TO CHOOSE WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO BELEIVE WHEN YOU ALLOW HIM TO SHOW YOU YOUR SINS AND THERE YOU CANNOT GIVE ANY EXCUSE.


IF JEPHTAH KNEW THOU SHALL NOT KILL HE WOULD HAVE PROMISED THIS.

SELAH
Christianity EtcRe: Concept Of Sin: Explanation Needed! by Backslider(m): 3:37pm On Mar 16, 2007
You ask so many questions do you want an answer?
Christianity EtcRe: A Question Of Morality: Jephtah by Backslider(m): 12:40pm On Mar 16, 2007
@kaG

YOU MUST UNDERSTAND GOD BY GOING TO HIM DIRECTLY READ THE BIBLE AT LEAST 2CE AND THEN YOU WILL BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE MIND OF GOD.

THE BIBLE HAS A COMPILATION OF EVENTS POINTING TO THE MIND OF GOD YOU MUST ALWAYS USE SCRIPTURE TO INTEPRETE SCRIPTURE ANYWHERE YOU DONT DO THIS YOU ARE EITHER A FANATIC OR A HERETIC IN THE MAKING.

BUT MORE SO YOU MUST HAVE A SOUND SPIRIT CALLED THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH TO KNOW THE SCRIPTURE IF NOT IT WILL BE COMPLETE JARGONS.

LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF JESUS WE ARE NOT TO PUT EMBELLISHMENTS WHEN TALKING OR MAKING A REQUEST.

Matthew 5:37
But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

THIS IS THE SITUATION OF THE CHURCH TODAY WHERE THE "CHRISTIANS" STEAL MONEY AND COME TO CHURCH AND GIVE GOD HIS "SHARE". THIS IS THE SPIRIT OF THE ANTICHRIST.

YOU GO TO CHURCH THE PREACHING IS GET RICH AND BRING THE OFFERING AND TITHE. YOU WONDER WETHER YOU ARE LISTENING TO A RAP ARTIST.

THE CHURCH IS NO MORE A MORAL AUTHORITY AGAIN EVEN SHANGO WORSHIPERS AND OTHER IDOL WORSHIPER HAVE SOME DEGREE OF MORALITY.

THERE WAS A CHURCH HERE THAT SOME PEOPLE SMOKED WEE! IMAGINE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CAUGHT WERE LAUGHING WHEN THEY WERE OPENLY REBUKED BY THE PASTOR OF THE CHURCH THEY BELONGED TO THE DRAMA GROUP.

THE LYING SPIRIT IN THE CHURCH NOW IS SO FREELY EXPRESSED PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN JESUS AND THE HARDLY TALK ABOUT THE HOLINESS OF GOD. IT IS GOD PROTECT ME MY FAMILY MY MARRIAGE MY BUSINESS MY JOB. NOTHING FOR GOD BUT OFFERING, NO MERCY FOR PEOPLE SOME WILL TAKE THEIR MONEY AND THEY WILL NEVER SHOW MERCY.

SOME CHURCHES WHEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND YOU GO TO THEM THEY WILL ASK YOU DO YOU PAY YOUR OFFERING? IMAGINE! WHERE IS KINDNESS WHERE IS LOVE WHERE IS MERCY WHERE GENEROSITY THAT EVEN EVIL MEN HAVE.

THE CHURCH IS LIKE A SHOP WHERE ANYTHING IS SOLD, LIKE MAKE ME FEEL GOOD SERMONS, MOTIVATIONAL MESSAGES AND PROSPERITY MESSAGES.

I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE PREACHERS CHALLENGING TO HOLINESS RATHER YOU HAVE PREACHERS TALKING ABOUT MONEY MONEY MONEY AND MONEY.

THEY USE THIS MONEY TO BUILD BUILDINGS THAT WILL HAVE NO MORAL HOLD ON MAN. DONT GET ME WRONG THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS SPENDING BUT THIS PEOPLE ARE BUILDING TO MARKET THE NAME OF THE PASTOR. SOME PEOPLE CAN EVEN SAY THE GOD OF PASTOR SO AND SO. OR THEY SAY THE GOD OF XYZ BIBLE CHURCH.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell Fire: A Twisted Truth Untangled by Backslider(m): 1:39pm On Mar 15, 2007
Hellfire and Brimstone
The Dark Shroud
For generations, the threat of eternal torture has hung like a dark, foreboding shroud over the heads of God's holy nation. There can be no doubt, "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" (Pr 9:10a). Healthy fear is merely awareness of a power source that poses a potential threat to those who attempt to misuse it. Who, in their right mind, would attempt to restrain a diesel truck unassisted by man or machine? Certainly the being credited with the creation of the earth, the one in control of nature's awesome power, is worthy of such respect. After all, "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (He 10:31).

Terror Tactics
Healthy fear, based on truth, is one thing but intimidation using fear without biblical foundation is quite another. Many have been so frightened by this message that they have been driven by fear to the church altar. The verbal picture these ministers of terror paint is one of eternal suffering; everlasting torture for anyone who has not received Jesus as their savior. Is this scriptural? When we look through the sacred text do we find a God who punishes indiscriminately? Does God, with equal fury, allocate the same punishment to those who have disobeyed Him in ignorance as He has for those who have deliberately betrayed and rebelled against Him? Is our God a God of love (1 Jn 4:cool and patience or a cruel god of radical, inconsistent judgment? Is He a righteous judge or a bigoted tyrant? If there is no variance in the degree of our culpability, then how are those who teach the word held to a stricter judgment? How can we be judged according to our works? Certainly our works are not all the same, so then, how can our judgment or punishment be the same?
Deceptive Doctrine
Many of us, if not most, were taught that unless we believed in Christ we were destined to be cast alive into the flames of hell where we would be tormented in the fire night and day forever. This is not only false but isn't even sound doctrinally unless hell and the lake of fire are the same place but they're not.
Rev 20:14
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
From the beginning, God's plan has been one of sacrifice, mercy and love. (2 Pet 3:9). Much of what we've been taught about judgment, hell and eternal punishment falls under the heading of false teaching; it does not conform to God's written word.
God's Mercy In Eden
God's first intervention to save man from his ongoing quest to destroy himself was in the Garden of Eden. The moment man succumbed to the seductive temptation offered him by the serpent of Eden; he became eligible to perish in the eternal flames of the fiery lake. It is important to note that man, as long as he remained mortal, could perish, which is to say, not be able to live forever in flesh or spirit. If however, he could become immortal, to live forever, his punishment for failing God would be compounded to the maximum. In effect, his punishment would be never ending. Eating the forbidden fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil brought great sorrow upon Adam and Eve but through God's intervention, the punishment for this sin could now be, at God's discretion, limited.
Let us not forget there were two trees of note in the Garden of Eden. In the beginning, this second tree, the tree of life, was fully available to man. Contrary to the tree of knowledge, which only brought death, this tree held the promise of life everlasting and was there to be taken. After sin was introduced, this tree, the tree of life, became even more of a threat to man than its companion. It posed an unseen and unrecognized danger. If man ate of this tree in his fallen state, he would live forever in this condition and his punishment would then, by necessity, be eternal. It is at this point we first see God's mercy.
God saw this dilemma immediately and moved quickly to prevent a bad situation from becoming much worse. By placing angelic guards at this tree, He protected man from bringing eternal consequences upon himself. Man could not reach the tree of life without causing himself mortal death thus he could not eat of it and live to endure everlasting torment. Now that God could no longer trust man, because of his fallen nature, he, man would have to be driven from the garden.
Gen 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
God had now limited man; he was mortal, he had temporary life but nothing more, and even that was moving toward death with every passing moment.
By God's intervention two important things had been accomplished. First, man could not live forever to suffer eternally in his fallen state and second, he could perish in his sin; he could burn up, dissolve, be no more which is preferable to the alternative. God had another plan to bring eternal life to man; God's plans are never thwarted by anything or anyone. He had planned to offer eternal life to man and He would through His only begotten son. Before this could be accomplished, the damages caused to man's relationship with God would have to be repaired and full payment made for all the damages done.

The terrible, hereditary, spiritual disease called sin, introduced by one man, would now spread to all men and would now have to be healed before eternal life could be offered again (1 Pet 2:24). If sin was introduced by one man then by one man it could be removed providing, this man could uphold the law of righteousness perfectly (Ro 5:12-19).

The Last Round-Up
In Matthew twenty-five, beginning in verse thirty-one, Christ describes His coming and the gathering of those who wear His brand (the seal of the Holy Spirit-Eph 1:13). He mentioned this moment and its events often. Consider the parables of "the wheat and the tares" (Mat 13:24-30, 36-43) and the "great net" (Mat 13:47-51) or His metaphor of the sheep and goats given in Matthew 25 (Mat 25:31-46) to mention only a few. In each of these, Christ and His holy angels deal with separating His redeemed children, living and asleep (dead), from those alive in the flesh but dead spiritually and their physically and spiritually dead forbearers that await judgment and final disposition.
Rev 20:5
5 but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Those who remain alive at His coming but do not rise to meet the Lord are depicted as goats while the resurrected, both alive and sleeping, are pictured as sheep.
At the time of Christ's coming, all those remaining on earth fall into two camps. They are either sheep who know and follow the voice of their chief shepherd, Jesus (Jn 5:28-29), or they are goats who have received the mark of the beast. The sheep are changed in the wink of an eye and gathered by the holy angels to meet Christ in the air (1 Cor 15:51-52, Mat 24:31). These goats having worshipped Satan are, at the point of the resurrection, all that remains of earth's living inhabitants and everyone of them, without exception, bares the brand of the beast on their right hand or forehead. As the cross is synonymous with Christians so the pentagram is with worshippers of Satan. This five pointed star with its two legs pointed up is often shown as the head of a goat; a symbol often seen in Satanic covens.
Rev 13:8
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:16-18
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
These goats are the only body of people known to receive the full measure of God's wrath. This unique herd of goats will be granted an eternal life of torment; their punishment will be without end. Though rebellious and sinful, they will be granted eternal life to suffer in the flames of the unquenchable lake of fire created for the devil and his angels.
Matt 25:41
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matt 25:46
46 and these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Rev 14:9-11
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
What about the unredeemed dead who have neither received the mark of the beast or Christ?
Three Possible Ends
There are only three ways in which man can ultimately be dispatched. One, he can receive Christ and live eternally in God's kingdom. Two, he can worship the beast and his image, receiving his mark and spend eternity in torment or three, through ignorance or disbelief, be consumed by the fire and brimstone becoming the victim of the second death. We have a choice because we know Him, some have little choice because they've never heard of Christ or the good news of forgiveness and reconciliation. Even these should have known, through nature, that there exists only one creator of heaven and earth.
Rom 1:20
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Who is that creator? Jesus Christ (Jn 1:1-3, Col 1:15-16)! I have a brother named Peter. If I refer to my sibling as Peter or as brother, am I not addressing the same person? If I speak to the creator of heaven and earth as creator or as Jesus, am I not speaking to the same person? When one, untouched by the gospel, believes in the maker of heaven and earth and trusts Him for his deliverance, will God reject him?
Twice Dead
Jude 11-12
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
In the book of Revelation, chapter twenty and verse six, Jesus said, "Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power". The first resurrection involves all practicing believers, alive and dead, who are gathered from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other (1 Thes 4:16-17, 1 Cor 15:51-52, Mat 24:31). What is this second death which has no power over the redeemed? If the first death is the death of the flesh and all must die this death prior to judgment, then what is this second death?
Heb 9:27
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
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Let's reason this out. We are born in the flesh once and after believing in Christ, we are born in the Spirit thus we are born again. If we die our first death in the flesh, then what would be the second death? Could it possibly be the death of man's spirit?
The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. This is why Jesus said, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be filled" (Mat 5:18). All is fulfilled following the great judgment and heaven and earth do pass away.
Rev 21:1
21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Those who have not walked in God's grace shall be judged by His law (Heb 9:15).
Rom 7:5-6
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
What about those born before the law? They will be held accountable as well and will perish without the law.
Rom 2:12
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
The wages of sin is death.
Rom 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
What is death? The word "death" (Strong's #2288) in Greek is thanatos (than-at-os) which means figuratively or literally, death. There is nothing mysterious or complicated about it, death is death and death is the total and complete absence of life, inanimate. When you're dead, you're dead; you cease to be. When the body dies it returns to the dust, the inanimate substance it was before receiving God's breath of life and when your spirit dies, it ceases to be as well.
Gen 2:7
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 3:19
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
The second death is the death of the soul, a word which covers our total being of flesh and spirit. Anyone overtaken by death while not walking in the path of righteousness is under penalty of eternal death. Why do we say eternal death? Because there are many believers who now sleep in the dust who will awake from this temporary death when they hear the voice of the Son of God (Jn 5:28). These others of whom we speak, will become the victims of eternal death; they will never wake again. They will not experience the temporary death Christians experience. Instead, they will receive the total destruction of their very being; the end of their very existence.
James 5:19-20
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

From Death To Life
In the New Testament gospel of John, chapter five, verse twenty-four, Jesus made three important points. He said,:
1. "he who hears my word and believes in Him who sent me has everlasting life.
2. and does not come into judgment
3. but has passed from death into life."
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To this, He adds, "He who believes in me has everlasting life" (Jn 3:16, 6:47). If we keep His word, we shall never see death (Jn 8:51). Scripture makes it clear that all men face mortal death (Heb 9:27, Gen 3:19, Job 21:23-26). If this is so, then Jesus is not speaking of our mortal death but rather the death of our soul (Jn 8:24, Ro 1:32, 5:21, 6:16, 21, 8:6).
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At this point, someone is bound to question this conclusion by reminding us that Enoch and Elijah seemingly escaped mortal death. However, a closer look reveals that it catches up to them before the second coming of Christ (Re 11:7). Others may also object on the grounds that many shall be alive at the time of His coming and therefore, do not die. If this is so, how are we passed from death into life (Jn 5:24, 1 Jn 3:14)? How do we receive new bodies if the old ones still live? Are we not appointed once to die (Heb 9:27) and our bodies allocated to rot and return to dust (Gen 3:19)? To be passed from death into life we must first die. So, believers are passed from death into life (Jn 6:47). What if we don't believe in Christ, will we still pass from death to life or will we be condemned to pass from death to death; from mortal death to spiritual death? Are the wages of sin death or eternal torment (Ro 6:23)? Isn't mortal death the result of sin and isn't spiritual death the result of rejecting the only begotten son of God?
John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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Doesn't the death of the soul come about by walking in the darkness of sin? We know that the blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin if we walk in the light of righteousness as Christ does (1 Jn 1:7). What if we choose to walk in the darkness of sin instead, does the blood of Christ still cleanse us from all sin? Isn't spiritual death the payment for unconfessed, unrepented and thus, uncleansed sin (Ro 6:23, 1 Jn 1:7, 1 Jn 1:9)? What else could the scriptures be referring to when speaking of the second death? This death is reserved for all who have not believed in Christ (Re 2:11, 20:6, 14, 21:8, Mat 7:21-22, Lk 6:46). If the first death terminates mortal life then the second must certainly end all spiritual life.
One Exception
There can be only one exception to this rule and God Himself, has made it. He has promised eternal torment to all who worship the beast and his image and receive his mark. This group will receive the everlasting punishment and shame promised to them for t heir betrayal (Mat 25:46, Re 14:9-11). If everyone who rejects or fails to receive Jesus is condemned to eternal torture, then why has Christ declared the punishment for worshipping the beast to be worse than all others (Re 14:9-11).
Why does He say they receive the full strength of His wrath? If all the unredeemed received the same punishment, then what would be the purpose of this warning? Where's the threat?
The lake of fire is not the same place as hell like so many believe (see chapter ten). It was designed and built for the devil and his angels.
Matt 25:41
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
But all who have not believed in Christ are ultimately dumped there. Most will be consumed in its flames and be no more. The maker of the soul will become its destroyer and this is preferable to the alternative. Those who have received the mark of the bea st and worshiped the beast and his image will not be able to die but will instead be tormented forever.
Isa 66:24
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
Matt 25:46
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Rev 14:9-11
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 13:8
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:16-17
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
From the beginning, God demonstrated His mercy upon fallen man by shielding him from the eternal death of the soul. When man fell to sin, God withheld immortality from him so that, in his fallen state, man could not live forever.
Gen 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Can the soul die? Is that possible? If we turn a backslidden brother toward Christ and repentance, have we not saved his soul from death (Js 5:20)? The answer is positively, yes (Js 5:19-20)!
No Judgment?
When Jesus said, "We shall not come into judgment" (Jn 5:24), He was speaking of the great, white throne judgment spoken of in Rev 20:11-14. Make no mistake, the redeemed will stand before the judgment seat of Christ as their names are read from the Lamb' s book of life but each of these will receive a full pardon. Why? Because Christ paid the price as the propitiation for their sin.
Rom 3:25
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
1 John 2:2
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 4:10
10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
Luke 20:36
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Rev 20:12
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:15
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev 21:27
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
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Note: In Rev 20:12, the dead are judged out of the books (books, plural) not book (singular). The book spoken of is the Lamb's book of life and the books are the judgment books of punishment and death. The Lamb's book is a book of pardon and grace. No judgment falls on those whose names appear within it. Christ alone is the presiding justice of this court and though all living and dead must appear before Him, not all will be judged by Him (2 Cor 5:10, Jn 5:22-24). However, as Christians we will be require d to give an account of ourselves (Ro 14:12).
That Isn't Fair
How often have we, as children, uttered the words "that isn't fair" when our parents curtailed one of our activities or grounded us for violating a family rule? In hindsight, most of us would have to admit that most of the time, they were right and their decisions were just, if not a bit lenient. I have contemplated the justice of God and have questioned it much the same way as a precocious adolescent. If the prophet David meditated upon the law of God, why not me? Children reach an age when their minds a re filled with questions. Daddy, why is the sky blue and do dogs go to Heaven when they die, etc? Like a young child, I too, have had questions for my father; my heavenly father. For example, if the members of a remote tribe never heard of Jesus or saw a bible, would they be tortured night and day forever and ever when they died? What about nice people who lived moral lives but never developed a personal relationship with Christ, would they suffer the same eternal torment reserved for a mass murderer? If a boy or girl of twelve dies as a result of a car accident or fatal disease, is it fair; is it God's justice for this child to spend eternity in torture for their sins while giving the same sentence to a hardened child rapist and killer? We know that teachers of the word receive a stricter judgment.
James 3:1
3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
Doesn't this indicate that those with more opportunity and knowledge are held to a higher level of responsibility and therefore receive a greater punishment for failure?
According To Their Works
If the body of Christ is subject to the laws of grace, then by what standard are the unredeemed judged? Perhaps they're judged by the Law of Moses. If not, why would Jesus have said, "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot o r one title will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled". The legal foundations for most of the world's greatest civilizations have been built upon the Ten Commandments. God has assured us that no man can be justified by the works of the law so it is to Satan's advantage to base the world's legal system on them. If the law continues to survive till all be fulfilled, then who does it survive to judge? Civilization has placed itself in obedience to it. Therefore, all those who serve it are sub jects of it and will be judged by it.
Rom 7:1
7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Are Christians free from obeying the law of the land? No; we must give our governments the obedience due them, at the same time, remembering to keep our priorities straight by not giving to our nation any obedience which runs contrary to the will of God.
Matt 22:21
21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Most earthly law is initiated for our protection and God has authorized its enforcers to punish all offenders (Ro 13:1-4). But we must always remember when forced to make a choice between serving the law of men or serving God, God must always be our choice (Ac 4:19, 5:29). All those who served as ministers of Satan while appearing to me ministers of righteousness will be judged according to their works, just as Alexander the coppersmith will most likely be (2 Tim 4:14).
2 Cor 11:15
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
All the unredeemed will be resurrected to judgment in the second resurrection (the second resurrection is the resurrection of the unsanctified dead) and judged out of the judgment books according to their works.
Rev 20:12-13
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Once judgment has taken place, all that remains is execution; as each guilty offender receives the punishment appropriate to those evil works which they did in the flesh. Each one of them will have their portion in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone. Their suffering will be in direct proportion to their sin according to the wisdom and justice of almighty God. Like wafer's dissolving at different rates in boiling water, these souls will dissolve into nothingness. They are able to pass from existence because they were never granted eternal life. They will be terminated by the second death.
Fallen angels and men, who have chosen to follow Satan by worshipping the beast, will receive a much greater punishment. They will suffer in this boiling brimstone lake for eternity, unable to die and unable to quench the flames that eternally torment their soul. It will likely be similar to the torment encountered during the tribulation, when the locusts came and stung men with a scorpion-like sting. At that time, they sought death but could not find it and this may now become their spiritual fate for eternity. Those angels and men may seek death but be unable to find it.
Those that chose to worship Satan as king will get to spend eternity being tormented with him and with the beast and son of perdition (false prophet) known as the antichrist.
Rev 20:10
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Death And Prison Destroyed
All the unredeemed will be destroyed burned up in the lake of fire; all but those who accepted the mark of the beast. Those left alive will be alive forever, both those in the lake of torment and those in the kingdom of God who abide eternally with Chris t. There is no need for death or the one who once held its power and there is no longer any need for the prison that once held the unredeemed and rebellious for the Day of Judgment; the prison known as Hades (hell), the place of the dead. As trash, both h ell and death are cast into the lake of fire for there is no longer a need for either. (For clarification, read chapter ten (10) "When Christians Die.)
Rev 20:13-14
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
To Die Or To Perish
There may possibly be some skeptics who think that the term "perish" is less rigid than the term "death" but an examination of this word reveals this to be a false assumption. The word "perish" may be found in Strong's Greek dictionary under their number #622. In Greek, the word for perish is "apollumi" (ap-ol-loo-mee) and means to destroy fully and once again it means this figuratively and literally. There is simply no way around this meaning. It calls for the complete and total destruction of the soul. "Whosoever believes in Him should not perish"…(Jn 3:16). What if you don't believe in Him, what happens then? You perish! When we speak of death in terms of Romans 6:23, we're not speaking of mortal death but spiritual death; the death of the soul.
Rom 6:21-23
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 8:6
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Once again, if belief in Christ brings spiritual life (Jn 5:24, 6:47), then what does disbelief bring?
2 Cor 1:9-10
9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:
10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;
Who is it that encourages this disbelief that brings eternal death?
Heb 2:14
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
We know that no man is tempted beyond his capacity to resist (1 Co 10:13) but when, through lust, we give in to temptation, sin is born and when sin is allowed to grow and prosper, it brings death; spiritual death.
James 1:14-16
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
James 5:20
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Christ alone holds the keys to eternal life, death and the place of the dead (Re 1:18). We are admonished to be over-comers; to overcome evil with good (Ro 12:21). By so doing, we will not be stung by the second death.
Rev 2:11
11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Luke 20:36
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
God will destroy all who have chosen to follow false teachers, man-pleasing hypocrites who offer the same seductive lies that Jezebel told (Re 2:23). All such deceivers will be completely destroyed in the lake of fire;
Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Rev 21:8
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
All except those who wear the mark of the beast, their fate will be much worse (Mt 25:46, Re 14:11). They can not die.
Death Not Torment
All peoples, tongues and nations who have not believed and followed the only begotten Son of God; all who have died in ignorance, those who have not worshipped the beast, his image or taken his mark will be extinguished as the flame on a candle. Each will suffer for a time, the duration of which will be in direct proportion to their works, thus each shall have their individual part in the lake of fire but when their portion is fully paid, they shall perish. We have God's word on it!
Jesus, referring to His sheep, said, "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish".
John 10:27-28
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
There are many who are not His sheep, many who have chosen the broad path leading to destruction (Mt 7:13-14). What about these? As believers, we are as a sweet fragrance before God and the aroma of death to those who are perishing.
2 Cor 2:15-16
15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?
Note: They perish; they come to complete and total destruction, they are fully destroyed. Many of those who perish (not suffer eternally) do so because they chose to believe lies rather than God's truth (2 Thes 2:10). What is truth? Truth is the word of G od (Jn 17:17). If we would but study the word of God, we would learn what God teaches on these things. Let's heed the advice given in His word for the days ahead grow increasingly evil and deceivers more abundant.
2 Tim 2:15
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Tim 3:13-15
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Some things are just too important to leave to others! "Study to show yourself approved."
Christianity EtcRe: Covering Of Hair For Christain Women, Is It Compulsory? by Backslider(m): 9:55am On Mar 15, 2007
1 Cor 11:1-16
1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.


All scripture is given by inspiration of God and therefore, though the Apostle Paul is writing this instruction, the Holy Spirit is leading him into truth.

2 Tim 3:16
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

John 16:13
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.



This teaching opens with Paul's admonishment to keep the ordinances as he delivered (taught) them to us. In chapter eleven of First Corinthians, Paul teaches the observance of two ordinances. First, the ordinance of honoring headship and the second, that of observing communion at the Lord's table.



We would do well to note that Paul's first concern is that we obey these ordinances as he, led by the Spirit, delivered them (taught them) to us. Paul expects all church members to follow them as he has outlined without revision, addition or omission. He makes no allowances for changing them in any way. If we therefore, follow any teaching which adds, removes or changes any part of these ordinances, we contradict the authority which has inspired Paul to write these instructions. Such a contradiction to God's leading and His word can only be interpreted as sin; the sin of disobedience. All this can be discerned in the first two verses of this chapter.

1 Cor 11:1-2

1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.



Note, it says, "As I delivered them to you" not "as you would like".



Honor Your Authority

Paul then, having established his apostolic authority precedes to explain what he wants both men and women of God to do. We are to physically demonstrate our understanding and acceptance of God's order of authority. This physical demonstration of our submission has been provided for the sake of the angels.



A Matter Of Order

Paul explains that in the order of God's authority, Christ is subject to the power (authority) of His God and Father. Paul continues by instructing man that he must be subject to the authority of Christ and demonstrate this subjection by removing any coverings he may have on his head while praying or prophesying aloud. Paul acknowledges a difference between the way women demonstrate their recognition of authority (headship) and men do. He explains men must remove the covering from their head when praying or prophesying aloud because they're made in God's image and thus are His glory. We worship an unseen God, a God of Spirit and so it would seem that the unseen covering, when removed, best represents man's submission to God's authority (power).



Conversely, women are instructed to wear a covering on their heads while praying or prophesying aloud as a symbol that they recognize the authority (power) of man over them. The power on their head is man's authority, demonstrated visually by the covering they are to wear on their head. This is required because the woman was taken from man and thus is his glory. When angels may be present and able to hear her pray or prophesy aloud she must demonstrate her submission to man's authority (power) over her by wearing a visible covering. Thus by a visible covering the woman demonstrates to the angels her understanding of God's order of authority in the same way as does man by removing his covering. The woman wears a visible sign (the covering) over her head to honor her visible authority; the man. The failure of a man to remove his covering while praying or prophesying dishonors his head (Christ) and any failure of the woman to wear a covering while praying or prophesying dishonors her head, the man. Women are required to obey their husbands as unto the Lord (Eph 5:22) thus we may conclude that any dishonor to the man also brings dishonor to the Lord.



Eph 5:22
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.



It's No Misunderstanding

Some may claim that the word "man" used in this text applies only to husbands and therefore, doesn't apply to single women. This is false because, not every woman is married but every woman that prays or prophesies aloud with her head uncovered dishonors her head.

1 Cor 11:5
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.



Note: it doesn't say every married woman but every woman, indicating single or married. The need to uncover, in the case of the man, or cover, in the case of the woman, is a gesture designed for the observance of angels.



The Reason For This Display

The need to do this most likely goes back to the great rebellion of heaven when a third of heaven's angels chose to ignore God's authority. These angles turned their back on God's authority (power) and left His divine protection to pursue their own will and satisfy their own appetites. Since this disaster, there has been a need for God's faithful to outwardly demonstrate their submission to His divine plan of authority. Again, this is done for the sake of the angels.



God Alone Sees

If angels were able to read the hearts of all humans, there would be no need for this visible symbol. It appears that angels neither see nor hear what we think or silently pray.

I King 8:39
39 Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of menwink

2 Chr 6:30
30 Then hear thou from heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and render unto every man according unto all his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou only knowest the hearts of the children of mensmiley

1 Sam 16:7
7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Jer 17:9-10
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings

1 Pet 3:4
4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.



God alone is privileged to know these things.

Heb 4:12
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.




A Demonstration Of Obedience

When we, as men and women of God, submit to this ordinance, we demonstrate our loyalty to the principles of God's authority. When we obey this ordinance, we join the ranks of those two third angels that kept faith with God. These same angels that will one day come to collect those of us who have submitted ourselves to Him.



In the verses following verse seven of I Corinthians eleven, Paul explains the reasons why men and women are required to observe this ordinance differently. He explains that in the beginning of creation man did not come from woman but woman from man. This is one reason for the woman to have a sign of authority on her head. To minimize any dissension this might cause, Paul reminds us that both men and women are one; stating that neither man or woman is without the other.


Doesn't Nature Teach Us

Paul, guided by the Holy Spirit, asks us to search within ourselves for the truth about the covering and by this suggests, that the spirit within us will agree. The spirit within will affirm that even our own choice of hair length suggests a natural awareness, a sensitivity to this issue. Men seem naturally to seek shorter hair and regard long hair as feminine. Thus, they reject much of their natural covering. Women on the other hand, tend to cover their heads with long hair showing a natural desire to cover; a covering which has been given to them by God and designed to bring them a natural beauty (glory). This illustration is given purely as an example as evidenced by the way it is introduced, “Doth not even nature itself teach you…” (1 Co11:14).



In no way does this suggest that hair may be substituted for a covering of cloth or other suitable material. When praying or prophesying, a suitable covering must be found that can be put on or removed, else why would it only be required when praying or prophesying? If the natural hair were sufficient then it would be foolish to require it only when praying or prophesying as the woman would be covered all the time. God does nothing that's foolish.


Two Sides Of The Issue

Most churches today seem to favor the idea that the covering is no longer required. They feel a woman's long hair is sufficient to satisfy this requirement. Few church fellowships practice this custom if any and most tend to consider it a legalistic practice. If, however, you were to ask these same groups how much of the New Testament they should obey and follow, most would answer, "all of it.” If we believe the Lord’s commandments are not burdensome, and if we are to keep the traditions of the Apostles, how then can we avoid this ordinance?

I Jn 5:3
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

II Th 2:15
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.


Again, if long hair is an adequate way to meet this requirement, then how do we explain it only being required when praying or prophesying? We may note that among today's Christian women it is common to see short hair often rivaling the hairstyles of men. What kind of covering is this? Please note that while a covering is required when a woman prays aloud or gives prophecy, she is not biblically required to have long hair. Long hair is a God given and God permitted adornment, it is not a commandment.



Today's women sometimes complain that long hair is too much to fuss with or state, "I can't be bothered with it every time I pray, it'll mess my hair," or "I'll look foolish.". The intent of this entire New Testament ordinance is to show the angels that men have not abandoned their honor of Christ and women haven't ceased to honor the male authority in their life. If we discontinue this practice, what message do we send the angels? If our women pin some fashionable, little lace cloth to the back of their head, covering only a small portion of their head, what does this demonstrate? Perhaps a careless, halfhearted sense of obedience to God's request and only partial submission to His order of authority.



The Other Position

The other position most often encountered is that of wearing it all the time. If it’s worth wearing to show obedience during prayer or prophecy, why not all the time? This ordinance is a sign of submission in the same way that feet washing is. If wearing the covering all the time is proper for the woman then I suppose men should never wear a hat, even if working in sub-zero temperatures. Perhaps we could find some way to wash each other's feet constantly, also. smiley



If the ordinances intended men to remain uncovered always or women to cover always it would have said so. What harm can it do to remain covered all the time? Is it sin? If we, as leaders, remove any liberty that is ours in Christ, if we add any regulation which is not authorized, then we place His flock once more in bondage and that is sin. It's sin for the leaders to teach this and sin for those who follow this teaching. If women allow themselves to wear a covering all the time because they're used to it but instruct their daughters to wear only while praying and prophesying, then they sin by example like the Pharisees for they "say and do not."

Matt 23:3
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.



Some women feel it's better to wear it all the time, it's more obedient, while at the same time making the covering smaller and pushing it further and further to the rear of the head. If this isn't hypocrisy, I don't know what is. Why not simply obey the word of God as it is written, no more and no less, then maybe we can put an end to our endless wrangling about this subject.

It Should Be Obvious

1 Cor 11:16
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.



The last verse of this text is difficult for some to understand clearly; I confess it takes a little reasoning to work out. Realizing that all the previous verses in this chapter deal with reasons to cover and uncover, it's obvious that Paul is not suggesting that we abandon the ordinances he just finished teaching. We must remind ourselves that this entire teaching is given so we will obey this ordinance.

1 Cor 11:2
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.



Having stated this, we must conclude that this final verse must be understood this way. If any man comes to the church suggesting another means of observing respect for God's authority, let him know that in this church we observe no other custom than that which has been outlined here and all the other churches observe this same custom in the same way.


It's time we stopped saying we obey the entire New Covenant if we don't. Let's stop adding to it, subtracting from it or changing it and instead, why don’t we just do what it says from a willing and loving heart.




Summation



When a woman covers her head during public prayer or prophesy, she demonstrates her willing submission to the headship of man. In this act, she publicly recognizes him as the image and glory of God. When a woman speaks to God (prays) or for God (prophesies) she is spiritually standing before Him in the presence of His glory so it is fitting for her, as the glory of man, to cover herself thus concealing man’s glory in God’s presence.





It would be dishonest for any woman to cover herself while refusing to recognize the headship of man as the image and glory of God. The covering is a sign for angels, i.e. a language which indicates her acceptance of man’s headship. Thus, in her dissenting position, it would be improper for her to observe the practice of head covering. The covering should only be worn by women who honor and respect the headship of men.






Women who keep the practice of head covering do so as a public testimony to their acceptance of God’s order of authority. Women who do not cover when they pray or prophesy do so as a public testimony to their rejection of God’s order of authority, i.e. the headship of man. No church should ever impose this ordinance on any woman who does not agree with its meaning or practice. If a woman chooses not to recognize man’s headship, it would be hypocritical of her to maintain the practice of head covering. By refusing to wear it, she makes clear to the church, that she won’t be subject to male authority in the home or the church and though this is dishonoring to her husband or her church leadership, it is also a truthful, public, demonstration of the life she has chosen to live. Her shame is that she reveals this to the whole church by refusing to be covered thus, it is as though she has had her head shaved for all to see.




The Christian man, by removing his head covering, demonstrates his submission to the headship of Christ. Men who refuse to remove their head covering during public prayer or prophesy, dishonor their head, Jesus Christ and reveal their disobedience to the word of God. They hide from view their head, the representative image of God and His glory. By so doing, they deny the headship of Christ. Such men should be removed from the assembly as disobedient, divisive and/or contentious. By not removing their covering, they demonstrate their refusal to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord. This is not a difficult ordinance to obey for those whose hearts are willing to serve God. Why not demonstrate your willingness to serve God; He sacrificed His only begotten Son to both serve and save you?
Christianity EtcRe: Judas Iscariot: Betrayer Or Enabler? by Backslider(m): 8:46am On Mar 15, 2007
Why would the authorities pay to have someone pointed out to them whom they already knew?


very simple in those days we did not have Photo pictures for positive Identification. JUDAS HAD TO HELP. They had to be sure they have the Right person. HIS PAY FOR THAT JOB IS 30 PIECES OF SILVER.

REMEMBER JESUS WAS A NAZERENE
Christianity EtcRe: Judas Iscariot: Betrayer Or Enabler? by Backslider(m): 8:43am On Mar 15, 2007
@GoodGuy

One great Preacher once said. That if our wisdom is to KNOW and has no SPIRITUAL INFLUENCE ON OUR LIFE THEN IT IS ALL DUNG.

I HAVE LEARNT THAT IF IT IS KNOWLEDGE OF GOD SATAN HAS IT PLENTY LOOK FROM ETERNITY TO ETERNITY HE HAS BEEN WITH GOD HE WAS CAST DOWN TO TIME.

KNOWLEDGE CANNOT SAVE SATAN NOR HIS SERVANT FROM THE COMING WRATH OF GOD.

NOW I HAVE EXPLAINED THE CHOICES THAT WERE GIVEN TO JUDAS, HE CHOOSE DEATH.

YOU WILL SEE THAT JUDAS WAS REMORSE AND KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE CHOOSE THIS.

PETER BETRAYED JESUS HE DID NOT KILL HIMSELF.


I REPEAT AGAIN IF ALL THIS EXERCISES IS ALL ABOUT OUR BIBLE KNOWLEDGE THEN WE HAVE WASTED TIME.

SELAH
Christianity EtcRe: Covering Of Hair For Christain Women, Is It Compulsory? by Backslider(m): 7:19pm On Mar 14, 2007
READ your scripture well cover for the angels.

I know about Church history and i have seen ancient drawings the old Christians covered there head and we(ladies) are supposed to do when pray and preaching Simple and short.

It is in the New and old testament.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree? by Backslider(m): 4:52pm On Mar 14, 2007
Behold the axe is laid unto every tree that beareth not forth fruit it is hewn down and cast into the Fire.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do You Fast ? by Backslider(m): 4:46pm On Mar 14, 2007
THE LORD GOD LOVES A CONTRITE SPIRIT AND THIS ATMOSPHERE HELPS US TO BE HUMBLE.

FASTING ITSELF CANNOT DO ANYTHING.

YOU CAN FAST AND STILL GO TO HELL

A CONTRITE HEART IS WHAT IT HELPS TO PROMOTE TO THAT THE PRESENCE OF GOD WILL COME ON YOU.

MORE FAST = MORE BROKEN SPIRIT IN PRAYER= MORE PRESENCE OF GOD = MORE POWER FROM GOD


FASTING IS NOT POWER BY ITSELF.

REGARDS

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