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Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 6:18pm On Mar 26, 2007
@batu

I most say that I read your mail and I can tell you that you have your own opinion of scripture. I cannot impose my idea on you and I have said the truth.

I am don't intend for you or anyone to applaud as this woman is not ready to repent. I have told you that lets us SAY I WAS NEVER BORN AGAIN AM I NOT SAYING THE TRUTH?

SHOULD AS THE BODY OF CHRIST TOLERATE SIN?

OK IF I HAVE JUDGED HER WRONGLY WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME WHERE I HAVE GONE WRONG!!!!

I HAVE LISTENED TO HER MESSAGE YOU ARE NEVER BOTHERED TO KNOW THE TRUTH YOU THINK THAT COVERING AN EVIL WILL MAKE THE "CHRISTIANITY" BETTER ACCEPTED? THAT IS A LIE.

THIS THREAD WAS OPENED TO EXPOSE FALSE PREACHERS. IF YOU HAVE NY PROBLEM WITH THAT PLEASE EXPOSE ME. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL ME ANY NAME YOU LIKE, I WILL NEVER CALL YOU NAMES EXCEPT IT BE WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS AND DIRECT.

IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY POST FROM A WEBSITE PLEASE DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT DISPUTES THIS PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME I WILL APOLOGISE AND WRITE A REJOINDER THREAD.

PLEASE I AM VERY FAR FROM AMERICA BUT SHE HAS GRIP ON WOMAN THAT WILL GO DOWN THIS DAUGHTER OF JEZEBEL!

IF SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF CHRIST I WILL TELL YOU SO. THERE ARE OTHER WOMEN THAT PREACH ON MARRIAGES (BIMBO IS AN EXAMPLE) SHE IS NOT A CHARLATAN AND SHE DOES NOT PREACH SEXISM AS THIS WOMAN DOES PREACH.

WITH LATE BIMBO I MAY NOT AGREE WITH HER SOLELY BUT SHE DOES A GOOD JOB AT EDUCATING THE TEENAGERS FROM SIN.

MR BATU PLEASE JUST TELL ME I AM WRONG I WILL WITHDRAW ALL I HAVE SAID.

GOD BLESS YOU.
PoliticsRe: Pastors As Political Godfathers by Backslider(m): 12:59pm On Mar 26, 2007
@ donnie

We as Pure Christians are to stay out of politics! Our attention is on Godly living.
Christianity EtcRe: Should A Christian Celebrate Easter? by Backslider(m): 11:52am On Mar 26, 2007
@ Horus

Yes there is the Death and resurrection of Jesus that is why he came to this sinful world to save us from our sins. We can celebrate this with Immense prayer and Evangelism, not that we are not supposed to evangelize all year but we can just give ourselves more to his love.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Religion. by Backslider(m): 11:39am On Mar 26, 2007
@horus

Not so,

Religion is a relationship with a higher being.

There is however only one true religion this is the one with Christ The one that created the World and all things.

In TRUE Christianity it is a personal relationship and this is one Where the God of the Christians Dwells no where but in them According to their faith.

There is no other Name where no man shall be saved EXCEPT BY THE NAME OF JESUS. BECAUSE HE IS MAN AND GOD IN FLESH.
This is the love of the father that he sent his Only Begotten son and that whosoever believes in him should not perish but Have everlasting life.

He came to save from sin and death in hell fire.

Recieve him today and be free from hell fire and Sin. If however you don't receive him you Shall die in your sins and your soul will burn in hell for all eternity.

The love of God is powerful it compasses all understanding.

Selah
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 10:52am On Mar 26, 2007
@Batu,

Please Batu I beg you in the name of God that you Claim you serve.

Let us Suppose I am writing from hell, Supposing i am a sinner, worse than Pharisee, the Scribe and I don't know the Bible. Let me ask you Does that Run away from the fact that it is the truth I am saying?

I have stated my case so that people will know the truth of this people calling themselves Men and Women of God.

I say read the bible the pure word of God. Leave out this people Mark them The bible says.

WHICH WORD WILL YOU TAKE JESUS OR THAT OF MEN.

FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS VERY SERIOUS.

APOSTLE PAUL SAID "

2 Corinthians 11

1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

5For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.


6But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

7Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?


8I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

9And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.

10As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.

11Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.

12But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.

13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.


14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

16I say again, let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.

17That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.

18Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also.

19For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.

20For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face.

21I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak foolishly,) I am bold also.

22Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.

23Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.

24Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.

25Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;

26In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;

27In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and unclothedness.

28Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.

29Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?


30If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.

31The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.


32In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me:

33And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands


THIS IS PAUL STATEMENT. MAY YOU WOULD CALL PAUL WHAT ?

READ WITH UNDERSTANDING = SELAH
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 6:32am On Mar 26, 2007
@Babyosisi

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS.


Bishop(?) Weeks lives in adultery with a divorced woman - Juanita. If she is a prophetess, how come she does not live according to the Word of the Lord? (see 1 Cor. 7:10-11) Doesn't it appear she's living large and loving it? According to the Word - "He [she] that loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him [her]." Test the spirits according to the Word.

Juanita Bynum

Juanita Bynum appeared at Mega Fest 2004 with the following speakers: Creflo Dollar, Paula White, Joyce Meyer, Bishop Eddie Long, and Bishop T. D. Jakes.

Juanita Bynum:

"Pick up the phone! Keep dialing! Push redial! Oh, thank you Jesus. What's $1,000.00 when it's your time for divine release? What's $300.00 when it's your time for divine release? Single mother--I hear the Lord say, '$300.00 seed!' 7000 people God said, '$1,000.00' He said, 'Obey Him because the waters troubled!"


(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 8, 2005)

"Pick up the phone! Pick up the phone! Come on! God's talking to you!, It's your night for a divine release! You say, 'Woman of God--it's my last $1,000.00' It ain't your last--it's your favor! It's your favor! If you're watching by television tonight you may have nothing but $20.00 in your pocket. You better put it in an envelope--run down the street to the mailbox! Put it in the mailbox! Because you got to release something from your house tonight! Tonight is divine release! Tonight is divine release!, Tonight is divine release! I'm talking to you single mother. Every single parent--God dares you to sow a seed of $300.00. It's your divine release seed! You ain't got no place to turn! Come on! You're one check away from a divine release!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 8, 2005)


", You got a $1,000.00 in your checking account and you right at the last bit. But I promise you--if you turn it over to God and give it to God--He said, 'By 12 o'clock midnight the waters are troubled for you."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)


"The Holy Ghost has already spoken to me that there are 7,000 people that are watching right now. 7,000 people that God said, 'I'm requiring that you release this seed of divine release.' And you watch and see. You release that seed by 12 o'clock midnight and God will begin to turn it around!, God said, 'By midnight tonight divine release goes into operation!'"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)


"I got to say it one more time, 'The water is troubled.' There's somebody watching--you better get your wallet, it's troubled! You better shut your ears to the devil. They said, 'Yeah, that's television--they just want some more money!' No it isn't! The Lord has sent a prophet to tell you, 'That tonight your divine release--it takes place tonight!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 8, 2005)


"If you can't believe God to release a seed for a $1,000.00, He'll never trust you with a million! Oh my God!--I just said something. If you can't trust God to provoke you to release a seed of $300.00 He'll never be able to trust you in a ministry! Because this is your testing ground. This right here is your proving ground!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"You're sitting there--all of your bills are due. You're sitting there with a $300.00 seed. When you don't even know that what you got in your hand is your favor. You don't even know that your last seed--the seed that you give with pressure is your favor seed."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"Your miracle is attached to what's in your pocket right now! You're trying to hold on to it, but God sent me to tell you to, 'Let it go! Let it go!'"


(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"God said, 'Pick up the phone right now!' He said, '1,000 persons, you are going to sow the $1,000 seed.' You got to! You got to tonight! There is a miracle on it! I know what I'm talking about! He brought me in here to tell you that!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"Somebody right here in television land, God said, '$1,000.' You're sitting there saying, 'You know what? All I got is $1,000.' If that's all you got, oh Jesus! Then you got the miracle seed in your hand!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"Some of ya'll sitting there holding your wallet, God said, 'Give it to me! Give it to me! Give it to me! Show me how much you love me! Give it to me! I want to know if you're mine! If you're really mine. How come you can't hear me say, write the check?'"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, Fall Praise-A-Thon, November 1, 2004)

"You've got to release something--no I'm talking to you. Come on! Hear me tonight--you've got to release something! You've got to release it now! What's a $1,000.00 in exchange for eternal victory? Let me tell you something--pick up the phone right now! You need to go to the phone! It's time for you to sow! Because in order for God to give it to you you've got to divinely release something. What is a divine release seed? It is a seed that I can't afford to give, One check away from your breakthrough! One check away from your deliverance! Pick up the phone! It's a divine release!"

(Juanita Bynum, TBN, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," April 7, 2005)

"Forget about the man. And I want you to sow a seed of $20,000. I said, 'God, wait a minute. That's all I got. I said, 'In that is my payroll, I got to pay my people.' But God said, 'Let me tell you something. In order to get something that you ain't never had, you got to do something that you don't never do.' God who am I talking to tonight? Cause the Holy Ghost told me, 'That this is $1,000 night!' [Speaking in "tongues"] He said, 'This is $1,000 night!' I said, 'God why you say that?' He said, 'Because what I want to do, if they went past the twenties, if they went past the hundreds. He said, 'I'm looking for miracle people now! I'm looking for people that got big vision. I'm looking for someone that know that they know, that God got a divine destiny prepared for their life.' And if you got to go and bake cookies, if got to go and sell pies. I gotta get to my destiny! I gotta sow!!!!"

(Juanita Bynum, Audio-Clip, Bible Answerman, Hank Hanegraaff, March 27, 2004)

"Some of you watching and you might be saying, 'Let me pray about it and see if God is talking to me.' You don't have to see if God is talking to you if you got a $77.00 seed offering in any bank account or pocket. He is talking to you. You need to pick up the phone because I'm telling you, tonight there is an anointing in this studio with your name on it. You need to get a seed into the network tonight."

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"I'm going to get my seed in the ground because what I make happen for somebody else, God is going to make happen for me. Pick up the phone! I don't care if the lines are busy for half the night. Keep on trying! Put it on redial! Put it on redial! Tell the Devil that, 'I got an emergency! I need something! I need something from God and God needs something from me!'"

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"Pick up the phone! It may be your last $77.00 seed offering. But you pick up the phone and you make that pledge. Because God is ready to turn some things around for you!"

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"I feel an anointing for healing right now! I feel an anointing for healing right now! Every sick person that is watching me by television right now, your body is being healed! And in 48 hours you're going into a speedy recovery. [She speaks in tongues] Somebody help me bless the Lord. I speak healing now! I break the spirit of infirmity right now! Satan, I cast you out of that hospital room. I cast you out of that bedroom. I speak strength in the name of Jesus. I command your body to be healed!"

(Juanita Bynum, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

Marcus Lamb: "If you're one of those three people that the Lord spoke through me moments ago about a million dollar gift. Whether you're that professional athlete, whether you're that successful businessman or whether you're that woman that has been blessed. You do what the Lord is telling you to do. Because, when God speaks about a significant seed, He has a significant miracle on His mind."

Jaunita Bynum: "Yes!"

Marcus Lamb: "God doesn't play games! And that's serious business when you start talking about levels like that."

Jaunita Bynum: "That's Right!"

Marcus Lamb: "That's because God has a significant miracle on His mind

(Marcus Lamb, "Daystar Fall Share-A-Thon," September 21, 2004)

"Because of the vastness of the corruption in our society, the Lord's work cannot be finished with just the male gender."

(Juanita Bynum, Article, "Women In The Pulpit," Julia Duin)

When Chicago evangelist Juanita Bynum went on a 21-day fast, she said the Lord informed her she would minister to the masses. But when a Chicago minister invited her to speak before 4,000 people, she told God that all the female ministers she knew had been to Rhema or Oral Roberts universities. "This is the college I'm sending you through so you'll be well-schooled in who I am," she says the Lord replied.

(Juanita Bynum, Article, "Women In The Pulpit," Julia Duin)

"Every time I got on my knees I kept hearing Him [God] say, 'Before I knew you I formed you in your mother's womb to be a prophet to the nations.'"

(Juanita Bynum, Interview, Ministries Today, July-August 1999)

"And He [God] said, 'In order to be set free, in order for you to get your healing you got to get up and do something that defies the Devil. And I got the mic that morning Bishop Jakes, I had not been able to talk, had not been able to use my voice. And the power of God took me up in prayer and the Lord began to say, 'You will preach. The Devil cannot shut the mouth of the prophet. He said, Cuz the book of Jeremiah says, Before I knew you. Before you were born, in your mothers womb. I called you to be a prophet to the nations.' And I'm only half-way there."

(Juanita Bynum, TBN July 6, 2004, T. D. Jakes was the host)

Note: Juanita Bynum spoke in tonuges numerous without an interpreter. This of course violates Scripture:

"If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God," 1 Corinthians 14:27-28.
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So you believe this liar who says that God must be paid before you can be delivered or healed ?

2 Peter 2:1-3 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Serious statement from God's Word huh?


"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But you, O man of God, flee these things . . . " (1 Tim. 6:10-11a).

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Ya gotta love eye witnesses.


A toothache and sore throat are keeping us up late tonight, so we idly switched over to TBN to see what was going on in the world of wacky word-faith. There’s Juanita Bynum in a white robe, surrounded by men and women dressed all in black. Some interesting notes:

“You need to send a thousand dollars. If you can’t send a thousand, send five hundred… if all you have is a nickel, wrap it in tissue and put it in an envelope. If all you have is your clothes, send them.”
“If you want the power, you have to sow the seed [clearly referring to sending her money in context].” (See Acts 8 below.)
“We’re going together into a spirit of wealth.”
“Last night, you sowed to your ability. Tonight, you sow beyond your ability.”
“‘I need [to give] because I need favor. I need it because I need an anointing. I need it because I need power.’” (Her speaking for the people who give to her tonight.)
“‘I’m giving because I want my daughters to be daughters of Zion.’” (Again speaking for those who are giving to her.)
“You’ve got three days to get that into your mailbox. I’m not afraid to say this. I am walking in my authority… if you don’t postmark it by the tenth, we will not accept it. [I’d like confirmation of that.] God says you have three days to get your thousand-dollar seed in the mail.”
“Give it to me and you will live. Give it to me and you will have more than enough.” (She claims to be speaking for the Lord, actually.)
“If all you have is $79.36, I double-dare you to empty your bank account. Close your account.”
Compare Acts 8:

Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was bestowed through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money, saying, “Give this authority to me as well, so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have no part or portion in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bondage of iniquity.”

On several occasions she told her audience that they were like the Macedonians in 2 Corinthians 8, because God was going to bless them for giving beyond their means. Of course, nobody ever says whether the money given by these “modern-day Macedonians” is going to help needy people (like Paul’s offerings were in the Epistles, mostly to help needy believers in Jerusalem, and not to further his own ministry), or whether this is just to keep TBN on the air all over the world, and keep Juanita Bynum able to rent out stadiums and buy lots of tallits and bedsheets she can sell for one thousand dollars a pop on television.

Perhaps the worst part was when she had her people spread out enough white tallits (the traditional Jewish garment worn in prayer and study) to cover the entire stage behind her. She announced that she would be walking on them, and sprinkling olive oil on them, and people who gave (the most often suggested amount was one thousand dollars) would receive these (or pieces of these). They were supposed to wear them at all times for twenty-one days; to wrap them around themselves, to put them on their children, to slip them under their mattresses.

I cannot tell you how revolting it was to see that false teacher walk on the symbol of God’s Holy Word, that symbol of our Lord’s authority, with Jan Crouch walking behind her and pouring olive oil on her hands so she could douse the tallits. Then we saw the cameraman, who had to step on the tallits himself so he could follow Juanita and Jan across the stage. It really amazed me, to see her doing in front of the camera what she had been doing for years through her words — walking on God’s Word, treading underfoot the Truth, as if it were dung to her.

Finally the long “prayer” at the end, where Juanita walked or knelt on the stage, babbling at the tallits (“ma ma ma ma sha ba sai ah ma ma ma”). The cameraman still stood in front of her, catching every move of this woman in her co-opted “priestly robes,” with Jan Crouch now bowing in her direction, moving her arms up and down like Wayne and Garth saying “we’re not worthy.” Now she’s wiping her sweat with the tallits she has been walking on, and screaming “Oh God!” over and over.

More notes from the tallit and prayer cloth part:

“You cannot violate the principle. [To the people coming forward for pieces of the prayer cloths] You have to give. If you don’t have any money then you’d better get a penny in your hand or something.”
(Refusing to give the pieces of prayer cloths to children) “I can’t give this to kids. It’s too heavy.” (Often Juanita would skip the kids, but they could get them from Jan, who was next in line.)
“The Lord told me to give you these socks… In your time of prayer, you are to wear them, and you will walk in authority. Be careful what you say, because what you say will come to pass.” (Yes, Juanita gave some woman the socks she was wearing when she walked on the tallits.)
Why can this woman scream until her vocal cords are frayed, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to have class this weekend because of the sore throat? Why do the wicked prosper?

This is not my God. This is not the worship which my God demands of me. This is not repentance and contrition; this is a new sacrificial cult, with TBN as the priests, a television studio as a Temple, and money instead of animals. But never in this hour-plus tirade was there a call to repentance. The call was to give money. No repentance. No study of the Word. No call to obedience. No, that’s what the tallit stands for, and that’s what she was and is walking on.

If you can watch this and not recognize naked greed, and not recognize the veritable reincarnation of Simon Magus in this woman and all her cronies, then you are indeed blind. The Lord can open your eyes, but He doesn’t want your money. He wants your life.

We just noticed a few things about the tallits. They have something like “The Power of Prayer” written on them. (What do they have to do with prayer, as far as Yeshua is concerned? Not a great deal, really.) Also of interest was the fact that some of them didn’t have tzitzit (the long tassels at the corners), which are the only connection between tallits and the Torah (the Torah does not command to wear tallits, it commands that four-cornered garments must have tzitzit). So, she is spreading around a Jewish tradition, while deliberately making some of them violate the Torah she is claiming to teach, by removing the tzitzit. And this honors the Lord… how?

She just told somebody that the tallit was “the greatest thing I could ever give you” (which is probably true, since she does not appear to be qualified to teach the Word).

To a man with the full clerical collar: “I didn’t call you to conservative Christianism, I called you to be a man who walked in deliverance.” To another preacher: “This prayer shawl shall usher you to another level. Your heart will be changed. Divine revelation when you read the scripture shall come into your mind.”

She appeared to cast demons out of at least two people who came forward. Then they pushed them down the assembly line.

You should see the disappointment on people’s faces when Juanita skips them (as far as I can tell, it’s just because there are so many people coming forward). They look shattered, as if the Lord Himself rejected them. The Lord will judge that woman for every heart she breaks in His name.

It’s starting to wrap up. The ministers and so forth in the back are lying around on tallits and sheets — it looks like somebody blew up the mime factory.

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You call this woman a prophet?
I call her a wolf in sheeps clothing that fleeses the flock
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 5:57am On Mar 26, 2007
@babyosisi

I have listened to some of her pornographic preachings. Her New husband Father (Rev. Weeks Snr) is also involved in this. The Write up by someone that interviewed and you should just listen to her. She has not repented from her ways and this is Glaringly portrayed in her messages, Please listen to them.

This obversation is from her messages and you just Listen to it.

As she goes up Higher the hill of the Charlatan you Just watch her you will see what I am saying, There are so many False teachers gone into us and we must be watchful within and without.

I am mindful of the fact that everyday is a battle in the Life of a true Christian. I will take your Loving advice.
Christianity EtcRe: Depressed: Our Praise Team At Church Is Lukewarm by Backslider(m): 11:52pm On Mar 25, 2007
Dear Sister,

I think that you are not getting the main aim why jesus came to this world he was here to free us from sin. You need just to focus you faith on him so that he can take you higher. We are in the last days and I can tell you that he is more interested about your life as a complete follower of him.

Imagine there is lot of Churches concentrating on Number rather than Quality. Preacher have lost the main reason why he came. The Lord did not lower his teaching or did not try to make the preaching cumbersome so that We played music before the messages are preached.

we need to pray Jesus prayed and fasted. He cried and he even sweat Blood! forget all this Church activity and go out on the street and cry out your heart to the lord and also cry out to the people.

Focus on the Evangelism which is the Highest work all Christians are Give but this must be done with meekness and love. A lot of people have lost their souls because of success in Evangelism and Church growth.

God Bless
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 11:37pm On Mar 25, 2007
DONT GET ME WRONG OH!
GOD CAN STILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT HER BUT SHE MUST COME TO THE THRONE OF GRACE. SHE NEEDS REPENTANCE AND FORSAKE ALL HER SINFUL WAYS.
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 11:34pm On Mar 25, 2007
@babyosisi

PLEASE READ WITH CARE.

A preacher woman's mantra--`No more sheets!'--has shown millions of single sisters a spiritual path toward personal integrity, self-respect and living in fulfillment and peace with our God-given sexuality

If you didn't happen to join 17,000 folks attending Bishop T.D. Jakes's 1998 singles' conference in Dallas, let me fill you in on the now famous "No More Sheets" sermon delivered by a 42-year-old preacher woman known as Prophetess Juanita Bynum. In offering her message, this sister dipped into her private business in a way few ministers ever have before: Through shouts and waving handkerchiefs, she riveted the audience with a nakedly honest account of her own struggles with her physical longing for a man and rampant lustful pursuits--and she even trotted out a few bedsheets to make her point. By the end of the session, the crowd of sisters of every age was on its feet chanting her mantra: "No More Sheets! No More Sheets! No More Sheets!"

Bynum's sermon on unhealthy sexual obsessions was so forthright, fiery and Sojourner Truth-ful, the video-taped recording (Juanita Bynum Ministries, $20) is now widely known among Black women as, simply, the video. The tape was soon followed by a book, No More Sheets: The Truth About Sex (Pneuma Life Publishing, available for $19.99 at pneumalife.com).


The video alone has sold more than a million copies and spawned a revolution of sorts among Black women--including No More Sheets video parties in sisters' living rooms not unlike the ones that heralded the video release of Waiting to Exhale. There's something undeniably real about Prophetess Bynum's words--especially when she's talking about sex: She has been there, done that and knows whereof she speaks.

After her parents raised her and her four siblings in a toe-tappin', tambourine-bustin' Pentecostal church in Chicago, Bynum, still a virgin at 21, married and moved to Port Huron, Michigan. But her marital partnership unraveled "inch by inch," she says, and her husband left her after only a year and a half. "I married for sex--and for what the man looked like," she admits. "Everybody told me he wasn't right, but I was screamin', `I'm in love. I can change him.'"

The pain of their 1983 separation precipitated a collapse that put Bynum in the hospital for three weeks. After her divorce became final in 1985, she fell into a series of sexual escapades. More than one sugar daddy lured her with smooth talk and promises of material generosity--but the serial drama in her life left her more scattered and even emptier than her failed marriage. "I got tired of men with their hands in my underwear," she confesses on the video. "It was too expensive."

If Juanita Bynum's inner life back then was stormy, her work life was gagging for its last breath. She had struggled in odds-and-ends gigs while she was married. Desperate to anchor her finances and her emotions after her messy divorce and her subsequent unhealthy attachments, she reached out for the life jacket of welfare. In 1990 she moved from Michigan back to her hometown of Chicago and went to beauty school to become a hairdresser, a job that helped her get off public assistance after two years. She then left the beauty business to become a flight attendant for the now-defunct Pan American Airways, the company that transferred her to where she lives these days--New York City.

It was in 1991, when Pan Am went belly-up, that Juanita, emotionally buoyed and spiritually resuscitated after attending the New Greater Bethel Ministries in New York, decided to get back to what she dubs her "call"--preaching. She had sampled it previously at 17 and 18, when she was still living under her parents' roof. "My friends said that God shut Pan Am down because I wouldn't go and preach," she says. "I knew God was saying that this was my destiny, but I didn't want to hear it."

Ten years ago she finally stopped ignoring that prompt. Through her church, Juanita began speaking, as she had done as a teenager, in small venues of 50 or so women around the country. In 1996 she met the Pentecostal evangelist Bishop T.D. Jakes (author of the 1994 inspirational best-seller Woman, Thou Art Loosed!), and he invited her to the singles' conference in Dallas that year. Though Jakes knew little about Juanita's own ministry or personal life, the bishop told her he felt God had something momentous for her to say. Indeed, the message she had prepared to deliver at a small women's breakfast went over so well that he invited her to address the much larger group who would show up that evening for the main event.

Two years later on the night she delivered the "No More Sheets" message to yet another singles' conference audience, Bynum hadn't even penned her sermon beforehand. "When I got on that platform," she says, "that message had a voice of its own. It wasn't from me--it was from God." If you eye her closely on the video, you can sense she is winging it: With the organ pipin' up in the background, Juanita sprints from one corner of the stage to the other and leads the audience in a round of call and response, hurling out rhetorical questions like "How can you help somebody if you don't tell anybody where you been?" and "Can I get at least one sister in here to just be honest tonight?"

As a CHILD OF GOD YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DIVORCE BE YOU WHO.

GOD BLESS YOU
Christianity EtcRe: Unity Of The Body Of Christ! by Backslider(m): 11:31pm On Mar 25, 2007
More On Benny Hinn,

It is important to recognize two indisputable facts about Benny Hinn's ministry: (1) He has no formal theological education nor has he attended even a non-accredited Bible School. (2) He is part of the Word of Faith Movement as opposed to the Signs & Wonders Movement.

There are some distinct differences between the two. Benny has made the statements that he visits the tombs of K. Khulman and A. Simple MacPhearson to get a recharge of his anointing. That alone is pretty spooky stuff folks!

This is called What?

One of the popular word faith teachings is that Jesus took on the nature of Satan and had to be born again. This doctrine is intrinsically linked to the "Jesus died spiritually" heresy which postulates that Jesus' shed blood was insufficient for the redemption of man; He had to suffer at Satan's hands in Hell and be born again as the first man to conquer death. Hinn also teaches this heresy:

"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin!" (TBN, 12/1/90)
Christianity EtcRe: Unity Of The Body Of Christ! by Backslider(m): 10:43pm On Mar 25, 2007
@Tafari

Now I have listened to this man and I can say without no fear that he is a man filled with the desire to be a Superstar. He has drunk and feed from his followers and he does not expound sound doctrine.

You must know that this man curses(With death) anyone that is not agreeing with his brand of preaching. I am coming i will post more for you before I leave here.

He is an expensive preacher and does not care of the spiritual well being of man
Christianity EtcRe: Unity Of The Body Of Christ! by Backslider(m): 9:06pm On Mar 25, 2007
@topic

I will agree with any man that follow the teachings of Jesus if he is truly born again and follow the totality of Scripture.

I have not had the opportunity to follow the doctrine of PASTOR CHRIS IT SEEMS AS IF YOU CANNOT GET THE DOCTRINES OR WHAT THEY BELIEVE. (anybody help me with clips)

However when I looked at the saying and the life of Jesus I can tell you that there is a great difference between Pastor Chris. I am not Afraid of any man because I know a man can lead me astray.

I agree we must unite so far the person is holy and like minded in Christ, because some of this so called Pastors are demon infested men. I can name one here is BENNY HINN
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 1:35pm On Mar 25, 2007
@Babyosisi

Her adulterous marriage to the effeminate "Bishop" Thomas Weeks III. How can you prophesy on a couple's marriage and then marry the man you prophesied on some months later? (Fittingly their marriage is filled with: "the ghetto in me just rose up", "I drew my coffee cup back to throw it at him, then I realized where I was",(him being her husband) "I threw my cellphone and it hit his car and busted all to pieces!" (she threw her cellphone at his car when he was leaving after one of their many arguments) "Wesley I will knock your head off""put that brick down, Juanita! You better not hit me wit' no brick" (she repeated what her hubby told her during one of their many moments of wedded bliss)

Is this not fraudulent.

Oh Ok may be she repented.  Now let us look at scripture I was for looking for this yesterday night before i went to sleep.

When she married her husband she did not loose her name but Merged her name with her husbands name. going against the bible

Genesis 5
1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name[b] Adam[/b], in the day when they were created.


God called the family by the name of the man. Look at her very well.
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 12:41am On Mar 25, 2007
@Babyosisi

There are Just so many the bible has against her not me I am nobody.

If you read the my previous post on this thread you see what I am saying.

Bynum full name is

Genesis 1 Verse
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

She never lost her name when she married her husband.

Juanita Bynum Weeks

please I sincerely know that this woman is going to hell please Lord help this woman.
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 11:24pm On Mar 24, 2007
@Babyosisi

I am sorry We will have to break the party here she is a Charlatan and she no more than a mere sinner that is on her way to hell. I am not afraid of her I will bring more people out. I may not post it here.

As a Christian You don't need goggles to know who is one. This fake is too Glaring. If you see anyone sinning will follow the person?

WHAT DO I THINK? I PRAY THAT GOD WILL HAVE MERCY OVER HER AND SAVE HER FROM HER SINS.
Christianity EtcRe: Best Gospel Artist by Backslider(m): 10:53pm On Mar 24, 2007
@babyosisi

I don't want to be but what i see i cant take Just read My post.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-45970.0.html
Christianity EtcRe: Best Gospel Artist by Backslider(m): 10:23pm On Mar 24, 2007
The Life of some of this singers are not Worth Emulating
Christianity EtcRe: Best Gospel Artist by Backslider(m): 10:06pm On Mar 24, 2007
@babyosisi

I thought you will not notice. Let us not rejoice but gravely sorrowful and prayerful so that the young seeds dont get corrupted by these people.

God bless.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Was Jesus Before He Became A Man? by Backslider(m): 9:50pm On Mar 24, 2007
@Post

Jesus was and still is God.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There So Many Types Of Christianity? by Backslider(m): 7:59pm On Mar 24, 2007
@ Misright

One of the greatest Falsehood that any man can expound is that we are Under one man's Doctrine or Umbrella even if the umbrella is false doctrine. There should be a Doctrinal Like mindedness, but this like mindedness should be based on scripture.

There are so many Falsehoods in catholicism and I can say with all authority that it is a complete distortion of the truth. I believe that There is lot of Paganism in their worship. There is no biblical backing for saying Mother of God pray for Us.

There are half truths and complete lies that have been made for their worship. They practice Demonic worship as they have Images that point to this.

I and other people that hold this position however are not much so please I am not going to be surprised if you feel that there are lot of Sincere people worshiping this way. I can only say these people are sincerely (like Muslim) worshiping what they know but They are sincerely going to hell.





Facts
1) It is identified 51 prominent Catholic shrines and pilgrimage centers.

2) Catholics pray repetitive words with Rosary Beads that were first invented in 1090 AD, by "Peter the Hermit" and made popular by St. Dominic in 1208 AD. Catholics believe that Mary appeared to St. Dominic in 1208 AD, at the church of Prouille and revealed the Rosary Beads to him. From this time, Catholics prayed 15 sets of 10 consecutive "hail Marys" in a row (150 times), in the Rosary. However, in 2003 AD, Pope John Paul added a new set of Mysteries, so now it is 20 sets of 10 "Hail Marys", (200 times in the Rosary, in total.) Catholics will vainly appeal to Psalm 136 that alternates the same phrase 26 times with 26 different blessings God gives us. It is not 26 in a row as with the rosary! This is also a song, not a prayer. Revelation 4:8 has "angels singing" not "men praying". (This is a Copy from ISLAM I guess THEY WERE FASCINATED AT ISLAM)

3) Roman Catholics are taught the virgin Mary never had sex after Jesus was born and that Jesus had no brothers and sisters. The Pope teaches that Mary is the mediator between God and man. Catholics also engage in more praising of Mary than Jesus Christ himself and actually pray to her to have their prayers answered. Rosary Beads graphically represent how Roman Catholics heap 10 times more praise upon Mary than God himself. Of the 59 total beads of the Rosary, 53 beads are "Hail Marys", but only 6 beads are "Our Father". The Rosary most often ends with a "Hail, Holy Queen" prayer to Mary, not God. (This one is The reformed Worship of the QUEEN OF HEAVEN) This teaching is found in ISLAM BUT THEY HID IT AWAY.

4) Purgatory is believed by Roman Catholics, and very few other Christians, to be a location or state where the souls of most individuals go at the time of death. It has traditionally been viewed as a place of torment, where "nearly all of us shall, have to pass a period more or less long in the excruciating fires of Purgatory after death." 2 Gregory the Great wrote "that the pain be more intolerable than any one can suffer in this life" Augustine 3 and St. Bonaventure 4 agree. The purpose of this pain is to cleanse the individual from the temporal consequences of her or his sins while on earth. Eventually, the person will be eligible to be transferred to Heaven.

5. All Christians are saints
The Pope says only very special dead Catholic people qualify to be called "saints". For example, Pope John Paul II could not make Mother Teresa a saint (official canonization) until after she was dead. The average Catholic in the pew is never called a "saint" dead or alive! In fact if a pew dwelling Catholic started calling himself a "saint", he would be rebuked by the parish priest! If you read through Islam you will see similarities Where a man that blows up himself is Regarded Highly (Shah id) than even a Muslim that lives a pious life and Never Killed.

6. All Christians are priests
The Pope decided to reserve the title of "priest" to worn by church leaders only. The average pew dwelling Catholic never refer to themselves as "priests". In fact if a lay Catholic started calling himself a "priest", he would be rebuked by "the parish Priest"!

Observance of special days condemned

7) The Roman Catholic church has invented an entire yearly calendar of non Biblical holy Days like Lent, Easter, Christmas.
Historical note: No one prior to 335 AD celebrated the birthday of Jesus. The word "Christmas" (Christ + Mass) was first used in 1038 AD. Before 335 AD, the pagan cult of Mithra, the Iranian "god of light", had long celebrated December 25 as Mithra’s birthday. December 21, being the winter solace, marked the beginning of days with increasing amount of light, hence December 25 celebrated Mithra’s triumph over darkness. Because the pagan festival that celebrated Mithra’s birthday was so popular, the Roman Catholic church adopted the day, but changed the meaning from the birthday of Mithra, the "god of light", to Christ’s birthday, God the son, "light of the world". The old meaning of December 25 was connected with Mithra’s triumph over physical darkness. The new meaning celebrated Jesus triumph over spiritual darkness. Eventually Christmas became dominant, the Mithra cult went extinct and today this origin is not widely known among Roman Catholics. None of the apostles or the early church celebrated the birthday of Jesus.


I would have loved to bring more to your attention but I think i will stop here.

The CATHOLIC FAITH IS ONE THAT HAS COMPLETELY BACKSLIDEN FROM THE TRUTH OF THE HOLY BIBLE IT IS THERE FOR YOU TO SEE IN THE SCRIPTURE.

THE POPE IS A FALSE PROPHET AND HE WILL DO THE WILL OF HIS FATHER SATAN.
Christianity EtcRe: Mark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 2:26pm On Mar 24, 2007
MORE FROM THIS JEZEBELIC WOMAN

At Teach me how to love you 2006 "Judge" Juanita made her first (and unfortunately not to be the last) appearance. During her appearance she gave out "advice" to married couples seeking counseling. She was supposed to be helping to save marriages. But how can she counsel and save marriages when her own is a sham? Built on adultery, lies, deceit and hidden agendas. The Bynum-Weeks "marriage" was really a corporate merger that has made this couple exceedingly rich. Since when have you ever seen a marriage launch so many conferences, books, tapes, cds, dvds and other money making ventures? The Teach me how to love you conferences are ran by liars, hypocrites and homosexuals and yet these people can strengthen marriages when their own are complete shams full of hypocrisy? Juanita is not motivated by a desire to help people, but rather motivated by the bottom-line: $MONEY$. Don't believe it? During this same evening she bragged that she made "good money" and that her husband giving her $500-600 a week was "no money". Some people don't even make that in an entire week working 9 to 5 jobs.

And how is a prophetess who preaches the unedited word of God making "good money"? The true prophets in the Bible were not rich (ie John the Baptist) and were never highly esteemed by the world (ie Jeremiah). Juanita is making "good money" because she is teaching people how to love each other for a BIG PROFIT with advice she doesn't follow herself. She is beloved by the world because she is of the world (Luke 6:26). If she was a true PROPHETESS she would devote herself to holiness(behind the scenes and not a pharisical show of it in front of the scenes), saving of souls and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ (which also means to preach vehemently against sin and that doesn't make you "good money" by any stretch of the imagination). However because she is a true PROFITESS, she devotes herself to hypocrisy (plenty of sham "holiness" in front of the scenes with none behind the scenes), sending souls to hell (while making them think they are on their way to heaven) and preaching the gospel of sex which has allowed her to profit and make "good money". The damage that is done to the individuals involved and their marriages is truly priceless as they seek help only to recieve hell in return.

God doesn't use hypocrites, liars and false prophets to minister to his people because he knows this person will make the individual twofold more a child of hell as themselves (Matt 23:15). A nugget of truth is the bait of the devil to make you accept a barrel of lies. Don't be fooled and don't waste your money on these charlatans who have used their famous marriage to make a buck. When seeking guidance on any matter you should always use the word of God as your guide. Prayer, fasting, seeking God's face and accepting his will will bring true guidance. He can also lead you to people whom he can truly use to help you and not exploit you (especially for gain).
Christianity EtcMark Them: False Prophets And Prophetess by Backslider(op): 1:42pm On Mar 24, 2007
THIS IS ONE OF MANY FALSE PREACHERS LIKE MUHAMED BENNY HINN AND BILLY GRAHAM

Juanita Bynum lies to the audience in one of her most shameless statements yet (amongst so many I've lost count). The "success" of her ministry is her "honesty"?! She's "never tried to pull the wool over the people of God's head?!" And then having the gall nerve to "minister" to a hurting woman? This woman needs sound biblical counsel from a truly honest and Godly individual, not a fraudulent profitess who has built an empire off of deceit.

Examples of Profitess Bynum's "honesty"

Her adulterous marriage to the effeminate "Bishop" Thomas Weeks III. How can you prophesy on a couple's marriage and then marry the man you prophesied on some months later? (Fittingly their marriage is filled with: "the ghetto in me just rose up", "I drew my coffee cup back to throw it at him, then I realized where I was",(him being her husband) "I threw my cellphone and it hit his car and busted all to pieces!" (she threw her cellphone at his car when he was leaving after one of their many arguments) "Wesley I will knock your head off""put that brick down, Juanita! You better not hit me wit' no brick" (she repeated what her hubby told her during one of their many moments of wedded bliss)

The "fake" wedding that was broadcast to millions on TBN and sold to Lord knows how many more. (For the details check out the video entitled: Wedding of the Century?! The union/merger of Bynum-Weeks inc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVktRi, The Bynum-Weeks corp. had already "merged" err "married" previous to this moneygrubbing debacle that occured on WALL STREET mind you! Wall Street?! Why not a church? But actually Wall Street was the perfect setting to launch the Bynum-Weeks IPO. (I.dolatrous P.rofiting O.peration) Wall Street represents everything that this dynamic duo is about: Money, greed, and the unbiblical way.

The phony "humility" exuded by the Profitess who can go feigning modesty as she softly flatters (Prov 20:19b)her host ministers from the pulpit at various engagements before launching into a acid tongued tirade on the congregation that would put an acid dipped cat o nine tail to shame (Jas 3:8-12) ("am I just gonna have to be the Dr. Ruth of Christiandom or what?", "your husband is sick of you", "Me and my husband could have went on out somewhere, went on to dinner and lit us some candles and stuff. A whole lotta churches not even having sunday night service". etc.

Declaring a desire for "eternal consecration and holiness" and yet using that same mouth to promote sexual perversion at the infamous Teach me how to Love you conference.

Creating conferences that claim to spiritually enrich and yet having a hidden agenda to teach false doctrines, indulge in sinful perversions and impart devils to the attendees while making them pay $$$ for it.

Using the powers of darkness to manipulate and control multitudes.
And much, much, much more,

She said that she "felt the best preach that anybody could ever have is their life", and yet her life is littered with lies, deceit, blatant manipulation, greed and perversion. And this is not from her past "unsaved" life folks. We're talking about the here and now. She then has the nerve to say and I quote "You can quote me all the scriptures in the world, but if you can't really show me how this word has affected your life, then you're preaching to me a message, but you're not imparting anything to me." Sounds like Juanita is caught in her own lie. The word of God has not affected her life at all and yet she is preaching to multitudes and claiming to be a Prophetess?! Juanita spoke the truth in that a person whose life isn't affected by the word of God is preaching a message that imparts nothing to the recipient. Unfortunately for the her recipients that statement applies to her and therefore to them. Juanita's "messages" impart nothing of value to anyone but her father Satan who is using her lies to decieve and destroy millions.

Don't buy into the lies of Profitess Bynum, but rather Buy the truth, and sell it not;(Prov 23:23a) according to the word of God. Seek God for his truth and allow his Spirit to guide you into all truth (Jn 16:13). If you do this you will be able to see thru the lies of the false profits/profitesses and see God's word affect your life in a way that you will truly be able to not just preach a message, but impart God's truth with the fruit being the saving of souls.

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Jn 17:17,19

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Jn 8:32
Christianity EtcRe: Paying Tithes Or Giving To The Needy? by Backslider(m): 1:08pm On Mar 24, 2007
@ issue and babyosisi

God does not want the Money of a Sinner.

He wants the soul to be given over

God wants more than 10%

Your 10% + Offering (anything you can add) is Not Salvation ( Go and ask Job he will Tell you)

You are not supposed to borrow or steal money to give anything to "god"

This is the right picture

*You are born Again pure within and without.
*Pay more than ten percent From your earnings.
* give to the poor
* prayer for those that hate you
Christianity EtcRe: Why Pastors Children Often Embrace Cultism, Prostitution, Etc? by Backslider(m): 11:44am On Mar 24, 2007
@Tpia

Let me tell you this, if you are a real Christian you will know the very essence of Christ coming. He did call people serpents( likened them to Serpents) that was God talking and still talks hard.

Matthew 23 verse

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

THIS PEOPLE WERE "RIGHTEOUS" BUT THEY WERE SELF RIGHTEOUS

2 Cor 4 verse

2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

God can love and hate someone you can;t rule that out. you will now have to choose who you shall be Satan or Jesus'

Romans 9 verse
13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

It even goes to say that He Abhors this is a more stronger the word than Hate.

Psalm 5 verse

5The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou[b] hatest all workers of iniquity.[/b]

6Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.


proverbs 22 verse
14
The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.


He shall laugh at there folly. It is not me that is saying this and we can not escape the Holy and Loving Judgment of The Holy God. you should not have a problem with me if it not the word of God I will write a rejoinder and apologize.

WHEN A COURT JUDGE SENTENCES AN OFFENDER OF THE LAW IS IT THE CRIME HE SEND TO JAIL OR THE CRIMINAL?

THE WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT IS READY AND IS WAITING FOR THE UNSAVED THAT REFUSE JESUS.


Psalm 2v4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.


proverb 1: 26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;

God will have his own time of Laughter and it will be horrible, I don't wish any one to die saith the Lord.

DOES THIS MEAN THAT HE IS ALL HELL AND HATE EVEN YOU COME TO HIM WITH A REPENTANT HEART? NO. GOD IS HUMBLED AND PRICKED BY A REPENTANT HEART. GOD CAN MAKE YOU HIS FRIEND AS HE DID TO ABRAHAM HE IS SO HUMBLE THAT HE WOULD TAKE PERMISSION FROM A RIGHTEOUS MAN TO DO JUDGMENT (AS HE DID TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH) THIS IS A HOLY VERY HUMBLE GOD A MAN OF WAR AND YET STILL HUMBLE AND DREADFUL.

Psalm 73 verse 1

Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

I am however not in the Majority and I take refuge in the fact that he said
[b]Luke 6 verse
26 [/b]Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

but I must get ready for the coming Judgment
Christianity EtcRe: Was Jesus Christ Crucified? by Backslider(m): 7:20am On Mar 24, 2007
@babyosisi

"THE WORDS I SPEAK UNTO YOU ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE"

The spirit that these people have is not the Zoe they have not known that spirit however you will be wasting your time and feeding their Ego when you continue to argue.

Atimes one could loose the grace that was freely given. We Dont win over by UNENDING Arguments. He has read our arguments and he knows your position very well.

I think we should war the evils that fights within our faith because there is great crisis in the House of the Lord. There is no CRISIS in their house because SATAN CANNOT CAST OUT SATAN, though he is the father of confusion.

If however they come with a docile spirit do them the honors to preach to them. We can never low the standard because Our God Jesus will never lower the standard.

If I show you some videos of preachers that have been possesed of the devil you will weep. Let us teach young Christians from within the house of the Lord like Jesus did for that is where the Judgment starts.

May the love of our lord Jesus Christ strengthen you Amen!!!!


Selah
Christianity EtcRe: Why Pastors Children Often Embrace Cultism, Prostitution, Etc? by Backslider(m): 8:00pm On Mar 23, 2007
@macalurs

Thanks for Indulging me You will have your day in Court of the Almighty God be waiting could be tomorrow he calls. You heart knows what is right.

I only did try to warn you but I cant do more than that. THIS GOD IS VERY PATIENT AND IT IS AS IF HE DOES NOT EXIST. HIS JUDGMENT SHALL COME SUDDENLY CHECK HISTORY

JOAB, SAUL ELI, NEBUCHADNEZAR, HEROD THE GREAT AND SADDAM had their time. THE WICKED SHALL NEVER GO UNPUNISHED.

IT IS YOUR HONEST RIGHT TO SPITE GOD AND SAY ALL MANNER OF THINGS TO THOSE THAT TRY TO SHOW YOU THE WAY.

God Bless
Christianity EtcRe: What If Christianity Was A Sham? by Backslider(m): 3:03pm On Mar 23, 2007
@ Nferyn

Bless your soul I can not do without the true word JUDGMENT AND PEACE IN CHRIST, and I do it with the love of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Weird Behaviour Of Some Churches. by Backslider(m): 1:43pm On Mar 23, 2007
@keziah

Hmmm

Worry about the Day of Judgment, prepare for it.

There will be always disagreement in the Local Church. What is most import is regeneration
Christianity EtcRe: What If Christianity Was A Sham? by Backslider(m): 10:50am On Mar 23, 2007
@Nferyn

You have chosen to follow the way that leads to Destruction I can only pray that you find Jesus so that you make a U turn.

Your soul will be Chained to your Lust and your books and websites will be Far from you, You will Shout and scream in Hell and your sins will be ever before you till all those that are found in hell and Satan will be cast in the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone.

Your Conscience (WORM THAT DIETH NOT) Will tell you and put you in remembrance of when you read this message.

You will call onto God but he will not answer you. In hell you will pray CURSE GOD THE MORE but no one will hear you. The cries of other people will be so defeaning that your heart will tremble and Eternity has just started.

If I am found with Sin I will also go there and be eternally shut out of Gods presence, this is the second death. No man is greater that hell.

IF HOWEVER YOU ARE FOUND AND MADE RIGHTEOUS BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB YOU WILL ENTER INTO THE ETERNAL LOVE AND MERCY OF GOD THAT PASSETH ALL UNDERSTANDING. HOW BLESSED IT IS TO BE FREE FROM CONDEMNATION OF THE SOUL
Christianity EtcRe: Judas Iscariot: Betrayer Or Enabler? by Backslider(m): 9:44am On Mar 23, 2007
@drbelliom

You are wasting your time with me. Prepare to meet your Maker Take those your books and be ready to meet a dreaded God (JESUS).

I will no longer engage anyone from Islamic view on their belief. I know you like me to argue with you but I have much work to do to Christianity than to Argue with you.

You don't beleive in Jesus and you regard the bible as false.

I regard the quran as false and Mohamed a demon possessed man with nothing but ETERNAL DAMNATION. PERIOD
Christianity EtcRe: What If Christianity Was A Sham? by Backslider(m): 9:27am On Mar 23, 2007
@drbelliom

Just be Ready with your Books In thet Horrible day.


I perceive you are a Muslim I will stop here.

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