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I was reading @betcliq's comment some minutes ago and he said: ".... All na scam once you show interest manipulations don start."

And that got me laughing really hard because as the saying goes, experience is the best teacher. I didn't create this thread to bash women or side with men because men are great deceivers and there's no point arguing that, but female manipulation is almost innate and pervasive. Almost every woman I have flirt with want to manipulate me. I don't know what to think of the female gender again, seriously.

Like, I can't think of one exception. The way they give greenlight in this city and if you go there, it's a different story you'd have to tell.

Do you have stories to share?

RESHARPENED:
BaldWretch,

Does Payoneer now give digital cards?

Yes they do. I got a mail from them today.

Try searching Payoneer Digital Mastercard. I was also surpris3d too.

tradepunter:
Guy are you talking about using correct score instead of direct win or draw odds...

Because a permutation of 2 games with all possible outcome won't add up to the odds your listed above.. even if we to have both underdogs winning... Their total odds won't add to that total you put out there.

I do not understand your question but how I'd interpret it is this:

I didn't actually predict the scores or predict using correct scores. For all we know, the winner always has more goals, but by how much they win is uncertain and that would be begging luck.

That's why I stopped at match and winner having over 0.5 since a won match has atleast one goal. If I began to say over 1.5, then you may argue that I'm predicting beyond reason.
A permutation of 2 games would certainly result in one of the 9 outcomes I listed earlier, and the screenshot I shared earlier is a basic statement: two teams have a match, someone would win (one market) and the person is A (two market). The A in question would either win or draw (third market). Since A would win, the match would end up with atleast 1 goal (fourth market) and A would score atleast one goal (fifth market). I firmly believe that the home team, which is A would score (sixth market) and if the possibility of a draw is excluded, A would still win (seventh market).

Do you now understand that everything in that screenshot is simply a reiteration of the fact that A would win.

It's just like if I say B would draw and proceed to claim that A would win or draw and B would also win or draw. They are in the same markets and not off-limits. Most bettors are not conditioned that way but that's just a clever way to rack up odds if you can pick different markets for the same events and have it multiplied.

Tickles001:
Simply sell it to a trusted exchanger here on nairaland. You'll make more money that way than using our fraudulent banks.

I can't send money to other users. I have unsuccessfully tried to get Payoneer support to assist me in that regards but it hasn't worked.

ineaghe:
Sell the funds to @Cokebar at 540, any other exchanger, or withdraw to your Dom account.

Union Bank and UBA (limit of $2000) allow you to open Dom Savings accounts without referrals if that is an issue. They only need your BVN and an id card. Opening balance of $100 is required.

Thanks for the Domiciliary account suggestions, I'll put that in mind.

Are you saying the account needs a minimum of $100 sitting in there always or can the money be withdrawn after creating the account? Will they accept NIMC slip?

I would like to know Payoneer current rate for bank withdrawal. The last time I withdraw two month ago, I did at 398. How about now?

Also, any suggestions on what to buy with Payoneer new digital MasterCard and sell for profit

Importers, What do you buy? I am pretty sure I'd get more money than withdrawing to my bank account since my account cannot send funds to other users.

I honestly don't mind hitting the streets begging people to buy, but I would like to know choice buys and which site to use.

Remijuice:
Oga BetBuilder365 will definitely love this Maths by Prof. Baldwretch..

And funny enough, na Math I read for OAU.

Abba114:
pls help me i dont understand the long write up help me with your booking code when u done the analysis lets risk together can i dm u?

The summary is that if I could pick seperate events in the same game and have the odds multiplied like they do for seperate events in seperate matches, I would be wealthy. I would pick seperate events in two games but these seperate events would cover all my range of possibilites and would actually be just a different way of echoing the same sentiments. If you say a team would win, you also claim that the match would score above 0.5 and they would be the one.

Since these are seperate events with their own odds, you can pick seperate events in a match and do multiple with another match by picking seperating events in it too and pairing up. If you bet on all the possibility, you would break even by a very wide margin no matter what, but the bookies do not allow a punter to bet on seperate events in the same match so I guess this is useless.

Austema:
While am trying to study this strategy, I must acknowledge your openess, most peoole wont share this type of secret , I also comend your English, you are really educated.

I must admit that people pay to receive this strategy but the thing just occurred to me when I dabbled on bet9ja. Thanks a lot for the compliment oga. I'm flattered.

Kingzrocky:
Haha haha, we have a professor in dah building. Welcome sir. More grease to your elbow.

Professor wey no reach anywhere. Professor wey no get money for pocket . Thanks for the compliment though, lol. Me na money be my only problem for this life o jare, lol.

I calculated Benfica wins odd and it's surprisingly 36 odds. Chai. And na one thing I dey hammer for that screenshot, forget the event - Benfica would win by atleast 1 - 0. Chai sense yaf finish me.

Nb: I have edited my post if you care to go back, adding the odds for both draws.

Catfishing:
Best of luck

Thanks boss.

Justhere:
please throw more light on the bolded.

I would be smiling to the bank if single event odds add up.

If I were to bet on two games say Benfica vs Sporting and Aston Villa vs Newcastle. The game has nine outcomes. It's either Benfica wins in the first and Aston Villa wins in the second game, which I would call the first possibility. It's either Benfica and Newcastle, second possibility. It's either Sporting and Aston Villa, third possibility, Sporting and Newcastle, fourth possibility.

So we have covered the win outcome and the loss by implications because if you win, the opposition lost - so there is four outcome for that.

Then again, it's either Benfica wins and the second game ends in a draw. Sporting wins and the second game ends in a draw. Aston Villa wins and the first game ends in a draw or Newcastle wins and the first game ends in a draw. That one too has four outcome.

Then it's either both matches end in a draw. No matter how you look at it. The game is going to end that way.

With that being said, I intend to cover all the possibilities across three or four bookies taking one position one at a time.

The thing is, I am going to look for matches with draw odds of 3.2 and above. The odds isn't really that good for some markets except you want to balance potential earnings and your stake. Anyways, the odds tells me that even the bookies and logic aren't really sure who wins the match - and that in itself ramps up my odds when I pick one position and thunder my stance. How?

Let's say I want to claim first possibility, a Benfica wins.

Okay, this is what I am going to do. I would claim a Benfica wins market with absolute confidence but without exaggeration. A 1 - 0 win is the furtherest I would go. So I would look for all the market that thunders Benfica wins. See the screenshot I took when I was playing around with bet9ja for the first time the day before yesterday. There are still markets I haven't chosen and by the time I'm done, the Benfica odds for a win would be approaching 9 - 10 when multiplied. Same for other teams to win.

Similarly, I would bet agressively for a draw. Anything draw would be chosen. A draw would be even higher because it has more odds like claiming the match total would be even and others in the draw odds market you have to painstakingly find yourself. This is, of course, without any exaggeration whatsoever. If you have a market for 0-0/1-1 and another market for 2-2/3-3/4-4/5-5. You don't want to pick either unless it's something a bit less risky like 0-0/1-1/2-2/3-3/4-4. That said, suppose our draw odds is 6.

Hmm. 9 * 9 and 9 *6 And 6 * 6 which is 81 and 54 and 36 odds if you bet on two matches for all possibilities. If you bet on all the possibilities with 5000 naira, it would cost you 45, 000 naira. If you win, you don blow be that but you......


MUST SURELY WIN.

81 * 5000 or 54 * 5000 and 36 * 5000. You would make atleast 200k in profit every time you stake. Technically, I am not gambling, just trying to use the system's advantage to my profit. The reason is, multiplication of numbers is a bitch. A bad bitch. It's unlike addition and that's why the bookies use it to entice punters to bet on seperate events which is extremely risky.

When I discovered this thing ehen, I was just screaming I am rich. I am rich. I have it made. I No no say.... Shey o ti ye e

Catfishing:
this is an example

Thanks boss for the betbuilder tip, but the builder doesn't follow logic but luck. There's no guarantee that X would receive a card, concede a goal or score X goals. It's no different, boss.

I'm no longer interested sha. The bookies are quite smart sha. If to say dem dey multiply odds on same event, I'd have become a trillionaire in no distant time at all because I devised a means to always come out with a net profit of 80k no matter the outcome of a football match comprising of 4 teams. Ah, it's a banger sha but they just said -- not so fast!

Catfishing:
You are selecting same games.

Kindly remove that game with multiple options and bank on one.

If you want to do betbuilder then you can use bet365.

You should pick an option and not 2 or more

Mtcheew me wey dey think of the Ferrari wey I go dey drive if my plans click sha, chai.

This one no be way ooo.


So all the bookies would not multiply my odds if I pick different markets for the same events, I would have to stake an amount on individual events with no compounding whatsoever. Like, if I say Liverpool would win and they would win or draw and they would score at least 2 goals. So, for instance, nothing like 1.52 * 1.58 * 1.79 (an assumed odds to pass my point)? The only time compounding occurs is when I pick one events from X market, one event from Y market and one event from Z markets. If that's how it is, how una wan take blow?

[quote author=Catfishing post=106664432][/quote]You have been extremely helpful.

However, I can't click the multiple column - seems grayed out - whenever I choose multiple events. The option is not there. And when I unmark all the individual events, the multiple and system becomes available but is grayed out.

Catfishing:
Make sure to click on ACCUMULATOR


0:0 is even hence it is a won bet


Slow - Merrybet
Bet9ja
Naijabet

Fast - sportybet
Msport

Home DNB or Away DNB simply implies that the picked team should not lose, if the team draw then your stake will be refunded but if the team wins then you will be paid the full sum.
Do bookies penalise, disable accounts for backing and laying your bets for the same event. It is called matched betting. If I choose Liverpool to win or draw in one ticket and Chelsea to win or draw in a separate ticket, clearly I have covered all outcomes, but then, do you think it's against tos?

Don't try this shit

You are the boss. I cannot find where accumulator is written. Please can you show me.

Evening boss,

I have a few questions. I just joined bet9ja but I can't combine odds. I am using the desktop interface. The amount inputted applies to individual events in the betslip. I have not fund the account yet, but I could use your help.

Also, suppose that I bet that the total goals would be even and it ends in a goaless draw, would the ticket be cancelled as a result?


Which bookie pays out lightening fast? Which doesn't so I steer clear.

What is meant by Draw No Bet? Home win no bet? I saw it yesterday in Bet9ja but I am still a bit confused.

Let's say Liverpool odds to win against Chelsea is 1.4 and in the Draw No bet column, their odd to win is 1.2, and suppose Liverpool did win the match, and both options were chosen, is it a win ticket? Why I ask is because I am sure the bookies are not foolish to repeat the same event with different odds. I think there's a difference, maybe two playoff legs would result in no draw or something.

Do bookies penalise, disable accounts for backing and laying your bets for the same event. It is called matched betting. If I choose Liverpool to win or draw in one ticket and Chelsea to win or draw in a separate ticket, clearly I have covered all outcomes, but then, do you think it's against tos?

Davash222:
The Moniker above me should be ignored like poverty.



There's this ecstasy that comes from women with waist bead during coitus. It's orgasmic. The dangling sound is glorious.

Wearing that thing is a great inconvenience. I wonder why anyone would wear them. Don't you feel kinda burdened when you wear bangles around your wrist. I think I agree that they have something they are up to.

I have seen this thing on two different women.

First woman was doing exercise in her shop and was doing it in a way that makes the beads obvious. The place is a GRA but their house has a shop where they sell.

Second one, I was flirting with one and before I knew it, she's bent sideways answering calls.

The beads are like four or five.

I don't know what to make of it.

Theelders:
Don’t bother wasting your time my people it doesn’t work

My brother, have you tried it? What did you actually attempt? It might not work for you because you didn't mobilize people to use your app.

VenExchange:
We don't deal with self click sir.
We have 20 people from around the country who will open each others app 3 times daily and you're not allow to have your app that contain your ad unit to avoid self clicking.

You said from around the country. Nigeria, right?

So you are getting paid per impression and not for selfclicks. If I am not mistaken, one only needs 20 people to open a PlayStore app thrice daily while their data is switched on.


Hmm.

If that's the case bro, I'm very interested. Na to kuku beg people for street make them download am, talk say I go give them 1k monthly na.

Which way na bro, I no dey WhatsApp but I am interested.

VenExchange:
.

Nice, clean, chocolate, chewing gum, aroma, fat, hot earnings you have here. You had in a single day what I'm killing myself to earn in three weeks or a month sef.

However, I don't buy into the idea of clicking ads on the admob-laced apps. I see it as fraud. How do you do it, be explicit. Is it that self-clicking is coded into the app? If yes, how is it ethical?

I know almost nothing about this thing, though. Never dabbled in and cannot code. Don't have any idea, just asking ignorantly. Maybe I should check YouTube.

But wait oo, only 99 impressions and you are up by $6? Or am I dreaming? What are you into with ecpm as high as $6? Are your visitors from tier one countries? What is ecpm? Does it mean you get paid $6 per x impression? Okay, what is x?

Anyway, I would like to get started but I don't know what to do and I am not on WhatsApp. Is $150 a month guaranteed for me?

Coach1:
You can as much as 1200 per task (12 tasks max * 1200 = 14400)

I'm not on WhatsApp and I am serious. How would you help me.

Ngasky:
I am gainfully employed since 2010. Yes some jobs have low pay but one has to start from somewhere.
Nothing starts from the top thats why even in nature nobody is born full grown.
Work on yourself and be dedicated you will get there. But if you are waiting for ready made then unfortunately you are in real trouble

Boss, where do you work currently and can you help me too? I have a Bsc Mathematics.

JovialJune:
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You lack common sense, truly

Look at you desperately trying hard to justify what you, on your own, spew

Imagine you dismissing the fact that Dangote's daughter comes from money, using "she earns" as a lame excuse lol, you guys are so dumb, you'd go low just to prove a baseless point,

It's just like me saying if I'm married to Bill Gates son, doesnt mean he has money lol, or a man marries Bill Gates daughter, means she doesnt come from money, that they "only earn it", I mean, I do not understand how some of you think, but it definitely defiles logic, no doubt

And then you had to use the famous "there are exceptions to the rule" when you lack more baseless excuses to spew lol, how expected of you and how empty too,

Dude, drink water, there will never be an exception to any stupid rule, rich is rich, poor is poor, a cheat is a cheat, a man can cheat, a woman can cheat, nobody owes anyone fidelity especially women, if you like cry and wail otherwise, they abound today, and will continue till the end of time, all you guys can simply do is cry and wail about it till infinity, that's all.

What I mean in essence is, since she is not Dangote, we can't really talk either way about the marriage. What belongs to your parents doesn't necessarily belong to you and much less your spouse. The man tells you Dangote is the one feeding his family? Since you don't know, don't assume. Even the Dangote you kept hammering on, how much did he give one of his female friends that eventually ended exposed him? $15000. She was asking for more but he refused and this is a man worth billions of dollars. She probably threatened to expose their affairs to the general public but he could not have been bothered.

I used myself as an instance because I want to assume that if someone, whether male or female, continually provides value, I am very much obligated to give back values in the way I can.

Seriously, when it's not as if he gave birth to you, a man would toil from morning to night to provide food for you to eat and you'd still cheat, you too think it carefully, does it make sense? Can you work for someone (who is not related to you) to eat, maybe I should start from there? This guy approached you on the road, you begin to cohabit and then you find yourself feeding him for the next 5 years. Breakfast. Lunch. Dinner. For 5years. Can you do it in the name of love?

Women like to manipulate men by downplaying men's vital contributions in their lives and that is what you are justifying, sadly.

JovialJune:
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Thoughtless rants from a misogynist and a sexist, you did not think this through before commenting

You first comment to me was that extreme fidelity is expected for who has more money, you even used yourself as an example and played the "common sense" card with me lol, I gave you an instance of Dangote's daughter and her husband, your lame comeback was to make fidelity a woman thing?

You think you're talking to a nursery pupil? Your ad hominem got a better of you, couldn't even hide your two faced self when backed to a corner

Your opinion hold no water, it is null and void, baseless and thoughtless,

No particular gender has the extreme right to cheat, and I say it again and again, be you a Dangote or a bezos, your wife will cheat on you if and whenever she wants to cheat, very simple.

I am not a misogynist and neither am I sexist. I just state things the way they should be without apology. If you give me money in exchange for my loyalty, then you very much deserve it. I mean, imagine as a man, let me imagine that one guy somewhere sends 60k to me every month because according to him, he wants to be my friend. Even without the financial assistance, we would be lose but that assistance makes me love him the more.


Let me give you one instance. I used to have one roommate back in school Very generous. I mean, really really generous. We just love this guy and we are heterosexuals oo, lol, guy like us oo. In fact of all my roommates then, he's the only one I have called on a couple of occasions.

If a woman is being provided for by a male, he'd expect her loyalty. That shoes off other advances. After all, she brings nothing to the table besides herself. Let's be honest, it is the truth.

JovialJune:
[s][/s]


In 2019, one of Dangote's daughter got married, the husband cheated on her, the side chick now has a child for him, the wedding was all over the internet and the talk of the town, so drop your stupid common sense rant else where, the mumu husband that knows Dangote is the richest man in Africa and she has the money, why wasn't there extreme fidelity from him?

Same way a woman will cheat on her husband whether rich or not, do not expect fidelity from anyone, especially from the wife because you spent more money or you're rich, the earlier you guys accept this reality, the better.

You are very ignorant and I don't mean to be rude.

How many Dangote do we have in Nigeria or the world at large? And point of correction, she didn't have the money until Dangote gives her. You don't have money. You earn it. Until she earns money, she doesn't have it, so no, I'd pass.
My point still stands. The exception only proves the rule. It doesn't negate it.

No matter what you do or assertion we make, we are always going to find an exception or two, but it doesn't make our assertions wrong.

If I say Keke riders are male. Note I didn't say "all Keke riders", I just said Keke riders.

That would be correct but it doesn't mean that you can't find female Keke riders who are making a killing in the job. It just means that the general trend follows a certain trajectory. In the same vein, just because you say some women are breadwinners doesn't disprove what we have on ground. Namely, men are breadwinners in marriages. To find a female breadwinner would be rare and far between. They exist but they pale in comparison and don't use Dangote for any baseless comparison.

A woman cheating on her husband is a double cheat. She has no reasons to.

HeavenlyCherub:
Wow.. fidelity based on who has more money. God help us

As stupid and senseless as it may sound, what I said makes sense. You don't understand life, sadly.

In life, human have to work for everything. Let me rephrase it, human beings have to meet his own wants. It is no one's business and responsibility to do that for you. If you want to eat rice, you plant rice. If you don't want to walk barefooted, you make slippers/shoes. If you want to travel overseas, you either construct your own plane, or your own boat. If you need to use the toilet, you must either make your own or dig the ground to tumble your own faeces in. If you need clothes, you must make your own clothes. If you need to drink alcohol, ferment your own crops.

You can see that I didn't see the word "buy" in all the instances I chose, or did I? No.

If you do any of the above to meet your wants, you would do fine, you wouldn't have to depend on anyone to meet your needs, but sadly, we don't and sometimes can't too.

Then nature creates a sort of exchange for things we can't do. Things we'd otherwise give up on. The medium is called money. Money is the ultimate measure of value.

That man who gives you that shoe in exchange for some paper we call money doesn't love you. That guy who sold alcohol to you in exchange for paper is not your friend. That woman who measured 3 kongo of rice to you is not your relative.


AND IT TAKES A HELL OF EFFORT TO MAKE THIS MONEY. WHICH MEANS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET MONEY FROM PEOPLE JUST LIKE THAT.


I know that you say, then what?

The truth is, when people give you value, they expect value in return. It's a law of life. The exchange doesn't necessarily have to be the same as I have shown. When men give, they expect something in return, either from man or God.

Some men haven't helped his fellow man, but he can't count the number of times he's helped women. A beggar by the roadside would beg and beg and he'd get nothing from most men, but these same men would give women even when they didn't ask.

Let me back off a bit and say this, men give women to tie them down. Understand that. They give women so that their seed can be identified, nurtured, and grow by the women.

Women bear and nuture men's seed. Imagine a world where women do not have to stay with one man. It would cause chaos because while a women knows, a man wouldn't be able to identify his own seed.

So the society and men by implications, tie women down and promise to give them value in exchange. These value ultimately, is money which could come as goods, shelter, clothing and more. She is very much obligated to restrain herself and keep away other men access to her body because someone else has meet her basic wants. We call that marriage.


So yes, fidelity is more a feminine imperative than a masculine one especially when the man brings finances to the table.

Cc: JovialJune

JovialJune:
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You are very funny with this your thought process, it still doesnt change the fact that bride price and list originated from you men, from your ancestors to your elders in the village, if you like give women, teenagers, toddlers, babies, the whole community out of it calling it one name or the other, it will not change these facts and known truth, or is it the women, children and kids you men will go meet with to abolish bride price? Very funny logic you have,

Regarding marriage, it is very obvious you are using the basis of Igbo culture to define all marriages, step out of your enclave, in some tribe, the traditional is solely done by the bride's family, then the church is done by both families, different cultures apply for different tribes

The fact that some men take care of their families doesnt mean there aren't women who do same, and we will not call their efforts "how many" to disregard their effort, so cancel that yeye 90% you spew there, some women are sole bread winners but you will never know, they allow people see the horseband as the head for peace to reign, so it is more like 50:50

Now I don't even understand this your argument cos it doesn't relate to this thread, but all in all, if the man likes, he should spend for her whole family, her village, pay bride price of trillions, no one cares, a woman abi na wife who wants to cheat will cheat, simple.

You made a valid point but your misandry got the better of you, sadly. Y

Yes, we can all agree that brideprice is a masculine thing, which some see as some sort of oppression. No one should argue that with you. You made a valid point there.

However, on taking responsibility, in Africa here and Nigeria in particular, in 9 out of 10 marriages, men take more than 90% of the financial burden. Don't come and start saying bullshit that women do bla bla bla too. Men do most of the givings, financially. Far more so. I know and I'm talking from experience. I have met many families but I have not met one female breadwinner. Even if she was, it is wholly temporary It is never a long term thing. It is rare.

The average Nigerian man deserves his wife's fidelity more than she deserves his. I am serious. Men like to win a woman's heart with money, but whose heart can't be won with money? Answer me?

And if the person is gotten with money, you'd expect extreme fidelity - that's why your employee would talk to you anyhow and you would be off to work very early the next morning.

Imagine that I got married to one of Bezos daughter and she brings the money, don't you think that she deserves my 2000% loyalty? Yes, absolutely she does. I mean, it's common sense.

CHoccolaTE:
Are you an atheist? This your signature na wa.

Dear feminist, there is no such thing as an atheist. Every one believes in God. Most simply live without him.

My signature is bitter-sweet jare. It gladdens my heart that God would kill my fiends a quadrillion times before he finally kills them.

Faysoladave12:
Yeg

Haba bros. There should be a limit to everything na. This pics is so obtrusive and it heavily distracts from a wholesome user experience. You even doubled the ad image taking twice as much space and leaving people to scramble for second and third page

If the aim is to imprint your service in the minds of people, I think you have done more than enough. People have seen your ad again and again and should they require your service in the future, they only have to go through previous front page post.

The platform owner has given you, like others, the privilege to advertise your skills without too much censorship but you are taking this too far.

This story is made up but I would drop my opinion.

Women marry men especially to meet financial responsibilities and obligations. If a man can't live up to expectations and consistently, he'd not get his part of the marriage bargain - unrestricted sexual relations. Men are useless if they can't provide and I couldn't agree more.

However, women are useless if they can't? Oh, I don't know. Someone please tell me.

However, a woman is NOT supposed to deal her husband his conjugal rights whether he provides or not. Ah, ah, what am I even saying sef.

Look, imagine you met a fellow on the road and he agrees to lift 10 tubers of yam on his shoulders and you agreed to pay him 200 naira. When you get to the final destination, you are very much obligated to pay him in full since he met his part of the agreement.

In the same vein, men are obligated to feed, cloth, and shelter women and make sure they don't go hungry since they practically take your seed and nuture them from fetus (9 months) to full blown human. They should be paid, but then again, how much? What is going to be a fair amount?

Hmm, I'm only thinking loud about the concept of marriage, conception and all. What am I even saying.