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~Sauron~:
U are the donkey-stubborn hilly-billy who cannot get simple logic in your head.
Eminem sells!!! Why does he sell? He makes good songs laced with good lyrics.
Granted, he clowns but put him against the best of the best and he comes out flawless.
How many times has he killed black rappers on their own shit?

He makes good songs laced with good lyrics?? About him killing and raping his mom and wifey?? A real raphead wouldn't say that . . . only a nuthead would.

The hysteria surrounding the album's title made it sell 400,000. . . . . .Ever since then, the sales became history.
It's still struggling to sell a million copies.

Yes . . . and it ain't no biggity . . . the Rap Game has been choked by the likes of Eminem, Lil' Wayne, Flo Rida and Soulja Boy . . . and dumbos like you keep buying the rubbish they spew . . . only a few cats are keeping it real now . . . Nas is one of 'em . . .  

Yes, cos the title generated controversies.
That seems to be Nas' market strategy now.
His next album would be titled "I Murdered 2Pac".

Ya usual halfwit babbles . . .  

Yea. . . .and Eminem talks about packing shit in your own country. . . . .
Being made to look like slaves in your own fatherland slapping mosquitoes and lighting coils before you can sleep at night.
"We As Americans" would give u a pointer to the shit you are being made to go through.

Hehe . . . this daftie musta thunk everyone hails from the Nigerian slum he fled away from . . .  

The life I'm living . . . you only catch a glimpse of it in your wet dreams . . .  

Lil wonder Nas invites him to produce for him. . . . . . .The humour merchant was begged to appear to boost Nas' album sales.
It's pathetic.

Anutha of ya lamebrain opinions.

Yea yea yea. . . . . . . .80 million albums were bought by fans who love to kill, rape and abuse their moms and wives.
Yet 2Pac(a deranged rapist who derives pleasure from raping women) had a target audience full of professionals and sods like Bamsyle.
Did u go to school?

Pac's themes were/are more elevated . . . he spat/spits knowledge each time he opened/opens his mouth.

'Course I went to school . . . whilst you were busy setting traps in your village . . .  

Height of Em's career?? He went off radar for 5 years and under the noses of Nas and Jigga, rap became garbage.
Kanye West, T-Pain, Flo Rida, Weezy and other crap-ass dolts invaded the rap industry with garbage music.
Eminem is back now. . . . . . .watch how your heroes would crawl back into their respective shells.

He went into a 5-year hiatus cos he had nutin to say . . . just 3 good albums and he was runnin' outta ideas.

He came back with a crappy-ass album with a handful of average tracks . . . after five friggin' years . . . disappointing.

Nah. . . . . . u took a course in MYOPIA and DEMENTIA.

Yeah, I remember . . . and you were always first in the class of dunderheads back then . . .  

"Infinite"?? How can that be classified as a studio album?
Are u a retard? Eminem's career blew up with Dre on Aftermath!!!
Relapse is a classic. . . . . . .It popped number one in over 20 countries including India.
Nas has 3 classics in 10 albums(if you include "The Lost Tapes". . . . . .He is one of the most inconsistent rappers in the world.

Infinite was an album you doofus . . .  

Eminem would fight tooth and nail to argue that it was a mixtape or sh*tever . . . he tried to defend himself when he was accused of sounding like Nas . . .  

Are you a featherbrain?? That his career blew up with Dre does not mean we shoulda forgot the crap-of-an-album he released before he met him . . . Relapse is a rain of yellow urine . . . all the sensible posters on this forum have said it.

Nas' Illmatic, Stillmatic, It Was Written, and Lost Tapes eclipse whatever your imbecilic Em would ever hope to release in his miserable life.

I have seen more intelligent Silverbacks at Chester Zoo. Do u reason with the sole of your feet?
What are you talking about? His lyrics are "uncommon" goes to show he spews something different.
Something only few heads can touch and Common went further to say he got disgraced on a track they did together.
Are u saying Common(the gentleman) is a dickrider?

There's more chance for a pea-brain like Frank Spencer to become wise overnight than for Sauron to make use of his 2 brain cells . . .

When appearing in public, make more use of your brain instead of your asshole . . . those cats were being civil with their comments . . . and the fact that they term his lyrics uncommon means shiite . . . are you a clodpoll??

How many MCs went to college like Canibus did?
How many of em can kick knowledge in science like Canibus? Sorry, no one can be like him. . . . .Not even you.
He is miles intelligent than you are and that was what Common and KRS-1(Father Of Knowledge) were saying.

In one breath, you deride a rapper who 'went to school to learn poetry' . . .

In another, you praise an MC who 'went to school to learn computers' . . .

Whilst mocking an MC who went to school to learn poetry, you likened it to going to school to learn computers . . . now, Canibus who went to school to learn computers is 'kicking knowledge' . . .

You're a dullard . . .  

Let him do that first before u start foaming in the mouth.

I pray he does . . . and I also pray that one day you both suck each other's manliness (he has a craving for that and you're obssessed with him  )

X was never original. . . . . . .He wanted the 2Pac outlook and went with the whole thuggish persona but listeners got tired of him after a while and his career went phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhbt!!!! Def Jam worked on a market strategy to produce a clone of Pac and they went for Ja Rule and DMX. X became the leading figure of Def Jam in those years copying Pac with those funny tattoos and barking like a dog to spew.

Anutha of ya unfounded boofheaded theories.

If Ja Rule does not make barking sounds, why bring Ja Rule into the matter.
Sometimes i think you exude short attention span.
Eminem was talking about DMX. . . . . . .the beef fizzled out when X ignored Eminem's reply and the 2 made up later cos they had a common foe.

You're shallow-minded . . . that's why I always take the pains to explain things to you in graphic details . . . but your lummox brain just wouldn't get it . . .  

There's nutin in that song to show that Eminem was referring to X . . . you quoted Em saying that rappers are imitating Pac's appearance/style and I showed you how that could refer to Ja Rule. Simple. How else can I explain things to a blockhead??

But their target audience are broke-ass gays. . . . . .
They have made Nas poor. . . . . .All his attempts to come back have been queered by people like you who would rather steal his lyrics from the net.
Eminem's lunatic audience are putting their money where their mouth is.
There's a big difference.

Nas' poverty far eclipses your whole life's savings . . . with that sh*t-packing job you do for a living, a meeting with Nas would turn your life around . . .  

Stage a one-man protest or invest in a piece of strong rope and tie it to a beam.

Strap yourself with a dynamite and rush at Eminem . . .  

Stop being ignorant. . . . . . .Nelly has only one album that went multi-platinum.
If wackness sells, all his albums should be cracking the platinum scales.
His style was different with "Country Grammar" and people bought into it and got tired later.
Tell us his sales in subsequent albums and compare to Eminem who hasn't failed yet in any of his studio albums to sell platinum.

You're blissfully ignorant . . . you'll cook up any story to defend ya weak points . . . Nelly is one of the most successful rappers out there . . . Country Grammar, Nellyville, Sweat/Suit - they all moved great units.

I have told you what to do.
If u don't agree with Vibe Magazine's choice, why don't u commit suicide?
Not even Nas or Jigga are streaming out FIRE from their asses the way you keep battering your keyboard.
Go take some water, sleep and wake up. . . . . . .Eminem won it, it has happened. . . . .GET A LIFE!!!

And I already told ya - go suck Em's jack or bomb ya worthless self with you and Eminem locked up in a room . . .  

Your obssession for Em is nauseating . . . Eminem sang about a fake Stan, the real Stan is YOU . . .  

~Sauron~:
Unfortunately for you, this single: "Ass Like That" outsold any Nas' album in it's first week!!!

Sauron and his perpetual sales theory . . . when his fave artiste's credibility is questioned, he quickly replies "but he's selling" . . . how long will you keep being a mule??  

Nas, despite releasing records that boast of themes that cannot be put in a "For Sale" box, still recorded impressive sales . . . Hip Hop Is Dead sold close to 400,000 copies in its first week of release . . . the hysteria and intrigue surrounding the album's title should have expectedly affected sales negatively . . . but did it??

And mess sales, his Untitled album topped the Billboard charts upon its release . . .

This is comedy on lyrics. . . . . . .Eminem assuming the role of "Triumph the insulting dog" and bashing celebrities with it.
Are u this sad that you don't find humour in Eminem's lyrics? Eminem is the definition of "outspoken". . . . . .He raps about what idiots like Nas and Jigga can only mutter under their breaths in their closets.

Eminef always assumes the role of an idiot . . . so he can get away with crap lyrics . . . don't be fooled by this Clifford Orji in disguise . . .  

Lighten up man, Eminem did not cause the massive problems in Nigeria.

ROFLMAO . . . and Nas loves to talk about those issues that you don't wanna remember . . . those issues that made you run away from Nigeria to become a shit-packer in another country . . .  

Of course I find humor in Em's lyrics . . . and I've told you I'm his fan . . . but that's where he oughtta remain when compared with Nas - a humor merchant . . . it's like comparing Olu Maintain to Mode9 or Ruggedman . . .  

Yea, that is because he identifies his target audience and gives them what he wants.
He is the greatest lyrical talent of this era, you cannot take it out of him.
Versatility is a strong point and that is what makes him the best rapper alive. Eminem has changed the outlook of the rap industry. White boys now go to the stores and pick up rap albums(something unheard of back in the days).

Seriously?? Then his target audience must be predominantly made up of retards and deranged folks . . . folks who would either love to kill, rape or abuse they moms and wives . . . folks who appear regularly on the Jerry Springer Show . . .  

Yeah . . . he truly has changed the outlook of the industry . . . rappers can now say meaningless words as long as they rhyme . . . and still be termed "the greatest lyricist that ever traversed the earth" . . . hope you ain't forgetting that it's at the height of Em's career that Lil' Wayne and Soulja Boy are being adjudged by many as the best rappers alive.

Shoe cobbler?
Well, we now know he is not a shoe cobbler and his career is lauded with more classic albums than any other rapper bar Biggie Smalls.
4 classics in 5 albums is quality. . . . . Nas has 3 classics in about 10 albums. Jigga has 3 in 14 albums.
There is no other reason Eminem is the highest selling rapper of all time. . . . . .People love his music.

Did you undertake a course in ya school called "Blissful Ignorance"??

Eminem's albums till date are 6 in number (so much for an ardent fan's knowledge) . . . only 3 are classics . . . Infinite, Encore, and Relapse are a downpour of sun-dried poop . . . ok, Nas has 3 undeniable classics . . . plus another one that some call near-classic (and several others call a classic) . . . and quality tracks dropped every now and again . . . even in his most criticized albums . . . do the math.

There are a million and one reasons Eminem's albums are selling . . . and reasonable minds on this forum (like Wordsmith, A-40, and Eldee) have told you countless times.

Bamsyle, stop being ignorant.
This wasn't a run-of-the-mill interview. . . . .His lyrics were analysed bar after bar talking about the mad knowledge Canibus drops.
Lyrics made for the intellectuals unlike the "bling bling" gibberish people like Nas and Jigga drop everytime they rap on a record.
Common even owned up he got schooled by Canibus. I can send you the track they did together where Canibus murdered Common lyrically.

Why're you so bearish in your thinking??

Two gentlemen are asked to make comments about their colleague . . . a colleague they don't have any reason to hate . . . plus, Canibus' career has been wrecked already, why would they damage it further?? . . . they refer to his lyrics as 'uncommon' . . . what's the biggity in that??

Common, out of respect, would say anything to make Canibus happy . . . Common is one of the most gentlemanly MCs in the Rap Game . . .

I'm waiting for any hot, lukewarm, or mediocre MC to bite a line from Canibus' 'uncommon' lyrics . . .  

Eminem's verse was stronger.
He stayed on point throughout and the only rapper who couldn't do without a rottweiller in 99/2000 was DMX.
X imitated 'Pac throughout. Bald head, half-naked, shouting and screaming like a demented, frustrated psychiatric patient.
Who barks on records? Ja Rule?
The record was definitely talking about X. . . . . People who woulda never rapped if Biggie/Pac were alive.

Eminem's verse was stronger?? Hehehe . . . one of these days, Eminem would fart to a beat for 5 minutes and Sauron would call it the best track of a decade . . .  

So every rapper that's bald-headed, half naked . . . every rapper that screams on a record is imitating Pac . . . funny, I ain't even into appearance and all that . . . it's the style that matters more to me . . . X's style is original, quite different from Pac's . . . while Pac comes with that 'feel me/emotional/deep' style, X comes with the in-your-face-muthafu**** style . . . stop being blind to basic facts . . . X is original . . . Ja Rule was/is even the cat peops accused of jackin' a style - by mixin' Pac and X to get his style.

Ja Rule does not BARK!!!
Only X barks. . . . . X dissed Em in 99.
Em replied in 2000. The beef fizzled out and they both murked Ja Rule in 2003.
U cannot diss Eminem and get away with it. . . . . . .I know that for sure.

Ja Rule does not make barking sounds . . . but he sounds like X . . . his overall sound comes across as 'barking' . . . the Em/DMX beef is unfounded . . . but when you judge from the neutrals, X's verses are more suggestive/direct . . . unfortunately the media did not hype it.

Great. . . . . .Jigga/Nas should look for lunatics to vote for em too.
Everyone keep slating Eminem as if he voted himself as the best rapper alive.
He is diverse. His album feeds every rap listener. White, Blacks, Caucasians, Hardore, Pop, whatever whatever.

They don't need lunatics . . . their target audience does not consist of lunatics.
We're just having fun . . . why're you so upset??  

Well. . . . . . .we live in a democratic world.
If 900,000 peops vote Hitler as the best leader in the world. . . . .you have no choice but to agree.
900,000 voters backed with 80 million records sold worldwide. . . . .U don't have a prayer, Bam.

I have a choice . . . and I'll disagree.

Non-credible polls taken by a mag that has no say when Hip Hop is concerned . . . Album sales?? Nelly has sold how many??

The fact that Sauron and 900,000 nerds think Eminem is the BRA does not touch a strand of hair on me body.

Excuse me for not being insane.

~Sauron~:
Hehehehe. . . . . .Eminem is the king of FLOW.
Eminem makes sure he comes down to the level of his audience.
U need to sync more with his stylez. . . . . .Eminem is crisp.
Eminem kills anything in front of him.
2Pac was lucky he died when he did.

Eminem is the king of BLOW . . . add "JOB" to that and I'll agree . . . 

Which audience?? Peops made of rubber and straw?? With dumb lyrics like these:

Yes, I make r&b, I sing song it go



Ring-a-chong, a-ching-chong-chong-chong-ching

When did Eminem become Jet Li or Jackie Chan??

Psych, I joke, I joke, I kidd, I kidd

A serious case for the mental homes.

If I offend I'm sorry, please, please forgive

Of course you're offensive.

For I am Triumph, the puppet dog, I am a mere puppet

Is this guy not going cuckoo??

I can get away with anything I sing, you will love it

This is the thundering height . . .

Raging typhoons . . . who's encouraging this dolt to continue rhyming senseless words?? . . . he tries to mislead peops with his I'm-just-phucking-around-attitude so he can continue to churn out gibberish . . .

If Eminem farts on a track for 5 minutes, Sauron would call it a classic . . .

Well, in Bamsyle's world, Eminem can't get away with anything he spits, even if he's Superman!!!

Eminem would prolly be a shoe cobbler in Detroit if not for 2pac's and Biggie's deaths.

Even after Common and KRS-1 said Canibus raps in another level that is not common?
What else do u want?

Common and KRS-One were just being civil . . . you're a rap fan so you oughtta decode - they actually meant his lyrics are meaningless . . . he's not communicating . . . he's better off in another planet, maybe Jupiter . . . 

He already replied DMX. . . .  .
Called him a "rottweiller with a chopped neck that won't stop BARKING".
Also mentioned how cheap imitators are trying to be 2Pac.
Surely, he was subliminally dissing DMX. . . . . Nuff said.

It's still a subject of controversy . . . but when you weigh the neutrals of the case, it's much easier to say DMX dissed Eminem in "Up In Here" and Em was not dissing X in "Marshall Mathers" . . . letz check it out . . .

Excerpts from "Up In Here" to suggest X was dissing Em:

And I don't know who the mess you think you talkin to
but I'm not him, aight slim? So watch what you do
Or you gon' find yourself, buried next to someone else
and we all thought you loved yourself

First of all, you ain't rapped long enough
to be fuckin with me and you, you ain't strong enough
So whatever it is you puffin on that got you think that you Superman
I got the Kryptonite, should I smack him with my privates and the mic?
Y'all ***** is characters, not even good actors
What's gon' be the outcome? Hmm, let's add up all the factors
You wack, you're twisted, your girl's a hoe
You're broke, the kid ain't yours, and e'rybody know
Your old man say you stupid, you be like, "So?
I love my baby mother, I never let her go

Cause youse a soft type nigg*
Fake up North type nigg*
Puss like a soft white nigg*

Excerpts from "Marshall Mathers" to suggest Em was dissing X:

Yo, you might see me joggin, you might see me walkin
You might see me walkin a dead rottweiller dog
with it's head chopped off in the park with a spiked collar
hollerin at him cause the son of a bitch won't quit barkin

Even if both weren't going at each other, which lines are stronger??

Rottweiller with a chopped neck that won't stop BARKING/cheap imitators trying to be 2Pac?? . . . how're these not referring to Ja Rule??

In 2003, after X had released "Up In Here" . . . both X and Em collab'd to murk Ja Rule in "Go To Sleep" . . .

So what the . . . ??

Heard through the grapevine Jigga will feature him on Blueprint 3.
Prepare for another rap killing of your hero. . . . .

Jigga ain't ma hero . . . just being neutral here . . . letz wait 'n' see the outcome.

900,000 peops on VIBE disagree with you.

There are millions of lunatics all over the world . . .

If they all team up and disagree with Sauron on an issue, does that make Sauron wrong??

Well . . . I don't know . . . 

~Sauron~:
Well. . . . . . .He could win that award as well.
Afterall, 8 mile won an Academy award. His acting on "The Wash" wasn't bad as well.

You know . . . sometimes I quite agree with some thangs you say on NL . . . this is one of them . . . 

Eminem's verses to Xzibit on 8 Mile had pretty cadence.
He was doing those semi-pauses to let his audience know where the bars end so the rhymes could be figured out.
Eminem is a battler. Jigga and Nas are not even on his level, never mind JIN.
JIN? Why not try Jet Li??

Hehehe . . . even Joey Jordison woulda lost his drumming skills trying to play to those loose verses . . . the world's slimiest prostitute could never be as loose as those lines from Eminem . . . 

JIN is useless. . . . . .
He must stand toe to toe with Obie Trice first to be considered.

And I'll be waiting to hear the verdict on who won the hottest rap battle of the 2000s . . . Eminem or Debbie Nelson?? 

Canibus, DMX(do those names ring a bell)??
How did he murder Jigga/The Game/Dre on their own shit if Eminem is wack?

Canibus is king in your world . . . in my world, he ain't sh*t.

DMX finished him up in Party Up . . . we already told you that. Wallow in your self-induced joy over Dre and Game.

You're a soccer fan . . . a 1-0 victory is shiite . . . Renegade is now stale . . . letz see him do it again . . . afterall, Nas asked in Classic:

now let me see you do the same thing twice

He is the best rapper ALIVE!!!

He is the best rapper A-LIE!!!

~Sauron~:
"Kiss Me Through The Phone"?? Why not Nelly's "Dilemma"??
Rap is not about a beautiful female voice humming over a rap lyric. . . . ."Rap" should be hardcore!!!
Once u remember a rap song more because of the hook rather than the lyrics itself, then it's GARBAGE.

Yes, Dilemma, Kiss Me Through The Phone, Lollipop . . . what's the difference between all these and We Made You or Crack A Sh*t??  

By your standards, Eminem's "Stan" and "We Made You" are GARBAGE.

There's no war when it comes to 'Pac. . . . . . .He is all mouth, no substance.
Run-of-the-mill stick up boys took his jewelry in New York. . . . . .Something that would never happen to Bow Wow or Little Vicious.
Pac was a p-ussy. . . . . . .He was untouchable largely because of Suge Knight. There was no way anyone would retaliate then without a conflict with Suge/Death Row and that was why Nas, Jigga and Biggie ignored his animal rants. Pac's sonorous voice?
Redman's voice is scarier.

Hehe . . . Eminef was arrested for public affray at a car audio store . . . the dork had in his hands an unloaded gun that he pointed at the ground . . .  

You need another story?? He spotted Kim his wife, kissing a bouncer . . . in a parking lot . . . and fought . . . tomfools in Malawi wouldn't do that sh*t . . .  

He went to jail because he sodomised an innocent woman. Even bitch ass cowards in Nigeria go to jail for that.
Up until that, he wasn't into any beef.
As soon as Suge Knight got interested in his case, Pac started shooting his mouth off. Of course, Biggie/Puffy were killing the airwaves by then.
The power base shifted back from Dre's G-funk to East Coast's Biggie/Bad boy records and Suge was having none of that.

I can see that it's comedy time so letz laugh our heads off . . . more jokes please.

Yep. . . . . .he was arrested for jay-walking, went to jail for sexually assaulting a woman.
How does that make him fearsome? All those i am busting gats stories were lies. He never handled a tec-9.
Pac was a good student learning poetry when the likes of Biggie and Jigga were selling drugs around the block.

Trust you to mention "jay-walking" . . . you must love the word so much you dream about it . . . we know this already . . . but it's better than aiming an unloaded gun at the ground . . .  

Pac never handled a tec-9?? . . . he was a good student?? I'm happy . . . at least Rap has some brilliant minds like Pac who spit from a pool of learning instead of cats boasting 'bout how they'll kill they wives and moms . . . what a tard!!

Praising a gun he never used. . . . . .At least, Biggie had a gun on him when he was busted for drugs.
2Pac had condoms on him when he was arrested!! He was never arrested for any gun crimes so why like about busting .22 shells?
If Pac had you fooled, you can still ask for a refund!!!

Hehe . . . he was arrested with a condom filled with weed . . .

I'll always be your teacher . . . I just told you sumn you never knew.

'Pac was a thug. . . . . .He had "Thug Life" inscribed on his belly.
He talked about guns, drugs, killing the Police and reh reh reh(the life he never lived).
How many songs about thuggery did 2Pac release? Loads!!!!

T-H-U-G L-I-F-E . . . an acronym . . . I don't need to repeat what it stands for . . . you can never get it . . .  

How many songs has Eminef released about killing his wife and mom?? Loads . . . instead, the dork fought when he saw a bouncer kissing his wife!! What a bug . . .

I am glad you know that.
He was an easy target. . . . . .Each time he left Suge Knight's California, attempts were made to snuff his life out.
Nuccas know he was soft.

Letz test your much-bragged-about understanding of football . . . Lionel Messi is a soccer heavyweight . . . a player that opponents always mark in any football contest . . . each time Barcelona clashes with another club, Lionel Messi is an easy target . . .

Lionel Messi must be soft . . .  

Eminem is hardcore. . . . . . He can swing anywhere.
Do u want hilarious lyrics? Hardcore lyrics? Everyday issues?
Name it. . . . .Eminem is there bursting subliminal lines.

Biggie musta had Eminem in mind when he asked:

So you wanna be hardcore
With your hat to the back/talkin' bout the gats in your raps
But I can't feel that hardcore appeal that you screaming, maybe I'm dreaming

2pac certainly had Eminef in mind when he said Shorty wanna be a thug . . .  

Hardcore raps with the overall content of raping his mom and insulting ladies . . . as they'll say in pidgin - Chei, Rap Don Suffer!! . . .  

Not only 2face. . . . .Try Eedris.

You must be a clairvoyant . . . I was about saying that.

Nas is the dreamer.
From Nasty Nas to Escobar(the drug lord running from the Feds) to Nastradamus(the fake prophet) and now to God's Son.
Someone should tell that nigga to retire.
Rap evolved and left Nas while still claiming to be "God's Son".

It's called Metamorphosis . . . dude has evolved from that 19-year old boy into a mature man . . . it's evident in his awe-inspiring lyrics.

Better than a near-40-year old still dreaming about how to shag divas that he can never get a handshake with . . . still screaming bout how he's raping his mom and killing his wife . . .

How demented can Eminem be?? Dude almost committed suicide . . . he sure has problems.

That's the thing about Eminem. He is the complete package.
Humour while listening. Not Thug Life this, thug life that.
Who's the bald-headed coward tryna to fool?

The complete package of dog poop . . .

Homophobic and misogynyst themes all-a-time.

No wonder his life is dependent on poppin' x-pills to sleep . . . better you pity the poor dude . . .

As the saying goes - It's pure amusement to watch a lunatic but nobody wishes to give birth to one . . .

Do you pray to beget a pickin like Eminem??  

~Sauron~:
Google "Eminem Westwood Freestyle" and see the number of hits it has generated.
Even his critics agreed that freestyle is the best thing they have heard in a while.
The schitzo is causing MASS HYSTERIA on the webspace.

Doesn't matter if the hits are a bazillion . . . I contributed to those hits . . . I watched Eminem's top-draw acting and rated him higher than Tom Cruise, Orlando Bloom and some other Hollywood giants . . . Eminem ain't only the best rapper alive . . . he's the best actor alive . . . 

Of course, i prefer lyrics but the lyrics should come out and flow like the Naigara falls.
JIN was rapping like Sani Abacha was delivering the budget speech. . . . .There has to be a cadence to the way they are spit.
Your Asian was rapping like a kid who hasn't mastered the art of reading(ignoring commas, fullstops and semi-columns).
He should learn how to "Freestyle" from Eminem.

The same way Eminem's verses to Xzibit in 8 Mile had cadence . . . a freestyle without a beat doesn't have to follow any cadence . . . the dude is busy cooking up lines in his head and you expect him to follow a beat that he's cooked up in his mind?? Even Sauron's written verses in the Rap Battle Section sound more like prose on a free fall . . . 

An apprentice can have decent punch-lines.
Ofokasibe could whup Jigga in a freestyle battle.

Oh, so you're now saying he ain't an apprentice??

JIN a legend? Na wa o.
You would soon call Mode-9 a legend.

That's what you'll soon call Jin . . . after 10 times of listening to his verses.

The same Eminem that destroyed Ja Rule and many other cats in the rap game.
If you put your head in it, Eminem would rip your skin to bits.

Heehee . . . Ja Rule?? Even Eedris with a Wackawickee MCs Part 2 would send Ja Rule to the great beyond . . . who else?? Fred Durst, Limp Bizkit and ICP??

Worse than 8 mile!!!!
Eminem is killing em.

This ain't 8 Mile bruv . . . and Eminem is killing Sarah Palin and Kim Kardashian . . . Eminem is the King of Hip Pop.

~Sauron~:
Soulja Boy was alive and kicking when Eminem won the Vibe awards. 930,000 votes(hahahahaha).
U gotta respect that, don't you??

Soulja Boy received boos and jeers with his first outing . . . "Crank Dat" really cranked up peops' craniums . . . if truly Vibe is what we know it is, "Kiss Me Through The Phone" would be the best rap track ever if they're to conduct another 'poll' . . . and Soulja Boy would be the definition of an MC.

2Pac?? That over-rated piece of shit.
Eminem will make him question his DNA with witty lines and subliminal disses.
We are talking about punchlines not Bleep Biggie, Bleep Bad Boy records. . . .Chino XL, Bleep you too(rants of a 12 yr-old autistic patient).

Hehehe . . . you're not even gettin' what I'm saying . . . the mere boom of Pac's sonorous voice and Eminem would scamper for safety . . . he'll begin to ask God why He created him . . . Pac was not a man to beat about the bush . . . when he declares war . . . you know what to prepare for.

He was able to do that cos he had the backing of Marion Knight(the top dog in LA).
2Pac never dissed anyone before he joined "Death Row" and he was never a thug. . . . .The only thing he went to prison for was sodomising a woman forcefully. Don't get carried away by 2Pac's lies that he carried gats and tec-9s.
They were all fables.

Pac went to jail ever before he met Suge . . . why did he need to diss anyone before joining Death Row?? . . . the Pac/Biggie feud that you lot love to term the East Coast/West Coast rift did not become full-blown until his incarceration . . .

You forgot your anthem - Pac's only record with the law is jay-walking . . . what else d'you wanna tell us that we don't already know?? 

Hehe . . . Pac was busy praising a gun when Eminem was dreaming about divas whose shoes he can only hope to shine (Spice Girls, Mariah Carey, etc) . . . some doubting Thomases never believe a dude is carrying a lugger until they hear the shots . . . 

Kill who on a track? All those nonsense rants like a child throwing temper tantrums?
U sound as if no one dissed 2Pac in the East/West shizzy. Niggaz were more scared of Suge Knight than 2Pac.
They feared Suge not 2Pac and all the other muppets on Death Row which was why Pac was always vulnerable anywhere outside Los Angeles.
He kept getting shot everytime he ventured out of California(is that your idea of a thug). . . . .Pac was a womanliness!!!

No one is even claiming Pac was a thug here . . . you lot are the ones who keep screaming overrated when referring to Pac's so-called gangsterism . . . Pac never called himself a thug . . . we've travelled that road before so ain't no use saying it again . . . if you can't get it for the umpteenth time, there's no chance you'll get it even if it's recorded on a tape for you to play back everyday.

Pac was just a normal dude with a lion's heart . . . 

Nelson Mandela?? Roflmao.

Get up.

Nelly is not hardcore. . . . . so his sales mean shyte!!!

And what's Eminem?? Hehe . . . don't even mention the word.

9ice? 9ice was still in diapers when Eminem was bursting rhymes on "Guilty Conscience" and "Brain Damage".

Ok sorry . . . he borrowed it from 2face . . . 

The "3AM" single outsold Nas' last album.

The time must be 3.00am . . . and you must be dreaming . . . 

Let him suck it. . . . . .anything to make us laugh is widely acceptable.

He sure makes me laugh . . . I'm all for more . . . why not letz draw up a list for him?? Osama Bin Laden's jack in his mouth would be good for a start . . .

~Sauron~:
Look at Bam hating on the White Boy!!!

The Westwood schitzo was easily Eminem's best freestyle in ages.
He fucking ripped it and silenced his critics including you.

Critic?? Well, I guess you mean that constructively . . . I'm one of Eminem's fans . . . but I'm never blinded by solidarity . . . if my fave MC spits bollocks, I'll say it as it is - "he's spittin' bollocks"!!

How can u call the gibberish JIN was doing a classic freestyle. . . . There was no beat.
What is to say he could keep up the same mumblings on a good beat??

Look at the same Sauron who prefers lyrics to rhythm . . . the same Sauron who could dance to an a cappella freestyle . . . Mode9 musta had you in mind when he released "Contradiction".

When his opponent was rhyming, the audience kept quiet even though the dude had some pretty decent punchlines.
Before JIN even said a word, they were like whoa whoa whoa.
They are all JIN's dickriders.

Another contradiction . . . thought you called Verse "an apprentice" . . . now he suddenly has some pretty decent punchlines . . .

Go listen to the track again . . . I'm sure at the 10th hearing, you'll call Jin a legend . . . 

Eminem would murk JIN, drink his blood in a bathub, devour his meat and leave the bones for his pitbulls.
What do u think this is? Wack-R-us?

Whilst Eminef is busy searching for big words that make no sense, Jin would send him back to his mom for more breast-feeding . . . same Eminef that was engaged in a hot rap contest with his mom?? 

You think this is 8 Mile?? 

You have a right to ya opinion . . . so say whatever you wanna say . . . at least you don't have to pay for it . . . 

Scoring Jay-Z higher than Nas in terms of consistency and claiming he's influenced Biggie/Pac is preposterous . . . it's all good though . . . but the rule here is post your choice and beat it . . . 

~Sauron~:
Then Soulja Boy or Lil Wayne shoulda won it if the voters were all dud like you claim.
With one mouth you say Eminem is great, with the same mouth you say Eminem forces his rhymes.
Which one should we go for?

If the same voters should vote again, Soulja Boy'll win with a landslide . . . I'm sure Eminem has disappointed them with his 'baleed' rhymes in Relapse . . . Heavens, these voters would prefer "Kiss Me Through The Phone" to "We Made You" and "Crack A Sh*t" . . .

And u think Eminem won't murk 2Pac??
2Pac as a rapper cannot even battle. . . . .He shouts and what would he say?
Reh reh reh, Eminem i f'ucked your wife and your mother. . . . .Bleep Dre/Aftermath. . . .I will eat your kids and make sure they don't grow??
Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeease.

Eminem would become a pastor if he dares mention 2pac's name on a record . . . he'll carry a Bible everywhere he goes and vehemently renounce anything that looks like gangsterism . . .

You think Pac's battles are all about rhyming meaningless words?? When Pac was venting lava on all 'em East Coast cats, you think the invertebrae called Eminem woulda been able to cope with the heat??

When Pac says "I'll kill you" on a track, guys who knew the dilly understood that it was time to run for their dear lives . . . Eminem was shouting 'bout killing his mom and wife on a track . . . same guy that's so irked 'bout how Mariah left his arse high and dry??

Nas' past? Does he even have a credible past??
This nucca is broke. . . . .I remember him doing those Esco and Karl Kani commercials with his bucktooth.
Eminem's album sales alone = Nas' + Jigga's.
It's all about the Benjy'z and the street credibility(which Eminem has got from the Nuccas and the Caucasians).

I ain't surprised you're talking like this . . . is it not Sauron?? The Sauron I know would call Nelson Mandela the most beautiful girl in America just to win a debate . . .

A while ago, Nas was the 8th, 9th, and 10th wonders of the world . . . now, he has no past . . . what are you??

Sales?? Nelly must be one of the best rappers on earth.

Street Credibility?? Eminem musta borrowed it from 9ice . . .

3AM might just creep up in the list of top 20 Eminem songs.
It has a morbid feeling about it and the rhyme patterns are unique. . . . .it's new and very fresh.
As long as it generates sales and the song bridges the race barrier, KRS-1 can eat shit.

3AM is a downpour of poop . . . I'll rather listen to Muhammad Ali, even with his Parkinson's Syndrome, chantin' "rumble in the jungle" and "thrilla in manilla" non-stop for 5 minutes . . .

I agree . . . as long as it generates sales and bridges the sex barrier . . . Eminem can keep sucking Borat's you-know-what . . .

U can spin it, twirl it, tweak it and turn it.
All i know is Bamsyle has failed to find me a freestyle hotter than the eminem freestyle after 5 days of scouring the internet.

Scouring the net?? I wasn't even searching for nada . . . fact, I got the KRS vid from another thread just a couple of mins ago . . . it won't take me more than 45 secs if I need freestyle sessions that'll smoke that pre-written sh*t off.

Whether JIN is good or not, it's debatable but there's nothing debatatble about Eminem's video clip.
He cracked those verses on top of his head in the tightest of condition. . . . .

Tightest of condition?? Lawd-av-mercy . . . no cat to battle with . . . no cypha to boo (or applaud) . . . he confessed to having written the hook (even though we know the verses were pre-written too) . . .

Tightest of condition??

What makes you think JIN did not pre-write the bars he was spitting in that video?
Abeg. . . . . .Freestyle is what you can vomit off hand and you cannot tell me Eminem had "my pee is yellow, i am a nice fellow" as a prewriiten bar.

My pee is yellow . . . I'm a nice fellow . . . I work with MTN - Y'hello

It's spelled B-U-L-L-S-H-*-T.

The whole Westwood thingy are mediocre verses . . . with a sprinkle of even more mediocre verses here and there . . . just to convince peops it's freestyle . . . I ain't buying that sh*t . . . that ain't freestyle.

Did you hear Jin rounding off his verse . . . he referrred to the owner of the shop where he was battling at that time . . . that couldn't have been pre-penned . . . that's F-R-E-E-S-T-Y-L-E . . .

Did you also see KRS-One holding a mop that was beside him and saying "that's what we do to Hip Hop, we clean it from the top"?? . . . see how he bent over and referred to a bucket of water - rhymin' with pail and stale?? . . . that's F-R-E-E-S-T-Y-L-E . . .

And we ain't even talkin' bout the best freestyle verses ever spat yet.

Vocab pool or arsenal me arse . . . vocabs don't win battles . . . the first rule of warfare is - "Go straight for your enemy's jugular" . . .

Why sprinkle meaningless words everywhere when you can murk someone with just 2 bars??

If you wanna shoot, shoot . . . don't talk.

They are Hip-Hop fans who have belatedly realised Jigga and Nas are garbage.
It was a landslide victory for Eminem . . . . . .

Nah . . . they're fans of a strange genre of Music that's gradually creeping into Planet Earth . . . a genre of music that allows forced rhymes (rhymes without meaning/sense) . . . a genre that boasts of being closely related to Rap but ain't . . . a genre that's all about names-dropping and insulting celebrities to sell records . . . a genre that's all about sonics and no depth . . . they're fans of Hip Pop

Cos he knows his ass would get murked on record.
All Eminem needs is another dope beat from Alchemist.

KRS-One?? You must be mistaking him for Fred Durst and Sarah Palin . . . those are the dorks Eminem can cope with . . .

KRS was as candid in that interview as can be . . . within the confines of Civility . . . he's a gentleman . . . he said he'll never say anything derogatory about Em . . . I can imagine same question directed at 2pac or Fela Kuti . . . Eminem would be bathed with sh*t . . .

Cats like Nas have faded off. . . . . . .Used to be great but now he is irrelevant.
Did u see KRS-ONE bigging up 3 AM in the morning?? Hahahaha
He was asking he wasn't sure Eminem wrote those verses himself. . . . .That's how powerful 3AM was.

Nas' past is brighter than Eminem's future . . .

KRS-One was not bigging up that song . . . watch that interview again . . . he even said 50 coulda written that song for him . . . . . . in the next sentence, he says he ain't gonna say anything derogatory about Em . . . you're a Rap fan . . . you oughtta identify codes and irony . . .

Can you put 3AM in your List of Top 20 Eminem Songs??

Me and Westwood blasting off,
Jacking off in a pair of acid wash bumping Asher Roth. . . . .(This is superclass freestyling, JIN will choke doing this bar).

Hehehe . . . Jin will choke "MC Write-It-Before-You-Freestyle-It" with 2 bars . . . whilst eating a bar of chocolate . . . 

Jin is a NBB . . . Natural Born Battler.

@Sauron

He battled an apprentice. . . . .Even Sauron(with a pound of cess) coulda done better than that poof using nursery rhymes.
It's difficult to know if Jin woulda flowed seamlessly on a beat.
The rap lines look kinda disjointed.

You're kiddin' . . .

Apprentice or not, Jin murked the poor guy . . . why didn't Eminem do the same thing to MC Juice, Rhymefest and Supernatural?? They whupped his lean arse . . .

Are you tellin' me you've never heard Jin on a beat before??

@MrCrackles

I remember this freely battle when wayback was wayback!
Jin murdered verse!

You're sooo right!!

@Sauron

Bamsyle. . . . .That is freestyle aerobics.
I have posted a U-tube video of Eminem doing the same with Stretch Armstrong.
Stretch actually says a particular word and Eminem rhymes with it and just before he finishes that, another word is thrown at him to rhyme to.
That's even more difficult than a rapper choosing the words to rhyme to.

Personally, I prefer the Stretch Armstrong vid to the Westwood one you just posted here . . . go back and study that vid well . . . that ain't a freestyle . . . it's daylight fraud!!!

The videos you posted above are too lame compared to that Eminem freestyle. . . . .Are u shitting me??

It ain't how long but how well . . . and in Hip Hop, it ain't how well packaged but how R-A-W . . .

Those vids ain't lame . . . why?? They're raw verses . . . off the top of KRS-One's/Jin's head . . . you can SEE, FEEL, and almost TOUCH the RAWness.

Comparing Em's Westwood stunt to them is like comparing fireworks to naked flames . . .

Don't tell me you believe everything you see.

Bam, VIBE magazine didn't just wake up to say Eminem is the best rapper out there. . . .
There was an online poll of 900,000 peops and Eminem won it with a landslide when pitted with Jigga-man. If u listen to that clip, KRS-1 got it wrong with the way he was dissing Vibe.
Vibe did not manipulate the vote. If 900,000 peops(quite a chunky class size) feels Eminem is the greatest MC, then we gotta respect it.
The Source, XXL, Rolling Stone should do theirs and letz know the outcome.

The peops who voted . . . who are they??

In the ending credits, he said he RESPECTS Eminem and he should do his THING.
That is enough comfort for me.
I never knew a legend like KRS-ONE will one day say he respects a white rapper.

KRS-One was being civil and you know it . . . he even said he ain't the kinda cat to talk down on him - does that not mean sumn?? 

Personally, I'd have hated KRS if he dissed Eminem . . . we all know Em is dope but naming him the BRA is pushing it too far . . . he doesn't even come close to cats like Nas.

@Sauron

Check Jin Vs Verse here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYmcy6NG05c

Also, see KRS-One doing F-R-E-E-S-T-Y-L-E here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvCkwlNq8DY

Check out how he was rhymin' with every person/object/situation around him?? For e.g. see how he picked up a disinfectant on a table close by and rhymed with it . . . also, how he pointed to the elevator he was waiting for and used it to rhyme too?? The list goes on . . .

Shorter than Eminem's but that's what I call F-R-E-E-S-T-Y-L-E . . . not some acting done with arched/furrowed eyebrows and a hook whose origin needed to explained . . .

Crazy vid, KRS' got mad intelligence mehn . . . Vibe just wanna kill Em's career with that bullsh*t . . .

*^{Sauron you need to see this}*

Em best alive?? Nah . . .

Nas ain't dead yet.

The Game - One Blood

John Legend - Save Room

No Air - Jordin Sparks/Chris Brown

Swagga Like Us - Jay-Z, Kanye West, Lil' Wayne

Hero - Nas

One Step at A Time - Jordin Sparks

Put It Down - Redman

Hip Hop Police - Chamillionaire

I Am Not My Hair - India Arie/Akon

Work It - Missy Elliot

Music & Me - Nate Dogg

Hush - LL Cool J

Little Money - 9ice

Forever - Paul Play

True Love - 2face

No One Knows Tomorrow - Asa

Bibanke - Asa

Diallo - Wyclef Jean

No Mo' Drama - Mary J. Blige

Vuitton:
Consistency: Unlike Nas

Most Influential: Nas, Biggie and Tupac

The things one reads on NL . . . one of these days, someone would come in here and say Abraham Lincoln was once a Nigerian President . . .

And again, no need comparing artistes . . . post your sh*t and buzz off . . . how many times must this be said??

ibkaye:
Which God forbid, he is, I saw him yesterday.

Hehe . . . he was wearing sunshades and singing danboroba shege, innit??

Prolly rearing cattle up North cos music ain't his forte.

Ibime:
How can Bamsyle compare Jigga, Nas and such freestyles to the stuff Eminem spit there?

C'mon mate!

AC no be fan!

I've not even started comparing this freestyle to anything and you're already crying like a footballer who just lost a penalty . . .

Buzz off.

~Sauron~:
He was talking about the hook.
U woulda known that was a pre-written hook. . . . .Em and Kon Artis were both rapping in sync to it.

You know the dilly, don't you??

He'd been spittin' his pre-written verses all along . . . and he worked hard at convincing the casual observer that those verses were on-the-spur-of-the-moment . . . he suddenly spins the hook and his twinny was chantin' it in sync with him . . . so, in order to douse our suspicions, he quickly throws up a defence.

Eminem is a good rapper . . . but he's a better actor . . . 

Take your time.
Why do i have a feening i will find Lil' Wayne and Flo Rida on this list?

Hehe . . . Sauron and Ibime are nos 1 and 2 respectively . . . 

How can my list have those two dorks?? They ain't on me radar . . . even if they turn into micro-organisms, I still wouldn't see 'em with me microscope.

I already posted my top 10 rappers somewhere on another thread set up for that purpose, you can dig it up

~Sauron~:
Did you hear the yellow, hello, jello rhymes?
Come on, that was FREESTYLING.

Those stuffs were not pre-written(i can bet on it).
Look at his hands, see his grip on the mic and his eyes. . . . . .Maximum concentration.
Any little distraction and he chokes. He was spitting those verses off his head.
I am extracting the lyrics now, you would see how a bit disjointed the lyrics are.

Keep laughing and i am still waiting for the freestylez from Nasir/S. Carter.
Lest i forget, where is your top 10 list!!!!

Question of the Day:

Why did Eminem explain, at the end of his 'Freestyle Session', that he composed the rap hook with his twinny on their way to the studio

Tut tut . . .

Ma Top 10 List would come up shortly . . . I won't keep you waiting in vain.

~Sauron~:
Bamsyle. . . . . .That was FREESTYLE.
It's not hard to tell when someone is freestyling. . . . .Just look at his eyes.
There's this level of concentration as he fixes his stare and his eyebrows crowd together.
If it was a pre-written verse, the face relaxes and you would know.

Sauron!!! I can't believe you just said that . . . Eminem can twitch his eyes all he can - he's got average enough intelligence to try and make his viewers believe he's struggling to cook 'em words up . . . how can he relax so much to the extent that every illiterate Zulu, Afrikaan, and even Malawi dude watching him would be able to tell easily that he ain't freestyling??  

I understand what you are saying but i would like to believe Eminem is capable.
His freestyle aerobics are always on point.
There was this Stretch Armstrong video i posted a while back when Stretch was dropping the words and Eminem was freestyling to it.

Eminem's style, ordinarily, sounds like someone having a freefall . . . like a car skidding off the road, and ending up at the precipice of a mountain . . . having a landslide . . . it's easy to believe he's freestyling when he's rapping ordinarily . . . you're still not gettin' me - if you mean freestyle in the sense of rhyming a pre-written verse to a beat played on the spot, then Em was freestyling . . . if you mean a non-previously composed verse, he ain't!!

I bet if that was Nas, your tune would be different.
Bam Bam!!!

Well . . . I can only laugh to that . . .  

U have a point there. I think i got tired of him.

Period . . . I'm cool with that  


Wordsmith, wuddup?? (it's gettin' interesting, innit?)

~Sauron~:
Do that, please!!!
Ma jaw dropped when i heard it.
Just when i thunk "Underground" was the best thing spewed in the last decade, this dropped on me lap.

Can u blame these rappers?
If it was battling, they have one minute to spew their lyrics so their chances of repeating old lines are minimal.
On radio, they go as far as spewing 5 mins non-stop. Even Shakespeare would choke on that.
How easy do you think it is??

I'm watching it now . . . and my initial fears have just been confirmed.

Really, when talkin' 'Freestyle', what immediate words come to your mind - "spontaneous", "improvised", "off-the-top-of-the-head" . . . etc.

Now, I agree that's pretty difficult . . . but believe me, the rules are a bit relaxed - more than when you're doing previously-written lyrics . . . this is mostly the time you're allowed to rhyme words that shouldn't rhyme (improvisation) . . .

I know it when a cat is freestyling, according to the foregoing . . . not when he's spittin' a previously-written verse . . . to a beat he just heard for the first time . . . now that's where peops get it mixed up . . . any good rapper can 'freestyle' a pre-written verse to a beat he's hearing for the very first time . . . it ain't as difficult as peops think it is . . . there's sumn called metronome in music - has to do with counts/measure/tempo for music performance . . . you can compose a rap verse without a beat and adapt it to any beat at all - even juju, fuji . . . and akpala - you pen rap lyrics, you oughtta know that.

Back to 'Em . . . I'm enjoying his 'show' . . . but I'm willing to bet it ain't a F-R-E-E-S-T-Y-L-E . . .

Yes, I can hear him mentioning "Westwood" (the name of the radio where he's performing, innit?) . . . he can go on and mention some thangs around him . . . that ain't freestyle . . .

Why??any rapper could have pre-written sumn like this:

So you guys could just lie to get me here?
So you can, sit me here next to Britney Spears?

Later, he gets on a show on BET with Jamal, Zephyr, and Nishan and spits:

Hey Jamal you just lied to get me in
So you can, sit me here next to your Nishan

Geddit??

Now, a lotta folks have argued bout whether freestyle oughtta be pre-written or on-the-spot . . . there's been a lot of Old School Vs New School debates . . . I ain't deciding on that . . . all I'm saying is - Freestyle, as you're referring to it right now, is not what I'm watching Eminem do right now . . . it sounds dope, but it was pre-written.

And those are just my immediate thoughts, I'll be back with more.

Your conclusion was. . . . .Eminem can never be as dope as he was between 97 and 99.

No, that wasn't my conclusion . . . it's a data collection kinda thing - his best freestyles as a whole, were in his pre-Dre era, when he was coming up and very hungry . . . he revives that hungry spirit once in a while - else I won't like "Underground".

I would like to see this top 10(leave out Pac and Big).

Aiight . . . very soon.

My problem with Nas is. . . . . .He hasn't wowed me in the last 6 years.

You just got tired of him . . . I used to like Snoop Dogg a lot . . . then I got tired of him . . . that doesn't make him wack . . . Nas still wows me . . . plus he's got some stuff that'll never die . . . how many MCs have that??

~Sauron~:
It's not an achievement. . . . . .This is lyricism at the top most level.

I'll listen and comment.

Bamsyle, we go fight o.
Look at the names you are mentioning.
Eldee----He believes Kanye is better than Eminem.
A-40-----As long as lyrics are about Cristalz, Lexus and Mafia suits, he doesn't wanna know about rhyme patterns and breath control.
Wordsmith----His wack lyrics on Rap section should tell you what he is about. He doesn't get it.

Well . . . I'll leave the parties concerned to respond to this.

Bamsyle, don't just dig up guguru and epa freestyles o.
Dig up the ones that can match the clip i posted(that was 3 weeks ago) not 1997/98.

What has the year got to do with it?? Or you're scared of hearing some unheard-of dope joint that Biggie spat before he died?? 

Eminem is dope, abeg. Stop beefing the white boy.

This is where my prob lies . . . you make me argue like I hate Eminem . . . he's in my Top 10 List.

He's dope . . . all I'm saying is that - when you're able to see clearly through the dust he raises with his name-droppin' lyrics, he ain't as dope as Nas.

Rappers do that a lot.
Canibus has 100000000 bars in his head but you would still see him repeat his freestyles.
Is it not better than Jigga who steals lyrics? Even Biggie/2Pac repeated their freestyles.

Then it ain't freestyle no more . . . if it ain't off-the-top-of-the-head, on-the-spur-of-the-moment sh*t, it ain't FREESTYLE . . .  it's just a style that's free!!!

~Sauron~:
Finally, i have CONVERTED an unbeliever.

I listened to that freestyle and i was like FUCKING HELL. . . . . . .This is mass HYSTERIA.
Em has nothing to prove after that clip. Nothing at all.
I challenge all the Nasiacs, JayZiacs and the Kanyeniacs to top that.

@ Bamsyle,

All ya replies are up there.

Hehehehe . . . you 'succeeded' in converting your twin bro and you're happy . . . 

Congrats, what an achievement . . . 

How about converting Wordsmith, A-40, Eldee, and other folks who easily see through your misleading ads on NL?? 

Don't worry, if it's all about freestyles . . . I'll dig up freestyles from Nas, Biggie, and even some from average MCs - that'll smoke Em's to ashes.

Just wait a lil' bit.

Hehe . . . same Em that performed the same 'freestyle' lines at Scribble Jams and Rap Olympics?? I'm having a fit of laughter . . .

~Sauron~:
@ Bamsyle,

Your Jesus example was laughable.

How many Jesuses were there when Christ died on the cross?
U said Nas' biggest sin was his inconsistency in the same breath with MCs are not demi-gods and they are all fallible.
If seasonal mediocrity is a general phenomenom with MCs, i don't see how Nas should be faulted solely for it.

Gosh . . . I really have to take the pains to explain this (forgive ma earlier assumptions  ).

Nas, by your arguments, has not been consistent . . . I agreed in principle (so as to dig holes in that theory), I did not concede . . .

Then I went further to tell you that if this is the sin that you're so quick to build your argument as to his wackness around, he has like three hot tracks for each allegedly wack track . . .

I again explained that this must also apply to Eminem and a lot of other good MCs.

How simpler can I explain for you to get it??

@Sauron

That was a weak comeback man.

You chose to side-step ma other points and answer the ones most convenient for you.

~Sauron~:
Look at Bamsyle boxing himself into a corner.
U dug a grave and you jumped into it.
If all MCs are not demi-gods like you are now claiming, how's Nas' INCONSISTENCY is biggest SIN??
U cannot argue in court, i would be sending your client to THE CHAIR.

I assumed I'm arguing with an intelligent fella . . .

There ain't no boxing/corner on this one . . . if I type "Jesus' greatest mistake was that he died for the sins of mankind", you would be quick to infer that I'm saying "Jesus committed an error by dying for the world . . .  

Quit this dumbass argument bruv . . . one day you might take it to the streets . . .  

Bamsyle, we are talking about the CLASH at the top now. . . . .I am not talking in the grand scheme of things.
Of course, Jigga, Nas, DMX, Eminem, Canibus etc are all excellent rappers but even at the top, we can still pick up the little faults around these rappers so if i say Nas is wack or Jigga is a BITER, it does not mean they are STILL not better than Soulja Boy or Lil Wayne.
Wackness or whatever i call em here is relative. I still buy any album dropped by these cats.
This is just picking on the fine margin between the creme de la creme.

Sauron, I consider you more intelligent than this . . . you referred to the Untitled album as "nothing to write home about" . . . now you're talkin' "clash at the top" and "creme de la creme" . . . what's relative about calling an album "nothing to write home about" . . . the same album that you referred to a few months ago (when your name was still Hannibal) as a classic?? This is called erm . . . hallucination . . .  

How's "Smack That" a garbage appearance? That was a commercial joint.
What do u expect? Eminem/Akon. How good was Michael Jackson/Biggie in 1995??
Does that make Biggie inconsistent??

I can now confirm that you listen to music through your nostrils . . .

Smack That, despite being a commercial joint, was a rain of garbage, a show of shame . . . ask any Hip Hop head or leg . . . what has the fact that it's an Eminem/Akon bond got to do with this?? Akon has more Hip Hop affiliations than MJ . . . I expected sumn more dope . . . Biggie, Meth, Pac, and other dope MCs have collaboed with divas and a lotta R'n'B crooners . . . why didn't they dumb down??

Nas is now a fable. He is as relevant as DMX or Ice Cube.
Can u live with that?

Of course I can live with it . . . cos it's coming from you.

I'll wait for any credible Hip Hop fan or critic on this forum or elsewhere to co-sign that before I even move a muscle . . .  

@Sauron

You need to chill and understand what I mean before you burst a vessel . . . 

By inconsistent, I mean Nas has put out some mediocre tracks in the history of his career . . . just like every other hot, lukewarm or wack MC . . .

Just like Eminem.

And again I say - for every mediocre track he has released, there are, on average, three tracks to smoke 'em out . . . geddit bruv!!!

And talking 'bout inconsistency . . . how about Sauron being inconsistent When the Untitled album dropped, you copped it on i-tunes and jerked to it . . . if you want me to dig out your comments less than a year ago on that album, I can . . . it was a classic album to you then . . . so what's happening now, bruv??

Still on inconsistency, how about Eminem's Encore?? . . . what about Infinite where he was accused of and even admitted sounding like Nas?? . . . how about Eminem's garbage appearances during his hiatus (Smack That, Peep Show, etc)?? Ain't you forgetting in a hurry??

All hot MCs are humans like you and I . . . they're not demi-gods . . . they eat, sleep, drink . . . they err . . . and the longer the career, the more mix of the good, bad, and ugly . . .

How has Nas faded off?? In spite of his donkey years in the industry, he's still more relevant than Canibus and Eminem waxed together and multiplied by 4.

Snoop, Eminem, Fiddy - these are ALL mainstream rappers . . . Dre excels at producing such . . . do we need to arrange a special class for you on this?? Nas' style is different . . . he's underground . . . and I daresay the most successful underground MC ever to bless the mic . . .

And I always laugh when you sing tunes like this till you turn hoarse . . . The Dr Dre-produced album for The Firm was criticized for one reason - its focus on a mainstream, R&B/pop-inclination, rather than the more gangsta style the individual members were already known and respected for. In particular, Nas was accused of seeking pop stardom at the expense of his roots . . . so get your facts right . . . The Firm's failure with Dre wasn't as a result of Nas' incapability . . . why do you like twisting facts so desperately at the expense of losing a debate??

And despite his underground sound, Nas is well respected/accepted by Rap's fans, fanatics, and haters alike . . . unlike a monumental failure like Canibus . . . NAS IS AN ICON.

There you go again - twisting statements and facts . . . what I said applies only to Eminem being labelled as the inventor of the concept known as "rhyming words which shouldn't rhyme" . . . I ain't saying old school rappers are better or worse . . . I don't dwell on the past . . . but I also don't forget it.

You're only repeating what I said - although you largely contorted it . . . Eminem should not be given the title of "The Inventor of Rhyming Words That Shouldn't Rhyme" . . . Rakim deserves it . . . Eminem only took it to another level . . . Kapish??

You really need a sex change . . . cos of the way you're always gettin' on Eminem's you-know-what (plus we ain't even sure Em's not gay - after the Borat incident) . . . 

Now, seriously . . . you're mis-interpreting me again . . . I never said Eminem ain't a freestylist . . . Freestyle is fundamental to Rap . . . anyone of Eminem's, Biggie's, Jigga's (etc) calibre in the industry must be able to freestyle . . . all these cats grew up battling, rhyming in cyphers, beat-boxing and all . . . so it ain't even sh*t that your favourite MC can freestyle . . . what should a river produce if it ain't water?? All I'm saying is Eminem IS NOT the best freestylist ever . . . he can't mess with cats like Jin . . . he can't mess with Biggie on a good day . . . I would dig up Biggie's freestyles for you, maybe you've never heard of 'em . . . and I can continue to name a lot of rappers who're better than Em at freestyling . . .

Eminem's best freestyles were even spat during his hungry days (pre-meeting with Dre) . . . and yet he got his ass whupped by Rhymefest, MC Juice, and Supernatural (all underground cats) . . . we told you before on this forum . . . go do your research.

20 evergreen joints?? Oh, so you think I made a complete list of all his evergreen joints?? Nah, bruv, you should know better than that . . . if you want a more comprehensive list, ask and you shall be given . . .  plus it's so amazing that you continue to quote from an MC you consider as wack - Jigga.

You like making sweeping statements - who is "Everyone"?? . . . what's general consensus?? (I don't even need to visit the so-called rap sites cos I'm sure to meet mixed reviews) . . . how about arguing based on your own convictions?? And why do you like giving your own reasons to justify actions taken in private by MCs you love to hate?? . . . you keep singing choruses like "Nas was afraid of a collabo with Em on "The Cross", "Nas deleted his verse from the album version" - all these are called Tales By Moonlight.

1) Eminem is bereft of meaningful lyrics . . . he makes you laugh, impresses you with his wordplay . . . but in the overall, he doesn't strike you with some theme you can learn from/get inspired by . . . he had a flash of inspiration on "Lose Yourself" and a handful of joints . . . whilst clowning, he needs to task his brain cells more and make music that'll make peops consider him as one of Rap's Greats.

2) Eminem is too shallow compared to Nas.

3) Nas' rise to fame and respect is devoid of cheap publicity stunts and name-dropping just to sell records . . . Eminem's pedigree abounds with such.

4) Nas has put out more classic material than Eminem . . . it's not gonna be easy to count the number of classics he has . . . I can count Eminem's off the top of ma head.

5) Nas is much better at rhyming words - with sense . . . Eminem likes to rhyme words at all costs - and most times, they make no sense.

Don't even letz go on with this . . . I could go on and on . . . Rap ain't Pop or R'n'B . . . nah, it's more serious stuff . . . there are some things you just can't get away with (like forced rhyming) - especially at a certain level of your career.

Well . . . unlike you, I ain't biased or carried away by stunts . . . I clear whatever haze is in front of me eyes and try to see clearly/focus in spite of the hocus-pocus . . . Eminem is a good rapper . . . but Nas is miles ahead of him.