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One of the things I hate most in life is peops arguing without nous . . . how can such a sweeping allegation/conclusion be made just cos of a single event?? An event of omission, not even commission??

And to think that there are worse allegations making the rounds bout other artistes . . . allegations that are more warranted/credible . . . yet unfounded . . . just a couple of days ago, there was a thread on this section where Terry G was accused of swindling Shakar El Swagga . . . I chose not to comment cos I don't know jack about the story . . .

Same also happened to ID Cabasa and some other dude who claimed he gave his song to 9ice . . . and all these stories remain unfounded . . . there are always two sides to a story so why can't we press pause and wait for events to unfold??

Well, bombsquad - no disrespect intended . . . I just hate these kinda unfounded allegations.

bombsquad:
and now BAMYSYLE is telling me lyrics no longer matters in nigerian music but delivery, chei,god help us.

You're an illiterate . . . so it would be pretty difficult to get anything into that pachydermous substance you call your brain . . .

You just don't get it do you?? Quote wherever I stated that lyrics no longer matter in naija music . . . you're obviously confused . . . 2face at his wackest is better than that junkie of your brother you call Terry Piss.

Jeez, I'd rather spend my time arguing with a goat than this BS.

bombsquad:
@ Bamysyle : there was nothing spectacular about tufraud's delivery on that track, 'Love you microsoftly'/////do you really consider that spectacular??then you might just not be educated, he screwed up on the track in question and his performance was far below par,

Am I arguing with a galoot??

Is that the only line on that song?? And do I need to tell you that the word 'delivery' is what it is and has nutin to do with lyrics?? You need to quit skipping English classes.

Wyclef jean came out of a hut in cuba which is a very poor country, who says tufraud cant be the next biggest thing in the world??

I really tried to refrain from calling you a scumbag after reading these asinine comments . . .

Look at you talking bout Wyclef like he's your kinsman . . . you don't even know he's from Haiti in Latin America and not Cuba . . . and talking bout odds against him, Wyclef relocated to New York at the age of 9 and has lived in different parts of US ever since . . . compare him to a 2face who's been living in Nigeria all his life and yet, keeps making sensible songs . . . with the breakdown of all the social infrastructures in Nigeria . . . the epileptic light, the bad roads . . . even robberies and close shaves with death . . . I guess the hardship of Nigerian life has really affected your thinking . . .

you obviously dont have enough confidence in yourself and your country and are very complexed for daring to insinuate that i meant r-kelly is somewhat of a tingod, who gives a sh*t about him??but im guessing tufraud like you saw rkelly as a god which is why he felt we would all be estaatic and filled with fear and joy when we saw the name r-kelly emblazoned on his jacket sleeve

where you see odds i see underdog advantage, where you see hopelessness i see opportunity, and were you see genius i see FRAUD!!!

Look at this blockhead . . . tykes like you make it difficult for one to restrain from using unpleasant terms when posting on this forum . . .

You must have so much confidence in your own country that you cannot see anything good in 2face . . . all you can see is the fact that he did not rush at Kels at the airport just to prove a baseless point to a dolt like you . . . and for that, he's a fraud . . . are you a pinhead??

I have confidence in one thing though . . . your matchless ability to always behave like a daftie.

bombsquad:
@ Bamysyle :You havent contributed to the topic with anything meaningful just the usual nigerian sentiment yadi yaaaa, Why do we always have to overlook the obvious for the sake of 'the boy has tried'??the fact remains he tried to fool us and the one true chance he couldve proven otherwise he was nowhere to be found, Tu-fraud has lost and he was also in the business of danceable beats long before now, matter of fact,he started the junk music with songs like 'come and party with my friends e-yo,chikala go full'e pas shayo so tey point and kill you go dey carry dey go'//, he started the meaningless junk.

Look mahn, I ain't here to have a dumbass argument . . . what sentiment did you observe with my post?? I stated that his album was a classic . . . and the song with Kels was fantastic . . . it ain't me bizniz whether or not he was present with Kels in the studio . . . if 2face had messed up with his delivery on that track, I'll be here tearing out his heart . . . but he didn't . . . and I was not in the studio when he recorded it . . . why don't we all wait till the whole episode plays itself out before we jump to baseless conclusions??

Nigerian sentiment?? Do naija peops love their own?? Hell no, naija peops like you would rather tear down your own instead of defending him. What's the biggity in 2face saying he recorded a song with Kels?? Is Kels a god?? They're both artistes mahn so quit the balderdash . . . talking like he's too big to be in a studio with him . . . with all the odds against him as an African, worse still a Nigerian . . . 2face is still reeling out meaningful songs . . . and you're here talking about his poop should be brown and not green . . .

I can't see anything obvious being overlooked here . . . that he did not rush at Kels to untie his shoelace at the airport means shiite . . . who're you that he should prove his collabo with him??

2face started junk music in Nigeria?? My days . . . you'll still come here to say Y'aradua is the most beautiful girl in America . . . long before he went solo, there were the likes of Eedris, Tetuila, Ayangba Boyz, etc who were killing our eardrums with danceable garbage . . . does someone's memory need a visit to the factory??

And you comparing him with Terry Piss or sh*tever is preposterous.

If "the boy has tried" as you said, why not give him a lil' respect?? He's one of the VERY FEW naija artistes making meaningful songs these days so cork it.

@Topic

Why do some dorks always major on minors?? Someone went to the studio and released a classic album . . . self-acclaimed pundits open their foul mouths to criticize . . . "2face is making babies, he doesn't have a good voice, he didn't record with RKelly" . . . blah blah . . . what's ya bizniz with all the investigations?? Are you an FBI agent??

Whether or not he recorded with RKelly ain't me bizniz . . . all I know is "Unstoppable" is a classic . . . it's filled with mature songs . . . not the mediocre trash laced over danceable beats that y'all love to gig to.

If 2face had been the first person to hug Kels at the airport, I'm sure you'll say it's a fake Kels . . .

If you can't criticize constructively and got nutin to say, tape it shut.

It ain't nutin new . . . a celebrity reaches a level in his career that his fans 'immortalise' him and think he can never die . . .

He dies . . . and they all go "he faked his death, he'll resurface one day"!!!

Same conspiracy theories still abound IRO 2pac, Elvis, and a lot of other Greats.

khanye:
What do you mean by that?

If every song contained acid . . . the acidity level of "Bobbee FC" is so weak that even a 6-month old baby would sip away unhurt . . .

khanye:
Bobbee FC is trash
and should be banned!

Hehe . . . not only for being vulgar . . . it should be banned cos it drips of 'wack juice' . . .

Genuflect:
@Bamsyle You see. What you did there is what I normally do too. They have done good works before or are capable of so when they do something trashy, I just hope they will get back on track. The reason why I mentioned those up there is because you were so insistent on lyrics. I know they all have wonderful songs. For example, 'Chinekeh Meh' by Timaya has some of his poorest lyrics but when I remember 'True Story' or 'Ogologomma', I just let it go. D'banj has 'Olorun Maje', 'Celebrate', for God's sake he can play a mouth organ, so I just laugh when I hear Entertainer. Same thing for Zeez. I've been hearing his songs since 'Orin to ba ti fe'. I know he has it in him.

Largely, we've been discussing songs, not artistes . . . so before I burst a gat on DJ Zeez, I'll wait for him to come up with sumn averagely ok.

At least, Bobbee FC was creatively okay, even though it was vulgar.

What the . . . ??

Sonically speaking, "Bobbee FC" is even worse than "Fokasibe"!!! . . . and I even rate "Same Ni" (both the original and remix versions) over that song . . . just cos he was using soccer parlance to sing does not translate to creativity . . . and I'm even turning a blind eye to the vulgar-side-of-things!!!

So we are kinda on the same side. And concerning 9ice, I had never thought of having a best Nigerian artist before I heard his songs. To me, Gongo Aso (album) is a classic.

Right from the "Little Money" era, I knew the dude was gonna blow . . . that's one thing about music, take a musical masterpiece anywhere in the world and it will blow . . . good music transcends language and racial barriers.

Genuflect:
Subjective, in the sense that you think the lyrics are trash, while I don't agree.

Well . . . one fella's meat is another folk's cyanide . . .

To me, it is just ok.

To me, Fokasibe's lyrics should be flung outta the window . . . well, respect begets respect . . . and I respect ya opinion.

I can give you a list of artists who need serious lectures on lyrics. Artists like Timaya, Terry G, D'banj, J. Martins and even P-Square.

And I ain't gon' counter you on that list . . . but letz dumb down a bit . . . like I said earlier, I won't crucify or justify an artiste judging by his lyrics only . . . some of these artistes have some fairly ok tracks - judging from the 'general craft' angle . . . Timaya's "True Story", "Dem Mama", D'banj's "Mobolowowon", even "Suddenly" are fair . . . some of these artistes can be at least sonically good when they want to.

There are many sides to 'a good song' . . . the parameters include lyrics, vocal rendition, cadence, etc. . . all or some of these indices come together to help us decide the quality of a song.

My major prob with 'Fokasibe' is that the song doesn't scale any of these 'hurdles' . . . the song in itself (i.e. a cappella) just doesn't appeal to me from any angle: lyric-wise, sonically, etc. . . it has one thing only - a good beat.

And till date 9ice is still my best Naija artist cos his lyrics are so deep rooted, I have to ask my elders for the meaning. But all the same, I think you have a point

That's exactly what I'm saying . . . 2face, 9ice, Asa . . . and a few others are doing what IMO is called 'Music' . . . others are still musing . . .

Genuflect:
@Bamsyle I think this is getting more and more subjective by the sec. You must have missed out the part where I said 'just get referred to once in a while'. The 80's songs were big hits but you hear them now if you want to reminisce or just pay respect and stuff. You can't go to a club and hear the DJ playing all 80's stuff unless it's a special occasion.

What's subjective in asking that a particular craftsman hone his skills well enough to be labelled "skilful"??

It's good enough that these songs "get referred to once in a while" . . . how many of the trash Naija songs of this age do you think will be 'referred to once in a while' in a couple of years, even months to come?? And that's not to mention how the evergreen songs are being remixed, sampled, and even being referred to in popular culture by the day . . . these songs just won't die . . .

I myself love those songs you listed above but I only hear them by myself and stuff. In terms of quality of party songs, I totally agree with you but why do you say Fokasibe is trash? What's wrong with his lyrics? And do you want every singer on the radio to be a trail blazer? They don't come in flocks. Just a selected few. There are some of these artists that I'm so sure would get to that 'Fela' status: Asa, 2 face, Nine etc but only time will tell sha.

You're missing my point . . . I'm not asking anyone to be another Fela, Bob Marley, MJ or whatever . . . fact is - these icons can never be replicated . . . my point is - hone your craft well enough to be referred to as a credible artiste!!! Plus, I'm not sure these mediocre naija artistes listen to songs released by these icons . . . else they would never sing half of the trash they sing . . .

I'm not even saying they should become legends . . . figuratively, all I'm saying is they should "shoot for the moon . . . even if they miss, they'll land amongst stars"!!!

What's wrong with Fokasibe's lyrics?? Are we referring to the same song?? A song that featured repeated lines like "to ba de Yankee won gbo wa n be . . . gbogbo JD, a lenu pa" . . . puleeeezzzzz, don't make me post the whole lyrics to that song!!!

The prob I have with this generation is that well-packaged mediocrity is more recognized/accepted than sensible stuff . . . half the Nigerian music-listening populace is too easily carried away by danceable beats!!!

And ain't nutin wrong with creating slangs in music . . . my days, IMO, Fela (permit me to refer to him again) had more slangs than those of these contemporary acts fused together . . . but not only did he always make sense . . . he was skilled!!!

@Genuflect

I see where you're coming from . . . but the fact that a song is a party track is no excuse for its mediocre lyrics . . .

Erm . . . letz not mention rap songs . . . letz not even mention foreign tracks . . . letz mention Nigerian songs . . . songs of DJ Zeez's generation . . . 2face's "For Instance" is a 'party track' innit?? What about his "True Love"?? . . . What about 9ice's "Gongo Aso"?? . . . letz keep the list short . . . compare the lyrics of these three songs to "Fokasibe".

And I totally disagree that such songs are not meant to last forever . . . if I'm doing a compilation of greatest music hits ever . . . of any genre . . . I can see songs like "All That She Wants" (Ace of Base), "Moving On Up" (M People), "I'm Coming Out" (Diana Ross), "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (Michael Jackson) . . . these are songs of yester-years . . . very danceable . . . spin them on your CD player today . . . spin them 50 years to come . . . and they'll still sound evergreen.

Look, I'm not even saying all songs must contain 'serious' or grim lyrics . . . I ain't saying all artistes must be griots . . . all I'm saying is that an artiste must be skilled in his art . . . skilled in the way (s)he rides the beat, the cadence, the use of words, the language . . . that's what makes music more elevated than speech . . .

If I can't listen to your track a cappella and 'feel' it, what's the essence?? Now you strip "Fokasibe" of the nice beat and listen to it a cappella . . . tell me what you hear??

Status Quo?? Erm . . . Biggie's "Hypnotize" was about what?? Oh, sorry that's foreign . . . 9ice's "Photocopy", "Party Rider", "Street Credibility"??

That you're bragging about your prowess, fame, ability, etc is a well-known/accepted thing in Music . . . but it's no excuse for reeling out trash lyrics . . .

If Fela and Bob Marley are trailblazers, why can't artistes like DJ Zeez also be?? These artistes just cashed in on the current Music Boom, period.

And in Nigeria, fart and belch on a hot/danceable beat and party-loving folks would call it a hit.

There's no crime in making money and being an opportunist at it anyway . . .

Just that time will separate the men from the boys.

MJ was more amazing as a performer/entertainer . . .

BM was more amazing as a recording artiste/inspirational singer . . .

To know who was the better of the two . . . we'll first need to answer this question:

Which is better - the nose or the mouth??

Slangs are allowed in music . . . however, a song, whether or not it employs slangs to pass its message, should have impressive lyrics!!!

Loads of songs coming from Nigerian artistes nowadays are trash laced over good beats/production . . . 'Fokasibe' is one of them . . . no crime in going 'commercial' (you need to feed ya family  ) . . . but not at the expense of making sense . . .

It's the Mediocre Age of Music that we're presently in that allows trash like 'Fokasibe' . . . I'm looking past today . . . and looking at the next 12 months . . . max . . . would anyone still be spinnin' 'Fokasibe' on their CD players??

Why do people still listen to joints from artistes like Bob Marley and Fela Anikulapo-Kuti??

Genuflect:
@Bamsyle What? Now that's messed up. Sauron should know better

See the link here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-288907.0.html

And the tramp kept arguing blindly (as usual) even after being corrected repeatedly . . . 

Comparing MJ and JJ . . . using those indices

Holy Smoke , I've missed . . . what's going on here??

@A-40

I saw that thread , bwoi!! Sauron doesn't know the word 'a' should precede 'eunuch'??

I've always said it - the dude lacks English Language skills . . .

A lot of blame has been placed on the tutors . . . without a doubt, they're partly to be blamed . . . but not totally . . . the so-called graduates . . . parents/guardians . . . and every instructor at every point of an individual's developmental stages - all share a large proportion of the blame.

Education is a life-long exercise . . . it begins right from birth, continues for a lifetime, and ends in the grave . . . a lot of parents assume that it is unnecessary to educate a child of 0-5 years . . . the assumption is that he/she is too young to understand anything at that stage . . . that's a blatant lie . . . they can, and they do grasp a lot of things at that stage - languages, values, norms, etc.

Medical doctors would tell you that a mother can communicate with her unborn child whilst still at the foetus stage.

However, the most important person in your life is YOU . . . whether dealing with personal or interpersonal issues . . . no person can do it for YOU . . . by the same token, education is all about self-development . . . by constantly reading, writing, and speaking . . . from infanthood through adulthood . . . these skills are not acquired overnight . . . if a person decides not to develop these skills as an infant, it's impossible for a lecturer to shove them down his/her throat as an adult.

Our reading culture as a people, a nation, and even the world at large; is near extinction. People watch TV and listen to the radio now more than they read . . .

The internet, media, etc are all good sources of information/education . . . but when talking about spoken or written English . . . nothing can take the place of READING.

@Rapj

Very correct . . . Crowd Mentality is a totally different ball game from Safe and a couple of other MI songs.

A-40 stop there . . . what d'you mean by playground battle

This is what happens when, as they say, "one half of the world does not know what the other half is thinking" . . .

It's obvious the gap between that generation and this is as wide as the divide between Heaven and Hell . . .

Is Abati's generation immediately before ours?? Erm . . . what's a generation again?? Cos what I just read seems like an exchange between two divides that are 20,000 years apart from each other.

I mean - this generation is advancing at a geometric rate . . . even the so-called global village might soon become a global apartment . . . new milestones are being covered in Science/Tech and all-what-not . . . each millisecond . . . and out of the blues springs a prophet from the Medieval Era . . . wearing robes and preaching his sermon from a scroll . . .

I'm appalled . . . how can a journalist of Reuben Abati's status write like this?? It'll be bad enough for even a run-of-the-mill journalist to pen such a write-up . . . but not Abati . . . that write-up was not well thought out or researched . . . it attempts to make some good points (of course a large percentage of naija hip hop is crap) . . . but it's in bad taste.

And to place Nigeria's problems at the feet of Hip Hop?? No way . . . they're way too heavy to be borne by even Music . . . let alone Hip Hop.

Even the proponents of the so-called 'rebranded Nigeria' openly enlist the help of these artistes to do that.

Hehe . . . IGDFH (I go die for hia) . . .

Terry is one very good MC . . . grossly underrated.

Just a line to say:

Don't give up. YOU can if YOU think YOU can.

Genuflect:
@Bamsyle
You don't want Em to switch styles and you don't want him diva bashing. How? I don't really get your point. You want him to stop and continue at the same time? I like the way you've been logical about your other points but this is the one I just don't get. Personally, I don't really like 'We Made You'. It's not as sweet as his last four first singles but I didn't have any probs wit the topic. That's just his way. And I don't agree with you saying you can't mention him among Rap's Greats, though it's your opinion. And please, Em is not the type to just diss baselessly on a record. You heard how he bigged up Paul Wall, Bubba Sparxx and even Asher Roth which people have repeatedly pitched him against. By the way, have you heard those freestyles I've kept talking bout?

Lemme try 'n' make one thang clear - when I'm talking style, I basically mean flow, delivery, rhyme pattern, voice . . . basically every component that makes up the "sonic Eminem" . . .

That does not include diva-bashing and what-not . . . that's part of his subject matter.

That said, I'm ok with his style - talk about the delivery/flow, the rhymes (both basic and multies), the metas, the similies, the wit, the wordplay . . . he scores highly in all those.

And now - subject matter . . . that's where I have issues with him . . . I'm ok with him rapping about sinister and dark themes (playing the devil in Guilty Conscience, or battling the demon(s) in him in My Darling,) . . . I'm ok with his horror themes (Underground, Stay Wide Awake (even though I don't like his delivery on this one)) . . . that's what makes him shady as "Slim Shady" . . . I'm ok with Em the imp, the fiend . . . even Em the demon . . . prolly cos I like horror flicks.

My main issue with his subject matter is the names-dropping, celebrity-dissing, and diva-bashing side of things . . . it reeks of him seeking cheap publicity . . . of course someone would say he's already popular . . . but he needs to get the popularity going . . . so he drops popular names . . . that's cheapening of Eminem . . . and it even gets boring.

Lemme ask - when you visit a record store to buy an album, what's the major factor that prompts you to do so?? Is it not cos you dig the artiste's lyrics/delivery?? Now when you look at an artiste . . . an MC . . . who, by norms, ought to be reverred, and all you see as his overall theme is him talking about killing/raping his wife/mom and dissing celebrities who can't cross swords with him . . . at his level, I see that as bullsh*t . . . that's why he's selling - dissing celebrities sells . . . let him drop an album without misogynyst themes . . . letz rate him by his artistry alone . . . and let him sell by his artistry alone . . . he sells through celebrity disses . . . strip him of that and what d'you get

That's why I won't rate him as one of Rap's Greats.

Eminem is a shock value artiste . . . and right now, I don't even think he's really that shocking anymore . . . now what happens when, with time, his shocking themes reach a zero degree . . . and don't shock anymore??

Methinks he needs more than shock value.

kay_pumpin:
. . . . . and i still insist Em doesn't have to change his style.For how long now has Jay been a conceited-swaggalious-40's sipping dude.He owes no one any apologies for that his swag and i do not see him switching style to show change is the only constant thing in life or affirm metamorphosis.

I ain't asking for no switch in style or change in subject matter . . . fact is that's what even fetches him sales . . . all I'm saying (in this thread) is Em does not need this diva-bashing . . . especially when you and I know this ain't his usual phuckin' around schizto . . . and mess that, I just can't consider him in the class of Rap's Greats when all he does to sell is diss divas and other peops who can offer him lil' or no resistance anyway . . . can you call that a rap battle??

It's his style to clown most of the time but you and I know that in Rap, we can do with some mind-boggling sh*t . . . I mean - what was on his mind when he did "Lose Yourself"??

It's ok but it gets boring at a stage and you're like . . . grow up dude!!

Close you eyes for one moment and imagine a Marshall Mathers release without divas' disses

I just did . . . and heavens, it's B-L-I-S-S . . .

or devoid of Slim Shady personae

Nah . . . now this is where I'm prolly being misunderstood . . . I dig Em the Imp, Em the Fiend, I dig it when he does deep and dark sturvs like Guilty Conscience and My Darling . . . but dissing divas and celebrities?? That's cheap and I don't feel that!!

Attention from who exactly?

From the listening world . . . that's why fans of anything from Pop . . . to Rock, Jazz, Reggae or sh*tever listen to Eminem . . . he spews controversies . . . period.

So long as any of the songs ain't in My Band(D12's world)'s level,its cool.

Hehe . . . D-12?? . . . don't let's go there . . .

rapjunkie:
@Bamsyle

Would you advise me to listen to the rest of the tracks on the album? . .  . . . .i'm still convulsing after listening to ' we made u'

Hehe . . . listen in this order -

Old Time's Sake (will somewhat cleanse the bitter taste of We Made You from your taste buds) . . .

My Darling (pay close attention, it will show that all hope may not be lost on Eminem afterall) . . .

Careful What You Wish For (you'll immediately remember Eminem/Fiddy/Obie "Love Me" . . .

Underground (this is the climax . . . after that, just click stop . . . cos anything after that, me I no dey o!!!  )

No, not his age . . . it has more to do with his growth . . . his metamorphosis . . . his status - after a considerable length of time in the game.

Agreed he started that way . . . dissing people . . . and I ain't saying he's gotta switch his style . . . my point is - when an MC of Em's 'status' has an overall I'm-just-phuckin'-around, never-take-me-serious style, it's bad enough . . . but when you keep taking cheap shots at a diva . . . or divas . . . get a grip!!!

Bagpipes From Baghdad?? Hell no . . . that ain't phuckin' around . . . he's just whining like a baby who needs attention!

As for Relapse, I mos def dig some tracks on that album (Underground, Careful What You Wish For, even My Darling and Old Time's Sake) . . . but only the first two remind me of when Em used ta rap like he needed a deal (using your words) . . .

Well . . . maybe if I can close me eyes . . . and assume Eminem never did SSLP, MMLP and TES . . . maybe only then can I call Relapse an album of quality substance.

And don't forget - I'm a fan.

kay_pumpin:
I am not a hip hop head,i hate to be so labelled too.I feel the term infers to musical parochialism and disability.I mean,why should anyone with the copious genre and brand of music that abounds decide to nibble on just rap? I deem it the height of monotony really. . . . .

Hehe . . . good for you to start on that 'safe' note . . .  I always scream that clause whenever my locus standi on issues like this is put to question . . . 

BTW, I kick with any genre of music that I find appealing . . . variety is the spice of life . . . just that Rap is the most expressive genre I've ever come across.

@topic

I'm divided on this issue . . .

I welcome change . . . it's a constant thing in life . . . and in Music, the more change we have, the better . . . as long as it's progressive anyway.

However, Rap, unlike Pop, Rock, R'n'B et al, has its high standards et strict rules . . . example - anyone armed with a good voice, a good use of it, and a knowledge of Love and its offsprings, can become a good R'n'B singer . . . there are no strict rules or high standards . . . and that's why you won't find a Don Williams/Kenny Rogers generation screaming "crucify him" at Donnell Jones, Ginuwine or whoever . . .

In R'n'B, fans love and admire their fave artistes . . . in Rap, it ain't so . . . a good MC (especially back in those days) must command sumn deeper than love from his fans . . . something measured with terms like respect and awe . . . and there are so many hurdles to cross to be considered an MC of repute . . . there are broad-based issues like in-depth lyrics, sick delivery/flow . . . there are sub-issues like multis, in-rhymes, wordplay, metas et al . . .

An MC needs more than a good voice to be reckoned with . . . we're talking bout cats who grew up battling with rhymes improvised or spat on-the-spur-of-the-moment . . . cats who can spin one word with a thousand meanings . . . dudes who can move the world with words . . . a good MC (again - particularly back in those days) gets treated like a deity, a demi-god . . .

With all these determining factors, I ain't surprised that some folk would say Hip Hop is dead . . . of course it's cos the game has changed . . . some good . . . some bad . . . but when you do the math . . . the bad seems to outweigh the good.

It's a case of to of whom much is given expected . . . much more is expected.

Nice track . . . imagine a remix with 9ice, Lord of Ajasa and Da Grin . . .

Whether booed off or wooed on stage, 2face remains one of the top 3 artistes from Nigeria . . . and one of the best from Africa.

There's a lot of bullsh*t in that write-up . . . how can 2face be described as "Nigeria's one time top music artiste"?? And what could make his career take a turn for the worst?? Just cos he was booed off stage or cos he's making babies?? That's crap.

And how can 2face be mentioned in the same breath as Shakar, Terry G, K-solo, Mohits, Saucekid?? He towers above those cats . . . In a country where majority of the so-called artistes are just a buncha noisemakers who're busy reeling out mediocre trash on danceable beats . . . 2face, 80-sumn% of the time, makes use of meaningful lyrics in his songs. How many naija cats have made meaningful songs like One Love?? And that's to avoid making a long list.

When some peops refer to Unstoppable as a weak album, I question their music taste . . . that's a wonderful album . . . Nigerians must learn to decry the mediocre habit of artistes singing anything on a danceable beat and presto, a hit song is out . . . that's BS.

Apart from Enter The Place (which I hate anyway), you won't find those must-dance-to-even-if-shitty kind of songs on Unstoppable . . . it mainly boasts of songs with meaning . . . it's an evolved 2face, deeper and more mature.

What does that Abuja crowd want?? He should compose new songs for them on the spot?? They should go take a pee!!

Of course Kenny and D-1 are good managers . . . but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do . . . they're good for publicity and all that but must he live off them for life?? . . . and must he tarry until those predators milk him dry??

And of course he goofed with those baby-making sturvs . . . but some dorks are tryna sweep his hard work under the carpet cos of that mistake . . . that ain't right.

He's human . . . look beyond the occasional errors and his shortcomings . . . blot out the mistakes and you have an amazing talent in 2face.

@Genuflect

Letz call a spade by its name . . .

Eminem's behaving like a 12-year old in a 36-year old's body.

And don't gimme that crap 'bout him phucking around . . .

Phucking around?? I could take his other ish without batting an eyelid but "Bagpipes from Baghdad"?? . . . nah, that ain't phucking around, across, or even about . . . plus atimes he comes under that pretext to reel out garbage!!!

Relapse?? That's a heap of sun-dried dog poop . . .

What happened to Eminem after TES