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hopefulLandlord:
morals like taking another human as permanent property, passing that human to your children and children's children

beating that human to death so long that human survives for more than two days before dying?

I pity brainwashed people like you who can't see past indoctrination

I've been there anyways so I understand you

Hahahaha.. Hopefulandlord finish this subdued "intellectuals".

Mr. God, if he or she or it exist, is the most nasty and vilaineous character ever known to humanity. Mr. Hitler will chuckle at Mr. God's malevolence

truthislight:
Those things you picked out as evidence for evolution, things like DNA etc, aren't those lame? I mean, those are fixtures that makes us different one from the other.

For evolution to occur there must be individual variation. DNA shows all human beings evolved differently. Even Darwin postulate(way before discovery of DNA) individual must varie for evolution to occur by natural selection. So DNA is in favour of evolution not against it.

You know what? DNA is way more than individual variations. If you examine the DNA of all species, you will see that we all related. It is just like a family tree with branches. Our closest living relative are the chimpanzee base on the similarity (98.4pc) of our DNA to theirs . In fact the chimps are more closely related to us than they are to gorillas and monkeys. This shows living things evolved and diversify from a common ancestor

truthislight:
if you pick DNA as evidence for evolution, are you then insinuating that drivers races of mankind, better still different persons evolved individually since they have differences in their DNA?

Exactly. We evolved differently. Way before the discovery of DNA, Darwin postulated that there must be individual variation for evolution to occur by means of natural selection.

truthislight:
Such sort of evidence is similar to taking the varieties in human faces and looks to justify evolution of man. That will be awkward would it not?

It wouldnt. Our physical differences can be explained by way of adaptation base on the environment. Humans as we all know originated from Africa. It was when early homo sapiens left to Europe that their gene mutilated for white skin to adapt to their environment.

truthislight:
I am not towing a line just because Christian Dom does so. I have a mind of my own.

You have a mind of your own. Use it to see the evidence. Believing a god did ity doesn't show a good sense of rational mind.

truthislight:
BigBang happened according to your, Billions of years ago, BigBang is not here and now. Gravity is ongoing here and now with humans present, hence, gravity can be studied, a factor that is impossible in BigBang, hence, a believe in BigBang is but a conjecture. A believe in BigBang is a gigantic act of faith.

You seem at ease discussing other notion of evolution except BigBang, well, think of the OP analogy in relation to BigBang and creation of things, they both happened in the absence of human according to it adherents.

Big bang is just an hypothesis in trying to explain the origin of the universe. We don't have a definitive conclusion on the veracity of BigBang. This does not mean we won't in future. The unknowns of yesterday have become the knowns of today. The unknown of today will surely be the knowns of tomorrow. folding our arms and say oh we shouldnt investigate because a book said a god did it will be a ludicrous position. Science does not operate that way. Because if it does, all advancement humanity has made so far would have been a mirage.

Big bang is (origin of the universe ), evolution is (origin of species). Two different phenomena . One has become almost conclusively factual, the other(bigbang) is still under serious investigation. So I don't understand what you meant by saying " I seem to discuss other notion of evolution except big bang" . I wonder when big bang has a become a" notion" of evolution

truthislight:
Your example of evolution and gravity are unrelated.

You missed it. I am not sure if the argument is whether gravity is related to evolution or not.

Seems you misread that section.. You posited that evolution is just a theory. I was just explaining what a theory is within the definition of science bringing the theory of gravity as an example. Theory of gravity doesn't makes it a guess. It is real.. Theory is a scientific explanation base on real life phenomenon, facts, observations which can never be proven false. Just like the Heliocentric theory(the theory that the sun is the center of the solar system and the earth revolves around it.). This is a fact and it has become a theory because it has been fully explain and No one will be able to disprove that

Perhaps you should research what a theory means in the context of science

truthislight:
Gravity is here with us but Evolution/BigBang is not here with us.

Wrong wrong. Evolution is here. Your DNA on relations to the DNA of other species points to evolution.
Vestigial characteristics and organs within your body points to evolution. Bacteria evolves to possess resistance to some of our antibiotics that hitherto annihilate them. . This is natural selection for you.

you don't see how the earth revolves around the sun but you agree with the theory....Why Then do you have aversion for evolution?

truthislight:
your beliefs in evolution does not give you the liberty of constant experimentation like in gravity simply because you didn't and have not seen it or witness it.

Wonderful. .. So unless something is directly observed it cannot be revealed to be true. Do you see that the earth is spherical and rotates? Science is there to explain natural phenomenon by observable evidence. This was the attempt of religion which led our ancestors to conjure up gods in their primitive view of our world and our place in it.

truthislight:
The not seeing is the criticality of this discussion and the thread.

This is a lame argument.

truthislight:
For my mentioning of fossils, that is me reminding you that evolution was postulated without seeing nor evidence hence the effort ongoing to gather evidence via fossils.

And you still don't see the pile of evidence today for evolution? You don't see evidence when some section of christendom have come to embrace the facts of evolution but still maintained that God was behind it. An example is the bishop of Canterbury and the church of England. There are more than enough fossil records gather over the years already supports evolution.

And who told you fossils are the only evidence for evolution. There are also DNA similarity among species , vestigial characteristics, similarity of embryos etc

truthislight:
So, both stance are believe in what we have not seen. John1:18.

But the reality around us, using our thinking faculty does not suggest that things Come about by chance.

Wrong. Evidence for evolution overwhelmingly compelling its almost unanimously regarded as a fact. It will do u good and your god good if u take out time to research on evolution. Science just tells you what is true. It doesn't seek to disprove religion. Perhaps if you have any evidence to disprove evolution bring forth and win yourself a noble prize. Because this will change the course of biological - science

Evidence on the other end(gods did it) is next to zero.

truthislight:
You study without seeing you say? Yes, that is the argument nothing more. that boh has not been seen. Evolution and creation.

People also study creation and arrived at the conclusion that the complexities did not come by chance.

Both evolution and creation and BigBang have not been seen.

Why let your own unseen believe affects another person's unseen believe?

Kindergarten postulations.

truthislight:
What do you think you have succeeded in saying with all those grammar?

Did you or anyone of your sort witness "bigbag"?


Come here and tell me the one you have witnessed in evolution?

As a detective do I have to witness a crime before unraveling the perpetrators?
If I was in the bedroom room upstairs and I hear my door open and close, later came down to the parlor and saw my wife's handbag and shoes lying beside the door. I can definitively conclude that my wife was the person that came. Even though I didn't witness her coming in. That's the beauty of evidence.

truthislight:
Can you come here and tell me why your sort keep digging the ground hoping to uncover fossil evidence to support your conclusions?

You have a problem with that.? Why do we keep researching hoping to find cure for cancer, HIV etc. If you think our research and enquiry should be momentary then perhaps you wouldn't have been using Internet now. We will still be spending months in the sea traveling to other continent.

truthislight:
Is Evolution no longer called a theory?

The Theory of Evolution is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.

In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations. It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.

. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories.
Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess.

KingEbukasBlog:
[b]The Richest countries is the world are Christian-dominated countries [/b]so what is this one saying ? Do you know that cherry-picking is illogical ?

www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html

You always bank on this stale delusion but always fail to tell us how they attain prosperity by praying or just by being "Christian dominated". Tell us if prayers were on the menu to attain economic development.


No " Richest" country is as religious/christianised as Nigeria per head.

One would expect Nigeria to also be among the richest club.

KingEbukasBlog:
Honestly do you know what surveys and polls are ? Only an insignificant population of the nation are questioned on religiousity . Example if I should go to the northern part of Nigeria and ask 1000 people about religion , the results will be reported this way

over 95 percent of Nigerians say allah is god
5 percent of Nigerians say Yahweh is God

In the US , the Southern part of the Country are very very religious , more religious than the Northern part . If a survey is done in just a state in a Northern part of the country on religion , the figures will not exactly show how religious the nation is.

So these polls are not reliable

Official statics of religion in Sweden say that 6.3 million Swedes are members of the church out of 10 million while there 3,500 churches in Sweden .

And even if we go with the polls , the people who believe in the supernatural are way higher than the ones who don't , so what's your point ?

The bolded is the dishonesty I am concerned on. You read the article but hand-picked the only part the seem to suit your argument. Nevertheless you willfully omitted and distort some wordings of the bolded as it was writing in the article.

6.3 million swedes are members of church of Sweden by virtue of their registration as members at birth.


"There are more than 3500 churches in Sweden and the Swedish Church (Svenska Kyrkan) says it has 6.3 million members in a country just shy of 10 million people. Before 1996, children whose parents were members of the Swedish Church were automatically enrolled at birth. But according to Statistics Sweden, just five percent of Swedes are regular church goers. One in three couples that get married in Sweden choose a civil ceremony"

The italic above is the paragraph you so willfully distort to suit your stand.

Your distortions of facts won't go unchallenged.

Have a nice day.

KingEbukasBlog:
@Naijadeyhia @felixomor

They resort to lies when cornered and intellectually pummeled with facts

I wonder how you think your distortions of facts and intellectual dishonesty could "pummeled" or " cornered" any celebral mind here.

http://www.thelocal.se/20150413/swedes-least-religious-in-western-world

KingEbukasBlog:
Norway , Denmark and Sweden are Christian dominated countries . So what are you saying



Juche Ideology is a political religion . Political religions are not state religions or the normal religion we know . They are tools used by totalitarian governments to control their masses . In simple terms , North Korea as an atheist state uses Juche Ideology to control its masses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

I am sorry.. You don't know what you are writing about. Been reading you comments, you always misrepresent facts just to support your religious belief.

I live in Sweden and I can tell you the swedes - Scandinavians could careless about your god.

zubione:
Gooday Fellow Nairalander,

I am a graduate of Computer Science in a Nigerian University and plans to relocate to Italy.
Please your sincere advice will be appreciated. I have planned to relocate to Italy for greener pastures but my question is this: Is there job opportunities to at least start life from? How is life over there for Nigerians. Is it a friendly place to be?

Pls, I need experienced contributor. Thank you.

Are u Relocating with work permit or family immigration?

2)Are u obtaining a tourist visa with an intention to illegally stay back.

Advice
If 1, you will find things a bit easier than 2.
But Italy is not a particularly great choice because even young ethnic Italians themselves are emigrating in droves to more robust economy like UK, Germany Switzerland, Scandinavia and North America etc in search of better opportunities.

Option 2: Ticket to misery. Please I will advise you to stay back in Nigeria if you are using tourist visa to illegally overstay . Unless you want to roam the street of Rome or Milan begging like a mad man


Ps : As a graduate, why don't you explore student route if you are really interested in migrating

This guy/lady is just a m.O.ron. So anyone that doesn't believe in your delusions is a fool.

How does this prove god's existence.?

Myles Munroe who was cut up in an air crash with his wife proves god is non-existent? Oh God knows best?! He allowed it for a reason, he works in mysterious ways.

This god idea is the most nonsensical thing foisted on humanity

Getting visa is not a chance occurrence. It solely the decision of the consular office base on your home tie and your genuiness to travel for the purpose you stated

Bishop:
You mean this two countries, China and Singapore can not be included in my travel history ?

It can bro..

I mean travel within the African continent does not count much on that score. .

Sugarhugs:
Na we send her go get Aids? Abi when she they Bleep the Bleep we follow her enjoy am ni

Your comment is wicked, insensitive, classless and degrading.

Please wear some toga of humanity.

Joel3:
sorry I was expecting a response from a trained doctor. what prescription can you give.

This OP is not serious. How do you know a trained doctor on nairaland?

What drug did you take ? I am sure if a you went visiting a doctor and the doctor ask this question, you will be oblige to disclose. If indeed you need good advice here you don't have to conceal this vital information

OP
Do you go through anxiety (hypochondria) .?

Is the frontal headache associated with body weakness, fatigue, lethargy, fever, blurred vision, shortness of breath, heart palpitations?

Does paracetamol really relieve the pain?, if so for what interval?

Answer please. Only then can I proffer an advice.

But whatever the advice still seek help from an experience professional near you

udoka2:
when last did you check your blood pressure? its a symptom of hypertension...i may be wrong, but check your blood pressure first.

Wrong. Hbp is largely symptom-less. Ever wonder why it is termed silent killer. Every one is advise to check hbp tho regardless if u Ill or not

Bishop:
I intend to visit Italy as a tourist, i am stuck with the requirements or rather how to put the correct papers together. i also want to know the min balance to reflect on my bank statement.

it's not my first travel outside the country though But My first to Europe.

Any travels that is not out of the continent does not count much as travel history.

You can visit the embassy at water Carrington to get first-hand information on the requirements

Karzim110:
sorry... Planning to apply

Now you come. Good luck. Hope you made 2.1

loverencha:
@tolyem, thank you for good wishes..

I made application to a private school in Austria. The language of instruction in the private school is English Language. The school did not need legalization of my school documents to grant me admission but of course, Austrian embassy asked for this according to Austrian Law

I made application for admission by sending scanned documents (school results/documents, cv, motivation letter e.t.c.) by e-mail to the private school in Austria. Then the school made a phone interview with me after reviewing my documents and gave me admission letter. They sent this original admission letter to my home address here in Nigeria. Then, I took this admission letter to the Austrian embassy at Maitama in Abuja with all other of my documents.

I applied for a Student residence permit and not a Student visa, because for Austria, when u want to study for more than 6months u av to apply 4 a residence permit and not visa.

The first step to take is to get an admission letter from a school in Austria

Next...

You prepare your documents

School documents, including Waec result, transcripts, birth certificate, police character certificate (to be gotten at Alagbon), photocopy of data page of international passport, passport size photograph, certificate of state of origin, affidavit of bachelor hood/spinster hood, attestation of birth, sworn declaration of age, filled application forms (student residence permit application form about 9pages, to be filled in German language, filled Questionnaire form, about 10pages: to be filled in English)-you get these two forms on the website of Austrian embassy or by email when u write d embassy, financial documents, bank statement and document stating where you will reside in Austria.

You will also legalize your documents at the Ministry of foreign affairs in Abuja before you can submit them to the embassy because Austrian embassy will never accept documents that are not first legalized at Ministry of foreign affairs, Abuja.

Then you get 120,000naira ready

You book an appointment by phone with the Austrian embassy, they will give u an appointment date in a month's time when u should come in person to the Austrian Embassy in Abuja to submit your documents and they will collect the 120,000naira from you, this is lawyer's fee and u get a receipt at the counter during your interview.

After the day of your first appointment, you will go back home to await phone call from a lawyer from Austrian embassy. The lawyer will come to your house to make interview with you and your mother or father. The lawyer will ask you questions about your documents, school documents, when u finished school and all that... Then he will ask also your parent; (these answers you give lawyer have to rhyme because he will write them down on a notebook which is his report) Then you have to sign, the lawyer will compare your signature with the signature on the documents you submitted to Austrian embassy at the time of your first application, also your parent will sign. The lawyer will even go as far as asking you to show him your neighbours house so that he can ask them questions about you. Then after this, the lawyer will go to all your schools and confirm all the school documents you submitted to the embassy, the lawyer will take photocopies of all these documents and show to the people in charge of your results in your school, he will only ask them if your school documents/results are genuine or fake and if you really attended/graduated from that school. Your school councelor or principal have to prove to the lawyer that your school documents are genuine and he/she has to sign to approve your school documents which the lawyer will take along with him to submit to Austrian embassy. If you attended 2 or 3 secondary schools, the lawyer will go to ALL these schools to confirm your result also if you attended a university here in Nigeria, the lawyer will go to the Faculty/department to confirm your school documents and if the lawyer sees any fake document, that is the END of your application, the embassy will CANCEL your application and all your efforts and money will b WASTED! So, do NOT submit Fake documents. The Lawyer will write a report about you and go to embassy to submit this report. The lawyer will also go to the courts and notary offices where you got your other documents to confirm its authenticity and also the lawyer will go to Alagbon to confirm your police character certificate, even to the office where your birth certificate was issued, He WILL CONFIRM ALL, nothing will be left out. When the lawyer finishes with these investigations, he will go back to the Austrian embassy in Abuja to submit his report about you and your documents.. Aha, the lawyer will also collect about 2 or 3 of your pictures and your siblings pics and parents pics, he will submit these to embassy but this will be given back to you later.

Then, after lawyer submits his report about you, the Austrian embassy will review all and then make a decision, if d report from lawyer is good, you will receive a phone call from the Austrian embassy to continue your application to the next step which will be to go again to Abuja to pay your verification fee and application fee, this should be between 40,000naira and 60,000naira, depending on how many documents you submitted.

When you pay this, embassy will then legalize your documents and send to Austrian ministry in Austria. It is the Austrian ministry that will grant the residence permit. It takes some months for them to make a decision whether to grant u d residence permit or not, they will write u and let you know of their decision, if granted, you will receive a phone call from Austrian embassy to come to Abuja for 3rd time but this time, with your international passport, so that they will give you a visa so you can travel to Austria, immediately you get to Austria, you don't waste time, you go to the Austrian ministry to collect your residence permit card - (Austrian residence permit card looks like a credit card/Atm card)

I think this residence permit card is starting from 1year, then before it expires, about 3months before it expires, you apply for an extension of the residence permit when you are there in Austria

And... That's it...

N/B : It takes about 4-6months for processing your application for Austrian residence permit.

Good luck in advance to all those who are processing Visa/residence permit to Austria.

Mogbe oo..

Is this process for permanent residence permit or student visa. Omatse ooo..

Or is it a process for admittance to heaven

Richer countries like Norway, Sweden and Denmark doesn't employ such devious process for mere study permit.

Even neighboring Germany with the biggest economy in Europe doesn't come close to this obscenity.

This process is just crazy !!

Count me out. Austria ni, ajegunle ko

Karzim110:
Hello everyone, I'm planning to commence study for Msc in Manufacturing Management at NTNU. if anyone's there kindly holla so i get to know a few things about the school n the area. Thanks

You are about to commence studies? When did you gain admission?

Pavarottii:
Av been reading ur posts; am not quoting based on d above; just want to ask a question; if there is no Jesus and God; den how did we Humans come to enter this earth; like how were we created; don't u think there must be a creator somewhere?

Kindergarten question any adult should not ask in the 21st century.

Anyway,

Your question is faulty because it is base on the premise that humans were created. You are still reeling on the bible creation myth in Genesis ; to which evolution has shown to be pure NONSENSE. HUMANS WERE NOT CREATED.

ShoProperties:
i have been dreaming of Switzerland but i was told the cost of living there is high ...but i know it's better than Canada

Cost of living is high for sure in CHF and so is wages.
So it balances out.

Switzerland has very high wages and yet very low tax rates. Arguably the lowest tax rates in the developed world.

The choice isn't even close bro..

Assuming you will be traveling as a legal migrant to both countries. This is even a question - -->

SWITZERLAND CHF. I can't imagine many countries in the world with better quality and standard of life than Switzerland

Dapxavi:
Hello.. Ama fresh graduate... My first question is..... Is it necessary to undertake and proficiency test in English to get admitted in and Norway University for msc program.... Second question is which University in Norway offers msc in Accounting or related field...... Also can someone help me list of University that undertake msc program in Norway.... Thanks.. Pls Reply

Look read this thread from page one or better still make use of your Internet connection- you are living in the 21st century. If you do so, you will have no cause to ask the sort of questions you asked.

Ps: As a Nigerian, you don't necessarily need English proficiency to apply to Norway. You can't write IELTS if you got money to waste or if you are applying too to another country that requires it. But for Norway, it is a waste of cool cash.

klawaaa:
Please, must the funds be transferred before VISA can be issued?

Yes.. The funds must be transferred to Norway

smurfymorello:
What if my sponsor has no letter head .

Q: Whats is the requirements for undergraduate studies in Nigeria?
A: WAEC and jamb

Q: What if I have no WAEC?
A:

Well, tell ur sponsor to provide the money(like 4million) into your account. Then upload ur bank statement containing the required amount. This serves as proof of funding with out the need for sponsorship letter

smurfymorello:
Please house how is a sponsorship letter suppose to be like? Plus is it suppose to be typed ?

It should be a typed letterheaded writing. Signed by ur sponsor with date

Remember, just sponsored letter is not enough. U must attach a recent bank statement

oluwatoyinadeol:
At no time did he rain abuse or curse, I was present live and direct and can confirm that.. .the writer is a Hungry man,

Hungry man? Pray tell What makes the writer a hungry man. Hungry for what?

Some Nigerians are the most irrational and gullible people in the world

CentaurX:
Oh come on, have you no sense. Why would you go about spreading spiteful spurious mendacities against your maker and his servant?

Giving your affluence, one would expect you to talk like someone mature, seems God only gave you your wealth and left you with a "capuos mind!" You would soon be met by God. I just hope he comes quick!
Don't test God!
It's better you don't

Utter twattle.. This is the most idiotic comment I have seen for a very long time. Absolute gibberish from a sheep coming home to bleat

cjeriia:
For Undergrads, language of instruction is Norwegian.

Some are in English. Few tho.
University of Oslo and BI Norwegian business school etc has English language BSc program.

The later charges tuition for undergraduate international program.

Freestainworld:
please my fellow nairaland, I need your help on how to apply for an undergraduate studies in Norway. will appreciate your candid feedback.

Hope you meet the requirements for undergraduate studies in Norway according to NOKUT?
You must have at least 1year University education